Marshals needed for Nationals

[prettybillie]

Hey all

As you know we are running nationals at Hampton downs on the 27th and 28th of March. Previously when running races at Puke we needed about 18 marshals...for Hampton we need an absolute minimum of 31 and preferably 52!!

If anyone is about to come out and marshal for us - doesn't need to be both days - you will get close up action of the racing, we will feed and water you and also throw in some petrol vouchers for your travel.

If you can help us out to make this meet awesome flick me a PM.

Cheers
PB

[R6_kid]

Why so many? HD Ride days gets by with 1 person per point and an effective cleanup/pickup team. Surely even running three marshals per post you'd only need 24?

[scrivy]

Why so many? HD Ride days gets by with 1 person per point and an effective cleanup/pickup team. Surely even running three marshals per post you'd only need 24?

So many blind corners from race control.
Race events are totally different from ride days. You have huge potential for high speed crashing at race events, but not so much at ride days.

[Devil]

Can see (and warn) the entire track at HD from 6 marshal points. No blind spots.

[scrivy]

Can see (and warn) the entire track at HD from 6 marshal points. No blind spots.

I raced there back at the classic meeting in Feb. From a racers perspective - I'd use more marshalls too.
Going into turn 1 the whole corner is blind. Out of turn 2 the turn 3 corner is blind, up the hill into turn 5, the hairpins blind. Imagine a pack of 6 superbikes (or 600's) nose to tail and beside each other, are you going to be able to look across and see each flag point? At HD, you simply need alot more flags and marshalls.

Just my opinion.

[Devil]

I raced there back at the classic meeting in Feb. From a racers perspective - I'd use more marshalls too.
Going into turn 1 the whole corner is blind. Out of turn 2 the turn 3 corner is blind, up the hill into turn 5, the hairpins blind. Imagine a pack of 6 superbikes (or 600's) nose to tail and beside each other, are you going to be able to look across and see each flag point? At HD, you simply need alot more flags and marshalls.

Just my opinion.
I see what you're saying (and i'm all for the safety perspective), but we've run at least 15 motorcycle events there now with no sight issues (good radio comms between points and course control). Thats what my comments are based on. We've only moved one marshal point (T1) to a better spot.

(FYI - I wasn't at the classic meeting however and dont know what they did about marshal points...)

[kittytamer]

MNZ have stated that 31 marshalls will be required for the meeting to go ahead. So I guess that's that then.

[Devil]

Will be interested to see where they put them...

[prettybillie]

You've got it in one Kitty! We do what the bosses tell us...but as alluded to here the more marshals that better!

[woodyracer]

think the main reason i personaly wouldnt want to marshel is because id be spending my whole day one point of the track for "nothing" realy.......make it worth peoples while......the TRRS gives the marshels $80 a day!!, and guess what they have enough within a few days.

Lets be honest marsheling isnt fun as watching and moving around the track,

Just an idea. -Max

[quickbuck]

think the main reason i personaly wouldnt want to marshel is because id be spending my whole day one point of the track for "nothing" realy

I would hardly call Petrol Vouchers "Nothing".
Lunch isn't cheap if you have to buy your own either....

As for me, I have to see how my life has panned out in the next two weeks before I can commit to going.....
Would love to though...

[White trash]

think the main reason i personaly wouldnt want to marshel is because id be spending my whole day one point of the track for "nothing" realy.......make it worth peoples while......the TRRS gives the marshels $80 a day!!, and guess what they have enough within a few days.

Lets be honest marsheling isnt fun as watching and moving around the track,

Just an idea. -Max


80 bucks each day? That's Seven and a half K to the required # of marshals over the weekend. Add the cost of hiring H/Downs for three days, and then the fact theres 45 bikes entered. Suppose AMCC should just go pick some more off the money tree out the back?

[jellywrestler]

Lets be honest marsheling isnt fun as watching and moving around the track,

Top attitude Mr Woodyracer I'm picking you load your truck, go to a race meeting, reload and moan all the way home about the way it was run and how much it cost yet will never lift a finger to help.
If a whole days not your style why not volunteer for a half day?

[scrivy]

Top attitude Mr Woodyracer I'm picking you load your truck, go to a race meeting, reload and moan all the way home about the way it was run and how much it cost yet will never lift a finger to help.
If a whole days not your style why not volunteer for a half day?

Unfortunately though Spyda, that's what most people do nowadays in any sport. How many meetings have you gone to, and by the end of the 2 days, there is tons of rubbish left in the pits, messes everywhere, and no one bothers to help clean up, they just hop in their vehicles and drive off. I've always wondered why clubs do what they do for the enjoyment of others.

[Skunk]

Selfish attitude Max. What do you want to pay for the racing you do? $290 to enter, PLUS $70 for the marshals (that's 31 marshals vs 45 entries; and don't forget the other people running their arses off on the day too - grid staff, office people, scrutinteers, and general helpers), plus the transponder. Nice to have pocketloads of money like you, eh.
I'll prepare a 'special price' entry form since you're so keen to help finance the clubs so they can pay for marshals.
Give something back to the sport occasionally.
Our marshals are like gold and we treat them as good as we can. We'd love to give them what they're worth but we can't afford to.

[coffeejunkie]

I tend to agree with you Skunk and i'd like to add that you (vic club) & the pacific club treat all your helpers wounderfully......Yes i can say that as i'm grid help:yes:, Even tho i belong to no group i put my hand up to help, The more marshalls the better the safety is really

At the end of the day if you don't have the help then you don't have the race events.

[woodyracer]

Selfish attitude Max. What do you want to pay for the racing you do? $290 to enter, PLUS $70 for the marshals (that's 31 marshals vs 45 entries; and don't forget the other people running their arses off on the day too - grid staff, office people, scrutinteers, and general helpers), plus the transponder. Nice to have pocketloads of money like you, eh.
I'll prepare a 'special price' entry form since you're so keen to help finance the clubs so they can pay for marshals.
Give something back to the sport occasionally.
Our marshals are like gold and we treat them as good as we can. We'd love to give them what they're worth but we can't afford to.

Youve miss understood my post, i said "personly" that means i would...not you would, i know there is people out there who want to marshel for free, and that great, but not everyone does.


I dont moan about race meetings on the way home, every meeting ive ever been to has been well organised and thought through.
Volenteers are important, but i was tlaking about myself, i have other things to do, ive got ncea school exams,raicng ect, if it dosnt pay to make my racing cheaper, then i wouldnt do it.

I was going to marshel at Hampton downs nationals, but now they are running a streetstock class. Its all nice for you guys to sit on your computors and bitch about helping for free but how many of you do it??, ive marsheled a few times now,so yes i do help clubs out!

[Squiggles]

Including this in an email out to all the Uni members, hopefully get a few who can

[Skunk]

Youve miss understood my post, i said "personly" that means i would...not you would, i know there is people out there who want to marshel for free, and that great, but not everyone does.
Volenteers are important, but i was tlaking about myself, i have other things to do, ive got ncea school exams,raicng ect, if it dosnt pay to make my racing cheaper, then i wouldnt do it.
Its all nice for you guys to sit on your computors and bitch about helping for free but how many of you do it??, ive marsheled a few times now,so yes i do help clubs out!I have many other things to do too. But I spend (on average) 3-4 hours a night putting into racing for others. How many hours do you think these "well run" meetings take? If you have time to race - you have time to help. BTW: Volunteering means for free.

[Yow Ling]

They need to ad F4 to the programme, it is after all the premiere class. That would easily double the numbers from 45 to at least 90 and only need to run 1 extra race. One big bucket race has as many entries as the whole National series , mmm something wrong here !

[woodyracer]

They need to ad F4 to the programme, it is after all the premiere class. That would easily double the numbers from 45 to at least 90 and only need to run 1 extra race. One big bucket race has as many entries as the whole National series , mmm something wrong here !

thats not guarented......just cos the TRRS gets 45 entires dosnt mean the hampton downs nats would.......