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scracha
14th March 2010, 20:16
Saw a poker run and a rally posters (two different events) today. American, European and British bikes only. WTF? Racist cunts (and don't they realise Britain is part of Europe?).

How 'bout someone runs a rally for Jap & Korean bikes only?

roadracingoldfart
14th March 2010, 20:20
Saw a poker run and a rally posters (two different events) today. American, European and British bikes only. WTF? Racist cunts (and don't they realise Britain is part of Europe?).

How 'bout someone runs a rally for Jap & Korean bikes only?


Damm straight , sepratist bastards ......... they only get 3 bikes on thier runs

CookMySock
14th March 2010, 20:23
How 'bout someone runs a rally for Jap & Korean bikes only?Why not? People should go and do as they choose, just like you do.

How does it affect you?

Steve

wbks
14th March 2010, 20:23
How 'bout someone runs a rally for Jap & Korean bikes only?I believe they do, the occasional weekend around coro. Maybe not so many Koreans, though
Side note: Do they get pissed off if someone on a 675 goes along to their "real bike" type runs?

DIN PELENDA
14th March 2010, 20:29
I believe they do, the occasional weekend around coro. Maybe not so many Koreans, though
Side note: Do they get pissed off if someone on a 675 goes along to their "real bike" type runs?

2nd that, and let me know when is next one I will go to it and take my Honda or Yamaha ( show them how to ride ), love to see what happens, you are welcome to come and watch !!!

Din

Sensei
14th March 2010, 20:36
We have motorbike Drags here that are non Jap , has been since it first began & want change ever . Same as the Bike Expo no Jap bikes I guess thats why people start their own Clubs for .

breakaway
14th March 2010, 20:41
You guys should bitch less and ride more.

Oakie
14th March 2010, 20:54
How does it affect you? Steve

Umm, at a guess I'd say it means he can't join in ... ?

CookMySock
14th March 2010, 21:07
Umm, at a guess I'd say it means he can't join in ... ?hurt and left out?

Steve

Lurch
14th March 2010, 21:33
Japs bikes are fucking shite. Gutless, unreliable, made by slanty eyed nepotists. Bloody japs and their bloody bikes.

meowmix
14th March 2010, 21:40
I'm, a fan of old brit bikes, even though I'm 30 years or so late. Jappas have just made the same and better tech, cheaper and more efficient. Its passion/pride vs logic. Most motorcyclists have a reasonable amount of passion/pride, otherwise we'd all be driving camrys.

Brian d marge
14th March 2010, 23:21
Remind me to set up a store selling knuckle protectors , Id make a fortune with all them dragging on ground

before I got me " made in Japan American, Ducati " out for the ride

Stephen

Slyer
15th March 2010, 00:14
Yes I've never understood this... A bike is a bike.

roadracingoldfart
15th March 2010, 06:02
Most motorcyclists have a reasonable amount of passion/pride, otherwise we'd all be driving camrys.

Hey , i drive a Camry , whats wrong with that ????

Mind you , i dont own a bike anymore either.

Owl
15th March 2010, 06:05
There's no J in BEARS!:no:

awayatc
15th March 2010, 06:16
all the japs have ever done is copy.....
they haven't invented a thing...

It is not a question of whether the bikes are any better ,
it is whether the owners are.....

I put my money where my mouth is,
I try not to support copiers.

avgas
15th March 2010, 06:36
Scracha you fool - that was the tractor pull at the local shindig.
I have been down this road in the past with cars. I laughed all the way to bank when I sold my Mitsi Sapporo........where as my mates cried when they came to sell their 80's Holdens/Fords.
Its best to let is rest - just realise that when.
As for the Jappa's copying everything........every now and then they get something designed before everyone else.
Honda CB750
Suzuki RGV250
Suzuki Katana
Toyota Supra
Mazda RX7
Toyota Crown
Suzuki RE5
Nissan Skyline
Suzuki GSXR.......

Also before spouting shit about the Japanese.......What inspired the early Triumph and Harley designs?......since they were not technically the first motorbike manufacturers (only been around just over a 100 years). Sometimes it is a good idea to copy an idea - then cock up with your own design.

koba
15th March 2010, 06:37
all the japs have ever done is copy.....
they haven't invented a thing...

It is not a question of whether the bikes are any better ,
it is whether the owners are.....

I put my money where my mouth is,
I try not to support copiers.


Better get off that computer then...

p.dath
15th March 2010, 06:41
Japs bikes are fucking shite. Gutless, unreliable, made by slanty eyed nepotists. Bloody japs and their bloody bikes.

Where is your Suzuki made SV1000 made?

Metastable
15th March 2010, 07:10
all the japs have ever done is copy.....
they haven't invented a thing...

It is not a question of whether the bikes are any better ,
it is whether the owners are.....

I put my money where my mouth is,
I try not to support copiers.

I hope you don't support Ducait then... the bike that pretty much made them mainstream outside of Europe was the 916 a complete ripoff of the Honda NR750. The 916 was a nicer looking bike, but a ripoff.

- Colour and price! :D j/k
- Dual Rectangular front lights
- Single sided swingarm
- Under seat exhaust
- Solo seat
- vents on tail section and side fairings
- location of dual ram air ducts
- upside down forks

The more you look the more you find.

NR750 from 1992
http://www.diseno-art.com/images/honda-nr750.jpg

Duacti 916 from only 1 or 2 years later:
http://www.diseno-art.com/images/Ducati_916_123.jpg

Both images above from http://www.diseno-art.com

Lurch
15th March 2010, 07:31
Where is your Suzuki made SV1000 made?

Glad you spotted the sarcasm.

CookMySock
15th March 2010, 07:37
all the japs have ever done is copy.....
they haven't invented a thing...

It is not a question of whether the bikes are any better ,
it is whether the owners are.....

I put my money where my mouth is,
I try not to support copiers.Er pardon? The japs were instrumental in transforming the performance motorcycle scene.

And as for questioning who is a better human being based on what motorcycle they ride? Wtf with that?

Put foot where mouth is, more like it. All motorcycle manufacturers have built on others' and their own successes and failures - thats what growth is. If there was no japanese motorcycling industry, I shudder to think what we'd be riding now.

Steve

sinfull
15th March 2010, 07:42
I say boycot the events then !

jim.cox
15th March 2010, 07:54
Hey , i drive a Camry , whats wrong with that ????

A: Its a cage
B: They have horrible front suspension
C: The gear box is no better
D: Often used as company rep-mobiles...
E: All of the above

I pick "E: All of the above"



Mind you , i dont own a bike anymore either.

Now THAT"S a problem :( You need to get that sorted...

jim.cox
15th March 2010, 08:00
e was the 916 a complete ripoff of the Honda NR750. The 916 was a nicer looking bike, but a ripoff.

It aint a rip-off iif it looks nicer

Thats just the Italians selling better Art, as they have done for centuries

And the proof that they are better is refelected in the numbers sold



But back on tiopic - feeling the need to ban one type of bike from a show - and then having to publicise the ban - is bad Karma.

And the smell of that attitude is something that I prefer to avoid

Maybe the local classic Jappa's would like orgainise a Ride-Past - "Tora Tora Tora" and all that :)



Oh yeah - one more thing you dont get from them pics - the 916 also sounds better :)

Big Dave
15th March 2010, 08:45
I attended a 'Suzuki only' event over the weekend.

Ferkletastic
15th March 2010, 09:05
all the japs have ever done is copy.....
they haven't invented a thing...

It is not a question of whether the bikes are any better ,
it is whether the owners are.....

I put my money where my mouth is,
I try not to support copiers.

This is seriously the stupidest anti Japanese bike arguement I've ever heard.

So you only ever drive French cars? German computers?

CookMySock
15th March 2010, 09:14
I attended a 'Suzuki only' event over the weekend.It's the honda only ones you gotta watch. Soap, shower, etc.
:niceone:

Steve

AllanB
15th March 2010, 09:16
Japs bikes are fucking shite. Gutless, unreliable, made by slanty eyed nepotists. Bloody japs and their bloody bikes.

Yeah, how often do you go into your shed, put the key in the bike and thumb the starter and the bloody Jap bike fires right up, regardless of how long it has been sitting there. Bloody Jap bikes that don't require a half day on the spanners before you ride.

Hell I heard that they don't even need their tyre pressures checking as the factory air is so good it does not alter, unlike that damp English air.

AllanB
15th March 2010, 09:16
It's the honda only ones you gotta watch. Soap, shower, etc.
:niceone:

Steve

Nothing wrong with being clean Steve ...........

Drew
15th March 2010, 09:16
all the japs have ever done is copy.....
they haven't invented a thing...

It is not a question of whether the bikes are any better ,
it is whether the owners are.....

I put my money where my mouth is,
I try not to support copiers.The owners of non jap bikes are better, because their bikes are not. Good argument.

bogan
15th March 2010, 09:20
I'm, a fan of old brit bikes, even though I'm 30 years or so late. Jappas have just made the same and better tech, cheaper and more efficient. Its passion/pride vs logic. Most motorcyclists have a reasonable amount of passion/pride, otherwise we'd all be driving camrys.

how the fuck am I sposed to cart dirt bikes round in a camry? (and dont give me none of that trailer shite neither, vannage FTW!)


Yeah, how often do you go into your shed, put the key in the bike and thumb the starter and the bloody Jap bike fires right up, regardless of how long it has been sitting there. Bloody Jap bikes that don't require a half day on the spanners before you ride.

Hell I heard that they don't even need their tyre pressures checking as the factory air is so good it does not alter, unlike that damp English air.

Thats the answer right there, if you do a ride with jappas and non jappas all the riders on jap bike will have to wait round for ages while the rest are getting fixed up along the way :bleh:

AllanB
15th March 2010, 09:22
Originally Posted by awayatc
all the japs have ever done is copy.....
they haven't invented a thing...

It is not a question of whether the bikes are any better ,
it is whether the owners are.....

I put my money where my mouth is,
I try not to support copiers.

You funny wee fella.

I'm thinking about your Softtail, surely it is a copy of a copy of a copy of a Harley ............

Plus it is full of Japanese bits .........

ckai
15th March 2010, 09:27
A: Its a cage
B: They have horrible front suspension
C: The gear box is no better
D: Often used as company rep-mobiles...
E: All of the above

I pick "E: All of the above"




Now THAT"S a problem :( You need to get that sorted...


You forgot:

D (+1): Can't find them in a carpark :D


Saw a poker run and a rally posters (two different events) today. American, European and British bikes only. WTF? Racist cunts (and don't they realise Britain is part of Europe?).

How 'bout someone runs a rally for Jap & Korean bikes only?

I say, I would never ride my British bike with American bikes. It might catch something. It's much better to segregate that sorta thing. You don't know what sorta things those jappa's are carrying as well.

Is this a bad thing then? http://www.americarna.co.nz. Or is it the problem that everyone else is invited to the party apart from the jappa's? Because that is a bit mean. Jappa's have feelings too.

MSTRS
15th March 2010, 09:38
I've heard it's best if you don't go to a Mothers' trackday on anything but a Massey Davidson...

R-Soul
15th March 2010, 09:51
all the japs have ever done is copy.....
they haven't invented a thing...

It is not a question of whether the bikes are any better ,
it is whether the owners are.....

I put my money where my mouth is,
I try not to support copiers.

So who did they copy to be able to make their bikes so reliable, cheap and fast? Certainly not Ducati (not cheap), the Americans (not cheap, reliable or fast) or British (not very cheap or reliable or fast)?

bogan
15th March 2010, 09:53
So who did they copy to be able to make their bikes so reliable, cheap and fast? Certainly not Ducati (not cheap), the Americans (not cheap, reliable or fast) or British (not very cheap or reliable or fast)?

nah, its the tech they copied, you know, with the bit that goes up and down and the bit that spins round an round, almost like the guy who invented that should have patented it!

R-Soul
15th March 2010, 09:55
Saw a poker run and a rally posters (two different events) today. American, European and British bikes only. WTF? Racist cunts (and don't they realise Britain is part of Europe?).



They are just being considerate - they understand that Japanese bike riders enjoy riding and prefer not to sit around all day waiting for spares with their mates.

Drew
15th March 2010, 10:31
I've heard it's best if you don't go to a Mothers' trackday on anything but a Massey Davidson...Best to avoid that day entirely if ya can. Steel caps=bike boots. Leather vest=race suit. Denim jeans=knee sliders. Now ya might not think a harley rider had much call fo sliders, but quite a few of those guys crash, and there's a period of sliding along on the primary cover and left knee before the whales come to a stop.

Eight bikes crammed across the front row of the grid, and none of them with a clue.

I do wonder though, why do they race them? When they all say it's not about how fast you can go, but the ride instead. Hypocracy at it's finest.

Big Dave
15th March 2010, 10:36
Eight bikes crammed across the front row of the grid, and none of them with a clue.
I do wonder though, why do they race them? When they all say it's not about how fast you can go, but the ride instead. Hypocracy at it's finest.

Dunno - but that's a pretty good example of the reasoning why they don't want jap bike riders there.

scracha
15th March 2010, 10:39
Why not? People should go and do as they choose, just like you do.

How does it affect you?

Steve
Because "bubba" gets to go and I don't. I'm just left to hear his tales of how him and his mates "blew away some pooftah on a GSXR1000" round the twisties on their softtail. He calls me a fag because my exhaust doesn't sound like a fart from 1/2 Km away



I was thinking of taking my mates Honda PC800. It's American designed. In fact, it's more American than most bikes.

MSTRS
15th March 2010, 10:49
Best to avoid that day entirely if ya can....

Oh, believe me - it would be no problem at all to not attend. Highly recommended, in fact, if you have even a smidgeon of commonsense.
It is the apparent fact that they run it as their idea of a race, will happily take your entry fee but refuse to pay you the winners prize if you're on a japper etc...

wingnutt
15th March 2010, 10:54
I wonder how I would get on, I have a honda goldwing that was made in the USA

bogan
15th March 2010, 11:03
I wonder how I would get on, I have a honda goldwing that was made in the USA

well if its to the track you refer, poorly at best; regardless of where it was made :bleh:

Big Dave
15th March 2010, 11:07
What I was trying to point out about Drew's post is that it's mostly about hanging out with like-minded individuals. Whatever the mind set.
And I don't mean gang related rides - legal clubs and events. Jap or whatever.
Some of it is based on bias - what matter of personal taste isn't?

If you want to go - get a bears bike. easy.

Indiana_Jones
15th March 2010, 11:09
(and don't they realise Britain is part of Europe?).

Depends who you talk to.

-Indy

kwaka_crasher
15th March 2010, 11:16
What I was trying to point out about Drew's post is that it's mostly about hanging out with like-minded individuals. Whatever the mind set.

Like ummmm... other motorcyclists? I don't recall anyone saying they wanted to head along on their horse.

Ratti
15th March 2010, 11:33
It's all about Tribalism guys.

Some folk are so insecure in themselves that they simply MUST 'belong'. That way they have the security of an 'us' and 'other' situation.
Rules about what to wear.
rules about what to ride.
rules about what to drink.
rules about .....

I have this discussion frequently. And stop it simply by saying, "I don't buy into your concept of what constitutes 'class'. SO where does that leave your argument?"

bye!

Big Dave
15th March 2010, 11:54
Like ummmm... other motorcyclists? I don't recall anyone saying they wanted to head along on their horse.


It's all about Tribalism guys.
Some folk are so insecure in themselves that they simply MUST 'belong'.

I go to all of them. To observe. Harley, Suzuki, Triumph and Honda - et al. The people attending are all remarkably similar in the fact that they are a diverse bunch of individuals.
The one common thing is that they enjoy hanging out with folks 'like them' - as in like what they like.

It gives them affirmation, makes it easier to relax and form friendships because of the common bond of something as superfluous as a brand or type of bike.
It's much nicer around the bar without some goober telling you why his brand is better than yours.

Then there's shared specialist knowledge, sweetheart loyalty deals from the manufacturer, lots of benefits, but mostly it's riding and being 'part of something' they like, taking the piss and having fun.

Slyer
15th March 2010, 11:58
I thought having a bike in general was enough of a bond, guess not.

Big Dave
15th March 2010, 12:02
I thought having a bike in general was enough of a bond, guess not.

Mildly Serious Answer A: You want to know how to get a discount on a new one?

Flippant Answer B: Nobody is forcing you to join, but then knowing you - nobody is actually asking either.

Genie
15th March 2010, 12:03
Thats the answer right there, if you do a ride with jappas and non jappas all the riders on jap bike will have to wait round for ages while the rest are getting fixed up along the way :bleh:

went out one day on my trusty little jappa, went with a couple of those big harley types, on no! One broke down.....what fixed it, the little Jappa's toolkit!!!!!

Lesson to be learnt, be friends with everyone for you never know when you just might need them!!!

bogan
15th March 2010, 12:06
went out one day on my trusty little jappa, went with a couple of those big harley types, on no! One broke down.....what fixed it, the little Jappa's toolkit!!!!!

Lesson to be learnt, get a jappa cos they dont break down as often, and come with tools to fix it anyway

fixed :D

Slyer
15th March 2010, 12:26
Mildly Serious Answer A: You want to know how to get a discount on a new one?

Flippant Answer B: Nobody is forcing you to join, but then knowing you - nobody is actually asking either.
There's no reason I'd want to join. I'm saying that I find comradery with people that ride all kinds of bikes while others don't. Their loss.

Drew
15th March 2010, 12:36
If you want to go - get a bears bike. easy.I went once on the 749. Peter Tanner, Jamie Galway and I lapped a guy on the second lap. I dunno how they get away with running the event to be honest. More dangerous than riding on the road.

Big Dave
15th March 2010, 12:48
I went once on the 749. Peter Tanner, Jamie Galway and I lapped a guy on the second lap. I dunno how they get away with running the event to be honest. More dangerous than riding on the road.

Yeah - I didn't mean to impugn the veracity of the observation at all. Just note that it was delivered from a different perspective.

(I had to spell check both words)

PS - I was also pointing at the OP.

Headbanger
15th March 2010, 12:57
I blame the yanks, Surely they had enough in the war chest for a couple more nukes?

Cayman911
15th March 2010, 13:42
I doubt there was probably reasons such as "japs suck" or as such.
its just a totaly different scene with jap bikes and/or british& US bikes . and they want to stick with the "scene" . you will never see a ducati and a harley cruise together. same thing really.


but to me having everything means a better event. variety is what its all about. why would you want to see the same thing 30 times?

AllanB
15th March 2010, 14:19
. you will never see a ducati and a harley cruise together.

Actually I have noticed over the past few years that around Christchurch you see all types of bikes riding together with their friends. Sure there are the standard packs of sportbikes, harleys, triumphs etc but often a handful of mates grouped on whatever they ride out for a Sunday spin. Bloody good stuff too and I notice they often bag the crap out of each other as they rightly should!

What you hardly ever see is a Jap bike that has been traded sitting outside the harley/triumph dealer. I wonder if this is more due to the crap trade price offered or they get put on Trademe. Or is this form of cross-over between brands illegal? Surely there are plenty of Japanese cruisers traded on Harleys?

Eyegasm
15th March 2010, 14:24
why would you want to see the same thing 30 times?

Awesome, new reason not to get married!!!

R-Soul
15th March 2010, 14:25
Because "bubba" gets to go and I don't. I'm just left to hear his tales of how him and his mates "blew away some pooftah on a GSXR1000" round the twisties on their softtail. He calls me a fag because my exhaust doesn't sound like a WET fart from 1/2 Km away

I was thinking of taking my mates Honda PC800. It's American designed. In fact, it's more American than most bikes.

Is it also slow and does it break down a lot? They dont want you having an unfair advantage in the races...

NZsarge
15th March 2010, 14:31
Meh, if they feel the need to exclude riders of Jap bikes then it probably not an event worth going to... ie: No loss..

golfmade
15th March 2010, 14:35
I blame the yanks, Surely they had enough in the war chest for a couple more nukes?

Had to save those for the pinko commies.

roadracingoldfart
15th March 2010, 16:00
A: Its a cage
B: They have horrible front suspension
C: The gear box is no better
D: Often used as company rep-mobiles...
E: All of the above

I pick "E: All of the above"


Now THAT"S a problem :( You need to get that sorted...

A; No , its a station wagon
B; Its not a race car
C; its an auto !!!
D; it was a company car

I got a garage full of race bike so no room for a street urchin.



It's the honda only ones you gotta watch. Soap, shower, etc.
:niceone:

Steve

They all have a rope attached for re-use convieniance though.
Im fucked , i was in the Navy and i owned Hondas..........

Paul.

kwaka_crasher
15th March 2010, 16:10
all the japs have ever done is copy.....
they haven't invented a thing...

It is not a question of whether the bikes are any better ,
it is whether the owners are.....

I put my money where my mouth is,
I try not to support copiers.

What a load of shit. The Japanese have brought us many inventions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_inventions) and innovative products.

You're thinking of the chinks! Now, they'll copy absolutely fucking anything... :yes:

http://www.gotrademe.com/

https://secure.freeparking.co.nz/lookup/mini_whois.mv?domain_name=gotrademe.com&ajaxcall=1

Oakie
15th March 2010, 18:30
all the japs have ever done is copy..... they haven't invented a thing...

EDIT: Arghh feck it! kwaka_crasher had the same idea and beat me to it. Ah well, that's life I guess. Can't be arsed removing my post now after all the work it took removing the irrelevancies

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Automatic power loom
Sakichi Toyoda invented numerous weaving devices. His most famous invention was the automatic power loom in which he implemented the principle of Jidoka (autonomation or autonomous automation). It was the 1924 Toyoda Automatic Loom, Type G, a completely automatic high-speed loom featuring the ability to change shuttles without stopping and dozens of other innovations. At the time it was the world's most advanced loom, delivering a dramatic improvement in quality and a twenty-fold increase in productivity.[78]

Autonomation (autonomous automation)
Sakichi Toyoda's most famous invention was the automatic power loom in which he implemented the principle of Jidoka (autonomation or autonomous automation). The principle of Jidoka, which means that the machine stops itself when a problem occurs, became later a part of the Toyota Production System.[citation needed]

Chi Machine
A device created by Japanese scientist Dr. Shizuo Inoue. It holds US FDA approval as a Class 1 Medical Device Regulation #890.5660.[79] It apparently oxygenates the body via "passive aerobic exercise", which the manufacturer claims stimulates the lymphatic system and supposedly enables detoxification.[citation needed]

Cold fusion methods
Shunpei Yamazaki was granted patents for several cold nuclear fusion methods, including the "Electrochemical Method for Creating Nuclear Fusion", the "Plasma Method for Creating Nuclear Fusion", and an "Electrode for Use in Nuclear Fusion".[80]

Cultured pearl
Primarily the result of discoveries made in the late 19th and early 20th centuries by the Japanese researchers Tokishi Nishikawa and Tatsuhei Mise. What they discovered was a specific technique for inducing the creation of a round pearl within the gonad of an oyster. This technique was patented by Kokichi Mikimoto shortly thereafter, and the first harvest of rounds was produced in 1916. This discovery revolutionized the pearl industry, because it allowed pearl farmers to reliably cultivate large numbers of high-quality pearls.[citation needed]

Japanese typewriter
The first typewriter to be based on the Japanese writing system was invented by Kyota Sugimoto in 1929.[81]

TohoScope
Toho Scope is an anamorphic lens system developed in the late 1950s by Toho Studios.[citation needed]

Audio technology

Analog modeling synthesizer
A synthesizer that emulates the sounds of traditional analog synthesizers using digital signal processing components. The earliest was Korg's Prophecy in the mid-1990s.[citation needed]

Compact Disc player
Sony released the world's first CD Player, called the CDP-101,[82] in 1982, utilising a slide-out tray design for the Compact Disc.

Digital audio
Digital recording of classical and jazz music began in the early 1970s, pioneered by Japanese companies such as Denon, and was soon adopted by British companies such as the BBC and record label Decca.[citation needed]

Digital synthesizer
The Yamaha DX7 in 1983 was the first stand-alone all-digital synthesizer.[83] It became indispensable to many music artists of the 1980s.[84]

Digital waveguide synthesis
Developed in 1989 by Yamaha alongside Stanford University

PCM adaptor
The Sony PCM-1600 was the first video-based 16-bit PCM recorder (using a special U-matic VCR for a transport), and continues in its 1610 and 1630 incarnations. The 1600 was one of the first systems used for mastering audio compact discs in the early 1980s by many major record labels.[citation needed]

Phase distortion synthesis
A synthesis method introduced in 1984 by Casio in its CZ range of synths.

Physical modelling synthesis
The first commercially available physical modelling synthesizer was Yamaha's VL-1 in 1994.[85]

Polyphony
In 1976, the first true music synthesizers to offer polyphony had begun to appear, in the form of the Yamaha GX1, CS-50, CS-60 and CS-80.

Portable CD player
Sony's Discman, released in 1984, was the first portable CD player.[86]

Vowel-Consonant synthesis
A type of hybrid Digital-analogue synthesis first employed by the early Casiotone keyboards in the early 1980s.

Walkman
In 1979, the Walkman was introduced by Sony, in the form of the world's first portable music player. Though it was originally invented by Andreas Pavel in 1972. Sony refused to acknowledge that he was the inventor of the device, but after numerous trials the court ruled in favour of Pavel and forced Sony to pay royalties.

Aviation

Biplane
Chūhachi Ninomiya's "Tamamushi-gata hikouki"("Jewel beetle type flyer") in 1893 is the earliest known biplane.[87]

Landing gear
Chūhachi Ninomiya's "Karasu-gata mokei hikouki" ("Crow-type model aircraft") in 1891 had three wheels as landing gear.[citation needed]

Pusher propeller
Invented by Chūhachi Ninomiya in 1891 as part of his "Karasu-gata mokei hikouki" ("Crow-type model aircraft"). The four-blade pusher propeller, inspired from a bamboo-copter, was driven by a rubber band. His "Tamamushi-gata hikouki"("Jewel beetle type flyer") in 1893 was also equipped with a four-blade pusher propeller.[citation needed]

Stabilizer
Chūhachi Ninomiya's "Karasu-gata mokei hikouki" ("Crow-type model aircraft") in 1891 was the earliest to be equipped with a horizontal stabilizer at its tail and a vertical stabilizer at its nose.[citation needed]

Tailless aircraft
Chūhachi Ninomiya's "Tamamushi-gata hikouki"("Jewel beetle type flyer") in 1893 is the earliest known tailless aircraft.[87]

Calculators

Credit-card-sized calculator
The first credit-card-sized calculator was the Casio Mini Card LC-78, of 1978, which could run for months of normal use on button cells.

Electric compact calculator
The Casio Computer Co., in Japan, released the Model 14-A calculator in 1957, which was the world's first all-electric compact calculator.

Graphing calculator
The first graphing calculator was the Casio fx-7000G, released in 1985. Many more Casio graphic calculators have been released since then.

Pocket calculator
The first portable calculators appeared in Japan in 1970, and were soon marketed around the world. These included the Sanyo ICC-0081 "Mini Calculator", the Canon Pocketronic, and the Sharp QT-8B "micro Compet". Sharp put in great efforts in size and power reduction and introduced in January 1971 the Sharp EL-8, also marketed as the Facit 1111, which was close to being a pocket calculator. It weighed about one pound, had a vacuum fluorescent display, and rechargeable NiCad batteries. The first truly pocket-sized electronic calculator was the Busicom LE-120A "HANDY", which was marketed early in 1971.[88] Made in Japan, this was the first calculator to use an LED display, the first hand-held calculator to use a single integrated circuit (then proclaimed as a "calculator on a chip"), and the first electronic calculator to run off replaceable batteries. Using four AA-size cells, the LE-120A measures 4.9x2.8x0.9 in (124x72x24 mm).

Solar-powered calculator
With low power consumption came the possibility of using solar cells as the power source, realised around 1978 by the Sharp EL-8026.

Cameras

Camcorder
In 1982, Sony released the first professional camcorder, named the Betacam.

Digital camera
The first true digital camera that recorded images as a computerized file was the Fuji DS-1P, in 1988. It recorded to a 16 MB internal memory card that used a battery to keep the data in memory.

Digital single-lens reflex camera
On August 25, 1981 Sony unveiled a prototype of the first still video camera, the Sony Mavica. This camera was an analog electronic camera that featured interchangeable lenses and a SLR viewfinder. At Photokina in 1986, Nikon revealed a prototype analog electronic still SLR camera, the Nikon SVC, the first digital SLR. The prototype body shared many features with the N8008.[89] In 1999, Nikon announced the Nikon D1, the first DSLR to truly compete with, and begin to replace, film cameras in the professional photojournalism and sports photography fields. This camera was able to use current autofocus Nikkor lenses available at that time for the Nikon film series cameras, and was also able to utilize the older Nikon and similar, independent mount lenses designed for those cameras. A combination of price, speed, and image quality was the beginning of the end of 35 mm film for these markets.

Handheld electronic camera
Handheld electronic cameras, in the sense of a device meant to be carried and used like a handheld film camera, appeared in 1981 with the demonstration of the Sony Mavica (Magnetic Video Camera). This was an analog camera, in that it recorded pixel signals continuously, as videotape machines did, without converting them to discrete levels; it recorded television-like signals to a 2 × 2 inch Video Floppy. Analog electronic cameras do not appear to have reached the market until 1986 with the Canon RC-701. Canon demonstrated a prototype of this model at the 1984 Summer Olympics, printing the images in the Yomiuri Shimbun, a Japanese newspaper.


Domestic appliances

Electric rice cooker
Invented by designers at the Mitsubishi Electric Corporation in the late 1940s.[90]

RFIQin
An automatic cooking device, invented by Mamoru Imura and patented in 2007.

Electronics

Blue laser
Following the research of Professor Isamu Akasaki's group, the first commercially viable blue laser was invented by Shuji Nakamura while working at Nichia Corporation

Glass integrated circuit
Shunpei Yamazaki invented an integrated circuit made entirely from glass and with an 8-bit central processing unit.

Indium gallium nitride
Indium gallium nitride (InGaN) is a semiconductor invented by Shuji Nakamura.

Microprocessor
The world's first microprocessor, the Intel 4004, was designed by Masatoshi Shima of Busicom alongside Marcian Hoff and Federico Faggin.

Personal digital assistant
The first PDA is considered to be the Casio PF-3000 released in May 1983.

Plastic central processing unit
Shunpei Yamazaki invented a central processing unit made entirely from plastic

Videocassette recorder
The first machines (the VP-1100 videocassette player and the VO-1700 videocassette recorder) to use the first videocassette format, U-matic, was introduced by Sony in 1971.

Game controllers

Analog stick
In 1996, Nintendo introduced the first analog thumbstick on the Nintendo 64 controller. Since then, all major video game console controllers have included analog sticks.

D-pad
In 1982, Nintendo's Gunpei Yokoi elaborated on the idea of a circular pad, shrinking it and altering the points into the familiar modern "cross" design for control of on-screen characters in their Donkey Kong handheld game. It came to be known as the "D-pad".[94] The design proved to be popular for subsequent Game & Watch titles. This particular design was patented. In 1984, the Japanese company Epoch created a handheld game system called the Epoch Game Pocket Computer. It featured a D-pad, but it was not popular for its time and soon faded. Initially intended to be a compact controller for the Game & Watch handheld games alongside the prior non-connected style pad, Nintendo realized that Gunpei's design would also be appropriate for regular consoles, and Nintendo made the D-pad the standard directional control for the hugely successful Nintendo Entertainment System under the name "+Control Pad". All major video game consoles since have had a D-pad of some shape on their controllers.

Dance pad
The first dance pad was the Power Pad, a floor mat game controller for the Nintendo Entertainment System. It is a gray mat with twelve pressure-sensors embedded between two layers of flexible plastic. It was originally developed by Bandai

Force feedback
Introduced for game controllers by Nintendo's Rumble Pak, for the Nintendo 64 controller.

Motion-sensing controller
Invented by Nintendo for the Wii, the Wii Remote is the first controller with motion-sensing capability. It was a candidate for Time's Best Invention of 2006.

Metallurgy

Alnico
Alnico magnets were developed from the MKM steel invented by Tokuhichi Mishima.

KS steel
Kotaro Honda invented the KS steel (initials from Kichiei Sumitomo), which is a type of magnetic resistant steel that is three times more resistant than tungsten steel.

Magnetic steel
Kotaro Honda invented the KS steel, a type of magnetic resistant steel that is three times more resistant than tungsten steel. In 1931, Tokuhichi Mishima discovered that a strongly magnetic steel could be created by adding aluminum to non-magnetic nickel steel

MKM steel
An alloy containing nickel and aluminum, it was invented in 1931 by the Japanese metallurgist Tokuhichi Mishima. While conducting research into the properties of nickel, Mishima discovered that a strongly magnetic steel could be created by adding aluminum to non-magnetic nickel steel

Robotics

Android
The world's first android, DER 01, was developed by a Japanese research group, The Intelligent Robotics Lab, directed by Hiroshi Ishiguro at Osaka University, and Kokoro Co., Ltd. The Actroid is a humanoid robot with strong visual human-likeness developed by Osaka University and manufactured by Kokoro Company Ltd. (the animatronics division of Sanrio). It was first unveiled at the 2003 International Robot Exposition in Tokyo, Japan. The Actroid woman is a pioneer example of a real machine similar to imagined machines called by the science fiction terms android or gynoid, so far used only for fictional robots. It can mimic such lifelike functions as blinking, speaking, and breathing. The "Repliee" models are interactive robots with the ability to recognise and process speech and respond in kind.

Hybrid assistive limb
The HAL 5 is the first hybrid assistive limb, a powered exoskeleton suit currently in development by Tsukuba University of Japan.

Landmine-clearing robot
Shigeo Hirose is involved in work with the United Nations to develop a remotely controlled robot capable of clearing landmines.

Ninja robot
Invented by Shigeo Hirose, it is capable of climbing buildings and a seven-ton robot capable of climbing mountainous slopes with the aim of installing bolts in the ground so as to prevent landslides.

Storage technology

Blu-ray Disc
After Shuji Nakamura's invention of practical blue laser diodes,[102] Sony started two projects applying the new diodes: UDO (Ultra Density Optical) and DVR Blue (together with Pioneer), a format of rewritable discs which would eventually become the Blu-ray Disc.[

Compact Disc
Sony first publicly demonstrated an optical digital audio disc in September 1976. In September 1978, they demonstrated an optical digital audio disc with a 150 minute playing time, and with specifications of 44,056 Hz sampling rate, 16-bit linear resolution, cross-interleaved error correction code, that were similar to those of the Compact Disc they introduced in 1982.

Digital Audio Tape
A signal recording and playback medium developed by Sony in the mid 1980s.

DVD
The DVD optical disc format was developed by Sony alongside Philips.

Flash memory
Flash memory (both NOR and NAND types) was invented by Dr. Fujio Masuoka while working for Toshiba circa 1980. According to Toshiba, the name "flash" was suggested by Dr. Masuoka's colleague, Mr. Shoji Ariizumi, because the erasure process of the memory contents reminded him of a flash of a camera. Dr. Masuoka presented the invention at the IEEE 1984 International Electron Devices Meeting (IEDM) held in San Francisco, California.

Floppy disk
A Japanese inventor, Yoshiro Nakamatsu, invented the core floppy disk technology and, in 1952, registered a Japanese patent for his [1]. He later licensed 16 patents to IBM for the creation of the floppy disk.

Heat-assisted magnetic recording
HAMR was developed by Fujitsu in 2006 so that it could achieve one terabit per square inch densities.[

Memory card
The first flash memory card to be released was the JEIDA memory card by the Japan Electronic Industries Development Association.

Perpendicular recording
A technology for data recording on hard disks. It was first proven advantageous in 1976 by Shun-ichi Iwasaki, then professor of Tohoku University in Japan, and first commercially implemented in 2005.

Video cassette
In 1969, Sony introduced a prototype for the first video cassette, the 3/4" (1.905 cm) composite U-matic system, which Sony introduced commercially in September 1971 after working out industry standards with other manufacturers. Sony later refined it to Broadcast Video U-matic or BVU

Video Floppy
A video storage medium in the form of a 2" magnetic floppy disk used to store still frames of analog composite video. Video floppies were first developed by Sony in 1981 for their Mavica and later used by Panasonic and Canon for their still video cameras introduced in the late 1980s, such as the Canon Xapshot from 1988.

Timekeeping
A Seiko quartz wristwatch using the chronograph function (movement 7T92).

Quartz wristwatch
The world's first quartz wristwatch was revealed in 1967: the prototype of the Astron revealed by Seiko in Japan, where it was in development since 1958. It was eventually released to the public in 1969.[108] The inherent accuracy and low cost of production has resulted in the proliferation of quartz clocks and watches since that time. By the 1980s quartz technology had taken over applications such as kitchen timers, alarm clocks, bank vault time locks, and time fuzes on munitions, from earlier mechanical balance wheel movements.[

Quartz chronograph
Invented by Seiko in the 1970s.

Transport

Bullet train
The world's first high volume capable (initially 12 car maximum) "high-speed train" was Japan's Tōkaidō Shinkansen, that officially opened in October 1964, with construction commencing in April 1959.[109] The 0 Series Shinkansen, built by Kawasaki Heavy Industries, achieved maximum passenger service speeds of 210 km/h (130 mph) on the Tokyo–Nagoya–Kyoto–Osaka route, with earlier test runs hitting top speeds in 1963 at 256 km/h.

Dedicated high-speed rail lines
Japan was the first country to build dedicated railway lines for high speed travel. Because of the mountainous terrain, the existing network consisted of 3 ft 6 in (1,067 mm) narrow gauge lines, which generally took indirect routes and could not be adapted to higher speeds. Consequently, Japan had a greater need for new high speed lines than countries where the existing standard gauge or broad gauge rail system had more upgrade potential.

Electronically-controlled continuously variable transmission
In early 1987, Subaru launched the Justy in Tokyo with an electronically-controlled continuously variable transmission (ECVT) developed by Fuji Heavy Industries, which owns Subaru.

Kei car
A category of small automobiles, including passenger cars, vans, and pickup trucks. They are designed to exploit local tax and insurance relaxations, and in more rural areas are exempted from the requirement to certify that adequate parking is available for the vehicle. These standards originated in the times following the end of the Second World War, when most Japanese could not afford a full-sized car yet had enough to buy a motorcycle. To promote the growth of the car industry, as well as to offer an alternative delivery method to small business and shop owners, kei car standards were created.

Visual display units

Aperture grille
The first patented aperture grille televisions were manufactured by Sony in the late 1960s under the Trinitron brand name, which the company carried over to its line of CRT computer monitors. Subsequent designs, either licensed from Sony or manufactured after the patent's expiration, tend to use the -tron suffix, such as Mitsubishi's DiamondTron and ViewSonic's SonicTron. Today, Trinitron displays are still produced for markets such as Bangladesh, China, India and Pakistan.

Flat panel display
The first flat-panel displays were the flat CRTs used by Sony in their Watchman series (the FD-210 was introduced in 1982). One of the last flat-CRT models was the FD-120A. The CRT in these units was flat with the electron gun located roughly at right angles below the display surface thus requiring sophisticated electronics to create an undistorted picture free from effects such as keystoning.

Handheld colour television
In 1990, a color model of the Sony Watchman with an active-matrix LCD was released.

Handheld liquid crystal display television
In 1990, a color model of the Sony Watchman with an active-matrix LCD was released.

Liquid crystal display television
In 1988, Sharp Corporation introduced the first commercial LCD television, a 14" model.

Mechanical television
In the 1920s, the Japanese electrical scientist Yasujiro Niwa invented a simple device for phototelegraphic transmission through cable and later via radio, a precursor to mechanical television.

Plasma colour display
In 1992, Fujitsu introduced the world's first full-color plasma display. It was a hybrid, based upon the plasma display created at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and NHK STRL, achieving superior brightness.

Plasma television
In 1997, Pioneer released the first plasma television.

Pocket television
In 1982, Sony released the first television that could fit in a pocket: the Watchman; a pun on Walkman.

Weapons

Fire balloon
A fire balloon, or balloon bomb, was an experimental weapon launched by Japan from 1944 to 1945, during World War II.

Katana
The katana originated in the Muromachi period (1392–1573) as a result of changing battle conditions requiring faster response times. The katana facilitated this by being worn with the blade facing up, which allowed the samurai to draw and cut their enemy in a single motion. Previously, the curved sword of the samurai was worn with the blade facing down. The ability to draw and cut in one motion also became increasingly useful in the daily life of the samurai.

Shuriken
The earliest known mention of a school teaching shuriken-jutsu is Ganritsu Ryu, prevalent during the 1600s. There are also earlier mentions in written records, such as the Osaka Gunki (The Military Records of Osaka), of the standard knife and short sword being thrown in battle, and Miyamoto Musashi is said to have won a duel by throwing his short sword at his opponent, killing him.

Wireless transmission

Directional antenna
The first directional or beam antenna was the Yagi antenna, invented by Hidetsugu Yagi and Shintaro Uda in 1926.

High-gain antenna
The first high-gain antenna was also the Yagi antenna in 1926.

Yagi antenna
The Yagi-Uda antenna was invented in 1926 by Shintaro Uda of Tohoku Imperial University, Sendai, Japan, with the collaboration of Hidetsugu Yagi, also of Tohoku Imperial University. Yagi published the first English-language reference on the antenna in a 1928 survey article on short wave research in Japan and it came to be associated with his name. However, Yagi always acknowledged Uda's principal contribution to the design, and the proper name for the antenna is, as above, the Yagi-Uda antenna (or array).

bluebird
15th March 2010, 18:51
It's a club that offers security and reassurance for people that don't like speed, reliability or handling if it's made in Japan.

woodyracer
15th March 2010, 18:58
all the japs have ever done is copy.....
they haven't invented a thing...

It is not a question of whether the bikes are any better ,
it is whether the owners are.....

I put my money where my mouth is,
I try not to support copiers.

HAHAHAHAHAAAHA man you realy dont know anything do you??, if so did FIAT YAMAHA copy ducati in when they MOTO GP WORLD SUPERBIKES and MOTORCROSS last year?? amercians havnt invented anthing.....

Big Dave
15th March 2010, 19:00
I'd like to see your list of favourite things French.

Armitage Shanks
15th March 2010, 19:10
EDIT: Arghh feck it! kwaka_crasher had the same idea and beat me to it. Ah well, that's life I guess. Can't be arsed removing my post now after all the work it took removing the irrelevancies

Here is an incomplete list. If you look near the bottom you'll even see a motorcycle reference. Enjoy.


Automatic power loom
Sakichi Toyoda invented numerous weaving devices. His most famous invention was the automatic power loom in which he implemented the principle of Jidoka (autonomation or autonomous automation). It was the 1924 Toyoda Automatic Loom, Type G, a completely automatic high-speed loom featuring the ability to change shuttles without stopping and dozens of other innovations. At the time it was the world's most advanced loom, delivering a dramatic improvement in quality and a twenty-fold increase in productivity.[78]

Autonomation (autonomous automation)
Sakichi Toyoda's most famous invention was the automatic power loom in which he implemented the principle of Jidoka (autonomation or autonomous automation). The principle of Jidoka, which means that the machine stops itself when a problem occurs, became later a part of the Toyota Production System.[citation needed]

Chi Machine
A device created by Japanese scientist Dr. Shizuo Inoue. It holds US FDA approval as a Class 1 Medical Device Regulation #890.5660.[79] It apparently oxygenates the body via "passive aerobic exercise", which the manufacturer claims stimulates the lymphatic system and supposedly enables detoxification.[citation needed]

Cold fusion methods
Shunpei Yamazaki was granted patents for several cold nuclear fusion methods, including the "Electrochemical Method for Creating Nuclear Fusion", the "Plasma Method for Creating Nuclear Fusion", and an "Electrode for Use in Nuclear Fusion".[80]

Cultured pearl
Primarily the result of discoveries made in the late 19th and early 20th centuries by the Japanese researchers Tokishi Nishikawa and Tatsuhei Mise. What they discovered was a specific technique for inducing the creation of a round pearl within the gonad of an oyster. This technique was patented by Kokichi Mikimoto shortly thereafter, and the first harvest of rounds was produced in 1916. This discovery revolutionized the pearl industry, because it allowed pearl farmers to reliably cultivate large numbers of high-quality pearls.[citation needed]

Japanese typewriter
The first typewriter to be based on the Japanese writing system was invented by Kyota Sugimoto in 1929.[81]

TohoScope
Toho Scope is an anamorphic lens system developed in the late 1950s by Toho Studios.[citation needed]

Audio technology

Analog modeling synthesizer
A synthesizer that emulates the sounds of traditional analog synthesizers using digital signal processing components. The earliest was Korg's Prophecy in the mid-1990s.[citation needed]

Compact Disc player
Sony released the world's first CD Player, called the CDP-101,[82] in 1982, utilising a slide-out tray design for the Compact Disc.

Digital audio
Digital recording of classical and jazz music began in the early 1970s, pioneered by Japanese companies such as Denon, and was soon adopted by British companies such as the BBC and record label Decca.[citation needed]

Digital synthesizer
The Yamaha DX7 in 1983 was the first stand-alone all-digital synthesizer.[83] It became indispensable to many music artists of the 1980s.[84]

Digital waveguide synthesis
Developed in 1989 by Yamaha alongside Stanford University

PCM adaptor
The Sony PCM-1600 was the first video-based 16-bit PCM recorder (using a special U-matic VCR for a transport), and continues in its 1610 and 1630 incarnations. The 1600 was one of the first systems used for mastering audio compact discs in the early 1980s by many major record labels.[citation needed]

Phase distortion synthesis
A synthesis method introduced in 1984 by Casio in its CZ range of synths.

Physical modelling synthesis
The first commercially available physical modelling synthesizer was Yamaha's VL-1 in 1994.[85]

Polyphony
In 1976, the first true music synthesizers to offer polyphony had begun to appear, in the form of the Yamaha GX1, CS-50, CS-60 and CS-80.

Portable CD player
Sony's Discman, released in 1984, was the first portable CD player.[86]

Vowel-Consonant synthesis
A type of hybrid Digital-analogue synthesis first employed by the early Casiotone keyboards in the early 1980s.

Walkman
In 1979, the Walkman was introduced by Sony, in the form of the world's first portable music player. Though it was originally invented by Andreas Pavel in 1972. Sony refused to acknowledge that he was the inventor of the device, but after numerous trials the court ruled in favour of Pavel and forced Sony to pay royalties.

Aviation

Biplane
Chūhachi Ninomiya's "Tamamushi-gata hikouki"("Jewel beetle type flyer") in 1893 is the earliest known biplane.[87]

Landing gear
Chūhachi Ninomiya's "Karasu-gata mokei hikouki" ("Crow-type model aircraft") in 1891 had three wheels as landing gear.[citation needed]

Pusher propeller
Invented by Chūhachi Ninomiya in 1891 as part of his "Karasu-gata mokei hikouki" ("Crow-type model aircraft"). The four-blade pusher propeller, inspired from a bamboo-copter, was driven by a rubber band. His "Tamamushi-gata hikouki"("Jewel beetle type flyer") in 1893 was also equipped with a four-blade pusher propeller.[citation needed]

Stabilizer
Chūhachi Ninomiya's "Karasu-gata mokei hikouki" ("Crow-type model aircraft") in 1891 was the earliest to be equipped with a horizontal stabilizer at its tail and a vertical stabilizer at its nose.[citation needed]

Tailless aircraft
Chūhachi Ninomiya's "Tamamushi-gata hikouki"("Jewel beetle type flyer") in 1893 is the earliest known tailless aircraft.[87]

Calculators

Credit-card-sized calculator
The first credit-card-sized calculator was the Casio Mini Card LC-78, of 1978, which could run for months of normal use on button cells.

Electric compact calculator
The Casio Computer Co., in Japan, released the Model 14-A calculator in 1957, which was the world's first all-electric compact calculator.

Graphing calculator
The first graphing calculator was the Casio fx-7000G, released in 1985. Many more Casio graphic calculators have been released since then.

Pocket calculator
The first portable calculators appeared in Japan in 1970, and were soon marketed around the world. These included the Sanyo ICC-0081 "Mini Calculator", the Canon Pocketronic, and the Sharp QT-8B "micro Compet". Sharp put in great efforts in size and power reduction and introduced in January 1971 the Sharp EL-8, also marketed as the Facit 1111, which was close to being a pocket calculator. It weighed about one pound, had a vacuum fluorescent display, and rechargeable NiCad batteries. The first truly pocket-sized electronic calculator was the Busicom LE-120A "HANDY", which was marketed early in 1971.[88] Made in Japan, this was the first calculator to use an LED display, the first hand-held calculator to use a single integrated circuit (then proclaimed as a "calculator on a chip"), and the first electronic calculator to run off replaceable batteries. Using four AA-size cells, the LE-120A measures 4.9x2.8x0.9 in (124x72x24 mm).

Solar-powered calculator
With low power consumption came the possibility of using solar cells as the power source, realised around 1978 by the Sharp EL-8026.

Cameras

Camcorder
In 1982, Sony released the first professional camcorder, named the Betacam.

Digital camera
The first true digital camera that recorded images as a computerized file was the Fuji DS-1P, in 1988. It recorded to a 16 MB internal memory card that used a battery to keep the data in memory.

Digital single-lens reflex camera
On August 25, 1981 Sony unveiled a prototype of the first still video camera, the Sony Mavica. This camera was an analog electronic camera that featured interchangeable lenses and a SLR viewfinder. At Photokina in 1986, Nikon revealed a prototype analog electronic still SLR camera, the Nikon SVC, the first digital SLR. The prototype body shared many features with the N8008.[89] In 1999, Nikon announced the Nikon D1, the first DSLR to truly compete with, and begin to replace, film cameras in the professional photojournalism and sports photography fields. This camera was able to use current autofocus Nikkor lenses available at that time for the Nikon film series cameras, and was also able to utilize the older Nikon and similar, independent mount lenses designed for those cameras. A combination of price, speed, and image quality was the beginning of the end of 35 mm film for these markets.

Handheld electronic camera
Handheld electronic cameras, in the sense of a device meant to be carried and used like a handheld film camera, appeared in 1981 with the demonstration of the Sony Mavica (Magnetic Video Camera). This was an analog camera, in that it recorded pixel signals continuously, as videotape machines did, without converting them to discrete levels; it recorded television-like signals to a 2 × 2 inch Video Floppy. Analog electronic cameras do not appear to have reached the market until 1986 with the Canon RC-701. Canon demonstrated a prototype of this model at the 1984 Summer Olympics, printing the images in the Yomiuri Shimbun, a Japanese newspaper.


Domestic appliances

Electric rice cooker
Invented by designers at the Mitsubishi Electric Corporation in the late 1940s.[90]

RFIQin
An automatic cooking device, invented by Mamoru Imura and patented in 2007.

Electronics

Blue laser
Following the research of Professor Isamu Akasaki's group, the first commercially viable blue laser was invented by Shuji Nakamura while working at Nichia Corporation

Glass integrated circuit
Shunpei Yamazaki invented an integrated circuit made entirely from glass and with an 8-bit central processing unit.

Indium gallium nitride
Indium gallium nitride (InGaN) is a semiconductor invented by Shuji Nakamura.

Microprocessor
The world's first microprocessor, the Intel 4004, was designed by Masatoshi Shima of Busicom alongside Marcian Hoff and Federico Faggin.

Personal digital assistant
The first PDA is considered to be the Casio PF-3000 released in May 1983.

Plastic central processing unit
Shunpei Yamazaki invented a central processing unit made entirely from plastic

Videocassette recorder
The first machines (the VP-1100 videocassette player and the VO-1700 videocassette recorder) to use the first videocassette format, U-matic, was introduced by Sony in 1971.

Game controllers

Analog stick
In 1996, Nintendo introduced the first analog thumbstick on the Nintendo 64 controller. Since then, all major video game console controllers have included analog sticks.

D-pad
In 1982, Nintendo's Gunpei Yokoi elaborated on the idea of a circular pad, shrinking it and altering the points into the familiar modern "cross" design for control of on-screen characters in their Donkey Kong handheld game. It came to be known as the "D-pad".[94] The design proved to be popular for subsequent Game & Watch titles. This particular design was patented. In 1984, the Japanese company Epoch created a handheld game system called the Epoch Game Pocket Computer. It featured a D-pad, but it was not popular for its time and soon faded. Initially intended to be a compact controller for the Game & Watch handheld games alongside the prior non-connected style pad, Nintendo realized that Gunpei's design would also be appropriate for regular consoles, and Nintendo made the D-pad the standard directional control for the hugely successful Nintendo Entertainment System under the name "+Control Pad". All major video game consoles since have had a D-pad of some shape on their controllers.

Dance pad
The first dance pad was the Power Pad, a floor mat game controller for the Nintendo Entertainment System. It is a gray mat with twelve pressure-sensors embedded between two layers of flexible plastic. It was originally developed by Bandai

Force feedback
Introduced for game controllers by Nintendo's Rumble Pak, for the Nintendo 64 controller.

Motion-sensing controller
Invented by Nintendo for the Wii, the Wii Remote is the first controller with motion-sensing capability. It was a candidate for Time's Best Invention of 2006.

Metallurgy

Alnico
Alnico magnets were developed from the MKM steel invented by Tokuhichi Mishima.

KS steel
Kotaro Honda invented the KS steel (initials from Kichiei Sumitomo), which is a type of magnetic resistant steel that is three times more resistant than tungsten steel.

Magnetic steel
Kotaro Honda invented the KS steel, a type of magnetic resistant steel that is three times more resistant than tungsten steel. In 1931, Tokuhichi Mishima discovered that a strongly magnetic steel could be created by adding aluminum to non-magnetic nickel steel

MKM steel
An alloy containing nickel and aluminum, it was invented in 1931 by the Japanese metallurgist Tokuhichi Mishima. While conducting research into the properties of nickel, Mishima discovered that a strongly magnetic steel could be created by adding aluminum to non-magnetic nickel steel

Robotics

Android
The world's first android, DER 01, was developed by a Japanese research group, The Intelligent Robotics Lab, directed by Hiroshi Ishiguro at Osaka University, and Kokoro Co., Ltd. The Actroid is a humanoid robot with strong visual human-likeness developed by Osaka University and manufactured by Kokoro Company Ltd. (the animatronics division of Sanrio). It was first unveiled at the 2003 International Robot Exposition in Tokyo, Japan. The Actroid woman is a pioneer example of a real machine similar to imagined machines called by the science fiction terms android or gynoid, so far used only for fictional robots. It can mimic such lifelike functions as blinking, speaking, and breathing. The "Repliee" models are interactive robots with the ability to recognise and process speech and respond in kind.

Hybrid assistive limb
The HAL 5 is the first hybrid assistive limb, a powered exoskeleton suit currently in development by Tsukuba University of Japan.

Landmine-clearing robot
Shigeo Hirose is involved in work with the United Nations to develop a remotely controlled robot capable of clearing landmines.

Ninja robot
Invented by Shigeo Hirose, it is capable of climbing buildings and a seven-ton robot capable of climbing mountainous slopes with the aim of installing bolts in the ground so as to prevent landslides.

Storage technology

Blu-ray Disc
After Shuji Nakamura's invention of practical blue laser diodes,[102] Sony started two projects applying the new diodes: UDO (Ultra Density Optical) and DVR Blue (together with Pioneer), a format of rewritable discs which would eventually become the Blu-ray Disc.[

Compact Disc
Sony first publicly demonstrated an optical digital audio disc in September 1976. In September 1978, they demonstrated an optical digital audio disc with a 150 minute playing time, and with specifications of 44,056 Hz sampling rate, 16-bit linear resolution, cross-interleaved error correction code, that were similar to those of the Compact Disc they introduced in 1982.

Digital Audio Tape
A signal recording and playback medium developed by Sony in the mid 1980s.

DVD
The DVD optical disc format was developed by Sony alongside Philips.

Flash memory
Flash memory (both NOR and NAND types) was invented by Dr. Fujio Masuoka while working for Toshiba circa 1980. According to Toshiba, the name "flash" was suggested by Dr. Masuoka's colleague, Mr. Shoji Ariizumi, because the erasure process of the memory contents reminded him of a flash of a camera. Dr. Masuoka presented the invention at the IEEE 1984 International Electron Devices Meeting (IEDM) held in San Francisco, California.

Floppy disk
A Japanese inventor, Yoshiro Nakamatsu, invented the core floppy disk technology and, in 1952, registered a Japanese patent for his [1]. He later licensed 16 patents to IBM for the creation of the floppy disk.

Heat-assisted magnetic recording
HAMR was developed by Fujitsu in 2006 so that it could achieve one terabit per square inch densities.[

Memory card
The first flash memory card to be released was the JEIDA memory card by the Japan Electronic Industries Development Association.

Perpendicular recording
A technology for data recording on hard disks. It was first proven advantageous in 1976 by Shun-ichi Iwasaki, then professor of Tohoku University in Japan, and first commercially implemented in 2005.

Video cassette
In 1969, Sony introduced a prototype for the first video cassette, the 3/4" (1.905 cm) composite U-matic system, which Sony introduced commercially in September 1971 after working out industry standards with other manufacturers. Sony later refined it to Broadcast Video U-matic or BVU

Video Floppy
A video storage medium in the form of a 2" magnetic floppy disk used to store still frames of analog composite video. Video floppies were first developed by Sony in 1981 for their Mavica and later used by Panasonic and Canon for their still video cameras introduced in the late 1980s, such as the Canon Xapshot from 1988.

Timekeeping
A Seiko quartz wristwatch using the chronograph function (movement 7T92).

Quartz wristwatch
The world's first quartz wristwatch was revealed in 1967: the prototype of the Astron revealed by Seiko in Japan, where it was in development since 1958. It was eventually released to the public in 1969.[108] The inherent accuracy and low cost of production has resulted in the proliferation of quartz clocks and watches since that time. By the 1980s quartz technology had taken over applications such as kitchen timers, alarm clocks, bank vault time locks, and time fuzes on munitions, from earlier mechanical balance wheel movements.[

Quartz chronograph
Invented by Seiko in the 1970s.

Transport

Bullet train
The world's first high volume capable (initially 12 car maximum) "high-speed train" was Japan's Tōkaidō Shinkansen, that officially opened in October 1964, with construction commencing in April 1959.[109] The 0 Series Shinkansen, built by Kawasaki Heavy Industries, achieved maximum passenger service speeds of 210 km/h (130 mph) on the Tokyo–Nagoya–Kyoto–Osaka route, with earlier test runs hitting top speeds in 1963 at 256 km/h.

Dedicated high-speed rail lines
Japan was the first country to build dedicated railway lines for high speed travel. Because of the mountainous terrain, the existing network consisted of 3 ft 6 in (1,067 mm) narrow gauge lines, which generally took indirect routes and could not be adapted to higher speeds. Consequently, Japan had a greater need for new high speed lines than countries where the existing standard gauge or broad gauge rail system had more upgrade potential.

Electronically-controlled continuously variable transmission
In early 1987, Subaru launched the Justy in Tokyo with an electronically-controlled continuously variable transmission (ECVT) developed by Fuji Heavy Industries, which owns Subaru.

Kei car
A category of small automobiles, including passenger cars, vans, and pickup trucks. They are designed to exploit local tax and insurance relaxations, and in more rural areas are exempted from the requirement to certify that adequate parking is available for the vehicle. These standards originated in the times following the end of the Second World War, when most Japanese could not afford a full-sized car yet had enough to buy a motorcycle. To promote the growth of the car industry, as well as to offer an alternative delivery method to small business and shop owners, kei car standards were created.

Visual display units

Aperture grille
The first patented aperture grille televisions were manufactured by Sony in the late 1960s under the Trinitron brand name, which the company carried over to its line of CRT computer monitors. Subsequent designs, either licensed from Sony or manufactured after the patent's expiration, tend to use the -tron suffix, such as Mitsubishi's DiamondTron and ViewSonic's SonicTron. Today, Trinitron displays are still produced for markets such as Bangladesh, China, India and Pakistan.

Flat panel display
The first flat-panel displays were the flat CRTs used by Sony in their Watchman series (the FD-210 was introduced in 1982). One of the last flat-CRT models was the FD-120A. The CRT in these units was flat with the electron gun located roughly at right angles below the display surface thus requiring sophisticated electronics to create an undistorted picture free from effects such as keystoning.

Handheld colour television
In 1990, a color model of the Sony Watchman with an active-matrix LCD was released.

Handheld liquid crystal display television
In 1990, a color model of the Sony Watchman with an active-matrix LCD was released.

Liquid crystal display television
In 1988, Sharp Corporation introduced the first commercial LCD television, a 14" model.

Mechanical television
In the 1920s, the Japanese electrical scientist Yasujiro Niwa invented a simple device for phototelegraphic transmission through cable and later via radio, a precursor to mechanical television.

Plasma colour display
In 1992, Fujitsu introduced the world's first full-color plasma display. It was a hybrid, based upon the plasma display created at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and NHK STRL, achieving superior brightness.

Plasma television
In 1997, Pioneer released the first plasma television.

Pocket television
In 1982, Sony released the first television that could fit in a pocket: the Watchman; a pun on Walkman.

Weapons

Fire balloon
A fire balloon, or balloon bomb, was an experimental weapon launched by Japan from 1944 to 1945, during World War II.

Katana
The katana originated in the Muromachi period (1392–1573) as a result of changing battle conditions requiring faster response times. The katana facilitated this by being worn with the blade facing up, which allowed the samurai to draw and cut their enemy in a single motion. Previously, the curved sword of the samurai was worn with the blade facing down. The ability to draw and cut in one motion also became increasingly useful in the daily life of the samurai.

Shuriken
The earliest known mention of a school teaching shuriken-jutsu is Ganritsu Ryu, prevalent during the 1600s. There are also earlier mentions in written records, such as the Osaka Gunki (The Military Records of Osaka), of the standard knife and short sword being thrown in battle, and Miyamoto Musashi is said to have won a duel by throwing his short sword at his opponent, killing him.

Wireless transmission

Directional antenna
The first directional or beam antenna was the Yagi antenna, invented by Hidetsugu Yagi and Shintaro Uda in 1926.

High-gain antenna
The first high-gain antenna was also the Yagi antenna in 1926.

Yagi antenna
The Yagi-Uda antenna was invented in 1926 by Shintaro Uda of Tohoku Imperial University, Sendai, Japan, with the collaboration of Hidetsugu Yagi, also of Tohoku Imperial University. Yagi published the first English-language reference on the antenna in a 1928 survey article on short wave research in Japan and it came to be associated with his name. However, Yagi always acknowledged Uda's principal contribution to the design, and the proper name for the antenna is, as above, the Yagi-Uda antenna (or array).

Nice one Oakie and......If HD made Aeroplanes, would you fly in one ??

blackdog
15th March 2010, 19:16
What you hardly ever see is a Jap bike that has been traded sitting outside the harley/triumph dealer. I wonder if this is more due to the crap trade price offered or they get put on Trademe. Or is this form of cross-over between brands illegal? Surely there are plenty of Japanese cruisers traded on Harleys?

wholesaled to the right franchise dealer. a suzuki will sell easier and for more at a suzuki dealer than it will at a ducati shop as a rule

Armitage Shanks
15th March 2010, 19:20
Seems the most common Bike on the planet now is a Harley so...that;s the reason I'm a little different, escape the crowd and buy something else. Less weight , less rip-off at the till , better handling and twice the HP and, ......did I mention " Living the dream" haha...Harleys make me smile...

Oakie
15th March 2010, 19:22
I've been doing a little serious thinking about this and I reckon this anti-Japanese thing probably has it's genesis post WWII ... even though they didn't really get into bikes in a big way for years after. Possibly something to do with British and American ex soldier jingoism like "We won the war, how dare those little bastards come and sell their crappy little bikes here!" From there that attitide was passed down from father to son possibly in the way Holden/Ford is played out in Australia and to a lesser extent here in NZ. I came to this conclusion partly from my own dad who first was a Japanese prisoner of war for 4 years and then later in life managed a car sales business. When the Austin/Morris franchise took on a Honda franchise in around 1970 he refused to sell Hondas and was left just with the Austin/Morris division. Nothing to do with the quality of the product ... just he didn't want to be associated with Japanese product. He never said anything to me about the quality being bad but I guess if he had used that excuse to cover up his understandable but never expressed racism, it may well have rubbed off onto me.

Having now deeply thought this through I guess I don't really have a problem with some brand owners wanting their exclusive events if they see themselves as a 'brand X' rider before being a motorcyclist in general. My problem is really with owners who disparage other brands just because of the name on their tank or their country of origin. As someone else said, "a bike is a bike".

Oakie
15th March 2010, 19:24
Seems the most common Bike on the planet now is a Harley so.....

The most common bike over 1200cc I think it was.

Oakie
15th March 2010, 19:27
Nice one Oakie and......If HD made Aeroplanes, would you fly in one ??


Ummm. To be honest I'd probably rather not. I'm not sure why though.

Cayman911
15th March 2010, 19:33
I think if they resurrect Buell all will be good again. and the biker world will be at peace again.

it is really the best of both worlds. The middle ground

Big Dave
15th March 2010, 19:34
Ummm. To be honest I'd probably rather not. I'm not sure why though.

I hope it isn't because you have bought the KB myth that Harleys are unreliable. That's as bogus as the Hondas are gay wheeze.

The fact is that many Harleys are highly modified to boost performance. Thus they become less reliable with more stress on the standard components. This holds for any brand. If you keep a Hog relatively stock it's actually very reliable, economical and cheap to service. It's a design that has been around for a very long time and sold in very big numbers.

Oakie
15th March 2010, 19:44
I hope it isn't because you have bought the KB myth that Harleys are unreliable.

Nah, just that they're heavy really and I don't know if one would get off the ground.

Big Dave
15th March 2010, 19:44
I think if they resurrect Buell all will be good again. and the biker world will be at peace again.

it is really the best of both worlds. The middle ground

One of these days you can buy me beer and I'll tell you about the time Erik handed me his guitar. :-)

blackdog
15th March 2010, 19:45
I hope it isn't because you have bought the KB myth that Harleys are unreliable. That's as bogus as the Hondas are gay wheeze.

The fact is that many Harleys are highly modified to boost performance. Thus they become less reliable with more stress on the standard components. This holds for any brand. If you keep a Hog relatively stock it's actually very reliable, economical and cheap to service. It's a design that has been around for a very long time and sold in very big numbers.

as for the modified ones, wuz watching the drags on espn this arvo, taken out by a v-rod with a pass in about 6.2sec and 210mph

Big Dave
15th March 2010, 19:47
Nah, just that they're heavy really and I don't know if one would get off the ground.

XR1200X - No lear jet, but quite a joy flight.
Ultra Classic - be my choice if a round the world jaunt was on the agenda.

BIG DOUG
15th March 2010, 20:35
okay where do I start,I for one have never seen a japanese bike organized motorcycle poker run ,wouldn't worry me if I couldn't go and as for the Mothers mc race day I have attended these since 88 it is a good day out with 4 lap races, bikes are checked before you go on the track it is a fun day and to be honest I have seen less accidents there than at a vic club day,I got a friend to attend last year who has raced he said afterwards that he felt safer out there with a bunch of harley riders than at a vic club meeting and is fizzing to get out there this year Oh yeah and its only $20.00 to enter cheapest track day in new zealand lol. let the sparks fly.

Cayman911
15th March 2010, 20:39
One of these days you can buy me beer and I'll tell you about the time Erik handed me his guitar. :-)

Name the time n place. then we can start the process of scorin me a one of his machines :)

Swoop
15th March 2010, 20:57
Best to avoid that day entirely if ya can. Steel caps=bike boots. Leather vest=race suit. Denim jeans=knee sliders. Now ya might not think a harley rider had much call fo sliders, but quite a few of those guys crash, and there's a period of sliding along on the primary cover and left knee before the whales come to a stop.
:gob: You mean tassles are not there as a safety device??:scratch:











:shifty:

woodyracer
15th March 2010, 21:04
THE bottom line is, a ride without jappanese bikes would be very slow, as the harleys would have to stop and cool-down, and their riders would need to buy more mechandise everytime they see a harley dealer. Not to mention harley riders would need to follow the instructions of their manuel and hop off their bikes to push them around corners so they dont crash into a bank.

Got to love the FOS {fresh out the showroom} harley riders that have all the Gneuine harley gear..ahaahahaha

Anyway thats jsut my few laughs

blackdog
15th March 2010, 21:07
,I for one have never seen a japanese bike organized motorcycle poker run .

sunday social club annual wellington poker run

Virago
15th March 2010, 21:12
THE bottom line is, a ride without jappanese bikes would be very slow, as the harleys would have to stop and cool-down, and their riders would need to buy more mechandise everytime they see a harley dealer. Not to mention harley riders would need to follow the instructions of their manuel and hop off their bikes to push them around corners so they dont crash into a bank...

Just out of interest, how many Harleys have you ridden...? :blink:

Ixion
15th March 2010, 21:21
They have races for old bikes. Should the owner of a new GSXR1000 be aggrieved that he is ineligable to enter the classic races?

Indiana_Jones
15th March 2010, 22:02
They have races for old bikes. Should the owner of a new GSXR1000 be aggrieved that he is ineligable to enter the classic races?

I was thinking along those lines too.

"awww bro what do you mean my 1972 Datsun can't enter a veteran car rally"

-Indy

Berries
15th March 2010, 22:32
I'd like to see your list of favourite things French.

Inventions ?

2CV
Pernod
Parachute

Fuck, what a night that would have been.

Slyer
15th March 2010, 22:56
The Metric System.
QED

kwaka_crasher
15th March 2010, 23:59
The Metric System.

The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets 40 rods (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_(unit)) to the hogshead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogshead) and that's the way I likes it!

MaxB
16th March 2010, 00:00
Didn't the french invent hot air balooning and the guillotine?

Peugeot have been building small bikes since 1901. And they have the Bol D'or. And the food, wine and the women. So its not all bad.

Nonbeliever
16th March 2010, 08:01
the thing is,that owners/riders of BEARS bikes know deep down that they're on inferior machines and organising rides/events without asian machinery makes them feel good in the fact that theyre all on shit bikes.

If some twat wants to pay 30k+ for a badboy image and park it outside a pub allday then thats cool.

The best thing about thier bikes is that it keeps idiots of Japanese machines.

There are still people out there that won't own japanese bikes,or drive japanese cars in some sort of twisted statement.I think people like this are stuck in a time warp.

Headbanger
16th March 2010, 08:18
The best thing about their bikes is that it keeps idiots off Japanese machines.


:shit:

So, You've never actually been out on the road?

CookMySock
16th March 2010, 08:35
Some folk are so insecure in themselves that they simply MUST 'belong'. That way they have the security of an 'us' and 'other' situation.


It's a club that offers security and reassurance for people that don't like speed, reliability or handling if it's made in Japan.Curious that they need such security.

Steve

Big Dave
16th March 2010, 08:44
...................

MSTRS
16th March 2010, 09:13
Fuck, what a night that would have been.

Thank goodness they invented the condom, eh?

The Jap-thing is two-fold...
Firstly, the buying public back aways consisted of people who'd been directly affected by the Japs in WWII, and wanted nothing more to do with the 'slant-eyed devils'.
Secondly, Japanese goods' quality was generally poor in the 60s, leading to the term 'jap crap'. Even though this was largely over by the 70s, the idea had stuck. Bit the same as we (mostly) feel about stuff out of Korea, and most definitely about stuff out of China. Once a reputation exists, it is hard to change.

Slyer
16th March 2010, 09:36
Chinese goods exist to make Japanese goods look good.

ukusa
16th March 2010, 10:20
Saw a poker run and a rally posters (two different events) today. American, European and British bikes only. WTF? Racist cunts (and don't they realise Britain is part of Europe?)

It's my bike that's racist, not me !

What happens when an asian rides a Euro/American bike? Is he sleeping with the enemy?

Swoop
16th March 2010, 10:43
The best thing about thier bikes is that it keeps idiots of Japanese machines.
It also keeps bike theives gainfully occupied, stealing harleys. Hopefully diverting their attention from those "crap jap bikes".














Joke, people.

Bass
16th March 2010, 10:47
Someone once told me (I have no idea if it's true), that Kawasaki had considerable input into setting up the Triumph factory at Hinkley (sp).

If it is true, then it would be the ultimate irony for Bears enthusiasts, eh?

avgas
16th March 2010, 11:15
A; No , its a station wagon
B; Its not a race car
C; its an auto !!!
D; it was a company car
And its still better than my 2009 Ford Focus POS TDCi........horrible car.
Japanese quality is so much better than Euro.

Indiana_Jones
16th March 2010, 11:16
Someone once told me (I have no idea if it's true), that Kawasaki had considerable input into setting up the Triumph factory at Hinkley (sp).

If it is true, then it would be the ultimate irony for Bears enthusiasts, eh?

It's no secret that Mr. Bloor visted Japan and used their know how and ideas when setting up Triumph in the late 80's

In the same way Isuzu used helped from Wolseley in 20's

And 'Bears'? wtf is this, Convoy?

-Indy

Big Dave
16th March 2010, 11:21
Someone once told me (I have no idea if it's true), that Kawasaki had considerable input into setting up the Triumph factory at Hinkley (sp).

If it is true, then it would be the ultimate irony for Bears enthusiasts, eh?

When they were setting up, Triumph engineers visited the Kawa factory - amongst others - to inspect production line procedures.
Seems they got some good ideas - excepting fire prevention.

Hinckley.

Ixion
16th March 2010, 11:32
And 'Bears'? wtf is this, Convoy?

-Indy

British
European (Elbonian ??)
American
Russian ?? (Ruritanian ??)

Indiana_Jones
16th March 2010, 11:34
Seems they got some good ideas - excepting fire prevention.



Too soon?

-Indy

blackdog
16th March 2010, 11:34
British
European
American
RACERS

(i think):blink:

Big Dave
16th March 2010, 11:42
Too soon?

-Indy


Sorry - not with you - the Triumph factory burned down in ....2003? Google it.

Ixion
16th March 2010, 11:49
The *first* fire at the Triumph works was a preemptive strike by BMW. I guess the second one was only to be expected once they got mixed up with Kawasaki Heavy Industries. They made more than bikes' y'know.

Culprits: The first fire
http://www.kiwibikerco.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=200582
Culprits. the second fire. Who'd ahve thought they'd have had some of those still stashed away.

http://www.kiwibikerco.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=200581

Indiana_Jones
16th March 2010, 11:49
Sorry - not with you - the Triumph factory burned down in ....2003? Google it.

2002 I think.

.............too soon bro =[

-Indy

dogsnbikes
16th March 2010, 11:50
OH Im confused now...I have bears bike and Jap bikes does that mean I have split personalties..funk !!!! where's my medication:shutup:

the club I belong too is a bears club and Im the only one who does'nt have a harley(which I fink around 30% of the parts on them now are ex japan:shit:)

but if I remove the ONDA of the honda it fits in as it starts with a H and leaks oil its ok they cant read no good no how any way

Now back in time at the birth of the Motorcycle industry weren't most of the bikes powered wit J.A.P. power units wonder who made them:innocent:

Indiana_Jones
16th March 2010, 11:54
Anyways, why are we talking here?

To the human rights commission! (http://www.hrc.co.nz/home/default.php)

-Indy

Big Dave
16th March 2010, 11:59
The *first* fire at the Triumph works was a preemptive strike by BMW.

Represented by Messers Schmit, Hein, Kel and Co.

MSTRS
16th March 2010, 12:52
British
European (Elbonian ??)
American
Russian ?? (Ruritanian ??)

British
European
American
Racing
Series

scracha
16th March 2010, 19:41
okay where do I start,I for one have never seen a japanese bike organized motorcycle poker run ,wouldn't worry me if I couldn't go.

Is this true? None of the poker run organisers ride Japanese bikes eh?

sinned
16th March 2010, 20:14
Is this true? None of the poker run organisers ride Japanese bikes eh?
Got to ride a Harley to be in poker.

Flip
16th March 2010, 20:30
Have you thought that they just don't like jap bikes and that it is not personal?

Might have some thing to do with the original old school bikers being returned service men.

I know that my dad also doesn't like BMW's.

BIG DOUG
16th March 2010, 20:31
Hell I mean I always see posters for bears poker runs have yet to see a poster for a jap poker run there probably are but in my travels never seen one or rocked up somewhere and said to a large group of jap bike owners "what going on here then ,oh we are on a poker run " and this is after 30 years of road bike riding,might happen one day as I still have a few years left on the road.

Owl
16th March 2010, 20:55
If there was a Jappa only organised ride, what exactly would they do if the bad ass BEARS turned up?:shit:

tribsanor
16th March 2010, 21:12
If there was a Jappa only organised ride, what exactly would they do if the bad ass BEARS turned up?:shit:

probably tell their mum's !

wbks
16th March 2010, 21:16
Have you thought that they just don't like jap bikes and that it is not personal?

Might have some thing to do with the original old school bikers being returned service men.

I know that my dad also doesn't like BMW's.How many 75'ish+ bears riders do you see?...


If there was a Jappa only organised ride, what exactly would they do if the bad ass BEARS turned up?:shit:
Probably forget to wait up for them around the twisties?

Big Dave
16th March 2010, 21:30
the bad ass BEARS

If I was writing a comedy piece - that's its name - right there.

Maybe with some punctuation.

RDjase
16th March 2010, 22:06
They have races for old bikes. Should the owner of a new GSXR1000 be aggrieved that he is ineligable to enter the classic races?

On the same idea, Whats up with new(ish) Harleys in the Classic an Vintage section on trademe , Does them JUST being a HD make them colectable and special.....................

I think not

Owl
16th March 2010, 22:17
Probably forget to wait up for them around the twisties?

That wouldn't be very polite!:no:

The last non-jappa ride I attended, we stopped and waited for the Suzuki GT550. Of course, the ZX14 rider had no trouble keeping up. I think the only thing on the day considered offensive, was a hi-visibility vest:laugh:

Big Dave
16th March 2010, 22:31
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/11March10_BMWApriliaMasterB.html

Berries
16th March 2010, 22:32
On the same idea, Whats up with new(ish) Harleys in the Classic an Vintage section on trademe , Does them JUST being a HD make them colectable and special....................

Nah, just vintage.

MaxB
16th March 2010, 23:16
I ride BEARS and I ride Japanese. I have even been on BEARS style runs with my Kwak. Maybe they knew my other bike was being repaired ? Who cares?

One thing I noticed was a remarkable similarity between the blowhards in each group. Those who dish the crap are usually new or returning riders, newish bike with matching leathers and a limited no. of miles under their belts.

Doesn't matter whether its a Hog and a dude with boutique accessories or a Gixxer rider with matching leathers the 'I'm better than you' attitude is alive and well.

Pixie
17th March 2010, 00:56
Originally Posted by Lurch
Japs bikes are fucking shite. Gutless, unreliable, made by slanty eyed nepotists. Bloody japs and their bloody bikes.


Where is your Suzuki made SV1000 made?

irony
WOTD - 28 February 2008

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First attested in 1502. From Latin īrōnīa (perhaps via Middle French ironie), from Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία (eirōneia, “irony, pretext”) from εἴρων (eirōn, “one who feigns ignorance”).
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(RP) IPA: /ˈaɪə.rən.i/, SAMPA: /"aI@.r@n.I/
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irony (plural ironies)
A statement that, when taken in context, may actually mean the opposite of what is written literally; the use of words expressing something other than their literal intention, notably as a form of humor.
(colloquial) The quality or state of an event being both coincidental and contradictory in a humorous or poignant and extremely improbable way.
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statement that may mean the opposite of what is written literally
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From iron.
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irony (comparative more irony, superlative most irony)
Of or pertaining to the metal iron.
The food had an irony taste to it.
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of or pertaining to iron

wbks
17th March 2010, 06:40
Gixxer rider with matching leathers lol, sometimes you are just unlucky enough to buy a bike that matches your leathers

scracha
17th March 2010, 07:21
Hell I mean I always see posters for bears poker runs have yet to see a poster for a jap poker run there probably are but in my travels never seen one or rocked up somewhere and said to a large group of jap bike owners "what going on here then ,oh we are on a poker run " and this is after 30 years of road bike riding,might happen one day as I still have a few years left on the road.

Didn't say jap poker run....I said poker run organised by a chap (or lady) who rides a Japanese bike. Local poker run welcome for all bikes. Mind you....organiser rides a husky so technically it's not ran by a jap bike owner.

Ixion
17th March 2010, 08:51
That wouldn't be very polite!:no:

The last non-jappa ride I attended, we stopped and waited for the Suzuki GT550. ..

That was just self preservation. You knew that if you didn't, he'd blast past you on a wave of two smokey howlyness , and then asphyxiate you with his smoke. They don't call two smokers WMDs (Weapons of Motorcycle Destruction) for nothing

I've been on poker runs on Jappas. And on BMWs. Not a problem.

R-Soul
17th March 2010, 08:53
British
European
American
Racing
Series

So a run for the third place losers...
After Japan and Italy?

Ixion
17th March 2010, 09:06
So a run for the third place losers...
After Japan and Italy?

Bugger. Is Italy no longer in Europe? That's what they get for being so close to the Large Hadron Collider. I wonder what universe they've been shunted into, it's going to make spare parts for Ducatis pretty hard.

bogan
17th March 2010, 09:40
I ride BEARS and I ride Japanese.

Well I've heard of BEAR cavalry, but japanese cavalry is a whole new idea to me :mellow:

http://thxforthe.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/bear-cavalry.jpg

PuppetMaster
17th March 2010, 10:41
Old school. No japs or jews.

avgas
17th March 2010, 11:07
British
European
American
Racing
Series
So not half the members of YMCA then? Could have sworn I heard them talking about an Indian.

R-Soul
18th March 2010, 19:52
Bugger. Is Italy no longer in Europe? That's what they get for being so close to the Large Hadron Collider. I wonder what universe they've been shunted into, it's going to make spare parts for Ducatis pretty hard.

errrmm... blonde moment there...:slap:

although we will talk again in a few months when they run that LHC to top speed... :blink:

OK so battle for second place then...

Renegade
18th March 2010, 20:13
i find it strange that people go on about that "harley sound" when id argue that the original harley sound has all but been lost with the modern alloy motors etc etc noticably different from an old flat head or knuckle

scumdog
18th March 2010, 20:17
Who the hell would have a Jap bike anyway???

98tls
18th March 2010, 20:19
Who the hell would have a Jap bike anyway???

Well for starters anyone that had the misfortune to waste there hard earned on anything built by ducati in the late 80s bar an 851 and even then you could be excused.

R-Soul
18th March 2010, 20:23
i find it strange that people go on about that "harley sound" when id argue that the original harley sound has all but been lost with the modern alloy motors etc etc noticably different from an old flat head or knuckle


I get that Harley sound every morning straight after I get out of bed... or straight after my high fibre breakfast...

R-Soul
18th March 2010, 20:25
Old school. No japs or jews.

Remind me which club you belong to again? Because I would love to hang with your people... NOT

98tls
18th March 2010, 20:26
I get that Harley sound every morning straight after I get out of bed... or straight after my high fibre breakfast...

Funny you say that as i often confuse that sound with the sound of an approaching VTR:shifty:

Headbanger
18th March 2010, 20:44
Whats gay and rides a Jap bike?





About 80% of KB'er.






Muhahahahahahaha

R-Soul
18th March 2010, 20:46
Funny you say that as i often confuse that sound with the sound of an approaching TL:shifty:

No the VTR is a full blown fart - not a wet one..

jellywrestler
18th March 2010, 20:47
Whats gay and rides a Jap bike?





About 80% of KB'er.






Muhahahahahahaha
What's even Gayer and has already posted on Kiwibiker that he's put his bike away till warmer weather????


Headbanger

R-Soul
18th March 2010, 20:49
Whats gay and laughs at their own jokes?


About 80% of KB'er.



Muhahahahahahaha

nuff sed...

R-Soul
18th March 2010, 20:50
who the hell would have a jap bike anyway???

winnnnerrsssss!!! Yes!!! FTW!!!

98tls
18th March 2010, 20:53
Whats gay and rides a Jap bike?





About 80% of KB'er.






Muhahahahahahaha Whilst the other 20% ride big bore road bikes with a tampon for a fairing providing much mirth at 150 clicks until you decide to pass them not wanting to rely on the strength of there jacket manufacturers stitching to hold.

98tls
18th March 2010, 20:59
No the VTR is a full blown fart - not a wet one..

Again funny you say that,the VTRs launch was actually called a wet fart back in the day when Suzuki shat on there parade with the TL.

Headbanger
18th March 2010, 21:07
Whilst the other 20% ride big bore road bikes with a tampon for a fairing providing much mirth at 150 clicks until you decide to pass them not wanting to rely on the strength of there jacket manufacturers stitching to hold.

My nipples are made of concrete.

Insanity_rules
18th March 2010, 21:09
God I love this thread, Harley dudes bagin Jappas, Jappa's bagin Duc riders, everyone bagin Jappa riders, TL riders bagin VTR riders...... All the while I sit here all smug on my Duc. I've at one time owned a jappa sporty, a Harley and now my current (some say masochistic) Ducati fetish and its farkin hilarious how one eyed bikers can get.

98tls
18th March 2010, 21:14
God I love this thread, Harley dudes bagin Jappas, Jappa's bagin Duc riders, everyone bagin Jappa riders, TL riders bagin VTR riders...... All the while I sit here all smug on my Duc. I've at one time owned a jappa sporty, a Harley and now my current (some say masochistic) Ducati fetish and its farkin hilarious how one eyed bikers can get. :Punk:Tis fun for sure,i long ago left all that shit behind but these threads are well worthy of some trolling for sure.:shutup:That aside i stand by my comments on late 80s ducs and VTRs:shutup::wait::killingme

98tls
18th March 2010, 21:16
My nipples are made of concrete.

That must be hard on ya bras mate.

Headbanger
18th March 2010, 21:20
That must be hard on ya bras mate.

I'll get Quasi to make me a custom leather jobbie.....

Headbanger
18th March 2010, 21:23
God I love this thread, Harley dudes bagin Jappas, Jappa's bagin Duc riders, everyone bagin Jappa riders, TL riders bagin VTR riders...... All the while I sit here all smug on my Duc. I've at one time owned a jappa sporty, a Harley and now my current (some say masochistic) Ducati fetish and its farkin hilarious how one eyed bikers can get.

I'm all about tolerance and understanding.

I can understand not everyone can afford a premium brand of bike, I can understand not everyone has good taste in motorcycles, I can tolerate weird sexual preferences.


What I can't understand is the extreme weirdo's.....Honda riders.



Its got me fucked.




Muhahahahahaha

scumdog
18th March 2010, 21:26
I'm all about tolerance and understanding.

I can understand not everyone can afford a premium brand of bike, I can understand not everyone has good taste in motorcycles, I can tolerate weird sexual preferences.


What I can't understand is the extreme end of the wedge.....Honda riders.



Its got me fucked.

A Honda rider got you fucked?:shit:

Did it hurt?:shutup:

98tls
18th March 2010, 21:30
What I can't understand is the extreme end of the wedge.....Honda riders.



Its got me fucked.

For that mate you should be thankful,far easier than throwing money away on endless Opel Neras to A make fatty 20kg slimmer,B get you so pissed she still appears 20kg slimmer at 8am so as to have another go.

Indiana_Jones
18th March 2010, 21:30
<img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3595/3412906950_511fed3a73.jpg">

-Indy

Insanity_rules
18th March 2010, 21:31
A Honda rider got you fucked?:shit:

Did it hurt?:shutup:

Probably did, Honda riders tend to be prison shower types or bearded deviants LOL. Hey hang on I also own a Honda. I guess I'm the later.

Headbanger
18th March 2010, 21:35
Did it hurt?:shutup:


Emotionally.





.................................................. ........HA

Insanity_rules
18th March 2010, 21:38
Emotionally.



.................................................. ........HA

They don't call me Big Papa Smurf for nothing

jellywrestler
18th March 2010, 21:39
God I love this thread, Harley dudes bagin Jappas, Jappa's bagin Duc riders, everyone bagin Jappa riders, TL riders bagin VTR riders...... All the while I sit here all smug on my Duc. I've at one time owned a jappa sporty, a Harley and now my current (some say masochistic) Ducati fetish and its farkin hilarious how one eyed bikers can get.
yep ALL ON ASIAN COMPUTERS ....

Insanity_rules
18th March 2010, 21:43
yep ALL ON ASIAN COMPUTERS ....

Ironic isn't it?????

Big Dave
19th March 2010, 06:59
Whilst the other 20% ride big bore road bikes with a tampon for a fairing providing much mirth at 150 clicks until you decide to pass them not wanting to rely on the strength of there jacket manufacturers stitching to hold.


Fairings are gay. No, seriously. :-P

Dodgyiti
19th March 2010, 07:29
Funny you say that as i often confuse that sound with the sound of an approaching VTR:shifty:

Or a Guzzi.. same configuration as HD, but both cylinders get equal cooling, a far better idea than tucking one cyl behind the other.

:thud:

R-Soul
19th March 2010, 15:19
god i love this thread, harley dudes bagin jappas, jappa's bagin duc riders, everyone bagin jappa riders, tl riders bagin vtr riders...... All the while i sit here all smug on my duc. I've at one time owned a jappa sporty, a harley and now my current (some say masochistic) ducati fetish and its farkin hilarious how one eyed bikers can get.

you poser!!

R-Soul
19th March 2010, 15:21
Again funny you say that,the VTRs launch was actually called a wet fart back in the day when Suzuki shat on there parade with the TL.

And then went wide on the next corner...

Paul in NZ
19th March 2010, 16:19
Or a Guzzi.. same configuration as HD, but both cylinders get equal cooling, a far better idea than tucking one cyl behind the other.

:thud:

HD's are most definately NOT the same config as a Guzzi - you been on the meths again mate? Bloody aucklanders.... I dunno...

Besides - BEARS events are common place - who cares... There are girls only rides on KB... Plenty of 'idiots only' rides on Kb too... who cares...

Flip
19th March 2010, 18:03
Who the hell would have a Jap bike anyway???

I was in the Christchurch Square for one of those ACC protests and a little old Japanese tourist man came up to me and asked about the protest, then he said what a nice bike my Road King was and asked was it a Honda?...... OK he was probably blind and didn't speak brilliant english....... It's taken a few months to get over the shock.

Insanity_rules
19th March 2010, 19:17
you poser!!

I own a Ducati and a Honda.... Does that make me Bi-Sexual?


Plenty of 'idiots only' rides on Kb too...

I've been on one of those, didn't I see you there Paul roflmao!

fuknKIWI
20th March 2010, 20:42
There's no J in BEARS!:no:

Fucking A:bleh::bleh::bleh:

300weatherby
20th March 2010, 21:34
I ride a bears bike, 675 Daytona.... You and me pal, Ruapuna anytime you brave enough, turn up on anything you want......

Kickaha
20th March 2010, 21:36
I ride a bears bike, 675 Daytona.... .

You poor bastard, maybe we could all chip in and buy you something decent?

scracha
21st March 2010, 08:29
God I love this thread, Harley dudes bagin Jappas, Jappa's bagin Duc riders, everyone bagin Jappa riders, TL riders bagin VTR riders...... All the while I sit here all smug on my Duc. I've at one time owned a jappa sporty, a Harley and now my current (some say masochistic) Ducati fetish and its farkin hilarious how one eyed bikers can get.
Smug eh? Some guy on a red 748 passed me on the inside yesterday on the southern motorway. Think he was trying to show off but all I could think was "tink....get an 'r' or at least an 's'.

Metastable
21st March 2010, 09:07
Smug eh? Some guy on a red 748 passed me on the inside yesterday on the southern motorway. Think he was trying to show off but all I could think was "tink....get an 'r' or at least an 's'.

:D
September 2005 BIKE Magazine (UK), Greatest Cornering Bikes of all time issue also had a "worst section"
"Duacti 748R" R stands for Rubbish." was the quote.. :yes:

BTW, just because I ride a Honda, I don't really give a rats ass about Honda... I'd happily own a Ducati too.

Insanity_rules
21st March 2010, 13:42
Smug eh? Some guy on a red 748 passed me on the inside yesterday on the southern motorway. Think he was trying to show off but all I could think was "tink....get an 'r' or at least an 's'.

I would have thought the same thing! Spend that much and at least get a slightly special one.

pritch
21st March 2010, 16:09
So, considering that Harley D is reportedly for sale to the highest bidder, what happens to threads like this if Honda buys Harley?

Blackflagged
21st March 2010, 16:25
Saw a poker run and a rally posters (two different events) today. American, European and British bikes only. WTF? Racist cunts (and don't they realise Britain is part of Europe?).

How 'bout someone runs a rally for Jap & Korean bikes only?

Classic Register Racing is no Jap bikes.But there were Japanese riders, at the classic festival (No Problem).Theres probably B.E.A.R.s racing in Japan.Second biggest market for Harley and Ducati. So are Japanese bears racers racist?

scracha
21st March 2010, 18:26
:D
September 2005 BIKE Magazine (UK), Greatest Cornering Bikes of all time issue also had a "worst section"
"Duacti 748R" R stands for Rubbish." was the quote.. :yes:

I had a few gripes about my 748r including how pointless it was on shitty NZ roads but I can't see how anyone could say it's cornering was rubbish (ok..perhaps with me riding it).

Big Dave
21st March 2010, 18:33
So, considering that Harley D is reportedly for sale to the highest bidder, what happens to threads like this if Honda buys Harley?

Not what I hear. My oil is Harley are looking for an equity finance partner so they can do more of the low deposit finance that got them into trouble in the first place.

wbks
21st March 2010, 19:10
I had a few gripes about my 748r including how pointless it was on shitty NZ roads but I can't see how anyone could say it's cornering was rubbish (ok..perhaps with me riding it).
What was that like compared to a sport600?

scumdog
21st March 2010, 20:15
Just finished reading a '77 Iron Horse magazine and there was an article about those anti-Jap bike which pointed out that those same people were happy to use Hitachi - Sanyo - Toyota - etc without batting an eye.

Same shit all those years ago eh!

scracha
21st March 2010, 21:02
What was that like compared to a sport600?
Hard to say. Can't compare to my ZX-6 as it's had a lot of aftermarket stuff done and it's 5 years younger. Compared to an 03 CBR600 I'd say the 748r handles better, has more power everywhere, wastes it on the brakes and the slipper clutch is a gawd-send. Seems slower to turn in but way more stable and easier to get on the gas. Off the track it's a real no compromise bike (hates bumps, additional oil cooler prone to stones and the magazine reviews actually understate just how bloody uncomfortable it is) and you'd have to be an enthusiast to commute on it. So I'm guessing my old year 2000 748r would piss all over a stock year 2000 Japanese 600.....and at the price so it bloody well should. Modern 600's would make it look silly though. Did I mention the looks and sound though? A set of termi's and you've got sex on wheels.

wbks
22nd March 2010, 06:52
you'd have to be an enthusiast to commute on it.....Did I mention the looks and sound though? A set of termi's and you've got sex on wheels.
You sound like you are one. Why haven't I seen this beast around paeroa?

Big Dave
22nd March 2010, 07:00
Just finished reading a '77 Iron Horse magazine

Slow reader huh.

Brian d marge
22nd March 2010, 13:04
I had a bike in that mag many years ago , back when snow was the editor

it was a triumph chop I built from bits I found

a project I will do again ,,,

Stephen

avgas
22nd March 2010, 14:01
I ride a bears bike, 675 Daytona.... You and me pal, Ruapuna anytime you brave enough, turn up on anything you want......
That's a pretty bold claim don't you think. While the 675 is a great bike, I could think of a couple of dozen bikes that would slaughter it.
Sadly I own none right now.
Anyone wanna loan me an FZ1? Z1000?

avgas
22nd March 2010, 14:02
My nipples are made of concrete.
Really, I just thought it colder and you stopped riding.....

lankyman
22nd March 2010, 17:52
Saw a poker run and a rally posters (two different events) today. American, European and British bikes only. WTF? Racist cunts (and don't they realise Britain is part of Europe?).

How 'bout someone runs a rally for Jap & Korean bikes only?

Never mind the fact that their American bikes are manufactured in Japan.
Reminds me of the way that terrorists deny the fact that their Islam comes from the same roots as Christianity....

scracha
23rd March 2010, 20:30
You sound like you are one. Why haven't I seen this beast around paeroa?
Would you take a Ducati to Paeroa.....

Joking....

Nah...sold it to get the ZX-6 and most of the TDM. Kinda regret it but I'm 6ft4, couldn't afford to race it and couldn't be arsed living with it on our shitty gravelly low speedl imited roads.

wbks
23rd March 2010, 20:49
Would you take a Ducati to Paeroa.....

Joking....

Nah...sold it to get the ZX-6 and most of the TDM. Kinda regret it but I'm 6ft4, couldn't afford to race it and couldn't be arsed living with it on our shitty gravelly low speedl imited roads.haha I wouldn't park my ratty gixxer in the township, fair point.

carver
28th March 2010, 20:12
so my vespa is ok then?

Big Dave
28th March 2010, 20:16
so my vespa is ok then?

I reckon it is. Eye tie and all. Bring it along. Real welcome. You'll enjoy the entertainment too.


Seriously - I treat Vespas like big skateboards and have a phat time on them. Re-entries off judder bars.

I had a go on the Biaggi replica 50cc Aprilia a while ago. Hugus fun.

carver
28th March 2010, 21:03
I reckon it is. Eye tie and all. Bring it along. Real welcome. You'll enjoy the entertainment too.


Seriously - I treat Vespas like big skateboards and have a phat time on them. Re-entries of judder bars.

I had a go on the Biaggi replica 50cc Aprilia a while ago. Hugus fun.

I love my DR for tooling around on....
give me a modded scooter for a laugh anyday though

davebullet
28th March 2010, 21:21
British have to be separated, otherwise BEARS would become EARS.

Imagine saying "Honey, I'm just going out to an EARS race meet". Doesn't quite have the same ring.

However, if we take the mighty Hyosung (Korea) and out favourite jappa brands - we can put "K" and "J" in our own series...

How-about the Japanese East-asian Russian Korean series (JERKS for short).

gatch
28th March 2010, 22:09
Hmm I think the universe must be telling me something. My last 2 bikes have been vee engined hondas.

scracha
29th March 2010, 07:51
How-about the Japanese East-asian Russian Korean series (JERKS for short).

Fail. Russia is in Europe.

avgas
29th March 2010, 07:57
Fail. Russia is in Europe.
Or vice versa depending on your perspective

Big Dave
29th March 2010, 09:40
Russia is also in Asia.

Beeza
29th March 2010, 09:44
"Hinckley" Triumph Bonnevilles/Thruxtons aren't made in England. They're ALL made in Thailand.

Beeza
29th March 2010, 09:56
Only the Japs have, so far, built an across-the-frame air-cooled OHC four. In fact, they were commonly known as "universal Japanese motorcycles" in the early 1980s. Smooth, fast, oil-tight and reliable and pretty inexpensive. (CB750-4 etc)

Only the Japs have built any across-the-frame aircooled two-stroke triple road bike. (KH Kawasakis)

Only the Japs have made a water-cooled 90 degree V-twin with shaft drive (CX500/650 Honda)

They couldn't have copied them from anyone.

SPman
29th March 2010, 14:01
Went to a Japanese only bike show yesterday - and bloody good it was, as well - classics, customs, cruisers, rat bikes, racers - all great, all Jap! Rapid Bike had a stand there, as well.

MSTRS
29th March 2010, 14:20
Only the Japs have, so far, built an across-the-frame air-cooled OHC four. In fact, they were commonly known as "universal Japanese motorcycles" in the early 1980s. Smooth, fast, oil-tight and reliable and pretty inexpensive. (CB750-4 etc)

Only the Japs have built any across-the-frame aircooled two-stroke triple road bike. (KH Kawasakis)

Only the Japs have made a water-cooled 90 degree V-twin with shaft drive (CX500/650 Honda)

They couldn't have copied them from anyone.

The Japs had a reputation for taking existing designs and ideas, and improving them. The Japs seldom, if ever, come up with something unseen before.
If you can make something that works, and does the job it promises, with reliability, why would you want to innovate?
WRT to inline multis, Benelli were the first with an inline6 (discounting Honda's 2 stroke GP bike in the 60s)

SPman
29th March 2010, 14:52
202099202100202101202102202103

Well - these are all Jappas.......

(why is that first photo full size?)

jim.cox
29th March 2010, 15:24
Only the Japs have, so far, built an across-the-frame air-cooled OHC four.

Sorry - you're wrong there - Benelli also did

bmwilly
29th March 2010, 15:28
Also MV Agusta

Big Dave
29th March 2010, 15:45
I'm currently having a Miso soup in a Triumph mug.

gatch
29th March 2010, 15:49
Sorry - you're wrong there - Benelli also did

Yer, I know they did a 400. It is probably the best sounding IL4 I've ever heard, bar none.

McJim
29th March 2010, 16:10
Funny how many people that ride Jappas were protesting against the Jap whalers when they got rammed by Pete Bufoon and his Earthrace. :rofl:

I used to be excluded by Jap riders on organised rides. They would twist the throttle until they reached speeds that my old Ducati couldn't achieve and leave me behind. So the exclusivity works both ways Scracha you wee tartan Scots git. :Pokey:

peasea
29th March 2010, 16:20
Funny how many people that ride Jappas were protesting against the Jap whalers when they got rammed by Pete Bufoon and his Earthrace. :rofl:

I used to be excluded by Jap riders on organised rides. They would twist the throttle until they reached speeds that my old Ducati couldn't achieve and leave me behind. So the exclusivity works both ways Scracha you wee tartan Scots git. :Pokey:

It's all good humour isn't it? The moment someone climbs into a Jap bike someone who owns one will climb into the Harleys and so on ad infinitum.

Imagine if the Scots made motorcycles! Tartan paint for the new Rupert McDavidson.

Bikemad
29th March 2010, 16:28
"Hinckley" Triumph Bonnevilles/Thruxtons aren't made in England. They're ALL made in Thailand.

then how come i saw a couple of new bonnies and the scrambler models on the Hinckley Factory line in 07.......has something changed

MSTRS
29th March 2010, 17:31
Imagine if the Scots made motorcycles! .

They tried...once.
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/82091083.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF8789215ABF3343C02EA548121A971530F5F622 87936540134DE31A2A05C9C7CDA000EB
Nobody could figure out that studded tyres were needed. Cold there, you see...

peasea
29th March 2010, 18:25
They tried...once.
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/82091083.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF8789215ABF3343C02EA548121A971530F5F622 87936540134DE31A2A05C9C7CDA000EB
Nobody could figure out that studded tyres were needed. Cold there, you see...

They coulda used thistles.

scracha
29th March 2010, 19:22
Imagine if the Scots made motorcycles! Tartan paint for the new Rupert McDavidson.
http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/viewimage.html?oid=29427&i=45935

http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/cld.html?cid=533733

From memory they make motorcycles to this day in Edinburgh

peasea
29th March 2010, 19:24
http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/viewimage.html?oid=29427&i=45935

http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/cld.html?cid=533733

From memory they make motorcycles to this day in Edinburgh

OMG, that's technology for ya!

SPman
29th March 2010, 20:35
Is this the same Beardmore, that used to make airplane motors?

Pixie
30th March 2010, 07:55
Sorry - you're wrong there - Benelli also did

Also Moto-Guzzi

And Benelli did a transverse straight six

Ixion
30th March 2010, 09:40
Is this the same Beardmore, that used to make airplane motors?

Yes. And car and truck motors.

Wasn't Clyno Scottish ?

Blackflagged
3rd April 2010, 14:27
Quote:

Only the Japs have, so far, built an across-the-frame air-cooled OHC four. In fact, they were commonly known as "universal Japanese motorcycles" in the early 1980s. Smooth, fast, oil-tight and reliable and pretty inexpensive. (CB750-4 etc)

Only the Japs have built any across-the-frame aircooled two-stroke triple road bike. (KH Kawasakis)

Only the Japs have made a water-cooled 90 degree V-twin with shaft drive (CX500/650 Honda)

They couldn't have copied them from anyone.



End Quote.

As you know :-) one example

MV 750 Sport America, 750cc, Transverse Double O.H.C. 4 Cylinder, 1973-77

Race fans around the world dreamed of--actually lusted after--one of these Italian fire engines, which together with the Gilera 4 cylinder racer had toppled Norton from its long held position of World Champion. After repeated rumors, they finally made it available in road form, and those fortunate enough to sample one never forgot the incredible sounds of those four exhaust pipes as well as the motor's long train of straight cut gears. The Japanese later copied the layout, typically improving upon a proven design by employing a chain for the drive to the topside camshafts, which had the effect of reducing engine noise and weight, as well as manufacturing cost.

Don`t think the benelli production 250/4 was ohc, and the pre war one was watercooled, so that rules it out!

CX500 Copy of a V50 Guzzi, watercooled but that was nothing new!

Japan did do some firsts later though (And i`m sure still are) in particular Yamaha.

New R1 sounds quite good! and they fit good brakes sometimes also.

Suzuki didn`t make production 4 strokes till about 1976.

The first DOHC engines were in 1919 Bently

One day lifan may win motogp