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PrincessBandit
6th March 2010, 14:08
This morning I took the car to VTNZ at Takanini for it's WoF. No worries, sitting in the queue waiting my turn, watching all the blokes being successively waved into the test area over the pit...
Then it was my turn. I was asked to get out of my car; I said nah, it's ok I'll do it. Oh dear. That was the wrong thing to say. I was told most definitely to get out of my car for him (tester) to drive in.
Hmmmm. Went inside and asked if it was their policy not to let women drive their vehicles in over the pit and was told - no, it's just that most women don't like to do it and let the male staff do it. Ok, off I go and ask the tester (after checking that my car had passed it's warrant of course) why I couldn't drive my car in despite at least 3 men having done it while I was there watching. He kept saying "no public allowed in there" over and over, even when I said "but male customers are doing it all the time".
Now, there IS a sign saying no access to members of the public in the area; I don't have an issue with that - all good for OSH and all that I assume. BUT (and it's a huge BUTT, i mean but) why are men allowed to break that rule. I mean to say the testers were actively waving the male drivers into the area whereas I was told in no uncertain terms to get out of my car!!!
I've emailed a letter to the station manager asking why there is this discrepancy (veiled "discrimination") against women drivers. If the rule is there, it's there for ALL motorists surely. I wait with bated breath as to what his response will be.
Grrrrrrrrrrrr.
Pussy
6th March 2010, 14:12
What did you put in the letter, PB?
"Dear VTNZ,
Stick it up your arse.
Love,
PB"
:)
PrincessBandit
6th March 2010, 14:17
Hahahaha, funnily enough I thought this morning in the course of my enquiries that I was being polite and reasonable. My daughter was embarrassed though, so perhaps my demeanour wasn't quite what i thought.....
My gripe is that if there is a rule, it applies to all or at least make the sign to say "no women allowed in the area"...haha, wonder how that would go down. Just blatant sexism in my opinion.
pc220
6th March 2010, 14:25
A solid slap around the ears is what those VTNZ (i failed as a real mechanic) testers need. The jumped up little pricks.
Pussy
6th March 2010, 14:27
A solid slap around the ears is what those VTNZ (i failed as a real mechanic) testers need. The jumped up little pricks.
Yep!
Definitely sounds like PB got a rough deal.
A subtle and cutting "get fucked" would have been my reply
yachtie10
6th March 2010, 14:37
while it might be a tiny bit unfair
cest lavie
hope you have got over it
Jonno.
6th March 2010, 14:39
What are you still doing getting warrents from vtnz?
I get incredibly ticked off with this sort of thing, it is sexist and discriminatory, complain, write a letter to your local paper etc. Probably best to use a few more words than Pussy suggested though PB :laugh:
YellowDog
6th March 2010, 14:44
Unfortunately this is not unusual. A young lady from work always asks me to accompany her for her WOF as she knows she will otherwise get told things are wrong that clearly are not.
It really does annoy me that such sharp practices still exist.
Mully
6th March 2010, 14:57
I thought it was illegal for women to drive?
ynot slow
6th March 2010, 15:03
I thought it was illegal for women to drive?
Ditto Asian,Indian women.
Pussy
6th March 2010, 15:12
Probably best to use a few more words than Pussy suggested though PB :laugh:
What do you mean??
Would've got the point across!
FJRider
6th March 2010, 15:36
He was just checking ya out ... looking at the good's .... Wear overalls and the hair in curlers, and see the difference.
You just look too hot ... :yes: :innocent:
cmoore
6th March 2010, 15:41
that is terrible...before you know it they will be opening doors for you and letting you go first and giving you seats on buses and paying for diner and buying you drinks......stop it now girl before the world goes mad!!
Hopeful Bastard
6th March 2010, 15:58
Dont forget Ageism! I only have a little 1.5L Toyota that doesnt even look like a boy racers car.. yet they still failed me for bullshit reasons..
Took my car to a garage in 6 months time.. And they passed me whereas VTNZ have previously failed me for it..
tri boy
6th March 2010, 16:01
Maybe the tester just wanted to sniff the seat.
Don't shoot the messenger:dodge:
PrincessBandit
6th March 2010, 16:01
that is terrible...before you know it they will be opening doors for you and letting you go first and giving you seats on buses and paying for diner and buying you drinks......stop it now girl before the world goes mad!!
Oh, I think you and I both know we're not talking about "societal niceties" here. And trust me, I'm the first one to thank a man for opening a door for me or allowing me to go through first. Even my 18 year old son opens the car door for his girlfriend. This is entirely a different kettle of fish here.
Umm, fish....ooops, must dash off to make the dinner! (kidding - my night off from the kitchen tonight yay!!!)
FJRider
6th March 2010, 16:16
(kidding - my night off from the kitchen tonight yay!!!)
One night off huh ... girl you ARE spoiled ...
mattian
6th March 2010, 16:18
Garages of any kind have been the domain of the male for a millenia.... or more. Just like the kitchen has been the domain of the female. I would'nt walk into the kitchen during a family get together and ask my nana and all my aunties of they wanted a hand with anything!!!! I would probably get a slap !
Maha
6th March 2010, 16:25
Burn ya bra! let ya pits blossom! wear roman sandels and dont let a man walk over you ever again....the little horror.
CookMySock
6th March 2010, 16:29
Sock it to them PB! Time for the bash I say! :angry:
Steve
Slyer
6th March 2010, 16:29
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Again.
blackdog
6th March 2010, 16:45
What are you still doing getting warrents from vtnz?
i'll never use vtnz. failed a wof for my car on both front wheel bearings. put it on a jack at home, no wheel bearing play at all. stupid b'stard thought the play from the top of the suspension when it wasn't loaded was bearings!!
took it to local mech on monday morning, got a wof sweet as
when went back to vtnz they wouldnt believe me, told me i must have replaced the bearings!
the moral of the story, find a nice little owner/operator mechanic in your area and i g'tee you he(or she :lol:) will look after you. they understand the value of repeat business
cmoore
6th March 2010, 16:53
in all seriousness princess...Im sure it is just the fact they are scared of woman drivers that come in in case they run them over...men may not always be better drivers but they are generally more confident...so driving over the two ramps is a doddle, whereas they probably see woman drivers hesitate....and yes you are no doubt more then capable of doing it...but from their point of view you are just another woman.....:)
Usarka
6th March 2010, 16:55
And trust me, I'm the first one to thank a man for opening a door for me or allowing me to go through first.
Funny, guys think the same about women but probably not it quite the same way :lol:
MIXONE
6th March 2010, 17:01
Fuck VTNZ I say.Blackstig is on to it.
AllanB
6th March 2010, 17:09
On the other side of the coin I know of several women who have passed warrants with a light bulb out and told to get it fixed soon ........ wouldn't happen to a bloke (well unless he had spectacular boobs!).
I see where you are coming from though. You should have pointed out that a woman ran the country for 9 years ...... hmmm maybe don't mention that bit!
munster
6th March 2010, 17:10
Avoid VTNZ, they reject cars to keep themselves busy and so they can feel important (self fulfilling industry). I've had similar issues with bearings, seatbelts, various lights etc
When I was building a trailer I went down to speak to an inspector about where exactly to place the side marker lights as what the regs say and what they display (in diagrams) is different. He had absolutely no idea. So I put them where they looked best and guess what, it passed.
One of the inspectors actually took me aside after the initial inspection and asked me questions about the trailer as he liked some of the features and wanted to do the same to his!
But as a rule I avoid VTNZ, overpriced, underworked, pedantic, etc etc etc
I go to the local AA. I know there's a lot of flack about them and ACC, but for a warrant, one of the best in town, reasonably priced, half price warrant with a service, never picked up something that wasn't there (not like local VTNZ wankers).
cmoore
6th March 2010, 17:15
I have had issues with VTNZ too, my 18yo son took his car in and got failed on about 20 things.....came home i fixed most of them but did nothing about a few like exhaust noise...lowered shocks etc......I then took it back for the recheck and it passed everything...with the guy doing the re check wondering why some of the things were even failed in the first place....good for me but not the sort of consistant service you should get.
Ender EnZed
6th March 2010, 17:15
Avoid VTNZ, they reject cars to keep themselves busy and so they can feel important (self fulfilling industry). I've had similar issues with bearings, seatbelts, various lights etc
They failed my NZ new 1992 Kawasaki for having headlight glass for a LHD market.
blackdog
6th March 2010, 17:16
Avoid VTNZ, they reject cars to keep themselves busy and so they can feel important .
yup, sounds about right to me
blackdog
6th March 2010, 17:18
They failed my NZ new 1992 Kawasaki for having headlight glass for a LHD market.
aye??? i think someone bin drinking
i get my RHD headlights with my tartan paint
u should have just turned it upside down lol
PrincessBandit
6th March 2010, 17:20
Hey thanks for all the replies, I've enjoyed reading them all. (Even the suggestion to grow me pits - hahahaha had to do that for a while when my collarbone was first broken as I couldn't get the razor under there; was almost able to plait 'em! but that's probably too much information...)
I can see the point (seriously) where they might be afraid we'll drive the car into the pit. Apparently it has happened there before, with a woman driver, but before anyone jumps on the bandwagon a bloke has done it too. All I feel is that if the rule (their rule, up there in blue and white, big letters'n'all) everyone should follow it not just one portion of the community.
Btw, we generally only go to VTNZ 'cos it's close but only for the cars. We never get our bikes done there!!! Trust bike mechanics only with the 2wheeled preciouses.
Ender EnZed
6th March 2010, 17:31
aye??? i think someone bin drinking
i get my RHD headlights with my tartan paint
u should have just turned it upside down lol
It was much easier to just take it to a bike shop like I should've done to start with.
mynameis
6th March 2010, 18:46
Meeeh get over it, women drivers are more likely to drive off and drop the cars in. Good call. Get over it. B0o0o h0o0. Wirting a letter in.
Cr1MiNaL
6th March 2010, 19:08
Fucking rant... women make shit drivers - full stop. +1 VTNZ lol
oldrider
6th March 2010, 19:12
VTNZ are public servants and they are not employed or paid to think so it is impossible for them to move with the times unless instructed and pre-programmed to!
Even then it requires extensive training and reprogramming to get them to even absorb the new data, let alone action it!
You simply went to a VTNZ agency that was still running the old software in it's cyborgs!
You will probably find that the management is running on outdated software package too!
Conclusion: There is nothing wrong with you, suck it up and move on, even if you win, you will lose with these types! :brick:
Genie
6th March 2010, 19:14
This morning I took the car to VTNZ at Takanini for it's WoF. No worries, sitting in the queue waiting my turn, watching all the blokes being successively waved into the test area over the pit...
Then it was my turn. I was asked to get out of my car; I said nah, it's ok I'll do it. Oh dear. That was the wrong thing to say. I was told most definitely to get out of my car for him (tester) to drive in.
Hmmmm. Went inside and asked if it was their policy not to let women drive their vehicles in over the pit and was told - no, it's just that most women don't like to do it and let the male staff do it. Ok, off I go and ask the tester (after checking that my car had passed it's warrant of course) why I couldn't drive my car in despite at least 3 men having done it while I was there watching. He kept saying "no public allowed in there" over and over, even when I said "but male customers are doing it all the time".
Now, there IS a sign saying no access to members of the public in the area; I don't have an issue with that - all good for OSH and all that I assume. BUT (and it's a huge BUTT, i mean but) why are men allowed to break that rule. I mean to say the testers were actively waving the male drivers into the area whereas I was told in no uncertain terms to get out of my car!!!
I've emailed a letter to the station manager asking why there is this discrepancy (veiled "discrimination") against women drivers. If the rule is there, it's there for ALL motorists surely. I wait with bated breath as to what his response will be.
Grrrrrrrrrrrr.
Oh hunny, it's because you are a girl and the macho male needs the woman to be weak, useless and pathetic and any woman, such as yourself, that can do it...well you're just emanicpating the poor bloke and he can't handle it. He needed to feel 'big' and in order to feel that you needed to be small.
Try the other VTNZ next time...
YellowDog
6th March 2010, 19:47
I find the AA really good for car wofs plus you get free coffee and can logon to KB whilst you are waiting.
Genie
6th March 2010, 19:49
for those with an addiction to KB.....:innocent:
kb_SF1
6th March 2010, 20:15
If the reply from the VTNZ manager is unhelpful, ie full of B S you have the option contacting The Human Rights Commission ie discrimination or the Ministry of Womens Affairs you are being treated differently because you are a women, either will put the heat on them.
Or if you really want to watch them squirm write to both.
If you do take it futher please keep us up dated, it should get entertaining.
PrincessBandit
6th March 2010, 20:17
Meeeh get over it, women drivers are more likely to drive off and drop the cars in. Good call. Get over it. B0o0o h0o0. Wirting a letter in.
Just for you darl, ('cos I couldn't resist having a look at your post even tho you're on my ignore)::finger: - and suck on it baby.
jonbuoy
6th March 2010, 20:33
They failed my NZ new 1992 Kawasaki for having headlight glass for a LHD market.
They should have failed you the beam will shine onto the oncoming traffic instead of the verge, by law you have to have beam benders fitted if you take a LHD car from Europe into the UK.
PirateJafa
6th March 2010, 21:03
Oh hunny, it's because you are a girl and the macho male needs the woman to be weak, useless and pathetic and any woman, such as yourself, that can do it...well you're just emanicpating the poor bloke and he can't handle it. He needed to feel 'big' and in order to feel that you needed to be small.
If the reply from the VTNZ manager is unhelpful, ie full of B S you have the option contacting The Human Rights Commission ie discrimination or the Ministry of Womens Affairs you are being treated differently because you are a women, either will put the heat on them.
Or if you really want to watch them squirm write to both.
If you do take it futher please keep us up dated, it should get entertaining.
Crikey, you folks are real twats.
If I was a poor bloke working for two tenths of sweet-fuck-all at a VTNZ, I'd probably be doing pretty much exactly the same thing (also any elderly folks or anyone who looked uncertain) after having watched several disasters happen and then having to be the poor schmuck that has to drag the damn car back out.
Talk about a storm in a teacup - calm down and put aside those pitchforks you pillocks.
PrincessBandit
6th March 2010, 21:09
Crikey, you folks are real twats.
If I was a poor bloke working for two tenths of sweet-fuck-all at a VTNZ, I'd probably be doing pretty much exactly the same thing (also any elderly folks or anyone who looked uncertain) after having watched several disasters happen and then having to be the poor schmuck that has to drag the damn car back out.
Well in that case I'm sure you would be a wonderful employee and enforce the rules consistently, including the customers who have a penis.
PirateJafa
6th March 2010, 21:13
Btw, we generally only go to VTNZ 'cos it's close but only for the cars. We never get our bikes done there!!! Trust bike mechanics only with the 2wheeled preciouses.
I keep a close enough eye on my bikes that I don't have to wait six months to be told there is a potentially dangerous problem with one of them. But some of the most thorough warrent checks I have seen done on my bikes have been done at VTNZ's (Botany), as opposed to a couple done by some to remain unnamed "bike" mechanics where they've hardly glanced at 'em.
Judge a mechanic/WOFman by how well they do their job - not by the name on the top of the building.
Well in that case I'm sure you would be a wonderful employee and enforce the rules consistently, including the customers who have a penis.
Nah, I'd probably let everyone drive their own car on. I understand that Youtube has a unsatisfiable need for "epic fail" videos.
Tink
6th March 2010, 21:20
lol I have to say.. it happens to me too... TAKANINI... me thinks I don't want to do my restricted there... if they are biast against woman.... ! GO PB!
PrincessBandit
6th March 2010, 21:24
lol I have to say.. it happens to me too... TAKANINI... me thinks I don't want to do my restricted there... if they are biast against woman.... ! GO PB!
I sat R there and had no trouble whatsoever so don't be concerned on that front Kim. My gripe was specifically regarding the driving of cars into the pit area, not against the centre as a whole. Your riding is fine and you'll be sweet no matter where you sit it!
McDuck
6th March 2010, 21:58
When i got my first car (i has gotten my restricted the day before) It was nice little 82 Civic....
I took it in for a wof (didnt have one at the time i used the driving teachers car for the test) and came 25mm from putting the car in the pit, Given the tyres were only 30mm wide it was still close enough for me to (feel it happening) and shit myself. All good now but still dont like driving over the pit Lol
ajturbo
6th March 2010, 22:32
hey girls...
HTFU
Drew
6th March 2010, 22:47
Didn't read the whole thread, but has anyone suggested that the reason they let blokes drive in is a sympathetic mind to bruising their ego?
Occurs to me that some guys would take not being let to drive in as an implication they aren't up to it.
Pretty weak argument I know, but your gripe should have nothing to do with what gender you are, and to flat out say it was because you're a woman is leaping to a conclusion that has too many variables to decide.
He saw you drive up and didn't fancy your skills?
You're car has scuff marks on the tyres indicative of curb hopping while parking?
He might have, (right or wrongly) had those in mind for example.
Pussy
6th March 2010, 22:55
Didn't read the whole thread, but has anyone suggested that the reason they let blokes drive in is a sympathetic mind to bruising their ego?
Occurs to me that some guys would take not being let to drive in as an implication they aren't up to it.
Pretty weak argument I know, but your gripe should have nothing to do with what gender you are, and to flat out say it was because you're a woman is leaping to a conclusion that has too many variables to decide.
He saw you drive up and didn't fancy your skills?
You're car has scuff marks on the tyres indicative of curb hopping while parking?
He might have, (right or wrongly) had those in mind for example.
Or he just could be an arsewipe.....
Drew
7th March 2010, 00:04
Or he just could be an arsewipe.....
Yeah, but I do so enjoy being argumentative. If for no other reason than my own amusement.
MaxB
7th March 2010, 00:16
There is a point that has not been mentioned maybe?
VTNZs have lanes that you must leave the car/bike in and then you hand over the keys when you pay at the counter.
No member of the public is allowed in the testing area. If they let anyone drive onto the pit they are breaking their own rules. The only exceptions I have seen are for fleet or commercial users. Or professional drivers.
That doesn't excuse any rudeness, poor service etc. The customer is always right etc..
Mully
7th March 2010, 08:47
Given the tyres were only 30mm wide
What the hell were you driving with tyres that were 30mm wide? A 10 speed push bike?
caseye
7th March 2010, 10:52
Wow, instant experts, just add water and you get sticky SHIT!
For all of those guys who fail to see the plain truth, get a life.
Discrimination happens everywhere and if it's not pointed out soon enough we will all suffer more not less for it.
PB is quite right to ask why?
The answer might not be what she wanted to hear and it's patently wrong ( read their own rules) but at least she is doing something about it.
We can all beg to differ, we can all put forward funny anecdotes and tell her to HTFU but ultimately, everyone of us here know this is a wrong situation and we should all rdie on down there and give em shit for casting naspersitions upon one of our own! Even if it did occur while she was drinving her cage.
I'll tell you where to take the car and the bikes when I see you next PB.
p.dath
7th March 2010, 11:17
My local VTNZ does let customers drive in at all. Woman, Venusian, marsian, or otherwise. They always take the car from the "customer" area to the pit area and beyond.
Fatjim
7th March 2010, 12:35
I don't think this is sexist. I'm sure they're just as scared of asian drivers asell. They probably shit themselves just thinking about asian women drivers.
Fatjim
7th March 2010, 12:38
wow, instant experts, just add water and you get sticky shit!
For all of those guys who fail to see the plain truth, get a life.
Discrimination happens everywhere and if it's not pointed out soon enough we will all suffer more not less for it.
Pb is quite right to ask why?
The answer might not be what she wanted to hear and it's patently wrong ( read their own rules) but at least she is doing something about it.
We can all beg to differ, we can all put forward funny anecdotes and tell her to htfu but ultimately, everyone of us here know this is a wrong situation and we should all rdie on down there and give em shit for casting naspersitions upon one of our own! Even if it did occur while she was drinving her cage.
I'll tell you where to take the car and the bikes when i see you next pb.
htfu .
red mermaid
7th March 2010, 12:44
VTNZ staff are not public servants and haven't been for some considerable time.
As far as I know, VTNZ is currently owned by the Motor Trade Assn.
VTNZ are public servants and they are not employed or paid to think so it is impossible for them to move with the times unless instructed and pre-programmed to!
Even then it requires extensive training and reprogramming to get them to even absorb the new data, let alone action it!
You simply went to a VTNZ agency that was still running the old software in it's cyborgs!
You will probably find that the management is running on outdated software package too!
Conclusion: There is nothing wrong with you, suck it up and move on, even if you win, you will lose with these types! :brick:
mynameis
7th March 2010, 13:16
Just for you darl, ('cos I couldn't resist having a look at your post even tho you're on my ignore)::finger: - and suck on it baby.
:crybaby:
0oh the joys of urges aye. Such a hassle when people are in ignore. I am glad I managed to wind you up yet again. :lol:
Thank you very much please come back again.
Good call VTNZ +1 someone should write a letter and thank them for such sensible acts.
Who goes to VTNZ and pays $45 to $50 for WOF when there are people out there that do it for $30 and then writes and complains :laugh: Princess
Drew
7th March 2010, 16:20
Wow, instant experts, just add water and you get sticky SHIT!
For all of those guys who fail to see the plain truth, get a life.
Discrimination happens everywhere and if it's not pointed out soon enough we will all suffer more not less for it.
PB is quite right to ask why?
The answer might not be what she wanted to hear and it's patently wrong ( read their own rules) but at least she is doing something about it.
We can all beg to differ, we can all put forward funny anecdotes and tell her to HTFU but ultimately, everyone of us here know this is a wrong situation and we should all rdie on down there and give em shit for casting naspersitions upon one of our own! Even if it did occur while she was drinving her cage.
I'll tell you where to take the car and the bikes when I see you next PB.
Oh my god, lets all go protest out side. Better yet, lets lobby parliament and have the place shut down for discriminatory acts.
Are you fuckin retarded?
PB, I am sorry there are still biggoted people in the world. You are not young enough to be so naive as to not realise it however.
Your letter will surely get the people in trouble for letting drivers put their own car over the pit, but will result in no action what-so-ever regarding the sexism issue.
It's not really you carrying this thread on, but you did start it, and I cant help but wonder. To what end?
PrincessBandit
7th March 2010, 16:36
......
PB, I am sorry there are still biggoted people in the world. You are not young enough to be so naive as to not realise it however.
Your letter will surely get the people in trouble for letting drivers put their own car over the pit, but will result in no action what-so-ever regarding the sexism issue.
It's not really you carrying this thread on, but you did start it, and I cant help but wonder. To what end?
I would like to be able to drive my car into the pit area just like the menfolk, and not be refused because I don't have a willy. Would you like to be stopped from doing something you're perfectly capable of doing just 'cos you do have one (I assume you do).
I actually think it's quite an important issue that if something is such as safety issue, then why are some people allowed to ignore the rule while others have to obey it? It's a genuine question, and not aimed at shitstirring about gender. If commercial drivers are allowed to take their vehicles in through some allowance in the rules then all well and good, but I'd have a hard time believing that ALL the blokes I saw being able to happily ignore the sign were all in the "commercial' category...
caseye
7th March 2010, 17:15
Now wer'e cooking with gas! so I say we "should" and suddenly, I'm retarded.You do know that history repeats if you don't learn/drive home the lesson?
The dicks in these private establishments should do one or the other, not pick and choose.
Fatjim
7th March 2010, 20:03
Didn't read the whole thread, but has anyone suggested that the reason they let blokes drive in is a sympathetic mind to bruising their ego?
Occurs to me that some guys would take not being let to drive in as an implication they aren't up to it.
Thats very deep bro.
Fatjim
7th March 2010, 20:09
I would like to be able to drive my car into the pit area just like the menfolk, and not be refused because I don't have a willy. Would you like to be stopped from doing something you're perfectly capable of doing just 'cos you do have one (I assume you do).
.
Actually, I tried going for a swim at the local pool the other day and couldn't, cause it was ladies night.
BTW, I should have known when I pulled up. Not many of the cars in the pool carpark actualy were parked straight. Glad there wasn't any pits in sight, we'd have had a few tow trucks and cranes making some good money.
I get sick of girls bitching about being descriminated against when
a. They have ladies only triathlons, womens nights at the pool, gymnasiums etc.
b. Most of them can't drive properly anyway.
PrincessBandit
7th March 2010, 20:30
Actually, I tried going for a swim at the local pool the other day and couldn't, cause it was ladies night.
BTW, I should have known when I pulled up. Not many of the cars in the pool carpark actualy were parked straight. Glad there wasn't any pits in sight, we'd have had a few tow trucks and cranes making some good money.
I get sick of girls bitching about being descriminated against when
a. They have ladies only triathlons, womens nights at the pool, gymnasiums etc.
b. Most of them can't drive properly anyway.
Ladies nights only to stop the dirty old pervs getting their jollies.....:msn-wink:
Drew
7th March 2010, 21:33
Now wer'e cooking with gas! so I say we "should" and suddenly, I'm retarded.You do know that history repeats if you don't learn/drive home the lesson?
The dicks in these private establishments should do one or the other, not pick and choose.
History has repeated itself many times. Are you saying that we're back sliding and gonna take a womans right to vote away, or stop them entering bars, because a fuckin warrant tester didn't let this woman drive over the pit?
One set of rules, that's the only issue here I think. They are breaking the rules by letting the guy's drive in. NOT by stopping PB. Perhaps the boss showed up just as it was her turn and they started obeying the rule because of that.
Something else has just occurred to me though. PB, are you saying you WANT to break the rules too? Dangerous thing to say on here, what with all the fuckin hypocrits that make up the majority of KB.
FJRider
7th March 2010, 21:47
Is this just a case of a "MAN in charge" made a decision ... and a "WOMAN" did not like that decision ... ??? :dodge: :chase:
The guy making the decision would be the one cleaning up the mess (held responsible) if things turned pear shaped in the pit ... HIS choice ...
PrincessBandit
7th March 2010, 22:01
History has repeated itself many times. Are you saying that we're back sliding and gonna take a womans right to vote away, or stop them entering bars, because a fuckin warrant tester didn't let this woman drive over the pit?
One set of rules, that's the only issue here I think. They are breaking the rules by letting the guy's drive in. NOT by stopping PB. Perhaps the boss showed up just as it was her turn and they started obeying the rule because of that.
Something else has just occurred to me though. PB, are you saying you WANT to break the rules too? Dangerous thing to say on here, what with all the fuckin hypocrits that make up the majority of KB.
Hahaha, no. I'm not a little rebel really. Just thought it seemed odd that given the signage those packing a package behind their fly were able to blatantly disregard it.
Fatjim
8th March 2010, 14:23
Ladies nights only to stop the dirty old pervs getting their jollies.....:msn-wink:
Now there's a stereotype that is deserved.
Oscar
8th March 2010, 15:10
Actually, I tried going for a swim at the local pool the other day and couldn't, cause it was ladies night.
BTW, I should have known when I pulled up. Not many of the cars in the pool carpark actualy were parked straight. Glad there wasn't any pits in sight, we'd have had a few tow trucks and cranes making some good money.
I get sick of girls bitching about being descriminated against when
a. They have ladies only triathlons, womens nights at the pool, gymnasiums etc.
b. Most of them can't drive properly anyway.
Plus: Whaddaya reckon would happen, if on average, men lived longer than wimmin?
Commission of Enquiry and $$$'s spent to find the cause, with resulting media ads in English, Te Reo and Klingon...
However, as the average Doris lives about 4 years more, it's OK.
So in conclusion, I may get to drive over the VTNZ pit, but you get 4 years longer to whinge about it.
Oscar
8th March 2010, 15:12
Now there's a stereotype that is deserved.
Not deserved - earned, aspired to as a higher calling.
caseye
8th March 2010, 15:14
History has repeated itself many times. Are you saying that we're back sliding and gonna take a womans right to vote away, or stop them entering bars, because a fuckin warrant tester didn't let this woman drive over the pit?
One set of rules, that's the only issue here I think. They are breaking the rules by letting the guy's drive in. NOT by stopping PB. Perhaps the boss showed up just as it was her turn and they started obeying the rule because of that.
Something else has just occurred to me though. PB, are you saying you WANT to break the rules too? Dangerous thing to say on here, what with all the fuckin hypocrits that make up the majority of KB.
LOL perhaps the boss did show up at that time???
Be a damn shame if the boss was a girl! aye.
As for the hypo's on KB well thats another stereotype, that is hard to argue.
Not saying take anyones rights away, saying exactly what PB did in her first post here, One rule for all, or NOTHING,. Fair enough isn't it? As they are the ones with the signs saying, only staff to drive in the inspection area.
PrincessBandit
8th March 2010, 19:04
I did get a response from the station manager today. He acknowledged that his staff are not meant to allow anyone to drive into the area and he would speak to them about it.
If they get into trouble over it (I'm sure it'll only be a talk, I wouldn't expect anything drastic from it) then so be it for being lax on their work place regulations.
Overall I am happy that something which is in place to effectively keep a work area safe might be acted upon. ( Regardless of whether or not the resident bush lawyers here think it's relevant or important [see seated refuelling debate]).
Drew
8th March 2010, 19:50
LOL perhaps the boss did show up at that time???
Be a damn shame if the boss was a girl! aye.
As for the hypo's on KB well thats another stereotype, that is hard to argue.
Not saying take anyones rights away, saying exactly what PB did in her first post here, One rule for all, or NOTHING,. Fair enough isn't it? As they are the ones with the signs saying, only staff to drive in the inspection area.
Dont see how the gender of the boss enters into it.
One rule for all is what is meant to happen, I just think to that getting upset about something and posting it on KB is completely un productive. I've done it too, so I fit the KB stereo type.
Here's the thing about stereo types though, they are what they are for a reason. Like it or not. Men are more capable drivers, generally. We have more accidents though cos men are also more egotistical. There are more Maori on the unemployment benefit than Pakeha. The list goes on, with statistics that are not politically correct, but are still true.
DEATH_INC.
8th March 2010, 20:24
the moral of the story, find a nice little owner/operator mechanic in your area and i g'tee you he(or she :lol:) will look after you. they understand the value of repeat business
Yep, next time give me a call, I'm working back in Manukau again and we do wofs, for bikes too.
Pixie
9th March 2010, 07:43
Didn't read the whole thread, but has anyone suggested that the reason they let blokes drive in is a sympathetic mind to bruising their ego?
Occurs to me that some guys would take not being let to drive in as an implication they aren't up to it..
VTNZ staff should hug them and lead them by the hand to the VTNZ counselling dept.
Oscar
9th March 2010, 08:58
On a related note, I heard Teresa Gattung on the radio plugging her new book.
What I can't get over is the hypocrisy of some wimmin - one minute she's crapping on about how there is still sexism in the workplace and it's a hard row to hoe if yer a Doris, the next she's plugging her new book on the basis of her gender.
mynameis
9th March 2010, 16:20
:yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
The Pastor
9th March 2010, 16:32
this morning i took the car to vtnz at takanini for it's wof. No worries, sitting in the queue waiting my turn, watching all the blokes being successively waved into the test area over the pit...
Then it was my turn. I was asked to get out of my car; i said nah, it's ok i'll do it. Oh dear. That was the wrong thing to say. I was told most definitely to get out of my car for him (tester) to drive in.
Hmmmm. Went inside and asked if it was their policy not to let women drive their vehicles in over the pit and was told - no, it's just that most women don't like to do it and let the male staff do it. Ok, off i go and ask the tester (after checking that my car had passed it's warrant of course) why i couldn't drive my car in despite at least 3 men having done it while i was there watching. He kept saying "no public allowed in there" over and over, even when i said "but male customers are doing it all the time".
Now, there is a sign saying no access to members of the public in the area; i don't have an issue with that - all good for osh and all that i assume. But (and it's a huge butt, i mean but) why are men allowed to break that rule. I mean to say the testers were actively waving the male drivers into the area whereas i was told in no uncertain terms to get out of my car!!!
I've emailed a letter to the station manager asking why there is this discrepancy (veiled "discrimination") against women drivers. If the rule is there, it's there for all motorists surely. I wait with bated breath as to what his response will be.
Grrrrrrrrrrrr.
wtf u doing out of the kitchen?
PrincessBandit
9th March 2010, 19:11
wtf u doing out of the kitchen?
Saving mankind from being the recipients of my horrendous cooking experiments. Mwuhahahahaha
peasea
9th March 2010, 20:16
Sexism, nothing wrong with it, if you're a bloke.
mynameis
9th March 2010, 22:52
wtf u doing out of the kitchen?
Bahahahahahahahah :lol: :lol:
You have given out too much rep in the last 24 hours.
Indiana_Jones
9th March 2010, 23:13
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Again.
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-Indy
Boob Johnson
10th March 2010, 02:09
I thought it was illegal for women to drive?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w
PS: All women need to watch the above :innocent:
PPS: baaa ha ha ha, I see ive been beaten to it :laugh:
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