Suzuki fxr programmable cdi - amateur

[k-tech]

CDI PROGRAMMABLE 3MAPS WITH SELECTABLE VOLTAGE OUTPUT
UPGRADEABLE TO 8 MAPS - AMATEUR
2 VOLTAGE OUTPUT.
X2 mode ENERGY OUTPUT.
45mJ and 80mJ ENERGY OUTPUT at X1 mode.
90mJ and 160mJ ENERGY OUTPUT at X2 mode.
Agressive and EXtended Timing.
Adaptive Timing MODE.
Advanced Power Management.
USB Dongle to computer.


Setting Based :
50 RPM per 0,25 Degree.
Total 489 steps start from RPM 600 upto RPM 25000.
Voltage Regulated as per 50 RPM with SELECTABLE VOLTAGE OUTPUT

PRICE : 100 USD


OPTIONAL

MAP SELECTOR
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/850/mapselector01.jpg


KEYPAD PROGRAM
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9976/keypad01.jpg

MAP CURVE SCREEN SHOT
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3076/mapchart.jpg

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/1783/241120091144.jpg

EXCLUDE SHIPPING COST
CONTACT : SHIPPINGADI@GMAIL.COM

[CookMySock]

Fark, what a cool gadget for the bucket racer geeks.

Steve

[Scotty595]

ANyone played with these before? easy to use?

[Bert]

ANyone played with these before? easy to use?

quite a cool little unit. 2 or 4 stroke potential. tend to be quite popular with the scooter boys.... google
http://www.cheetah-power.com/

good on ya for bringing them to every ones attention...

big question K-Tech, are you happy to send them to NZ???

other specs: what's the required voltage from the source coils? or battery (12-14v or 6volt)? how many amps does it require to keep it memory or is this the model that has internal battery? and also do you have a wiring diagram for other applications?

[k-tech]

Fark, what a cool gadget for the bucket racer geeks.

Steve



ANyone played with these before? easy to use?



quite a cool little unit. 2 or 4 stroke potential. tend to be quite popular with the scooter boys.... google
http://www.cheetah-power.com/

good on ya for bringing them to every ones attention...

big question K-Tech, are you happy to send them to NZ???

other specs: what's the required voltage from the source coils? or battery (12-14v or 6volt)? how many amps does it require to keep it memory or is this the model that has internal battery? and also do you have a wiring diagram for other applications?

aloha bro....
sorry i didnt mean to "disturb" this forum.
I just wanna share what little "idea" we had.
since we do have suzuki fxr here and kinda hard to find a fxr community.
actually we do have our own coil, as we adaptive from NOLOGY HOTWIRE+GROUND STRAP technology to support the ignition system.
Our programmable cdi working at 12-18V, optimally, below 12V battery its not suggested.
We do have our own ADJUSTABLE REGULATOR to support the bike with single phase system.
For the wiring diagram, we do have a lot but as refer to our local mass bike which produced here, one of them is SUZUKI FXR and KAWASAKI NINJA 250R

Basicly, for NOW ON, we might provide for other bikes, as long as the bike not using an EFI system.
We have successfully replace the ignition system on Kawasaki Ninja 250R which using a TCI on its ignition system by our own special programmable CDI for Kawasaki Ninja 250r.

Just share the technically bike spec, such as the ignition degree, intervals between them, wiring diagram, cdi sockets.

Actually we do have other series, for Pro and Drag Use only.

Once again, if you feel we are disturbing this forum, please ignore the "idea" we shared.
:-)





















ps..............
keep brotherhood alive...................anywhere..............

[CookMySock]

sorry ..... I just wanna share what little "idea" we had.That is fine. Do not worry. You have a good idea, and that is what forums are for.

Do you have an ignition for the odd-fire vtwin Hyosung 250's ?

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=id&tl=en&u=http://www.cheetah-power.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle% 26id%3D46%26Itemid%3D29


Steve

[brendonjw]

aloha bro....

We have successfully replace the ignition system on Kawasaki Ninja 250R which using a TCI on its ignition system by our own special programmable CDI for Kawasaki Ninja 250r.


Is this the same unit that is labled as a Sportisimoto BTR one in the US?
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30081
As i know the owner of Sportisimoto gets his stuff from over your way

[k-tech]

aloha bro....
sorry i didnt mean to "disturb" this forum.
I just wanna share what little "idea" we had.
since we do have suzuki fxr here and kinda hard to find a fxr community.
actually we do have our own coil, as we adaptive from NOLOGY HOTWIRE+GROUND STRAP technology to support the ignition system.
Our programmable cdi working at 12-18V, optimally, below 12V battery its not suggested.
We do have our own ADJUSTABLE REGULATOR to support the bike with single phase system.
For the wiring diagram, we do have a lot but as refer to our local mass bike which produced here, one of them is SUZUKI FXR and KAWASAKI NINJA 250R

Basicly, for NOW ON, we might provide for other bikes, as long as the bike not using an EFI system.
We have successfully replace the ignition system on Kawasaki Ninja 250R which using a TCI on its ignition system by our own special programmable CDI for Kawasaki Ninja 250r.

Just share the technically bike spec, such as the ignition degree, intervals between them, wiring diagram, cdi sockets.

Actually we do have other series, for Pro and Drag Use only.

Once again, if you feel we are disturbing this forum, please ignore the "idea" we shared.
:-)





















ps..............
keep brotherhood alive...................anywhere..............

Thanks bro.............

[k-tech]

That is fine. Do not worry. You have a good idea, and that is what forums are for.

Do you have an ignition for the odd-fire vtwin Hyosung 250's ?

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Steve

Thanks & much appreciated bro.............
unfortunately we dun have that bike and we havent tried.............
but basicly, our cdi is AN UNIVERSAL PROGRAMMABLE CDI, it may fits to non EFI Bikes. what we need to know is : IGNITION DEGREE AND WIRING DIAGRAM, afterwards, just install the software, connect the cdi, "HAPPY PLAYING WITH THE IGNITION"................

[k-tech]

Is this the same unit that is labled as a Sportisimoto BTR one in the US?
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30081
As i know the owner of Sportisimoto gets his stuff from over your way

:-D NO ITS NOT bro...............
as your link referred is SportisiMoto BTR is A TIS a.k.a TCI and its not PROGRAMMABLE, BUT ADJUSTABLE
, what we have is a CDI, ofcourse, A UNIVERSAL PROGRAMMABLE CDI.....................
and once again, we didnt adaptive anyone technology for THIS UNIVERSAL PROGRAMMABLE CDI.

[CookMySock]

our cdi is AN UNIVERSAL PROGRAMMABLE CDI, it may fits to non EFI Bikes. what we need to know is : IGNITION DEGREE AND WIRING DIAGRAM, afterwards, just install the software, connect the cdi, "HAPPY PLAYING WITH THE IGNITION"................So 270 degree odd-fire engines will work ok? Just have to configure it?

Is there a support forum for this ignition unit?

Can I add a MAP sensor to handle boost?

What type of pickup does it use? Will it use a reluctor pickup on a on a flywheel like this?
199083


Many thanks,
Steve

[k-tech]

So 270 degree odd-fire engines will work ok? Just have to configure it?

Is there a support forum for this ignition unit?

Can I add a MAP sensor to handle boost?

What type of pickup does it use? Will it use a reluctor pickup on a on a flywheel like this?
199083


Many thanks,
Steve

May i know what is it A map sensor boost? in our suzuki fxr, since it has a gear sensor, we have developed the latest technology, adapted from a virtual MOTOGP, each gear has it own map (ignition curve).

pickup, yes similar quite the same i will try to upload our local mass bike production, hope it might be a clue.........


Ignition Area, we called.
we said its an interval ignition degree, in our software, we may start the angle maping start from THE A2 ANGLE and THE A1 ANGLE. Its kinda Retard and Advanced.

So for example...........
I but this cdi which for SUZUKI FXR, (the ignition setting, maping and wiring socket), suddenly i want to sell my fxr and change to other bikes, a non EFI bike.
what we need to do is measure the ignition area, checking and referring the wiring diagram, MAKE OUR OWN WIRING CDI SOCKET INTENDED TO,
we put the data into the software, angle, starting rpm, starting ignition degree, selectable output voltage and HAPPY PLAYING WITH THE IGNITION

Hope my bad english is easy to understand bro. :-p

much appreciated for your attention on this.

[CookMySock]

A MAP sensor is to measure the inlet manifold pressure, from vacuum up to 1 Bar for turbo boost pressure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAP_sensor Read here, and perhaps use google translate into your own language.

It is hard to turbocharge a motorcycle engine with no MAP pressure sensor, because we cannot retard the ignition to prevent knock. Your unit will help a lot if I can make it work.

I see your pickup diagram. Do you think it will be compatible with my pickup? Maybe I will need to only change some software settings? Maybe you could make a small code change and it will just work?

I can understand you ok, but if you have any language difficulty, google translate works very well.

Steve

[k-tech]

A MAP sensor is to measure the inlet manifold pressure, from vacuum up to 1 Bar for turbo boost pressure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAP_sensor Read here, and perhaps use google translate into your own language.

It is hard to turbocharge a motorcycle engine with no MAP pressure sensor, because we cannot retard the ignition to prevent knock. Your unit will help a lot if I can make it work.

I see your pickup diagram. Do you think it will be compatible with my pickup? Maybe I will need to only change some software settings? Maybe you could make a small code change and it will just work?

I can understand you ok, but if you have any language difficulty, google translate works very well.

Steve

For Now on, we dont have that one bro, sorry :-p

the pick up diagram we shown its the single cylinder bikes, yours might be compatible with the KAWASAKI NINJA 250R ignition system.

Yes, kinda a little bit modify on the software, but dont forget to measure the IGNITION DEGREE AREA, so the modified maping ignition will have a real ignition.

[CookMySock]

The Ninja 250R should be 180 degree ignition, and the Hyosung 250 and 650 vtwins should be 270 degrees. There are two coils, one for each spark plug.

I am looking at turbo projects with carburated engines, so a MAP pressure sensor would be very good.

Steve

[k-tech]

The Ninja 250R should be 180 degree ignition, and the Hyosung 250 and 650 vtwins should be 270 degrees. There are two coils, one for each spark plug.

I am looking at turbo projects with carburated engines, so a MAP pressure sensor would be very good.

Steve

sorry if took a long time to reply, :-d
im at my office rite now and trying to steal my working time to keep posted. :-p

Yes, 2 coils, and for Ninja 250R, we supplied all from the cdi, 2coils, and 2 sparkplugs.

Hmmm, nice project. I wish you could share it with me. :-)
thanks

[CookMySock]

No worries.

Well it is quite simple. Add turbo, remap spark to retard with increasing boost, fix carbs to run on boost. Done.

At the moment I have to move the ignition pickup to set the timing -4 degrees static and hope for the best. I dont want to run full ECU on this project. Your system looks nice and simple, just it needs to work with this flywheel, 270 degree odd fire, and handle manifold pressure.

Steve

[k-tech]

No worries.

Well it is quite simple. Add turbo, remap spark to retard with increasing boost, fix carbs to run on boost. Done.

At the moment I have to move the ignition pickup to set the timing -4 degrees static and hope for the best. I dont want to run full ECU on this project. Your system looks nice and simple, just it needs to work with this flywheel, 270 degree odd fire, and handle manifold pressure.

Steve

Thanks for sharing, appreciated.
:-d

unfortunately we dun have much option to do some R&D on other bikes, what we have is some common local mass produced here :-)

[CookMySock]

Thanks for telling us about your product. Send me a message if I can help with Hyosung vtwin ignition info.

Steve

[TripleZee Dyno]

No worries.

Well it is quite simple. Add turbo, remap spark to retard with increasing boost, fix carbs to run on boost. Done.

At the moment I have to move the ignition pickup to set the timing -4 degrees static and hope for the best. I dont want to run full ECU on this project. Your system looks nice and simple, just it needs to work with this flywheel, 270 degree odd fire, and handle manifold pressure.

Steve

Sounds like Ktech's ignition system may have a problem handling odd firing engines. You could use two ignitions or set up a wasted spark system that fires every 90 deg.
You could also look at a microsquirt efi controller. The microsquirt was designed so that it could be used on all the oddball v angle bikes around, 72 deg, 50 deg etc. Just use the ignition side of it. Inputs for pretty much anything to do anything.
cheers

[CookMySock]

Sounds like Ktech's ignition system may have a problem handling odd firing engines. You could use two ignitions or set up a wasted spark system that fires every 90 deg.Thats a good idea. Alas, no MAP sensor yet.


You could also look at a microsquirt efi controller. The microsquirt was designed so that it could be used on all the oddball v angle bikes around, 72 deg, 50 deg etc. Just use the ignition side of it. Inputs for pretty much anything to do anything.Yeah aren't they great! They don't like my pickup-pattern though, so I'd have to hack a 36/1 wheel or similar onto it.

Steve

[k-tech]

Thanks for sharing, appreciated.
:-d

unfortunately we dun have much option to do some R&D on other bikes, what we have is some common local mass produced here :-)















wrong quote :-p

[k-tech]

Thanks for telling us about your product. Send me a message if I can help with Hyosung vtwin ignition info.

Steve

yes of course, soon we have some bikes to R&D, we'll inform you shortly. Thanks for your welcoming gestures, bro. :-)

we are searching most similar bike with your in here recently. I'll keep you posted for sure later on.

[k-tech]

Sounds like Ktech's ignition system may have a problem handling odd firing engines. You could use two ignitions or set up a wasted spark system that fires every 90 deg.
You could also look at a microsquirt efi controller. The microsquirt was designed so that it could be used on all the oddball v angle bikes around, 72 deg, 50 deg etc. Just use the ignition side of it. Inputs for pretty much anything to do anything.
cheers

Thanks for sharing, appreciated.
:-d

unfortunately we dun have much option to do some R&D on other bikes, what we have is some common local mass produced here :-)
in here, 250cc above, its hard to find, due to regulation here, 250cc above has high customs & taxes special treatment by our government.

what we have is all "hand made" and doing some R&D by ourself with limited budget, limited bikes info, etc.
We concentrated on Suzuki FXR since its my own bike :-) and freely to do some R&D on it.

This kind of info such as hyosung tech spec might our usefull info though, and we do need it alot :-)

[k-tech]

That is fine. Do not worry. You have a good idea, and that is what forums are for.

Do you have an ignition for the odd-fire vtwin Hyosung 250's ?

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=id&tl=en&u=http://www.cheetah-power.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle% 26id%3D46%26Itemid%3D29


Steve

is it this bike ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyosung_GT250

[CookMySock]

is it this bike ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyosung_GT250Yes, that is it.

More info to follow.

Steve

[Pumba]

aloha bro....
sorry i didnt mean to "disturb" this forum.

You didnt disturb anything people were just asking questions.


since we do have suzuki fxr here and kinda hard to find a fxr community.

http://www.fxr150.co.nz/discussion/ :)

[k-tech]

You didnt disturb anything people were just asking questions.



http://www.fxr150.co.nz/discussion/ :)

thanks bro
much appreciated
:-)

[k-tech]

Yes, that is it.

More info to follow.

Steve

Yez, thanks. :-)

[Bert]

Hi K-Tech.

Have you done any development on two-stroke singles

I know that a lot of the F4&F5 racers (referred to as Bucket racers) are always on the look out for bits like this.

When you say the units are programmable, is the entire map editable? or just program the unit to use a different pre-loaded map?

[CookMySock]

is the entire map editable? or just program the unit to use a different pre-loaded map?Have a look at the screenshots in the first post. You can map the whole rpm/ignition curve out using the included software.

Great for full-power running, but really needs a manifold pressure sensor for economy or boost, like this;

<img src="http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs023.snc3/11056_180877475749_824175749_2740687_2690185_n.jpg">


Steve

[k-tech]

Hi K-Tech.

Have you done any development on two-stroke singles

I know that a lot of the F4&F5 racers (referred to as Bucket racers) are always on the look out for bits like this.

When you say the units are programmable, is the entire map editable? or just program the unit to use a different pre-loaded map?

Yes bro,
its a programmable cdi, yez 2 stroke in here we have R&D was Kawasaki 150RR - DC CDI
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/kawasaki/kawasaki_krr_zx150%2002.htm
and YEZ WHOLE ENTIRE MAP editable, you could ruined them too, haha,joking bro.
if you're talking different preloaded map, that's ADJUSTABLE, what we have here is PROGRAMMABLE, UNIVERSAL PROGRAMMABLE CDI we may called.
after you're bored playing with your 2stroke single, you got 4stroke single,
just use the same cdi from us, as long as you know the ignition degree system, knowing the wiring diagram, build a new cdi socket connector,
connect to computer, edit your own new map for 4stroke single, download to the cdi, then, you have a GO..........!!!!!!

as our moto
HAPPY PLAYING WITH THE IGNITION

thanks for your attention bro

[k-tech]

Have a look at the screenshots in the first post. You can map the whole rpm/ignition curve out using the included software.

Great for full-power running, but really needs a manifold pressure sensor for economy or boost, like this;

<img src="http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs023.snc3/11056_180877475749_824175749_2740687_2690185_n.jpg">


Steve

yez steve, thanks for sharing. we still looking for this info of your MAP Sensor.
but if just the cdi for your hyo's, we can provided, this weekend for sure. ;-)
not forget to thank for all your info n time. we do appreciated.
much appreciated

[k-tech]

addition:
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device connected

[k-tech]

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upload map from cdi to pc

[k-tech]

show legend menu
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[k-tech]

show legend + voltage data
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[k-tech]

Additional keypad programmer
allow you to keep changing, adjusting or re program the map while you're away from your pc/notebook (while touring or etc) of the ignition angle.

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[k-tech]

additional map selector
you may change your own modified curve from 2 maps upto 10 maps
Newbie = 2maps + 2 voltage outputs (X2 energy output optional)
Amateur = 3 maps upgradable to 8 maps (optional) + 2 voltage outputs with X2 energy output included
Pro = 8 maps upgradable to 10 maps + 3 voltage outputs with X2 energy output included
Drag = 10 maps + 4 voltage outputs with X2 energy output included

Note.
basicly, we have loaded the maps into 3 categories.
1. Sport (short distance)
2. Touring (long distance)
3. All Sport
(based on our R&D on common local bikes produced here)


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On Suzuki FXR, it has a gear sensor, so you may directly connected to CDI out put map connector.
So, you will have 6 different maps + 1 neutral, which directly connected to the gear sensor (requiring a support cdi-amateur with 8 maps)
Then each gear will have its own map, its own character, its own power