Picked on by cops

[hellokitty]

My husband was riding home today after getting a warrant on his bike. An old Honda CBR1000. A hot day so he is wearing a jacket and his tattoos are showing.
A detective in a plain car follows him, calls for back up (a highway patrol car arrives) They both pull him over and of course as he wasn't speeding and the bike is legal he asks why?

Their response is that he doesn't suit the bike he is riding.

Apparently this is reason enough to pull someone over? They thought he had stolen it!
Perhaps he looks like a Harley rider - yeah maybe as he has had Harleys before but he loves his CBR and since when do you have to own a bike based on the way you look?

Anyone had problems like this before?

[mattian]

whats the problem? he wasnt doing anything wrong so, I'm sure he was sent on his way? thats not being picked on.... come on now.

[YellowDog]

Sound quite odd.

Perhaps the Police should give us all a list of the bikes they think we look suitabe for.

Maybe they should give your husband a Harley?

[Big Dave]

Yeah - I've been pulled over to see if I stole it a few times. I thought it was OK actually.

[KiWiP]

In London my brother was forever getting pulled over in his Cortina 1600E because it was "a black mans car" (their words) and he's white. This of course was on the surface wrong but their justification was for the right reasons (in their eyes). Annoying yes but wrong? I still can't decide.

[Motoracer]

Cops are meant to do that. That's their job to be nosey.

[jonbuoy]

whats the problem? he wasnt doing anything wrong so, I'm sure he was sent on his way? thats not being picked on.... come on now.

I think thats the point - he wasn't doing anything wrong.

[hellokitty]

The problem was that they felt they needed 2 cars to pull him over, and treated him like a criminal. Looking him up and down, talking crap to him. One car followed him and when he had another car to back him up they pulled him over. Excessive I think. Perhaps if it had been some kid on an expensive new bike going fast, but not a guy in his forties on a bike that is worth bugger all.

[hellokitty]

In London my brother was forever getting pulled over in his Cortina 1600E because it was "a black mans car" (their words) and he's white. This of course was on the surface wrong but their justification was for the right reasons (in their eyes). Annoying yes but wrong? I still can't decide.

I get followed all the time in my car as apparently I drive a teenage boys car, but as soon as they see a woman in it they laugh it off and all is good

[mattian]

I think thats the point - he wasn't doing anything wrong.

I'm so glad I'm not a cop. If they dont do enough to find your stolen bike they're incompetent. If they take pro-active steps to tackle what is an escalating epidemic, bike theft.... then they're just picking on us. Jesus. you couldn't pay me enough to cop that kind of flak for my job..... no pun intended.

[hellokitty]

Sound quite odd.

Perhaps the Police should give us all a list of the bikes they think we look suitabe for.

Maybe they should give your husband a Harley?


Hahaha Awesome, husband says yes please!

[jonbuoy]

I'm so glad I'm not a cop. If they dont do enough to find your stolen bike they're incompetent. If they take pro-active steps to tackle what is an escalating epidemic, bike theft.... then they're just picking on us. Jesus. you couldn't pay me enough to cop that kind of flak for my job..... no pun intended.

He reported his own bike as being stolen?

[mattian]

He reported his own bike as being stolen?

I'm sorry.... I dont think being Psychic is a prerequisite of becoming a police officer.

[98tls]

The problem was that they felt they needed 2 cars to pull him over, and treated him like a criminal. Looking him up and down, talking crap to him. One car followed him and when he had another car to back him up they pulled him over. Excessive I think. Perhaps if it had been some kid on an expensive new bike going fast, but not a guy in his forties on a bike that is worth bugger all. Picked on?Jesus harden up.Imagine that a cop "looking him up n down":gob:Scary stuff.Funny though you say it would be ok if it was someone young on an expensive bike,assuming he was wearing a helmet how would they know?That aside the shit that the average copper has to put up with on a daily basis,fuck i would get backup to.

[p.dath]

I think your husband should be fucked off. Why can't a law abiding citizen doing nothing wrong go about their business without being interrupted by a state employee?

And don't give me this shit about being a cop is a hard job. There's plenty of hard jobs out there. What's that in their job description - "law enforcement".

[mattian]

I think your husband should be fucked off. Why can't a law abiding citizen doing nothing wrong go about their business without being interrupted by a state employee?

And don't give me this shit about being a cop is a hard job. There's plenty of hard jobs out there. What's that in their job description - "law enforcement".

ok so.... next time the police are on the look out for a CBR1000 same make, same model stolen within the last few hours. They probably shouldnt pull over an identical bike to do a check because, they might make the rider feel as if he is being picked on??????:eek:

[Big Dave]

I think your husband should be fucked off. Why can't a law abiding citizen doing nothing wrong go about their business without being interrupted by a state employee?

And don't give me this shit about being a cop is a hard job. There's plenty of hard jobs out there. What's that in their job description - "law enforcement".

What would be really ironic is if your bike gets stolen - then recovered in a random vehicle check.

[hellokitty]

ok so.... next time the police are on the look out for a CBR1000 same make, same model stolen within the last few hours. They probably shouldnt pull over an identical bike to do a check because, they might make the rider feel as if he is being picked on??????:eek:

if someone is puttering along at 50kms in traffic, they can't run the rego to see if it is stolen?

[Motu]

I was ''picked on'' by the cops from a relatively young age - it gave me a healthy respect for the law....something that is rather lacking these days.Once into my '50's the police lost interest in my endeavors.

[98tls]

if someone is puttering along at 50kms in traffic, they can't run the rego to see if it is stolen? :slap::rofl::killingme Walking away shaking my head in disbelief.

[mattian]

if someone is puttering along at 50kms in traffic, they can't run the rego to see if it is stolen?

Some cops don't know a CBR1000 from a Lifan 250..... That could be any bikes rego plates on there. I don't know what the problem is. If someone stole your bike, wouldnt you want everything done within the law......(and then some!) to find it? what was the inconvenience? 5 minutes of his time?

[hellokitty]

I respect cops, I wouldn't do their job............. though I see lots of cops in my job and they say they wouldn't do mine either.....

I am lucky in the way I look - I look like a geek so I don't get bothered. My husband looks a little rough - funny thing is he used to be a cop

[Crasherfromwayback]

I think your husband should be fucked off. Why can't a law abiding citizen doing nothing wrong go about their business without being interrupted by a state employee?

And don't give me this shit about being a cop is a hard job. There's plenty of hard jobs out there. What's that in their job description - "law enforcement".

You're a dickhead. One of the guys at work got called up by the police at 3.00am askingif he knew where his new Mitsi Evo was. He said "in my garage". They said "no it ain't". They'd pulled a driver over as they thought it was a flash car to be out and around in that area at that time. A hunch yes. Correct this time??? Hell yes. The car gets returned...all good. Sometimes they get it wrong. But there's no real harm done is there now? Hope your bike gets nicked and no one does anything about it.

[red mermaid]

Its all normal procedure, don't be so precious.

As said before, police are supposed to be nosy, look for things that don't quite match, its the way we find your stolen car/bike before you have realised it missing.

And for heavens sake get the idea out of your head that there has to be a reason to be stopped. That has never been law in NZ. You'll read to many American comics.

[Skyryder]

If they thought the bike was stolen all the cops had to do was punch in the rego number and hey presto. Not a foolproof way sure but look at it another way if hubby had his bike stolen and said cops pulled over the rider would you be as pissed off as you seem.

Not a big deal this..................move on.



Skyryder

[Renegade]

What would be really ironic is if your bike gets stolen - then recovered in a random vehicle check.

ha ha so true...

[sil3nt]

If they thought the bike was stolen all the cops had to do was punch in the rego number and hey presto. Not a foolproof way sure but look at it another way if hubby had his bike stolen and said cops pulled over the rider would you be as pissed off as you seem.

Not a big deal this..................move on.



SkyryderAnd if the plates were from another bike that was not reported stolen? I can't even tell what make/model most bikes are how are cops going to tell?

[Hoon]

if someone is puttering along at 50kms in traffic, they can't run the rego to see if it is stolen?
Yep standard practice. They would've even known who the registered owner is before they pulled him over and when the WOF expires. Stolen vehicles often aren't reported stolen until hours after being taken so good on them for being proactive. It's unfortunate you see this "doing their job" as some sort of personal attack on you and your family. Yes it may offend you as a law abiding citizen being mistaken for a criminal but you need to consider the bigger picture.

[p.dath]

ok so.... next time the police are on the look out for a CBR1000 same make, same model stolen within the last few hours. They probably shouldnt pull over an identical bike to do a check because, they might make the rider feel as if he is being picked on??????:eek:

Who said the same make and model had been stolen recently - and if so, they could easily verify it by checking the rego plate. No need to actually pull someone over "just in case". No need to look for crimes that don't exist by impacting law abiding individuals.


What would be really ironic is if your bike gets stolen - then recovered in a random vehicle check.

I have insurance, and I accept risk as part of ownership. My prior experience with the Police have shown them less than useful. Unless its a violent crime or of another serious nature you shouldn't really expect them to help you. Hell, you'll be lucky if you get anything more than an invitation to visit the local station and file a report.

I wouldn't even bother filing a report with the Police next time if it wasn't for the fact that the insurance company insists on it. Still, helps prevent insurance fraud and helps someone gather statistics.

[Griffin]

If not looking right on the bike your riding is a fair reason to be stopped then Im surprised I havent been pulled over more often... and advised to buy a scooter lol

[p.dath]

Yep standard practice. They would've even known who the registered owner is before they pulled him over and when the WOF expires. Stolen vehicles often aren't reported stolen until hours after being taken so good on them for being proactive. It's unfortunate you see this "doing their job" as some sort of personal attack on you and your family. Yes it may offend you as a law abiding citizen being mistaken for a criminal but you need to consider the bigger picture.

Ever heard of the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty? A founding principle of our justice system? How was this gentleman given this right? He was assumed guilty until they could establish he was innocent.

The big picture - civil liberties. I want mine. You can surrender yours if you want.

[98tls]

funny thing is he used to be a cop So his take on this is?Or still to shaken up after being looked up and down to speak.

[BoristheBiter]

Who said the same make and model had been stolen recently - and if so, they could easily verify it by checking the rego plate. No need to actually pull someone over "just in case". No need to look for crimes that don't exist by impacting law abiding individuals.



I have insurance, and I accept risk as part of ownership. My prior experience with the Police have shown them less than useful. Unless its a violent crime or of another serious nature you shouldn't really expect them to help you. Hell, you'll be lucky if you get anything more than an invitation to visit the local station and file a report.

I wouldn't even bother filing a report with the Police next time if it wasn't for the fact that the insurance company insists on it. Still, helps prevent insurance fraud and helps someone gather statistics.

Wow, never knew you would say that.
Under the land transport act you can be pulled over for any reason what so ever.

[p.dath]

Hope your bike gets nicked and no one does anything about it.

You know, I don't think I would even complain. It's an opportunityt to try out more bikes, and get something new.

I accept there are risks involved with owning capital assets. That's just a normal society. As I said, I'll keep my civil liberties. You can surrender yours if you want to live in the hope that the Police might once in your life recover an asset back for you in a workable condition.

Why stop there? Why don't we just pull over everyone, constantly? It'll be effective. Imagine how many additional stolen vehicles they recover. How many additional crimes will be stopped.

Or why don't we just return to founding principles, innocent to proven guilty. If you haven't done a crime, then there is no reason for the Police to be intervening in your life.

[Big Dave]

>>You know, I don't think I would even complain.<<

It bites you on the arse when the insurance premium on the replacement comes in.

[mattian]

Ever heard of the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty? A founding principle of our justice system? How was this gentleman given this right? He was assumed guilty until they could establish he was innocent.

The big picture - civil liberties. I want mine. You can surrender yours if you want.

My god man what planet do you live on. he was asked a few questions by police and his civil liberties have been trampled on?? lets take away the tasers and put flowers in their hair

[98tls]

Or why don't we just return to founding principles, innocent to proven guilty. If you haven't done a crime, then there is no reason for the Police to be intervening in your life. No doubt you belive the 7 dwarfs stood round doing nothing whilst awaiting the prince to show up.

[KiWiP]

He was assumed guilty until they could establish he was innocent.
He was. He wasn't arrested, restrained or denied any of his rights as a NZ citizen. He was questioned. This is a normal part of police duties if something doesn't 'feel' right. The police have to make a judgement call. Not all of their hunches play out but when they do they benefit all of us. How many times do we hear of a car or bike being stopped and the driver/rider having illegal guns/P equipment or other on them.


The big picture - civil liberties. I want mine. You can surrender yours if you want.
You have them. Stop whining. You live in one of the most free, liberal countries in the world. Don't believe me, spend some time in China, the US, Britain to name a popular few and you will appreciate how free you are.

[Woodman]

My god man what planet do you live on. he was asked a few questions by police and his civil liberties have been trampled on?? lets take away the tasers and put flowers in their hair

And and let all the murderes and other violent offendors out of jail if they promise to be good.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You know, I don't think I would even complain.


As I said, I'll keep my civil liberties. You can surrender yours if you want to live in the hope that the Police might once in your life recover an asset back for you in a workable condition.



I'll hold you to that. Don't ever come on here and ball your eyes out if your bike gets nicked.

And I have never surrended anything to the police that they didn't earn!

[pc220]

Who said the same make and model had been stolen recently - and if so, they could easily verify it by checking the rego plate. No need to actually pull someone over "just in case". No need to look for crimes that don't exist by impacting law abiding individuals.



I have insurance, and I accept risk as part of ownership. My prior experience with the Police have shown them less than useful. Unless its a violent crime or of another serious nature you shouldn't really expect them to help you. Hell, you'll be lucky if you get anything more than an invitation to visit the local station and file a report.

I wouldn't even bother filing a report with the Police next time if it wasn't for the fact that the insurance company insists on it. Still, helps prevent insurance fraud and helps someone gather statistics.

WTF your pissing and moaning about the police doing their job and next thing your pissing and moaning that they dont do anything. Are you confused or just a bit simple.

[aderino4]

What a bunch of crybabies.. If you didn't do anything wrong then you won't have problem being stop by the police.

If you feel you're being picked on then you're either have something to hide or being overly sensitive. Harden up...

[Ixion]

Hm. I don't entirely approve of such conduct by the cops. Or, entirely disapprove. So much depends on their attitude. The last time it happened to me the cop handled it well, I didn't have a problem with it. The tome before that the cop failed the attitude test. So I reported him for not looking like a cop. He was scruffy and badly shaven; his uniform was dishevelled and sloppy. If you want to interrogate me because I don't look like a whatever you better either pass the attitude test or look like Dixon of Dock Green .

But the local copper pulled over some yon driving round in a Mercedes. Stolen and a bunch of other charges. Well done Dixon. It all depends. With good cops it's proactive policing with bad ones it's harrassment.

[Mom]

Yeah - I've been pulled over to see if I stole it a few times.

That's 'cos you are a right dodgy looking fella :yes: Best you make sure the bikes you "borrow" in future have current rego on them.

[Big Dave]

It usually occurred/s on my Thunderbird, which at the time was very similar to several of the Filthy Few's.
The interviews were quite funny really, once they established bona fides I end up interviewing them (just ask Nodman.)
'So tell me what you think about....'

[neels]

In London my brother was forever getting pulled over in his Cortina 1600E because it was "a black mans car" .I used to get pulled up in my GTE cortina because it was a young hoon's car, but I was a young hoon so I suppose it was fair enough. A maori guy that worked with my father sold his BMW because he got sick of getting pulled up by the cops, not really fair enough.

I guess if they were polite enough just checking things out you can't complain too much about them doing their job.

[scissorhands]

Shortly after 9/11 I had a kid in a Warkworth fish and chip shop check with his father in case I had a bomb.

I'm pretty dark for Wankworth tho

Habibi my friend what have i done?

[sinfull]

I got waved to by a local cop today because i slowed down ! I guess he knows who i am, i mean who don't lol blahhh look at me, look at me !!! I waved back and no it wasn't a nod or a head tilt, it was a real wave, like waaaave, fuckin aye they do their job, fucked if i'd do it but some ones got to !
If he'd ticketed me, he'd still be doin his job cause i have no idea if he'd have clocked me at 65 or 55 but i seen him and slowed, he waved and aye, on ya bro !
I't aint all about money gathering !
locally i'm known (not as a trouble maker lol) so i'd like to think if some scum on my bike looked a little out of place to a cop, yeah his name an number be cool to have !!!

[sinfull]

WTF your pissing and moaning about the police doing their job and next thing your pissing and moaning that they dont do anything. Are you confused or just a bit simple. Ummm fittin tryhard done whoopsee wrong answer ! But i guess seeing he's still only just off trainer wheels we should ...... nah burn him !!!!

[awayatc]

Cops picked me off from my "home" a while ago.....
3 patrol cars
2 mufti cars
couldn't count the number of cops on one hand....

Whole neighbourhood was wondering what the hell had happened.....
Nothing much had......

Thought that was excessive....

Funny in hindsight though....

[mdnzz]

I say good on em for pulling you over and checking all legit, that is their job to act on hunches. If it wasn't then I would not have had them retrieve my skyline when they saw two young fella's in it early hours of the morning, looked suss and this time they had the right hunch. While it might be annoying to be pulled over if there is no ticket and a have a nice day be on ya way attitude then really is it worth getting pissy over.
They are only human, they may not get it right every time, but then again do you??

[Swoop]

Good on them.
Something looked suspicious and they investigated. Just like if they see a shady character sneaking around a house at night. It might be the householder having a wizz on the lemon tree or it might be a burglar.

That is their job. Proactive policing.
I imagine that someone wearing a 1-piece set of racing leathers with all the fruit and berries attached and riding a harley, would also get looked at suspiciously.


Bring back bobbies walking the beat.

[freedom-wedge]

I think your husband should be fucked off. Why can't a law abiding citizen doing nothing wrong go about their business without being interrupted by a state employee?

And don't give me this shit about being a cop is a hard job. There's plenty of hard jobs out there. What's that in their job description - "law enforcement".

well said, dispite valid points from both sides in this thread, a quick plate check would of given the answer to the machine being stolen or not. If that was the reason for being detained on the side of the road, we better be sure our clothes fit and we arnt wearing incorrect shoe size, let alone odd socks, come on fellas its a weak reason to stop a person going about their business.

I,m all for proactive policing, but they should be trying hard to win peoples hearts and minds, yeah damned if you do blah blah.

[freedom-wedge]

My husband was riding home today after getting a warrant on his bike. An old Honda CBR1000. A hot day so he is wearing a jacket and his tattoos are showing.
A detective in a plain car follows him, calls for back up (a highway patrol car arrives) They both pull him over and of course as he wasn't speeding and the bike is legal he asks why?

Their response is that he doesn't suit the bike he is riding.

Apparently this is reason enough to pull someone over? They thought he had stolen it!
Perhaps he looks like a Harley rider - yeah maybe as he has had Harleys before but he loves his CBR and since when do you have to own a bike based on the way you look?

Anyone had problems like this before?

How long was he helping them with their enquiry ?? just out of interest

[DEVVIL]

if someone is puttering along at 50kms in traffic, they can't run the rego to see if it is stolen?

The plate may not be stolen!Jumped on my boys 250 and picked up 35 demerit points :scooter:lol

[Big Dave]

The plate may not be stolen!Jumped on my boys 250 and picked up 35 demerit points :scooter:lol

Now that's what I call revenge!

[Marmoot]

Yeah - I've been pulled over to see if I stole it a few times. I thought it was OK actually.

What? You think stealing bikes is OK?

[Skyryder]

Ever heard of the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty? A founding principle of our justice system? How was this gentleman given this right? He was assumed guilty until they could establish he was innocent.

The big picture - civil liberties. I want mine. You can surrender yours if you want.



This was a theme I pushed when the instant loss of licence was lowered. It was all awast of time. No one cared. They still don't.


Skyryder

[Big Dave]

What? You think stealing bikes is OK?

Sure - I'm Australian - what do you need?

[Big Dave]

So Dath - are you now an ardent civil libertarian or still an advocate for compulsory safety clothing?

[motor_mayhem]

So Dath - are you now an ardent civil libertarian or still an advocate for compulsory safety clothing?

I had the fuzz gesturing wildly at me on Saturday for that, I gather they don't approve of riding a gixxer in T-shirt, shorts and sneakers. :blink:

[CookMySock]

The problem was that they felt they needed 2 cars to pull him over, and treated him like a criminal. Looking him up and down, talking crap to him. One car followed him and when he had another car to back him up they pulled him over. Excessive I think.As you say, it is not the cops business to stop ordinary citizens acting within the law, but one day it might be your pinched bike with some unsavory-looking character on it. So where to draw the line?

Steve

[Big Dave]

I had the fuzz gesturing wildly at me on Saturday for that, I gather they don't approve of riding a gixxer in T-shirt, shorts and sneakers. :blink:

Well, face it - who in their right mind approves of Gixxers? :-P

[Hoon]

a quick plate check would of given the answer to the machine being stolen or not..

No as already mentioned several times this would only identify if it had already been reported, not if it is in progress or false plates etc.



If that was the reason for being detained on the side of the road, we better be sure our clothes fit and we arnt wearing incorrect shoe size, let alone odd socks, come on fellas its a weak reason to stop a person going about their business.

No one said anything about being detained. I would imagine that the guy got pulled over and once he supplied his drivers license to confirm he was the registered owner (cops would have known this before pulling him over), they would've realised their mistake and sent him on his way. If the guy was detained for an unreasonable amount of time after confirming ID then yes harrassment would be valid but since this isn't mentioned in the original post I guess it didn't happen.

[Toot Toot]

Hey this wasnt in Hazzard County by any chance??? (Rodney District Highway Patrol) If it was, then join the club.

[BoristheBiter]

As you say, it is not the cops business to stop ordinary citizens acting within the law, but one day it might be your pinched bike with some unsavory-looking character on it. So where to draw the line?

Steve

maybe they needed to know where to get an ice cream:killingme

[BoristheBiter]

As you say, it is not the cops business to stop ordinary citizens acting within the law, but one day it might be your pinched bike with some unsavory-looking character on it. So where to draw the line?

Steve


So what are you saying you think they should or shouldn't be able to stop someone? you can't have it both ways.

[dogsnbikes]

If there is reasonable doult...Hey why not pull someone over and cheak it out??it sounds like thats all they were doing anyway...

We were pulled over a couple of years ago In Wanganui after picking my bike up with the trailer...It was 2am and the bike was in show room condition,and Wanga's is a dodgey place,its just them doing there Job and at the end of the day its the guilty that will do a runner

[CookMySock]

Good on them.
Something looked suspicious and they investigated. Just like if they see a shady character sneaking around a house at night. It might be the householder having a wizz on the lemon tree or it might be a burglar.Yeah its fair enough, but I think the cops should do their checks politely and dispense with the full attitude check.

It also wouldn't go astray for the officer to offer an apology along the lines of "our apologies, just wanted to make sure that it wasn't someone ELSE on YOUR bike", and maybe a little thanks from the member of the public like "hey thanks for watching out for my gear", because we really DO appreciate that. The problem is the full multi-car multi-cop shakedown followed by the full attitude check, tends to swing everyones' feelings in the wrong direction.

Maybe the fuzz should review their procedure there.

Steve

[Swoop]

The problem is the full multi-car multi-cop shakedown followed by the full attitude check, tends to swing everyones' feelings in the wrong direction.
I have seen the same sort of event on the southern motorway. Multiple cop cars for one bike, but then again it was a patched gang member who they had pulled over on a harley.

Police S.O.P. in these situations...

[CookMySock]

So what are you saying you think they should or shouldn't be able to stop someone? you can't have it both ways.Hence the rhetorical question.

Steve

[marty]

If the question asked by the cops is 'wonder who that is/who's bike that is/that looks sus/that looks strange' then they should be having a chat.

It's amazing the shit you can find.

[Genie]

The problem was that they felt they needed 2 cars to pull him over, and treated him like a criminal. Looking him up and down, talking crap to him. One car followed him and when he had another car to back him up they pulled him over. Excessive I think. Perhaps if it had been some kid on an expensive new bike going fast, but not a guy in his forties on a bike that is worth bugger all.

I see where you're coming from but...the cops have to protect themselves. Just the other day some fella up norf was on a pushbike with no helmet, when the police went to question him, he did a fast get away. they caught up with him and discovered he was carrying a loaded gun! Not saying your husband would ever do this just that the job of the police is becoming more dangerous with every day. Better to be safe than sorry.

[Littleman]

Ever heard of the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty? A founding principle of our justice system? How was this gentleman given this right? He was assumed guilty until they could establish he was innocent.

The big picture - civil liberties. I want mine. You can surrender yours if you want.

Try blipping your throttle?

Yeah I didn't think so.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing p.dath.

[jonbuoy]

What self respecting bike thief would be seen on one of these? :dodge:

[freedom-wedge]

No as already mentioned several times this would only identify if it had already been reported, not if it is in progress or false plates etc.



No one said anything about being detained. I would imagine that the guy got pulled over and once he supplied his drivers license to confirm he was the registered owner (cops would have known this before pulling him over), they would've realised their mistake and sent him on his way. If the guy was detained for an unreasonable amount of time after confirming ID then yes harrassment would be valid but since this isn't mentioned in the original post I guess it didn't happen.

Both your points are valid, I did ask I think how long they chatted for, that was my concern and the manner with which they may have conducted themselves. After a certain amount of time you are being detained however.

[freedom-wedge]

Yeah its fair enough, but I think the cops should do their checks politely and dispense with the full attitude check.

It also wouldn't go astray for the officer to offer an apology along the lines of "our apologies, just wanted to make sure that it wasn't someone ELSE on YOUR bike", and maybe a little thanks from the member of the public like "hey thanks for watching out for my gear", because we really DO appreciate that. The problem is the full multi-car multi-cop shakedown followed by the full attitude check, tends to swing everyones' feelings in the wrong direction.

Maybe the fuzz should review their procedure there.

Steve

I think these are fair comments, anyone stopped for any reason should be presumed innocent, if its obvious that this ist the case then by all means turn up the attitude, the coppers need to be treating all interaction as a PR excersize no matter what, sadly they dont.

[Berries]

In London my brother was forever getting pulled over in his Cortina 1600E because it was "a black mans car" (their words) and he's white. This of course was on the surface wrong but their justification was for the right reasons (in their eyes). Annoying yes but wrong? I still can't decide.

Memories. I had a Mark 2 Cortina when I was learning to drive in Nottingham. Long story short, came to a roundabout in the centre of town on a Saturday night after being followed by a marked car for a while and heard sirens coming from every direction. Pulled over to let them past and ended up with a marked car pulling in front of me half on the footpath, a marked car right up the back of me and two bikes at the drivers door. They were mob handed because they thought we would do a runner, but we hadn't done anything wrong. I got a long talking to, mainly so the cops didn't look bad in front of the queue outside the cinema and all the other onlookers who came to have a look at the commotion. And I'm white, which is a rarity in Nottingham.

Re the OP. I can't see anything wrong with this. If the rider and bike don't appear to fit together it could well be stolen so it is good that it gets checked out. It could have been your bike that had been nicked.

[Big Dave]

Back in Sydney I had a neighbour and friend from the US.
Very black and very clever man. His first hand stories of the Police in the South were pretty scary.
'Ol Larry got hissself an eduction and got outta Ken Tucky, Dawg.'

[Coldrider]

What self respecting bike thief would be seen on one of these? :dodge:
Has both gang colours.

[CookMySock]

the coppers need to be treating all interaction as a PR excersize no matter what, sadly they dont.Well they are, but not the type you are suggesting. They are conducting a PR-exercise-gone-wrong type, and the outcome of that is abundantly clear.

Anyway, if we want to CHANGE it, we have to DO something ABOUT it. I have suggested in other threads a "thumbs down to bad policing" campaign, where the public directly shows (in the obvious way) just how much they dissapprove of poor policing methods. It needs to be in the media as well, so the police are told clearly EXACTLY what the problem is.

I would say the result of such a campaign will be swing one way or the other. Either they will outlaw the "thumbs down" sign to police, or they will change their behaviour. Either way, I bet it would happen rather quickly.


Steve

[BoristheBiter]

Well they are, but not the type you are suggesting. They are conducting a PR-exercise-gone-wrong type, and the outcome of that is abundantly clear.

Anyway, if we want to CHANGE it, we have to DO something ABOUT it. I have suggested in other threads a "thumbs down to bad policing" campaign, where the public directly shows (in the obvious way) just how much they dissapprove of poor policing methods. It needs to be in the media as well, so the police are told clearly EXACTLY what the problem is.

I would say the result of such a campaign will be swing one way or the other. Either they will outlaw the "thumbs down" sign to police, or they will change their behaviour. Either way, I bet it would happen rather quickly.


Steve

And it should be followed by a "thumbs down to bad ice cream making" campaign. Where the public directly shows just how much they dissapprove of poor ice cream making methods. It needs to be in the media as well, so the bad ice cream makers are told clearly EXACTLY what the problem is.
Snow freeze ice cream should be banned becuse its not ice cream.:stupid:

[Ixion]

Is the instance of the OP bad policing though? It might be, or it might be very good proactive policing. It all depends on the cops atttude. So often that is the case.

[Pixie]

Cops are meant to do that. That's their job to be nosey.

Or......they could patrol crime ridden areas like the cop on TV last night.
...and is probably in the shit today for making the rest of the cops look bad