Calling all 2-stroke fans.

[Whitebait]

I'm interested to know what you have and if you race it.

If you have had or would like another 250 would would you get??

I think a 2-stroke class could work if we had the numbers to fill class or a sub class within F3.

Sort of like Pro twin but 2-stroke Revival.

Just an idea at this stage. Even if it's not an offical class just a bit of friendly competion to get a few more people on the track.

Wanganui is currently 2-stroke central with 4 regularly raced bikes. ( 2 NSR's a KR1 and a RGV)

I'll start:

Glenn Mason #10
1991 NSR250R
Done 20 races in the last 2 years.

[gammaguy]

good idea,personally i would love to see more 2T bikes out there.

Truth is the last thing the sponsors(largely trade based)want to see is a whole lot of strokers kicking the ass out of all the 4T stuff they are selling/importing/making products for.

I say go for it,but forget any industry support for it,cause it aint gonna happen.

i would love to eat my words!

[lostinflyz]

sounds like the usual race within a race scenario. all the 400 are in a class of their own too. haha.

Im sure i saw your name in the NZGP program at nats. Why didn't you start your 2 smoker revival then??

[quickbuck]

Well Glenn,
Yes, a 2-Stroke Fan.... and looking forward to racing on Saturday.
Shame the 50 won't really cut it in F3 though....

In saying that, I have fixed 2 RG50's of the competition today... Pilots always need a maintainer.... Weird that both of them were on my Technicians course before they went to "the other side" though....

All that a side, I only have one 4 stroke entered..... a Honda C50!
The smell alone will be awersome!

[Racey Rider]

Racey Rider
#41
97 RGV250v

Had it out at a couple of races. Still learning how to ride it really. ( Tire warmer are for Girls )

Hope to be at Taupo in two weeks.
And then All Vic club rounds.

Sponsors welcome :yes:

[Skunk]

Winter Series: F2. Now turn up.

[CHOPPA]

There were quite a few in F3 on the weeked, one of them sounded real loud and chrisp!!

[malcy25]

Track down Nigel Lambourne in Te Awamutu, he's been trying to get a similar thing going in The upper North island at AMCC events.

[Whitebait]

sounds like the usual race within a race scenario. all the 400 are in a class of their own too. haha.

Im sure i saw your name in the NZGP program at nats. Why didn't you start your 2 smoker revival then??

We've been battling together most of the year all on about the same pace!

Just wanna spread the word so other 250 riders know we are keen.

[neil_cb125t]

I too loved the smokers - i had a gen lucky strike VJ23 tried racing it but she was not lucky at all - The F3 rules on 250 smokers are good but its apparant that they will not be competitive on a national scale within F3.

Get riders together who will compete at the whole of VMCC - propose to the club ( vic club )you would like a class within a class. You'll be racing in F3 but scoring like pro twins, but simply use F3rules for your class - SIMPLE I.e points scored within F3 go towards a 2 stroke championship.

You'll need 6 entrants MINIMUM per round for the class to stand.

Ill even try and sort funds for the class - Im hoping to be part of the org side of VMCC this year so can chew of someones ear

what you reckon glen?? - u get 10 or so keen and we can make it happen

[codgyoleracer]

I love two strokes , always have and always will. There aint a better internal combustion engine made that suits motorcycle use. Light, Lots of Power, plenty of torque etc . I say liberate them a little & allow them to be developed. Probably need to stop short of a full on pre90 TZ though, - (otherwise i know what i would be building next......... :-) )

[Whitebait]

I too loved the smokers - i had a gen lucky strike VJ23 tried racing it but she was not lucky at all - The F3 rules on 250 smokers are good but its apparant that they will not be competitive on a national scale within F3.

Get riders together who will compete at the whole of VMCC - propose to the club ( vic club )you would like a class within a class. You'll be racing in F3 but scoring like pro twins, but simply use F3rules for your class - SIMPLE I.e points scored within F3 go towards a 2 stroke championship.

You'll need 6 entrants MINIMUM per round for the class to stand.

Ill even try and sort funds for the class - Im hoping to be part of the org side of VMCC this year so can chew of someones ear

what you reckon glen?? - u get 10 or so keen and we can make it happen

Sounds like a plan to me Chappy!

I'll be sitting out for the winter bt that doesn't mean my bike won't be on the grid..............GRIN

Just think Glen Williams on a ozone desrtoying 90hp 2-stoke race bike rather than a commuter bike.............I'd love to see that!

So come on 2 stroke fans sign up!

[Str8 Jacket]

I absolutely love 2 strokes and had considered racing a 250+ 2smoker after a few years on a pro twin. However after seizing my RG150 piston last Friday at the test day, I have to conceed.... I almost don't have enough fingers left to count how many 2smoker engines I have destroyed from seizures and that's just on the last 3 years. Still absolutely love them though, with a lot more money and time to maintain it reguarly I would race an RGV250.

Incidnetally there was a '73 H2 and a MINT, late 80's RG500 parked by our pits at the Nationals!! :drool:

[neil_cb125t]

Sounds like a plan to me Chappy!

I'll be sitting out for the winter bt that doesn't mean my bike won't be on the grid..............GRIN

Just think Glen Williams on a ozone desrtoying 90hp 2-stoke race bike rather than a commuter bike.............I'd love to see that!

So come on 2 stroke fans sign up!


i too will be watching but thats ok - my frame and other parts ( light weight race rims.... cough cough ) are getting painted as we speak.....

you call in ya smokers mates - and we can talk to VMCC.

[eelracing]

you call in ya smokers mates - and we can talk to VMCC.



It goes without saying,but i'm in.
Mark E
1990 RGV 250L
#183

[RDjase]

Im in, #108 RD350LC(have 250 as well) RGV250, RZ350,

2 strokes rule

[tzrbrett]

Sounds like a plan!!!!!!

[dave o]

im keen

i race an 89 tzr250
#90

nice 3ma in your picture brett

[Whitebait]

YES more keen people!!! Good to see a couple of Yammy's coming out of the woodwork!!

If you know of someone that has a 2toker get them to some their interest on here.

[nzkr1]

There were quite a few in F3 on the weeked, one of them sounded real loud and chrisp!!

I don't want skite about it but that was mine and I smoked the others he he he he....

[nzkr1]

The KR1 is now for sale. Am building another one though so I'll be there Simoncelli!
So if anyones keen on a FAST 250 stroker send me a PM.

[rachprice]

Dammit I want in.....RGV was my first bike and I still pine for one!

[Whitebait]

Gonna aim for Manfeild Long Track Sat 9th October the last round of the winter series.

2 STROKE REVIVAL

Will talk to the Vic Club this week and see what we can work out!

[satchriossi]

I can commit to being on the grid for the final round on 9th October and support the proposed new class idea.

I'd prefer to keep it within F3 so we're still on track with the bigger fourstrokes - i think the 2T vs 4T thing is quite a good crowd pleaser too.

Tom Nock
1992 NSR250

[Skunk]

As I said before - F3 rules allow two strokes. VMCC runs F3 classes. All you have to do is enter.
There is nothing that needs doing to the 'rules' or by the clubs. It has always been up to you to enter.

Pointless thread other than showing how many 'say' they want to race but don't bother entering races. *sigh*
Kinda like the Motards asking us for their own class and then not turning up. Or the Open twins we ran at last years Nationals... You'll find it an uphill battle to get you own class now without FIRST proving you'll race. You can only do that by entering F3 or Clubmans. Over to you lot.

BTW: I'm building a two stroke twin to race so I'd like to see more out there too.

[nzkr1]

As I said before - F3 rules allow two strokes. VMCC runs F3 classes. All you have to do is enter.
There is nothing that needs doing to the 'rules' or by the clubs. It has always been up to you to enter.

Pointless thread other than showing how many 'say' they want to race but don't bother entering races. *sigh*
Kinda like the Motards asking us for their own class and then not turning up. Or the Open twins we ran at last years Nationals... You'll find it an uphill battle to get you own class now without FIRST proving you'll race. You can only do that by entering F3 or Clubmans. Over to you lot.

BTW: I'm building a two stroke twin to race so I'd like to see more out there too.

What are you building?

[Skunk]

What are you building?RD400 in a ZXR250 frame. Pointless I know, but should be fun.

[RDjase]

RD400 in a ZXR250 frame. Pointless I know, but should be fun.

Looks good too skunk !
The intake looks cool with the TZR reed blocks.

What class is your RD/ZXR eligable for? My LC350 isnt allowed in F3 and not sure what other class apart from Postys I can run.
I am doing pro twin open as a second class in the BRM series, just more track time really

[Skunk]

Looks good too skunk !
The intake looks cool with the TZR reed blocks.

What class is your RD/ZXR eligable for? My LC350 isnt allowed in F3 and not sure what other class apart from Postys I can run.
I am doing pro twin open as a second class in the BRM series, just more track time reallyClubmans. F2 I think... must check. Don't think I can run Pre89 even though the parts are all pre 89 (checking the rules I can't see anything stopping me, but if someone KNOWS otherwise let me know). Can't see me being fast enough for F2 anyway, and I'll never crack the 1:18 at Manfeild which is the 'cutoff' for Clubmans with VMCC.

[nzkr1]

Clubmans. F2 I think... must check. Don't think I can run Pre89 even though the parts are all pre 89 (checking the rules I can't see anything stopping me, but if someone KNOWS otherwise let me know). Can't see me being fast enough for F2 anyway, and I'll never crack the 1:18 at Manfeild which is the 'cutoff' for Clubmans with VMCC.

I'm thinking posties, junior even....

[RDjase]

Clubmans. F2 I think... must check. Don't think I can run Pre89 even though the parts are all pre 89 (checking the rules I can't see anything stopping me, but if someone KNOWS otherwise let me know). Can't see me being fast enough for F2 anyway, and I'll never crack the 1:18 at Manfeild which is the 'cutoff' for Clubmans with VMCC.


I'm thinking posties, junior even....

You would be ok for Pre89 junior I guess, There is mention of USD forks in the regs but they are standard on your Bike so must be ok. Bit of a grey area
The F3 250cc stroke rules us out for that and F2 doesnt mention bugger all about 2 strokes. Must have another read of the rule book. Would be good to do 2 classes in the Winter series

Be good if the over 250 strokes can run in F2, A whole feild of TZ, RD and hybred strokers running in a class within a class

Dont think the F2 racers would like it tho:shit:

[RDjase]

I don't want skite about it but that was mine and I smoked the others he he he he....

It does sound bloody good George ! I hav seen you a Andy Mac on his LC have some great battles,

Be good you will have another bike and your old one will be racing as well

I can smell the R30 from here:yes:

[Billy]

So is now a good time to mention Ive got an RGV 250L SP for sale,Eligible for pre89 and F3,Adjustable suspension at both ends and a good engine,Complete bike minus bodywork and tank,Needs some tlc to get on the track but cheap at $750.00 and also an RGV250M,Tidy and complete but deregistered $2000.00

[Whitebait]

As I said before - F3 rules allow two strokes. VMCC runs F3 classes. All you have to do is enter.
There is nothing that needs doing to the 'rules' or by the clubs. It has always been up to you to enter.

Pointless thread other than showing how many 'say' they want to race but don't bother entering races. *sigh*
Kinda like the Motards asking us for their own class and then not turning up. Or the Open twins we ran at last years Nationals... You'll find it an uphill battle to get you own class now without FIRST proving you'll race. You can only do that by entering F3 or Clubmans. Over to you lot.

BTW: I'm building a two stroke twin to race so I'd like to see more out there too.

It's not about having our own class (to start with anyway) but getting more people that have bikes on to the track.

We will be racing within F3.

It's not a pointless thread if it gets another 2 or 3 people on the track....................I'm giving it a crack why don't you try and help

F3 has turned into a cluster fuck and I think it needs to be broken off into 2 classes the fast guys and the slow guys down on a lap time cut off point....................just my thoughts though.

A lot of people are keen so hopefully we can make it a bit of a spectator event as well.

[RDjase]

It's not about having our own class (to start with anyway) but getting more people that have bikes on to the track.

We will be racing within F3.

It's not a pointless thread if it gets another 2 or 3 people on the track....................I'm giving it a crack why don't you try and help

F3 has turned into a cluster fuck and I think it needs to be broken off into 2 classes the fast guys and the slow guys down on a lap time cut off point....................just my thoughts though.

A lot of people are keen so hopefully we can make it a bit of a spectator event as well.

I have probably got enough bits to build another LC/RZ and run a 250 engine in it for F3 in my odds and sods parts. It wont be competitive but it will be fun

I will Leave my LC350 for pre 82

[nzkr1]

I have probably got enough bits to build another LC/RZ and run a 250 engine in it for F3 in my odds and sods parts. It wont be competitive but it will be fun



Sure it will if whitebait is going to ride the way he has....

[nzkr1]

It does sound bloody good George ! I hav seen you a Andy Mac on his LC have some great battles,

Be good you will have another bike and your old one will be racing as well

I can smell the R30 from here:yes:

Image that, 2 KR1s at the pointy end of the other 250 strokers...

[Skunk]

It's not about having our own class (to start with anyway) but getting more people that have bikes on to the track.

We will be racing within F3.

It's not a pointless thread if it gets another 2 or 3 people on the track....................I'm giving it a crack why don't you try and help

F3 has turned into a cluster fuck and I think it needs to be broken off into 2 classes the fast guys and the slow guys down on a lap time cut off point....................just my thoughts though.

A lot of people are keen so hopefully we can make it a bit of a spectator event as well.You missed my point. We are waiting for you to enter. The class is already there and has been for years. Just enter.
There's been a whole lot of posts along the lines of 'cool' and 'I'm keen' so the question is "where the hell have you been?" It's been waiting for you. That's why I have said twice - ENTER. There is nothing more to be done. There's no rules to make or classes to create.

Going by this thread we should have several 2 stokes at the Winter Series. Excellent!

One problem with breaking classes into two is where do you fit it into the programme? Most clubs run into issues with trying to fit what they have into a meeting. And we can only fit 35 on the grid at Manfeild. F3 is a popular class (except at Nationals it seems). If you're not fast enough (top 35) you'll be put into the next best class.

[nzkr1]

There's been a whole lot of posts along the lines of 'cool' and 'I'm keen' so the question is "where the hell have you been?" It's been waiting for you. That's why I have said twice - ENTER. There is nothing more to be done. There's no rules to make or classes to create.

.

I raced at every Vic Club meeting last year and so did whaiebait, and us 250 strokers made up a third of the F3 feild at the last national round. And by the Sunday we nearly made up half the feild. My 2 cents worth.....

[Skunk]

I raced at every Vic Club meeting last year and so did whaiebait, and us 250 strokers made up a third of the F3 feild at the last national round. And by the Sunday we nearly made up half the feild. My 2 cents worth.....I wasn't referring to you as you WERE there. That sentence was aimed at those that say they are keen.

[Whitebait]

You missed my point. We are waiting for you to enter. The class is already there and has been for years. Just enter.
There's been a whole lot of posts along the lines of 'cool' and 'I'm keen' so the question is "where the hell have you been?" It's been waiting for you. That's why I have said twice - ENTER. There is nothing more to be done. There's no rules to make or classes to create.

Going by this thread we should have several 2 stokes at the Winter Series. Excellent!

One problem with breaking classes into two is where do you fit it into the programme? Most clubs run into issues with trying to fit what they have into a meeting. And we can only fit 35 on the grid at Manfeild. F3 is a popular class (except at Nationals it seems). If you're not fast enough (top 35) you'll be put into the next best class.

Stop being a hater! There's a whole forum of threads to talk shit in..................

So far we have 11 people keen.

We saw at Round 4 of the Nationals that the 2-stroke boys are keen............where were all the 400 riders............

Keen doesn't mean you have to do every race possible.

NZKR1 has put his hand up to be the class leader...........he's gonna wear a day glow vest and you get 10 bonus points if you knock him off!!!!

Lets see if we can get 20 people keen by the end of this week.

[satchriossi]

Would it be fair to say that as F3 stands at the moment, a proddy 250 doesn't stand a hope in hell of winning a race?

When new riders are looking for a class or choosing a machine to race, surely when making the decision they will consider which machines are most competitive within the formula - to give them the best chance of doing well during their time in the class. I'm sure no-one starts out thinking; "yeah i'm gonna be a top 20 man!"

That being the case, they're gonna steer WELL clear of the 250s because of my first point above.

With the proposed 'Two Stroke Revival' class to be run within F3, class wins or podium finishes are suddenly feasible again for these [I]relatively[I] slower machines. It would serve to make the 250s a more attractive class to run in. Especially when you factor in the passion many people have for 2 stroke machines, having a class to run them in where a race win was a very real possibility could only serve to bring more riders in.

Again i stress this would be a 'class within F3'. The 250 rider might finish 11th overall in the field but if he's the first 2T over the line then that would be a 'TSR' class win.

You see - TSR (two stroke revival), it even SOUNDS cool.

[nzkr1]

Stop being a hater! There's a whole forum of threads to talk shit in..................

So far we have 11 people keen.

We saw at Round 4 of the Nationals that the 2-stroke boys are keen............where were all the 400 riders............

Keen doesn't mean you have to do every race possible.

NZKR1 has put his hand up to be the class leader...........he's gonna wear a day glow vest and you get 10 bonus points if you knock him off!!!!

Lets see if we can get 20 people keen by the end of this week.

Bring it on whitebait, catch me if you can... Maybe we could offer a prise to the 250 winner on the day or over the series... providing Vic Club don't have a problem with that.

[satchriossi]

yeah, and a championship points system just for TSR, that'd make the competition between the 2Ts more exciting over the course of a season.

It'd mean we just have to beat the fast KR1 dude, rather than having to pull off a minor miracle and keep up with Mr Williams and his carbon wheels.

[Whitebait]

This is good!

Any idea or ideas that can make racing more fun is a good one.

At the end of the day there are people out there who race for fun.............we can't all be as fast as Jorge or Vale

Your KR1 is fast George and you are a good rider (There I said it) I'm taking the moral high ground.

I've got a couple of little traicks up my sleeve for the NSR which are sure to be within the rules................just!! ;)

How many guys on 2T's would be doing the tri-series??

Tom TSR is a great name for the "class"............we'll keep that.

[nzkr1]

yeah, and a championship points system just for TSR, that'd make the competition between the 2Ts more exciting over the course of a season.

It'd mean we just have to beat the fast KR1 dude, rather than having to pull off a minor miracle and keep up with Mr Williams and his carbon wheels.

It's a fast KR1, the pilot can't ride to save himself....

[Racey Rider]

It'd be nice to tell the sponsor "I got sixth in the TSR class" rather than 35th in F3. :yes:

So we going to be sitting round the bar-b sharing jetting lies?? :shifty:

[neil_cb125t]

It'd be nice to tell the sponsor "I got sixth in the TSR class" rather than 35th in F3. :yes:

So we going to be sitting round the bar-b sharing jetting lies?? :shifty:

Must stay with the MAIN idea here - which is to get more people out on the track.... F3 is the only class where you can get all you 2 stroke boys and girls out there. It still won't be a national class ( at this stage ) so nationally you will still have to say you place what ever in F3.

Many people ask me why im doing nationals on my 400 - as " they are competitive enough " its all about getting more riders to compete at the countries highest level. be proud of what you ride - the more competition you all have the better you will become, whos knows with enough of you out there -you may get someone to get there Apilly RS up to 75-80 HP doing 1:16's and less!!

its always better to be the small fish that makes big ripples in the big boys pool.

[t3mp0r4ry nzr]

Sounds good! strokers bring out the keen and the mad! they sound and smell great. more strokers out there will only encourage more strokers out from garages and onto the track.

[Yow Ling]

Must stay with the MAIN idea here - which is to get more people out on the track.... F3 is the only class where you can get all you 2 stroke boys and girls out there. .

Unless you have an LC or a TZ350 RZ350 rz500 RG400 or 500 NS400 so yea f3 is ok for some ring dings but not many

[satchriossi]

I would support the inclusion of older, larger engined two strokes as listed above.

They have relatively inferior frames and brakes and narrow wheels/limited tyre choice compared to MC21s, 3XVs and VJ22s etc so in theory their capacity advantage would be offset by those features.

If they let air cooled 750 twins (Ducatis...) in then surely old steel framed 2T 350s, 400s and 500s would be fair too?

I'm pleased the TSR abreviation has been well received lol!:Punk:

[RDjase]

I would support the inclusion of older, larger engined two strokes as listed above.

They have relatively inferior frames and brakes and narrow wheels/limited tyre choice compared to MC21s, 3XVs and VJ22s etc so in theory their capacity advantage would be offset by those features.

If they let air cooled 750 twins (Ducatis...) in then surely old steel framed 2T 350s, 400s and 500s would be fair too?

I'm pleased the TSR abreviation has been well received lol!:Punk:

Great post !

My LC350 isnt eligable for F3 and isnt even competive in it anyway. Narrow wheels ! My LC has 1.85 by 18 wheels front and rear and 100/90 front and 110/80 rear tyres lol
Its like riding on gingernuts

Be great to be out with a whole lot of strokers and hopfully the Post Classic stroker riders get enthused as this would be a awesome extra class for us

Only trouble is F3 is a pretty full class and we dont suit the F3 rules

[Skunk]

Stop being a hater! There's a whole forum of threads to talk shit in....WTF are you on about?! I'm telling you to enter and you're telling me I'm a hater. FFS!

If you want a class this is no way to encourage me to bring it to the committee. You come across to me as a dickhead who can't tell when someone is trying to help.
Let me spell this out to you in small words:
If we have no entries why would we create a class?
Enter in F3 and we'll see if it warrants a separate class.
We WILL NOT create a class on a promise that you will turn up.
For you to have separate points etc creates a lot of work for me and others. I'm volunteering my time and all you can do is rubbish my effort. I'm a little fucked off right now.

Now stop abusing those trying to help.

[nzkr1]

WTF are you on about?! I'm telling you to enter and you're telling me I'm a hater. FFS!

If you want a class this is no way to encourage me to bring it to the committee. You come across to me as a dickhead who can't tell when someone is trying to help.
Let me spell this out to you in small words:
If we have no entries why would we create a class?
Enter in F3 and we'll see if it warrants a separate class.
We WILL NOT create a class on a promise that you will turn up.
For you to have separate points etc creates a lot of work for me and others. I'm volunteering my time and all you can do is rubbish my effort. I'm a little fucked off right now.

Now stop abusing those trying to help.

Well said, I have had to tell him to keep his trap shut before now too. That's how he got arseholed out of the post classic juniors, by mouthing off...

[nzkr1]

Bike now on trademe, so another option for someone to race a stroker in F3.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-276458018.htm

[RDjase]

Bike now on trademe, so another option for someone to race a stroker in F3.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-276458018.htm

Thats alot of bike for the money George, I spent more than in parts for my new LC engine and still have another grand or so to go, Should be fast tho and hopefully reliable

Be good to see you racing against your old bike too

Whats the new bike you are building?

[nzkr1]

Thats alot of bike for the money George, I spent more than in parts for my new LC engine and still have another grand or so to go, Should be fast tho and hopefully reliable

Be good to see you racing against your old bike too

Whats the new bike you are building?

A KR1S, which will be exactly the same... fast!

[Whitebait]

WTF are you on about?! I'm telling you to enter and you're telling me I'm a hater. FFS!

If you want a class this is no way to encourage me to bring it to the committee. You come across to me as a dickhead who can't tell when someone is trying to help.
Let me spell this out to you in small words:
If we have no entries why would we create a class?
Enter in F3 and we'll see if it warrants a separate class.
We WILL NOT create a class on a promise that you will turn up.
For you to have separate points etc creates a lot of work for me and others. I'm volunteering my time and all you can do is rubbish my effort. I'm a little fucked off right now.

Now stop abusing those trying to help.



Winter Series: F2. Now turn up.

As I said before - F3 rules allow two strokes. VMCC runs F3 classes. All you have to do is enter.
There is nothing that needs doing to the 'rules' or by the clubs. It has always been up to you to enter.

Pointless thread other than showing how many 'say' they want to race but don't bother entering races. *sigh*
Kinda like the Motards asking us for their own class and then not turning up. Or the Open twins we ran at last years Nationals... You'll find it an uphill battle to get you own class now without FIRST proving you'll race. You can only do that by entering F3 or Clubmans. Over to you lot.

BTW: I'm building a two stroke twin to race so I'd like to see more out there too.

RD400 in a ZXR250 frame. Pointless I know, but should be fun.

Clubmans. F2 I think... must check. Don't think I can run Pre89 even though the parts are all pre 89 (checking the rules I can't see anything stopping me, but if someone KNOWS otherwise let me know). Can't see me being fast enough for F2 anyway, and I'll never crack the 1:18 at Manfeild which is the 'cutoff' for Clubmans with VMCC.

You missed my point. We are waiting for you to enter. The class is already there and has been for years. Just enter.
There's been a whole lot of posts along the lines of 'cool' and 'I'm keen' so the question is "where the hell have you been?" It's been waiting for you. That's why I have said twice - ENTER. There is nothing more to be done. There's no rules to make or classes to create.

Going by this thread we should have several 2 stokes at the Winter Series. Excellent!

One problem with breaking classes into two is where do you fit it into the programme? Most clubs run into issues with trying to fit what they have into a meeting. And we can only fit 35 on the grid at Manfeild. F3 is a popular class (except at Nationals it seems). If you're not fast enough (top 35) you'll be put into the next best class.

I wasn't referring to you as you WERE there. That sentence was aimed at those that say they are keen.


That is what you posted! (how am I to find that helpful if I were a interested racer)

I don't know who you are or what you do.

My name was on my first post and what I ride and how many races I've done............So if anyone who would be interested in getting on the track might see that I might know a good way to go about it.

I was just trying to start a productive thread encouraging like minded 2-stroke lovers to come and race and have some fun on their bikes.

All good if you want to get your knickers in a twist I just wanted to see one thread on KB forums that didn't turn into a shit fight and would actually made people want to start racing.

George is still angry cause I beat him at Taupo...........evn though I have been extremely nice to him lately.

I apolgise to you Skunk if I came accros as a dickhead but can you see what I mean.............................????

[RDjase]

2 Strokes a plenty in BRM Pro twin open class. RGV's, LC's, TZ's and a few RSV's and Dukes.

[nzkr1]

It's now time to put your money where your mouth is all you F3 spec 250 stokers. Closing date for the 1st round of the Vic Club winter series is tomorrow.
Hurry up and get your entries in or expect another KR1 whitewash!!!!!!

[rachprice]

-you may get someone to get there Apilly RS up to 75-80 HP doing 1:16's and less!!



No reason why you cant do that, I know a certain TT title rider that did 1:16 in his day on a KR-1

[nzkr1]

It's now time to put your money where your mouth is all you F3 spec 250 stokers. Closing date for the 1st round of the Vic Club winter series is tomorrow.
Hurry up and get your entries in or expect another KR1 whitewash!!!!!!

[nzkr1]

No reason why you cant do that, I know a certain TT title rider that did 1:16 in his day on a KR-1

Getting close now, just need to lose 3 more seconds!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Getting close now, just need to lose 3 more seconds!

No problem mate! Just leave the brake lever alone and pray!

[steveyb]

Yep, 1:16.00 was the go even in 1989/90.
NZ 250 Production Champ 1989 or 1990 (forget which) did 1:16.00 on NSR250 MC18 with standard gearing back then.
Not truely competitive in F3 Superlite now, but still a pretty fun time to be riding around Manfeild.

[steveyb]

By the way,
I have heard that the Taupo Road Race Spectacular will be running a GP class to include 350's, 250's, 125's and 250 Proddy bikes.
True?
If so I will be dragging out the '89 RS250 and tallking Mike into dragging out the '92 RS250.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yep, 1:16.00 was the go even in 1989/90.
NZ 250 Production Champ 1989 or 1990 (forget which) did 1:16.00 on NSR250 MC18 with standard gearing back then.
Not truely competitive in F3 Superlite now, but still a pretty fun time to be riding around Manfeild.

Don't think it would've been until 90 that anyone on an NSR went 16 flat. Probably Dave Cole then.

[nzkr1]

By the way,
I have heard that the Taupo Road Race Spectacular will be running a GP class to include 350's, 250's, 125's and 250 Proddy bikes.
True?
If so I will be dragging out the '89 RS250 and tallking Mike into dragging out the '92 RS250.

Why don't you ride your 89 RS250 in the Post Classic pre 89 junior class anyway??

[eelracing]

It's now time to put your money where your mouth is all you F3 spec 250 stokers. Closing date for the 1st round of the Vic Club winter series is tomorrow.
Hurry up and get your entries in or expect another KR1 whitewash!!!!!!


Sorry bud i'm out for the first round as there's a charity VMX in Fordell on the same day.

Lookn' forward to the long track rounds coming up tho.

I'm sure the RGV crew of Eddie,Dawsy and Perry will keep ya hands full...in the Kr's case probably the clutch hand haha.

Rumour has it a certain pink ex swinger is soon to join the crew.

[steveyb]

Why don't you ride your 89 RS250 in the Post Classic pre 89 junior class anyway??

Too busy running Moto Academy NZ and can't really justify, with the family, winter racing anymore.
But will get away with a one off in the summer, I hope!!

[steveyb]

Don't think it would've been until 90 that anyone on an NSR went 16 flat. Probably Dave Cole then.

Wayne Picard.
Can't remember what meeting it was anymore, it was too long ago now.
Do recall that it caused quite a stir in the paddock at the time.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well if Wayne Picard is the chap I think he is/was, I somehow doubt it. Think he was still riding NSR's when I was doing 250's, and he wasn't winning.

[quickbuck]

Well if Wayne Picard is the chap I think he is/was, I somehow doubt it. Think he was still riding NSR's when I was doing 250's, and he wasn't winning.

One out of the park lap..... with manual lap timing?????

[Billy]

Don't think it would've been until 90 that anyone on an NSR went 16 flat. Probably Dave Cole then.

Bang on the money Pete,National points round at Manfeild 89/90 season,Dave Cole(NSR)and Nathan Spargo(RGV L) 1.16,01,

[Crasherfromwayback]

Bang on the money Pete,National points round at Manfeild 89/90 season,Dave Cole(NSR)and Nathan Spargo(RGV L) 1.16,01,

Thought as much. I never raced against Nathan, but have done plenty of laps with Dave. Whilst Daves NSR was hell quick...he certainly rode it really well. Bruce Ainstey, Dave Cole and Simon Turner are the fastest guys I've raced with. Maybe Brett Richmond too.

[steveyb]

Well if Wayne Picard is the chap I think he is/was, I somehow doubt it. Think he was still riding NSR's when I was doing 250's, and he wasn't winning.

Only Shell 250 Production Trophy winner and National 250 Production champion 1989/90 (or maybe it was 1990/91), it was a while back.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Only Shell 250 Production Trophy winner and National 250 Production champion 1989/90 (or maybe it was 1990/91), it was a while back.

Certainly wasn't 1990/1991. And if he won it in 89/90...it's not the chappie I was thinking it was!

[steveyb]

Thinking now it was in fact '88/'89 season on NSR 250 having done previous season on KR1.
He qualified for WSBK races at Manfeild in 91 or 92 on his RC30.
Didn't get to race though, mechanical fault chucked him off the bike going into Higgins and he damaged his elbow, so Paul Pav rode in the races.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah think I know of the chappy now! Awesome effort to qualify for the world supers. I was racing 250's at the wsb meetings...was a huge buzz even doing that.

[mastiboy]

g/f and i heard that they are scraping 150 streetstock, why the fuck would these tossers do that? the fat controler that was there was arguing against it but brian bersnard rekened they needed to get fazed out y next year. i think they were talking about replacing it 250 gpclass again. they were all pretty pissed though, complaing about drinking all the jack daniels. what homos!

[Kickaha]

g/f and i heard that they are scraping 150 streetstock, why the fuck would these tossers do that? the fat controler that was there was arguing against it but brian bersnard rekened they needed to get fazed out y next year. i think they were talking about replacing it 250 gpclass again.

Now we know you're talking shit because 250GP coming back again is in the realms of fantasy, so just whos alias are you?

[nzkr1]

Well so much for this thread getting people motivated to race at the Vic Club winter series in F3. Only 6 confirmed 2 stroke entries in F3!!!! Not even the thread starter has entered. Where are you Simoncelli??? why haven't you entered??? And you want Vic Club to do what for the 250 two stroke riders????? As you were...

[dangerous]

-I'm interested to know what you have and if you race it.
-If you have had or would like another 250 would would you get??
-I think a 2-stroke class could work if we had the numbers to fill class
NB: only read 1st post

-MB100MT, RD350LC and 250LC (Rashika's)
-NSR250RR (MVX250)
-CAMs down here have had stroker only classes... works well mostly old shitters tho, jap and euro

[phoenixgtr]

g/f and i heard that they are scraping 150 streetstock, why the fuck would these tossers do that? the fat controler that was there was arguing against it but brian bersnard rekened they needed to get fazed out y next year. i think they were talking about replacing it 250 gpclass again. they were all pretty pissed though, complaing about drinking all the jack daniels. what homos!

They're going to phase out the 150s and replace them with the streetstock 250's which are 4 stroke twins like hyosungs and ninja 250s. It's already started

[Racey Rider]

Well so much for this thread getting people motivated to race at the Vic Club winter series in F3. Only 6 confirmed 2 stroke entries in F3!!!! Not even the thread starter has entered. Where are you Simoncelli??? why haven't you entered??? And you want Vic Club to do what for the 250 two stroke riders????? As you were...

Sorry, thou I had intended to enter, Had two hic-ups.
1. (yerr,but....... I still can't find the problem causing my RGV to drop to one cyclinder when under load. Thought it was coil, changed coil /leads /plugs, still problem. Disconect Reg/Rec - still problem. No point racing a RGV on one cyclinder.
2.(yerr, but.... I see the programe place F3 right before my main Prolite class. would put too much pressure on me rushing onto my Main Sponsored class.

[RDjase]

Sorry, thou I had intended to enter, Had two hic-ups.
1. (yerr,but....... I still can't find the problem causing my RGV to drop to one cyclinder when under load. Thought it was coil, changed coil /leads /plugs, still problem. Disconect Reg/Rec - still problem. No point racing a RGV on one cyclinder.
2.(yerr, but.... I see the programe place F3 right before my main Prolite class. would put too much pressure on me rushing onto my Main Sponsored class.

My RGV does the same thing, Havnt even looked at it tho, Hope its something easy.

Back to back races makes for a busy day,

Are you running the heidenau tyres, wouldnt mind see some in the flesh

My LC is in bits for a winter overhaul, its 350 so cant do F3 anyway.

[Kickaha]

My LC is in bits for a winter overhaul, its 350 so cant do F3 anyway.

Run it in F2 you big girls blouse :lol:

[RDjase]

Run it in F2 you big girls blouse :lol:

That would be fun....................................

be great if we got a whole heap of TZ's 350 and LC's, RZ's and any other over 250 2 strokes running in F2, a cloud of smoke off the back of the grid, A race within a race, til we get Blue flags and lapped

I run in Pro Twin Open as a 2nd class in the BRM Summer Series, We have more 2 strokes running in it than big V twins,

[Whitebait]

Well so much for this thread getting people motivated to race at the Vic Club winter series in F3. Only 6 confirmed 2 stroke entries in F3!!!! Not even the thread starter has entered. Where are you Simoncelli??? why haven't you entered??? And you want Vic Club to do what for the 250 two stroke riders????? As you were...

I'm gonna have a break from racing for a while and give something else a go for a while.

You will see me at a few rounds this year though George...........although not in leathers..........AS YOU WERE!!!

[Racey Rider]

Are you running the heidenau tyres, wouldnt mind see some in the flesh.

Unfortunitly our Heidenau tyre shipment won't be arriving till mid June, so no not yet.
I will be bringing a few new 18" race tyres though for anyone who wants to stick a fingernail into them.

[racer40]

yep, steveb, the TRRS is going to be running a GP class at the meet, with maybe 250 proddy bikes in any form within the race, more details when entry forms come out in about 4 weeks

[RDjase]

It's now time to put your money where your mouth is all you F3 spec 250 stokers. Closing date for the 1st round of the Vic Club winter series is tomorrow.
Hurry up and get your entries in or expect another KR1 whitewash!!!!!!

Your bike was sounding good George, Was to hard watching the racing. I did say I was having 6 months racing off ,changing that to 6 months off racing the LC..........................

Got my RGV out of the back shed and are susing the miss and getting it ready for Postys and F3

If it blows up it will get my RX125 engine and be bucketised !

[nzkr1]

Your bike was sounding good George, Was to hard watching the racing. I did say I was having 6 months racing off ,changing that to 6 months off racing the LC..........................

Got my RGV out of the back shed and are susing the miss and getting it ready for Postys and F3

If it blows up it will get my RX125 engine and be bucketised !

It might have sounded good early on in the day but after the CDI failed and the crank shit itself it don't go no more.
Made the front row in the posties tho, sweet. Just about had the mesure of that pesky franken cane until the crank flew to bits.
All I need now is someone to press together a new crank for nothing and I'm good to go.

[Crasherfromwayback]

All I need now is someone to press together a new crank for nothing and I'm good to go.

Contact Mark Boyle mate. He may still have bits left over from the 4 or five I fucked in my time there!

[nzkr1]

Contact Mark Boyle mate. He may still have bits left over from the 4 or five I fucked in my time there!

I already have all the bits for the rebuild, got them from PJ motorcycles in the UK. Just need an expert to put it together.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Send the bits down to me mate.

[ttelp15]

It's now time to put your money where your mouth is all you F3 spec 250 stokers. Closing date for the 1st round of the Vic Club winter series is tomorrow.
Hurry up and get your entries in or expect another KR1 whitewash!!!!!!

So did the KR1 "whitewash" the rest of the strokers at round 1?

[nzkr1]

So did the KR1 "whitewash" the rest of the strokers at round 1?.

NO

You cheeky bastard

[RDjase]

It might have sounded good early on in the day but after the CDI failed and the crank shit itself it don't go no more.
Made the front row in the posties tho, sweet. Just about had the mesure of that pesky franken cane until the crank flew to bits.
All I need now is someone to press together a new crank for nothing and I'm good to go.

Bummer, Will it be already for rd 2?

Hope to have my RGV ready, found many possible issues with it, havnt had a chance to road test it,

[nzkr1]

Bummer, Will it be already for rd 2?

Hope to have my RGV ready, found many possible issues with it, havnt had a chance to road test it,

I'll be there, you just make sure you get that RGV sorted.

[RDjase]

I'll be there, you just make sure you get that RGV sorted.

I'm working on it George !

have you got any 18inch rear Tyres, GPRa10? 140 wide? 18x4.00 rim. Dosent have to be flash, anything will be better than a 8 year old Bridgestone

[nzkr1]

I'm working on it George !

have you got any 18inch rear Tyres, GPRa10? 140 wide? 18x4.00 rim. Dosent have to be flash, anything will be better than a 8 year old Bridgestone

Sorry I don't mate. I have always managed to move them on quite quickly on trademe. Surely someone out there will have a half used one for you. Did you not want to purchase a new one?

[RDjase]

Sorry I don't mate. I have always managed to move them on quite quickly on trademe. Surely someone out there will have a half used one for you. Did you not want to purchase a new one?

Not really wanting to buy a new tyre/tyres, I will check Trademe for a pair

Have you tried a 120 on the front on the 17x3inch front rim, thinking they would not fit right and need a 110 like its suposed to have

The RGV is just a spare bike while my pre82 LC is getting a overhaul

[nzkr1]

Not really wanting to buy a new tyre/tyres, I will check Trademe for a pair

Have you tried a 120 on the front on the 17x3inch front rim, thinking they would not fit right and need a 110 like its suposed to have

The RGV is just a spare bike while my pre82 LC is getting a overhaul

A 120 on the 3" rim just looks ugly, don't go there. Start a new thread requesting tyres for your RGV.

[eelracing]

Have you tried a 120 on the front on the 17x3inch front rim, thinking they would not fit right and need a 110 like its suposed to havel


Hey Jase i've got a couple of half decent 110/70/17's I can throw your way.Dunlop gpr or Pirelli sportcorser,whatever suits.

[RDjase]

Hey Jase i've got a couple of half decent 110/70/17's I can throw your way.Dunlop gpr or Pirelli sportcorser,whatever suits.

Cool ! PM sent

Will you be racing at the next meeting?

Hows your LC? getting ready for posties Mate?

[eelracing]

Cool ! PM sent

Will you be racing at the next meeting?

Hows your LC? getting ready for posties Mate?

Yep lookn' forward to the long track.

It's tempting to put her in posties but is a no go at this stage sad to say.

[svr]

Too much nostalgia for 2 strokes on this thread. On the odd rare occaision I hear a crisply jetted stroker properly on the gas out of a slow corner my collarbone starts aching. Some things should be left buried, I reckon.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Too much nostalgia for 2 strokes on this thread. On the odd rare occaision I hear a crisply jetted stroker properly on the gas out of a slow corner my collarbone starts aching. Some things should be left buried, I reckon.

Shame on you mate!

[eelracing]

Shame on you mate!

Haha no shame there,he rides an SV.

But unless i'm very much mistaken its Paul (an ex two stroke racer)and we really should be feelin sorry for the ol' bugger...i'd be wanting an easier ride too if i was him:shifty:

[Crasherfromwayback]

But unless i'm very much mistaken its Paul (an ex two stroke racer)and we really should be feelin sorry for the ol' bugger...i'd be wanting an easier ride too if i was him:shifty:

Like him...I used to race KR1's!

[eelracing]

Contact Mark Boyle mate. He may still have bits left over from the 4 or five I fucked in my time there!

Your crasher rep is undeserved bud...it was those nasty KR's all along.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Your crasher rep is undeserved bud...it was those nasty KR's all along.

Hahaha...wish it was mate! But most of my crashing (bar 1/2 dozen) was purely my fault!

[nzkr1]

Your crasher rep is undeserved bud...it was those nasty KR's all along.

Hey mate thats a big call, how many times you seen me crash. As Pete says, it's the pilot not the nasty KR.

[eelracing]

Hey mate thats a big call, how many times you seen me crash. As Pete says, it's the pilot not the nasty KR.

Coz two strokes have a nasty habit of turning around and BITEing you on the ass...specially when they are running at there best.

But i'm sure i'm just telling you to suck eggs on that front,it's happened to me twice now.

I would'nt have it any other way tho.

[nzkr1]

Coz two strokes have a nasty habit of turning around and BITEing you on the ass...specially when they are running at there best.

But i'm sure i'm just telling you to suck eggs on that front,it's happened to me twice now.

I would'nt have it any other way tho.

Maybe you might need me to tune your bike for you. First you'll have to get a KR1S, then you won't have a problem:yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Coz two strokes have a nasty habit of turning around and BITEing you on the ass...specially when they are running at there best.

But i'm sure i'm just telling you to suck eggs on that front,it's happened to me twice now.

I would'nt have it any other way tho.


Maybe you might need me to tune your bike for you. First you'll have to get a KR1S, then you won't have a problem:yes:

Check this site out you two! And George...how's the KR250 on the site!!??:drool: Let alone the TZ500J!!!

http://rmdmotors.com/

[nzkr1]

:yeah:
Check this site out you two! And George...how's the KR250 on the site!!??:drool: Let alone the TZ500J!!!

http://rmdmotors.com/

NICE:yeah:

[RDjase]

Check this site out you two! And George...how's the KR250 on the site!!??:drool: Let alone the TZ500J!!!

http://rmdmotors.com/

What cool stuff !

I just read about those TZ500's. I got a book off Amazon UK "Yamaha Road racing 2 strokes 1955 to 1993"

Some amazing stuff in it, 3 cylinder TZ350 that the yamaha engineers built as a side project, The Yamaha top brass had cow when it got raced officialy/unoffcialy as well as the twin, cant remeber who was racing it but there were on the podium in the 350 GP's in 1978ish

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah awesome site/shope eh!!! If I was to win Lotto I'd go apeshit there!

[Billy]

Check this site out you two! And George...how's the KR250 on the site!!??:drool: Let alone the TZ500J!!!

http://rmdmotors.com/

Well that brings back some memories,I raced TZ250B back in the seventies (ex Mike Vinsen) and vividly remember Greg Hansford racing his KR 250,Just recently made a tailpiece for a TZ500J for Ken Steadman (ex Brent Jones/Moller Yamaha)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well that brings back some memories,I raced TZ250B back in the seventies (ex Mike Vinsen) and vividly remember Greg Hansford racing his KR 250,Just recently made a tailpiece for a TZ500J for Ken Steadman (ex Brent Jones/Moller Yamaha)

Ditto! Think I came up against Ken and his TZ500 at the Auckland Street race on my KX500! Now that was a while ago!!!

[eelracing]

Check this site out you two! And George...how's the KR250 on the site!!??:drool: Let alone the TZ500J!!!

http://rmdmotors.com/

Stop trying to sell me more smokers crasher...i can't afford the one's i've got.
And P.O.A just means if i have to ask,then I can't afford as well.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Stop trying to sell me more smokers crasher...i can't afford the one's i've got.
And P.O.A just means if i have to ask,then I can't afford as well.

Tell me about it mate. I've got 4 vintage moto-x bikes to pay for yet!

[steveyb]

Check this site out you two! And George...how's the KR250 on the site!!??:drool: Let alone the TZ500J!!!

http://rmdmotors.com/

Kirk Pritchard bought a bike off Rick at RMD.
Rick is an American living in Japan who exports bikes and parts.
Seems to be good to deal with in general, but does not come cheap.
Seems that mid-'90s TZs and even RS's are getting harder and harder to come by.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hmmmm....wishing I still had my 92 RS250 now!!!