Is this true? Someone please explain!

[aprilia_RS250]

Met up with a girl few nights ago for dinner. Everything was going well, we talked about interesting things she looked extremely hot food was good etc. After we were done she offered to drive me home (as I only have a bike:scooter:). We decided to grab some Movenpick ice cream on the way back at Mission Bay.

So while eating our ice creams somehow she starts talking about how her friend has recently got engaged and how her man got her an awesome engagement ring that she's been blinging it around. Then she tells me she has her engagement ring all sorted out as well, gets her phone out and pow starts showing me pictures of a rock that would make even Micheal Hill sweat.:blink: Tells me the MAN needs to spend at least 10% of his annual income on the ring.:gob: I shat my self when she said that. I politely asked before or after tax?? She looked at me like she was annoyed by that question and confirmed it should be before tax. 15min later I was in bed, by myself.:sleep:

I'm 24, I've never heard of this before. Neither have my male friends, however it's a 50/50 split between the female ones where they said the man needs to spend a large sum on the engagement ring to make it special. Is this really true??

[Mully]

IIRC, it's traditionally two months salary.

Want my advice? Run far, far away from this girl.

Far away.

[GOONR]

I've heard this before... Strangely only from women though :confused:

[The Pastor]

Well if im prepared to drop 2k on an exhaust and 1k on some mirrors spending a bit on an engagement ring isn't really a hard ask is it?

[Spyke]

Just a sign of things to come man,
Honey do you know what day it is? Uuuuuuummmmmmm thursday? NO STUPID ITS OUR 3 MONTH ANNIRVESARY.

stuff buying worthless crap that means nothing for stupid dates of the year.

[T.W.R]

S.W.F :crazy::chase:

[Grasshopperus]

Yeah, that's the tradition, 10% or 2 months pay or something like that.

Question; you haven't been seeing this girl too long eh? Hmmmm she's not too subltle.

I told my missus that I'd rather spend $$ on something useful like a house and she agreed. So today she's got a plain white gold wedding ring, NO engagement ring, and a house. Can't shelter under a ring mate (of course, she'll want to get pregnant faster if she's got a house :shit: )

[Bassmatt]

Apparentley in Japan the traditional amount is 1/3 of your annual income! Do you think a women would spend that on your engagement ring? Just another sad sign of our consumerist society I'm afraid. No wonder marriages dont last anymore if that is the criteria for choosing a partner.
Bloody stupid in this day and age when most young couples are struggling to come up with a deposit for a house etc.

[Fooman]

It's an old DeBeers marketing ploy to try and get desperate men to transfer money from their wallets into those of diamond merchants and thence DeBeers (historically the monopoly supplier of gem-quality diamonds). Along the lines of "Diamonds are forever".

See: http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/

Epstein did a good article in the Atlantic magazine in 1982 that is available online that discusses the various marketing ploys that DeBeers used to convince people that diamonds actually had value outside industry.

FM

[Swoop]

Bollocks. The other way around.
The girl has to buy the bloke a new bike, worth AT LEAST 7k. (Suzuki's don't count since they will not last).


Yup, you read it here first!

[SPORK]

See they think we narrow minded
Cause they got a cute face, and big-behinded
So I walk over and say "How ya doin?"
See I'm only down for screwin, but you know
ya gotta play it off cool
Cause if they catch you slippin, you'll get schooled
And they'll get you for your money, son
Next thing you know you're gettin their hair and they nails done
Fool, and they'll let you show em off
But when it comes to sex, they got a bad cough
Or a headache, it's all give and no take
Run out of money, and watch your heart break
They'll drop you like a bad habit
cause a brother with money yo, they gotta have it
Messin with me though, they gets none
You can't juice Ice Cube girl, cause I ain't the one

[slofox]

Huh! I'd tell her to get fucked actually...bloody grasping greed...

[sinfull]

(before sex)
Yeah baby, you know i'd be more than happy to spend that much on you !
(after sex)
If i had an income ! Bye

[Fooman]

Other article is at:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/02/have-you-ever-tried-to-sell-a-diamond/4575/

[Slyer]

I'll never understand why women want jewelry. How is that going to help them make me a sandwich?
I think a cake mixer or vacuum cleaner would be a better engagement gift.

[Dodgy1]

Huh! I'd tell her to get fucked actually...bloody grasping greed...

lol..I'd tell her to get fucked whilst running in the oposite direction..lol

[Headbanger]

LMFAO.

I paid about a half a weeks wages for the wifes engagement ring, The ring is a symbol ffs, Its value isn't in the amount of stones on it.

I would have laughed in the face of that silly cow, and then exited stage left.

[aprilia_RS250]

One of my flat mates put it down as follows "women are keen to get married because they get a 10% deposit at start up and then guaranteed 50% at maturity if all else fails". Totally puts me off the whole idea of marriage. Not gonna see that girl again. Rather spend the money on an investment/house.

[EJK]

Nuttn wrong with a wedding ring.

[Mully]

(Suzuki's don't count since they will not last).


You know, I'm getting pretty sick of you ragging on Suzukis, young man.

[Stirts]

At first I thought she was an utter nut bar!! But I have to admit she is farken clever if you ask me! I would never have thought of bringing up the whole engagement ring costs, ring already picked out, here is the photo scenario to get out of a second date. :shifty:

[Number One]

She sounds like a shallow mole - best avoided me thinks ;) Especially if she has that view and approach in life at her age (assuming she is around your age).

[Number One]

At first I thought she was an utter nut bar!! But I have to admit she is farken clever if you ask me! I would never have thought of bringing up the whole engagement ring costs, ring already picked out, here is the photo scenario to get out of a second date. :shifty:

:lol: yeah perhaps she actually just WASN'T THAT INTO YOU :lol:

Still avoid avoid I'd say

BTW - why is this in General Bike ravings? Unless of course that girl is the town bike of course :lol:

[avgas]

Perception is a mother fucker here.
My recommendation is buy here a "friendship" ring from trademe - one of those CZ $1 ones.
Says its 0.5ct diamond and that you love her heaps.
Get laid and moved on to another foolish girl.
Total cost $1 ring and $0.5 postage.
Silly girl won't know what hit her.

[aprilia_RS250]

At first I thought she was an utter nut bar!! But I have to admit she is farken clever if you ask me! I would never have thought of bringing up the whole engagement ring costs, ring already picked out, here is the photo scenario to get out of a second date. :shifty:

I hope that's the case, really really do!!!

[Headbanger]

Shes probally into anyone with enough coin and cunt struck enough to spend it all on her, I'm sure she was laying down the fact so she didn't have her time wasted by someone who wasn't flush with cash, or prepared to spend up big on her.

Either way it will end badly unless your rich enough to feed her as much money as she can spend for life, or she would just trade-up to a richer guy.

[aprilia_RS250]

Ha just a text from her this asking what I'm up to tonight and why I've been ignoring her. What should I reply???!

[EJK]

Say you want sex.

No doubt.
No dragging.
Straight to the point.
Clean point, eliminate complication and confusion.

[aprilia_RS250]

Say you want sex.

No doubt.
No dragging.
Straight to the point.
Clean point, eliminate complication and confusion.

Can't say that, she has some good looking mates who might not be as shallow as she is. She could give me a bad rep with her whole crew.

[Genie]

hell man, what sort of crazy is this women, one date and she talks engagement, is she into collecting rings? Holy hell, that is so scarey. Lucky break for you and being hot is one thing but you've got to have the personality to go with it

[Murray]

Who paid for the dinner???

[EJK]

Can't say that, she has some good looking mates who might not be as shallow as she is. She could give me a bad rep with her whole crew.

If so, then...

you know what, good luck.

[Stirts]

I hope that's the case, really really do!!!

:rofl: Nah, to be honest she sounds far too stoopid to come up with a trick like that. She obviously is stoopid, we motorcyclist like to spend vast amounts of money on motorcycles not rings and the like.

EDIT: just saw your post re: second date. Damn!

I have one word for you ......




RUN!

[Number One]

:RUN!

What she said though I can't help but suggest you text back that you aren't interested in 'gold digging hoes'!

[mashman]

Can't say that, she has some good looking mates who might not be as shallow as she is. She could give me a bad rep with her whole crew.

Reply... you showed me the ring you wanted on your phone... now show me the ring I want on my phone...

[Stirts]

Reply... you showed me the ring you wanted on your phone... now show me the ring I want on my phone...

That gets my vote. Dare ya Mr Aprilia_RS250

[Tank]

quit your job and go on WINZ benefit. - then you only have to spend something like $12 on the ring to meet the 'traditional' requirements. Then - go get your old job back. Simple. Everyones a winner.


BTW - The warning signs are there now - dont come back crying if you ignore them and it all goes horribly (and expensively) wrong.

[Number One]

That gets my vote. Dare ya Mr Aprilia_RS250

:lol: I double dare ya!

[Slyer]

We need pics to gauge if she is worth it.

[EJK]

We need pics to gauge if she is worth it.

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[MisterD]

Then she tells me she has her engagement ring all sorted out as well, gets her phone out and pow starts showing me pictures of a rock that would make even Micheal Hill sweat.:blink:

Traditionally the bloke's supposed to go out and buy the ring without her bloody knowledge...how else are you supposed to have it on hand when you "pop the question"?

It always f-ing confuses me when people say "We're getting engaged in x months" and go shopping for the ring together. At that point, you've agreed to that you're getting married and therefore you are already engaged. No? /pedant.

***edit***

Try telling her that if you spent that much, you'd need a pre-nup which stipulated return of the ring or equivalent cash value...

[aprilia_RS250]

Who paid for the dinner???

I did............

[Laava]

She is obviously very modern to have such new-fangled ideas. Go the old fashioned route where YOU are the winner and get paid a handsome dowry! I got a concrete mixer with my woman! AND she knows how to use it!

[aprilia_RS250]

Traditionally the bloke's supposed to go out and buy the ring without her bloody knowledge...how else are you supposed to have it on hand when you "pop the question"?

It always f-ing confuses me when people say "We're getting engaged in x months" and go shopping for the ring together. At that point, you've agreed to that you're getting married and therefore you are already engaged. No? /pedant.

***edit***

Try telling her that if you spent that much, you'd need a pre-nup which stipulated return of the ring or equivalent cash value...

Pre nup!!! How do you sell one of those to a woman?

[pzkpfw]

Show her pictures of babies. Lots, like a Mormon family or something.

[Stirts]

Show her pictures of babies. Lots, like a Mormon family or something.

Oooooer the possibility that this could come back and bite Mr Aprilla_RS250 in the arse is way too high - she is a nut bar remember. She probably has her wedding day all planned out, a photo of the dress even, and a shortlist of girls and boys names for the little mini nut bars she wants to pop out.

[Number One]

*shudder*........

[scissorhands]

I could have been one
And I could have been free
But nature played this trick on me
She wants it now and she will not wait
But she's so rough
And I'm so delicate

[aprilia_RS250]

Just got a reply back... "you're a bastard". Silence is the best medication sometimes.

[Number One]

BUT what did you say - which of the one liners did you use?! Pray do tell Mwahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[pzkpfw]

Just got a reply back... "you're a bastard". Silence is the best medication sometimes.

So your dad didn't want to buy a ring either?


(um, wink smiley goes here)

[Slyer]

What's her number?
Tell her you've changed phone numbers. Someone else can take it from here. ;)

[avgas]

Just got a reply back... "you're a bastard". Silence is the best medication sometimes.
Hang on, she replied cos you said you wanted to see here ring.......or because you did nothing.
If its the latter you are a bastard - you could have least said "Wanna shag?"

[vifferman]

Hmmmmmm....
It depends, dunnit?
When I got engaged, I was a student, with no money, so I cashed in my insurance policy to buy a modest ring, which we picked together. For our 25th Weeeding Anniverserarary, we had a new one made, incorporating the pathetic little diamonds from the old one plus a much bigger sparkler (a near flawless one). The cost was actually not insignificant, and around 100 times what the first one cost. However (but!) compared to my salary (and the vifferbabe earns twiuce what I do, so she effectively paid for it anyway), it was less than one month of my salary, after tax.

[mashman]

Just got a reply back... "you're a bastard". Silence is the best medication sometimes.

:corn::corn::corn: .........

[Little Miss Trouble]

Pre nup!!! How do you sell one of those to a woman?

You start by picking a woman who isn't looking for a free ride in the first place.

[mashman]

You start by picking a woman who isn't looking for a free ride in the first place.

WRONG!!!!!!!! much easier to dump... :shifty:

[Gone Burger]

Wowie - she sure does sound crazy. After a few years I could perhaps understand it a little better, but dude, that's a sure sign she is going to be high mantinence from day one.

As for the price of a ring, it should be what someone can afford at the time, without getting into masses of debt! Some cheaper rings can be really lovely too, but a lot of girls out there have a "figure" in their head of that it should cost. I've been with my man for 7 years now, and aint seen no ring. But it I was, I would hope it was at least not a burger ring, or beer an tab. Guess I'll be waiting just that wee bit longer (like another 10 years) :)

[Little Miss Trouble]

WRONG!!!!!!!! much easier to dump... :shifty:

Goes both ways love.

[aprilia_RS250]

BUT what did you say - which of the one liners did you use?! Pray do tell Mwahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Shit no. Don't wona see her or shag her. You never shag a nutter, ever!

She called me while I was at work and asked me why I was being so weird that night, I was doing the old "can we talk about it later" blah blah blah.

Anyway I just couldn't be bothered talking to her anymore 'cos I felt this conversation was going to take hours unless I subdued and agreed to see her tonight. I just simply interupted and told her to stop calling me and texting etc. She went "what!" I said "sorry I'm gonna hang up", hung up. Phone rang a few more times, I diverted then got the"you're a bastard" text. Nothing exciting really. If I did send her "show me your ring" text i'd be a dead man walking.

[Number One]

a lot of girls out there have a "figure" in their head of that it should cost.

Yeah freakish eh? I never got that....seemed most of 'those' girls justified it with "because I'm worth it" - Loreal as a lot to answer for!!

I actually had a figure in mind that I didn't want it cost more than...pretty low it were too. Feck it's just a bloody piece of finger jewellery after all.

[Number One]

Geeze boy - where's ya spine?! She was the cock in this situation - not you and now YOU are the one that looks like the complete cunt. Harden up young fella or girls like that will chew you up and spit you out all for the apparent benefit of a few shags or Bjs. :lol: No huge conversation involved in - you weirded me out with your ring obsession and came off like high maintenance biarch that I don't have the time or energy for...simple really :yes:

[mashman]

Goes both ways love.

:laugh: Aye, that it does... I certainly never learned it from a fella...

[avgas]

You never shag a nutter, ever!
Sure you do. You just never do it at your place......using your real name

[Grumpy]

Shit ...... I better not let the missus read this thread. She'll think she was ripped off. :shifty:

[Mully]

I think I'm onto a winner with Mrs Mully.

Luckily I married her so she can't get away.

[Number One]

I think I'm onto a winner with Mrs Mully.

Luckily I married her so she can't get away.

Don't be tooo sure....does she introduce you as her 'current' husband :lol: If NOT then you are probably fine...for now....mwahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[gwigs]

Sounds like a lucky escape to me,besides your too young to be getting hitched.There are many women to shag before you settle down.
Fill your boots Son..:devil2:

[SPman]

I'll never understand why women want jewelry. How is that going to help them make me a sandwich?
I think a cake mixer or vacuum cleaner would be a better engagement gift.
A frypan to cook me some eggs........

[Toaster]

Tradition is bollocks. Just give her a burger ring and tell her to suck it until it fits.

[SPman]

Shit ...... I better not let the missus read this thread. She'll think she was ripped off. :shifty: Jeez Mark - doesn't a honeymoon in the islands, count for anything, these days....

[SPORK]

You know, they really need to bring back the concept of dowry. Fuck knows I'd love to marry into property and serfs.

Hmm, maybe it's the same deal if you can snag a property investor's daughter. Excuse me, I'll be down at the Viaduct looking for spray tans.

[Gone Burger]

Tradition is bollocks. Just give her a burger ring and tell her to suck it until it fits.

ANYTHING but the burger ring or beer can tab. Hell, even a key chain ring is one up on that. Could even make it a "corn crunchie" from Cobb 'n Co. You are all class Toaster, how many burger rings did you have to give your wife before an upgrade? ;)

[Mully]

Don't be tooo sure....does she introduce you as her 'current' husband :lol: If NOT then you are probably fine...for now....mwahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I got told off for introducing her as my "first wife".....

[Toaster]

ANYTHING but the burger ring or beer can tab. Hell, even a key chain ring is one up on that. Could even make it a "corn crunchie" from Cobb 'n Co. You are all class Toaster, how many burger rings did you have to give your wife before an upgrade? ;)

I had just graduated from Otago University and gave her a $3k diamond solitarie ring back in 1996.... she lent me the money to pay the bill!!

[meteor]

Yea ok so I know I'm going to get caned for this but...
That word traditionally... begs the question if a girl wants to be treated 'traditionally' then she should be acting 'traditionally'. If she want's to be a modern woman in all other ways then 'traditional' doesn't stack up!
Modern women are assuming all of the traditionally 'male' roles and duties so why do some males now think they should hold onto traditional values? And since when did any woman worth your respect and love put a dollar value on your commitment.... my vote... tell her to walk!

[Gone Burger]

I had just graduated from Otago University and gave her a $3k diamond solitarie ring back in 1996.... she lent me the money to pay the bill!!

Way to go Toaster - she sounds golden, and like a true keeper. Go wifey!

[Toaster]

Way to go Toaster - she sounds golden, and like a true keeper. Go wifey!

With all the ups and down we have had, she sure is. Absolute stalwart that lady.

[kwaka_crasher]

I think the OP is lucky he found out she's just a materialistic whore so early in the piece.

[spajohn]

Just got a reply back... "you're a bastard". Silence is the best medication sometimes.

Can you say "high maintenance"?

'Nuff said.

[spajohn]

Pre nup!!! How do you sell one of those to a woman?

Easy! Pre-nup or else!

Better yet, show her a photo of one on your phone.

[PrincessBandit]

I'll never understand why women want jewelry. How is that going to help them make me a sandwich?
I think a cake mixer or vacuum cleaner would be a better engagement gift.

Roflmao! Funnily enough, the older I've gotten the less jewellery I wear - wedding, engagement and eternity rings; watch. often not even a necklace. It's not like I don't own enough jewellery, but seriously I just don't ever seem to wear it! Maybe when you're young it's super exciting and you can't get enough of it. I've known of girls to serially get engaged simply to get their mits on a nice rock. Never really understood it myself.
Although I'd have hit Balu over the head if he'd given me a microwave for our engagement. (Oh, I don't think they were around back then.....)

[Murray]

Pre nup!!! How do you sell one of those to a woman?

easy, find a woman who has more money than you!

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[kwaka_crasher]

Just got a reply back... "you're a bastard". Silence is the best medication sometimes.

At least she has fairly good spelling and grammar. For a bunny boiler.

[Tink]

Roflmao! Funnily enough, the older I've gotten the less jewellery I wear - wedding, engagement and eternity rings; watch. often not even a necklace. It's not like I don't own enough jewellery, but seriously I just don't ever seem to wear it! Maybe when you're young it's super exciting and you can't get enough of it. I've known of girls to serially get engaged simply to get their mits on a nice rock. Never really understood it myself.
Although I'd have hit Balu over the head if he'd given me a microwave for our engagement. (Oh, I don't think they were around back then.....)

Heh... I love my jewellery... silver and under $50 a piece or less... hate dimonds or anything that blings.... and ye a microwave would be nice lol ;)... but I love the simple stuff first.... mind you ya gotta reciprocate eh PB :)

[Swoop]

You know, I'm getting pretty sick of you ragging on Suzukis, young man.
I bet there aren't many conversations that start "let's talk about your vintage suzuki gsxr...":shifty:

Try telling her that if you spent that much, you'd need a pre-nup which stipulated return of the ring or equivalent cash value...
Return of a used, second-hand ring!!?? Devaluation at work there somewhere, I'm sure!

[mynameis]

Shilly boy you should have kept her hopes high and played her :D

If she's too annoying use a duct tape :lol:

Tapin' and gapin'

[ynot slow]

First ring cost me $250(weekly wage similar)but then 14yrs later the best part of $100,000 and 10yrs child support of $3500 roughly pa.

Second ring cost $180(after 4 days with her)and from a second hand store(valued at over $2000),but allowed a bike lol.

[Woodman]

Ha just a text from her this asking what I'm up to tonight and why I've been ignoring her. What should I reply???!

Send her a link to this thread.

[SPman]

I got told off for introducing her as my "first wife".....
My first wife used to introduce me as "my first husband" .................

[oldrider]

Met up with a girl few nights ago for dinner. Everything was going well, we talked about interesting things she looked extremely hot food was good etc. After we were done she offered to drive me home (as I only have a bike:scooter:). We decided to grab some Movenpick ice cream on the way back at Mission Bay.

So while eating our ice creams somehow she starts talking about how her friend has recently got engaged and how her man got her an awesome engagement ring that she's been blinging it around. Then she tells me she has her engagement ring all sorted out as well, gets her phone out and pow starts showing me pictures of a rock that would make even Micheal Hill sweat.:blink: Tells me the MAN needs to spend at least 10% of his annual income on the ring.:gob: I shat my self when she said that. I politely asked before or after tax?? She looked at me like she was annoyed by that question and confirmed it should be before tax. 15min later I was in bed, by myself.:sleep:

I'm 24, I've never heard of this before. Neither have my male friends, however it's a 50/50 split between the female ones where they said the man needs to spend a large sum on the engagement ring to make it special.
Is this really true??

Only if you listen and make it happen for her! Then it will be! :yes: .. :shifty:

[wickle]

read this whole thread and it being a Motorcycle site I'm disappionted that nobody reminded the lad that he wouldn;t spend that sort of money on a bike before first having a test Ride.

[crazyhorse]

That is fuckin unbelieveable..... run ! Maybe she has a father who keeps her in a life style and has been brought up to expect that the bloke will too......... not for me! girls like that make me sick. Plenty more in the sea

[YellowDog]

I'm 24, I've never heard of this before. Neither have my male friends, however it's a 50/50 split between the female ones where they said the man needs to spend a large sum on the engagement ring to make it special. Is this really true??

Mate, you're just a kid and have lots to learn.

That was just one of many..........

Warn all your mates to steer well clear!

[Love my Bonnie]

RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN BOY!!!!!!!:scooter:

[Woodman]

Their legs are often open, but their minds are always closed and their hearts are held in fast suburban chains

Jimmy barnes

[oldrider]

Run run run as fast as you can, (and tell her) you'll never catch me, I'm a ginger minge man! :bleh:

[Berries]

Fuck the engagement ring for a start, I have never seen the point. If you decide to get married then set a date and get married. All this arsing about, FFS, just do it.

As for the bird in question, well, she is not saying you have to get engaged right now is she, just that if you do you will have to spend a wad on the ring. Well, if you get together, which I seriously doubt after reading all this, there are only two outcomes. Either it won't work and it'll finish or it will work and it will keep going. So then you are in the driving seat. Don't agree to the ring idea, which is bollocks, and she'll either chuck you, which would prove what a low life money grabbing bitch she is, or she'll change her mind and love you for ever and ever.

Then again, if she's fit I'd just lie to her.

[Ratti]

hmmm...I've been married twice now. First was to a f***wit who turned out to be a wife beater, child beater, rapist and Kid fu**er..for which he did time..twice...I had to pay for our wedding rings, very cheap as we had no cash. Then I had to pay the 20 grand plus in accrued debts that he didnt have to pay while he was in jail. And since then I have paid everything for the upbringing of the two kids we produced. Expensive rings...

second marriage, he insisted he wanted to have a ring made for me as I am an artist and knew exactly what I wanted. gulp...5000 dollars later we rock on out with a beautiful ring i adore. He was happy to pay as he said I was worth way more than anything money could buy and the ring was only a token of how much he loved me.
As things turned out, its all Im going to have left of him. But you know what? Its not the ring really, its the fact that he valued me so much that he thought I was worth it.

something to think about guys.

[fire eyes]

Roflmao! Funnily enough, the older I've gotten the less jewellery I wear - wedding, engagement and eternity rings; watch. often not even a necklace. It's not like I don't own enough jewellery, but seriously I just don't ever seem to wear it! Maybe when you're young it's super exciting and you can't get enough of it. I've known of girls to serially get engaged simply to get their mits on a nice rock. Never really understood it myself.
Although I'd have hit Balu over the head if he'd given me a microwave for our engagement. (Oh, I don't think they were around back then.....)

I dunno if its an age thing! Iv never been a huge fan of jewellery .. I never had an engagement ring, did have a wedding ring, much prefer tatts now LOL .. I think it just depends on the girl & preferences do change I agree.

She's got balls putting it out there on a first date .. hell least shes straight up .. a bit odd but straight up lol

[aprilia_RS250]

I've read some of your posts and appreciate the humor. Although I could never say any of that to her. I find it sad how fixiated she is on something that is little and materialistic. She didn't seem to have any big dreams, goals and aspirations. She had no clue what she wanted to do apart from travel (which fuck loads of women I met have as one of their top priorities).

Anyway the search continues for that hot knee sliding leather wearing hot ass genuine personality and straight up biker chick that can cook.

[Sharry]

I've had an engagement ring and a wedding ring, neither made the arrangement work. Mind you he sent me off to the jewelers with a blank sighned check.....just to show how much thought went into it.

More important than jewelry is what you put into the relationship. If she thinks the size of the stone you are prepared to fork out for determins your worth then run like mad and don't look back lad.

[avgas]

Simple introduce yourself as Buck.

























And you like to fuck.

[cc rider]

Anyway the search continues for that hot knee sliding leather wearing hot ass genuine personality and straight up biker chick that can cook.Oops! ...and after that comment... you is still gonna be single, lilttle one :spanking:





ps - who can cook

[riffer]

Oops! ...and after that comment... you is still gonna be single, lilttle one :spanking:


Why? Sounds like a pretty damn good aspiration to me... as good as a reliable, kid and animal-loving knee sliding leather wearing six-packed genuine personality and straight up biker guy who can clean.

[Owl]

Shit, I'd wanna root before splashing out on Movenpick!:mellow:

[Pegasus]

:rofl: Well you have given me a good laugh to start my day. I am guessing she is not your sort? :crazy:

A little feed back may have helped her though rather than silence. It is possible that she is just soooo immature/naive, that she didn't get that her materialistic attitude will scare away any decent guy.

[Fatjim]

Mate, you missed out on a wild ride there. If you go in with a "don't care" attitude a crazy bitch can be a lot of fun.

BTW, you both seem fixated on the ring thing as much as each other. If you'd let it slide, you'd have been better off.

If you've no intention of getting married, don't get emotional over them. One day, you might meet a woman who is your "soul mate", and if she feels the same then get married. But don't get hooked on every bit of crumpet that comes your way. They aren't.

[Skyryder]

Its the age of equality.......................make her pay..................half.



Skyryder

[paulmac]

I thought this thread was a wind up !!!
You must be a young metro-sexual dorklander mate !!
At first mention of a ring on a first date you should have had the balls to tell her to fuck off to her face. Not hide behind text bloody messaging !!!

[cave weta]

Anyway the search continues for that hot knee sliding leather wearing hot ass genuine personality and straight up biker chick that can cook.

They are out there- they are indeed out there- mine arrives on the 11th of next month....

[aprilia_RS250]

Mate, you missed out on a wild ride there. If you go in with a "don't care" attitude a crazy bitch can be a lot of fun.

BTW, you both seem fixated on the ring thing as much as each other. If you'd let it slide, you'd have been better off.

I never have a "don't care" attitude when it comes to money.

[Mudfart]

dude you tell her she has to pass your keeper tests before you ever gonna ask a girl to marry you.
First test: she must do A 2 M.
If you spend money on a shallow female dropkick, your a chump.

[aprilia_RS250]

dude you tell her she has to pass your keeper tests before you ever gonna ask a girl to marry you.
First test: she must do A 2 M.
If you spend money on a shallow female dropkick, your a chump.

Shit! I'll never meet one then!

[PirateJafa]

Anyway the search continues for that hot knee sliding leather wearing hot ass genuine personality and straight up biker chick that can cook.

Sorry, but Thani's already mine. :rofl:

[Slyer]

You forgot "wears funny hats" and "pwns at roller coaster tycoon". ;)

[pzkpfw]

They are out there- they are indeed out there- mine arrives on the 11th of next month....

Be careful, mail order doesn't always match the description.

[Love my Bonnie]

a reliable, kid and animal-loving knee sliding leather wearing six-packed genuine personality and straight up biker guy who can clean.

Sounds like the perfect man to me, but where do I find such an elusive creature?

[cave weta]

Be careful, mail order doesn't always match the description.
She tells me that she has soft lips and nice hair, she doesnt take up much space and she can't wait to get out on a bike and get dirty with me!
You will piss yourself when you find out who it is!

[Insanity_rules]

Shes probally into anyone with enough coin and cunt struck enough to spend it all on her, I'm sure she was laying down the fact so she didn't have her time wasted by someone who wasn't flush with cash, or prepared to spend up big on her.

So you aint sayin shes a gold digger, but she aint messin with no broke? Dude if I were you I'd lay down the law and train her early! She'd have to be not only good in bed but enormously kinky for you to put up with that!

[cold comfort]

It's an old DeBeers marketing ploy to try and get desperate men to transfer money from their wallets into those of diamond merchants and thence DeBeers (historically the monopoly supplier of gem-quality diamonds). Along the lines of "Diamonds are forever".

See: http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/

Epstein did a good article in the Atlantic magazine in 1982 that is available online that discusses the various marketing ploys that DeBeers used to convince people that diamonds actually had value outside industry.

FM

Fortunately my wife (who has a commerce and marketing degree) shares my intense dislike of the De Beers control and artificial overvaluing of the diamond market. She is not averse to the odd bit of well timed hand made jewelery for all that-just the rip-off diamond con.

[kwaka_crasher]

Fortunately my wife (who has a commerce and marketing degree) shares my intense dislike of the De Beers control and artificial overvaluing of the diamond market. She is not averse to the odd bit of well timed hand made jewelery for all that-just the rip-off diamond con.

My problem with this angle is nobody NEEDS to buy fucking diamonds.

[Slyer]

You NEED diamonds to cut and sharpen certain objects.

[kwaka_crasher]

They have industrial 'diamonds' for that which are mostly synthetic.

[Slyer]

Same thing

[kwaka_crasher]

Same thing

Not at all. The technology is available to all, not just those who have mining rights.

[golfmade]

Never got my wife an engagement ring, she didn't want or see the need for one. As for the wedding rings we got them custom made by a local Idaho jeweler.

[aprilia_RS250]

HERE IS A DECENT ONE!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-aaC9fxrQ8

[Slyer]

Has nobody told her to never use an adjustable spanner?! What was she planning to do with it anyway?

[scumdog]

So what is this 'engagement ring' thing that is being mentioned here???:scratch::o:whistle:

[gilly]

We were broke when we married, so I got a fridge instead of an engagement ring.
26 years later.
Still got the fridge (it holds the beer), still got the husband (he drinks the beer),
Never got the diamond - but - got a beautiful sparkly pearl white Honda Shadow.
Who needs a stupid ring?

[peasea]

We were broke when we married, so I got a fridge instead of an engagement ring.
26 years later.
Still got the fridge (it holds the beer), still got the husband (he drinks the beer),
Never got the diamond - but - got a beautiful sparkly pearl white Honda Shadow.
Who needs a stupid ring?

No wonder you're married.

Oh hang on, you said Honda, shoulda said "it's a wonder you're married."

[SMOKEU]

Sweet, that means I don't have to spend any money on a ring because I don't have a job. Awesome!

[cc rider]

Sweet, that means I don't have to spend any money on a ring because I don't have a job. Awesome!and when I count to 3, you can wake up... 1... 2... 3 :confused:

Was 21 years with a jeweller & silver/goldsmith... got nada, but learnt to buy rocks & produce my own stuff :Punk:

I would think a ring would just get in the way when changing the drive chain, unless it's an O-ring :killingme

[gammaguy]

Met up with a girl few nights ago for dinner. Everything was going well, we talked about interesting things she looked extremely hot food was good etc. After we were done she offered to drive me home (as I only have a bike:scooter:). We decided to grab some Movenpick ice cream on the way back at Mission Bay.

So while eating our ice creams somehow she starts talking about how her friend has recently got engaged and how her man got her an awesome engagement ring that she's been blinging it around. Then she tells me she has her engagement ring all sorted out as well, gets her phone out and pow starts showing me pictures of a rock that would make even Micheal Hill sweat.:blink: Tells me the MAN needs to spend at least 10% of his annual income on the ring.:gob: I shat my self when she said that. I politely asked before or after tax?? She looked at me like she was annoyed by that question and confirmed it should be before tax. 15min later I was in bed, by myself.:sleep:

I'm 24, I've never heard of this before. Neither have my male friends, however it's a 50/50 split between the female ones where they said the man needs to spend a large sum on the engagement ring to make it special. Is this really true??

trust me on this one

if she loves you enough to marry you and make it last,she wont give a rats arse about the ring.

if the ring is the thing,she aint worth it,move on.

quickly

[DRFTHR]

lol wow ! i dont believe you need a ring to show your love but if that was to happen id rather a set of tires and a burnout pad hehehehehe she sounds like 1 of those girls who has planed it all since she was 5 or younger Eeeeeeeee that is scary i dont plan on getting married to me its a waste of money that i would quite happily spend on my bike or car :)

[Urano]

tradition???????
are there traditions on how much to spend in an engagement ring?

i always thought i married the last perfect woman in the world.... and i did with not so much money, but a lot of love... sorry guys, mine the last... :D :D :D ;)

(PS: Aprilia that kind of persons don't worth even the gymnastic.... it'd probably been a poor fuck... )

[Brian d marge]

Do the young ladies on Manchester street accept 10 %

and thats cheap , my missus gets 100 % of my money ,,,gawd knows what she does with it , as shes alway complaining we are broke ,,,
Stephen

[ejc]

Speaking as one of the female gender, as an engagement gift I'd much rather have a motorbike that costs at least 10% of his annual income. I am a bit girlie though - I wanted a nice sparkly ring, so I went and bought myself one. It was exactly what I wanted and I didn't even have to wait for someone else to get around to shopping for one.

I am familiar with the breed of females that require men to buy them sparkly things, I have no respect for them.

Did you know that you can buy a perfect diamond for much less than a flawed one? They're synthetic diamonds made in a lab. They are mostly detectable because they are flawless. Make sure the gold is of a good quality too though, as a 9 Carat gold ring holding a 2 Carat flawless diamond might raise eyebrows. Don't let her take it to get valued or insured as your trick will be discovered.

[Slyer]

Speaking as one of the female gender, as an engagement gift I'd much rather have a motorbike that costs at least 10% of his annual income. I am a bit girlie though - I wanted a nice sparkly ring, so I went and bought myself one. It was exactly what I wanted and I didn't even have to wait for someone else to get around to shopping for one.

I am familiar with the breed of females that require men to buy them sparkly things, I have no respect for them.

Did you know that you can buy a perfect diamond for much less than a flawed one? They're synthetic diamonds made in a lab. They are mostly detectable because they are flawless. Make sure the gold is of a good quality too though, as a 9 Carat gold ring holding a 2 Carat flawless diamond might raise eyebrows. Don't let her take it to get valued or insured as your trick will be discovered.
Do you want to get a Coffee sometime?

[rachprice]

Wow I always wonder if these sorts of people exist, girls that are just with people for money or whatever, none of my girlfriends are like that!

For sure I would not turn down sparkly jewelery but definitely wouldn't expect it, I don't particularly want to get married anyway so a ring isn't high on the agenda.
Whats with the obsession with getting married anyway?? people seem so dam impatient to tie themselves down to someone so they aren't alone or something (I do realise there are the lucky few that truly have met their 'soulmates' but divorce stats say they are definitely not the majority)

[aprilia_RS250]

Wow I always wonder if these sorts of people exist, girls that are just with people for money or whatever, none of my girlfriends are like that!

For sure I would not turn down sparkly jewelery but definitely wouldn't expect it, I don't particularly want to get married anyway so a ring isn't high on the agenda.
Whats with the obsession with getting married anyway?? people seem so dam impatient to tie themselves down to someone so they aren't alone or something (I do realise there are the lucky few that truly have met their 'soulmates' but divorce stats say they are definitely not the majority)

I've been told by a 50 yr old once all your girlfriends start getting married and start dropping sprogs you naturally want to do the same. And women LOVE showing off their diamond rings, it's supposedly equivalent to teenage chicks showing off their hair/shoes etc. It also gives them hypothetical price benchmark they can compare themselves to others, and obviously the higher the better.

[Slyer]

Look at my rock, my rock is amazing.

[rachprice]

I've been told by a 50 yr old once all your girlfriends start getting married and start dropping sprogs you naturally want to do the same. And women LOVE showing off their diamond rings, it's supposedly equivalent to teenage chicks showing off their hair/shoes etc. It also gives them hypothetical price benchmark they can compare themselves to others, and obviously the higher the better.

I have lots of friends that are married and with kids....probably turns me off the idea even more, than making me want to do it!

[Number One]

I have lots of friends that are married and with kids....probably turns me off the idea even more, than making me want to do it!

Hell yeah! Where were all the young sproglets to put me off procreating :lol:

[rie]

Well if im prepared to drop 2k on an exhaust and 1k on some mirrors spending a bit on an engagement ring isn't really a hard ask is it?

mate, an engagement ring with any decent rock is the equivalent to a brand new bike. it's not worth it!!!

[The Pastor]

mate, an engagement ring with any decent rock is the equivalent to a brand new bike. it's not worth it!!!

my bikes cost $500

[Maki]

Met up with a girl few nights ago for dinner. Everything was going well, we talked about interesting things she looked extremely hot food was good etc. After we were done she offered to drive me home (as I only have a bike:scooter:). We decided to grab some Movenpick ice cream on the way back at Mission Bay.

So while eating our ice creams somehow she starts talking about how her friend has recently got engaged and how her man got her an awesome engagement ring that she's been blinging it around. Then she tells me she has her engagement ring all sorted out as well, gets her phone out and pow starts showing me pictures of a rock that would make even Micheal Hill sweat.:blink: Tells me the MAN needs to spend at least 10% of his annual income on the ring.:gob: I shat my self when she said that. I politely asked before or after tax?? She looked at me like she was annoyed by that question and confirmed it should be before tax. 15min later I was in bed, by myself.:sleep:

I'm 24, I've never heard of this before. Neither have my male friends, however it's a 50/50 split between the female ones where they said the man needs to spend a large sum on the engagement ring to make it special. Is this really true??

You lucky guy. She has already shown you all her cards so you know where to go from here. She is a shallow money grubbing bitch and she had the deceny to tell you that in pretty plain language. If a woman REALLY cares about YOU she will jump for joy with just a ring from the $2 shop. If you can, jump into bed with this girl and get all the jollies you can. Just don't sign anything ar make any verbal commitments. Like they say, the best things in life are free.

[Whynot]

Met up with a girl few nights ago for dinner. Everything was going well, we talked about interesting things she looked extremely hot food was good etc. After we were done she offered to drive me home (as I only have a bike:scooter:). We decided to grab some Movenpick ice cream on the way back at Mission Bay.

So while eating our ice creams somehow she starts talking about how her friend has recently got engaged and how her man got her an awesome engagement ring that she's been blinging it around. Then she tells me she has her engagement ring all sorted out as well, gets her phone out and pow starts showing me pictures of a rock that would make even Micheal Hill sweat.:blink: Tells me the MAN needs to spend at least 10% of his annual income on the ring.:gob: I shat my self when she said that. I politely asked before or after tax?? She looked at me like she was annoyed by that question and confirmed it should be before tax. 15min later I was in bed, by myself.:sleep:

I'm 24, I've never heard of this before. Neither have my male friends, however it's a 50/50 split between the female ones where they said the man needs to spend a large sum on the engagement ring to make it special. Is this really true??

Gold digger.

[rachprice]

Hell yeah! Where were all the young sproglets to put me off procreating :lol:

Heheheheh there isn't anything wrong with being married and having children....apart from the fact Id be a terrible mother.....the whole married with kids just doesn't fit in with what I want to do with my life!

[ejc]

Do you want to get a Coffee sometime?

Ah, no thanks. But thanks for the charming invitation

[Sims]

Originally Posted by rie
mate, an engagement ring with any decent rock is the equivalent to a brand new bike. it's not worth it!!!


my bikes cost $500


rie did say _new_ bike, or are you buying some of those new chinese whatchamacallits?... make sure you have your insurances payed up if it only cost $500 new!

Personally for the right girl I'd spend a bit of money to show I'm genuine. $10k would be a bridge to far tho. Well until my grand master plan of winning lotto unfolds... any week now...

[hellokitty]

When I got engaged I had my Nana's ring remade as I wanted to get my first road bike instead. I thought that was more important than jewellery.

Riding is something that we can do together, and I don't do pillion.

Funny thing was when I got it valued, was worth the same as a brand new bike anyway....

Get a woman that knows the true value of a good man - if she wants a ring you can't afford, tell her to buy it herself on hire purchase from Micheal Hill.