Who's Dis Guy (the motorbike video one) - go on fess up

[aprilia_RS250]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/3448521/Truck-cameras-capture-appalling-driving

[Genie]

well that's a little bit scarey to watch, glad he made it. Had a friend once, he's dead now, did the same thing and it didn't work out, clipped a wing mirror.

[R6_kid]

Umm, he was on his side of the road and inside the centre line. The pass on the van isn't too dodgy.

Not the smartest place to be passing, but relatively inside the law.

[paturoa]

Umm, he was on his side of the road and inside the centre line. The pass on the van isn't too dodgy.

Not the smartest place to be passing, but relatively inside the law.

Your kidding right?

Just another fucking retard taking excessive risks for the sake of a few seconds.

[sinned]

I have seen a few passing just like that. It is fairly common.

[centaurus]

I'm sorry but I see nothing wrong with that overtaking. Yes, it's a bit close but it's not as dangerous as people make it sound like, especially that the guys looks like he is in control and he is not even going over the centre line.

And as far as rubbish trucks go, who is going to film them when they drive on the wrong side of the road around blind corners (here in Wgtn it happens regularly in the suburbs). I've had a few close calls on my bike with rubbish trucks because of that. Putting cameras on rubbish trucks to catch drivers misbehaving is the biggest hypocrisy ever.

[paturoa]

I have seen a few passing just like that. It is fairly common.


I'm sorry but I see nothing wrong with that overtaking.

Gene-o-clean (TM - htcher?)

[vindy500]

That passings fine.

[Ronin]

Coming back from wrong side of the yellow line is fine then?

[Toaster]

Coming back from wrong side of the yellow line is fine then?

Ignoring the oncoming traffic issue, the broken yellow no-passing is there to require that you complete your overtaking move BEFORE the continuous double yellow line that inevitably follows.

Appears fine from that regard.

[Headbanger]

Looks fine to me, Personally I'm not overly concerned with yellow lines if I can see the road ahead. The bike passes the truck, waits for the two oncoming wagons to pass, then the bike passes the car in front.

[Deano]

Coming back from wrong side of the yellow line is fine then?

Yellow lines are just yellow lines. They indicate a legal compliance, and are not necessarily a good indicator of safety. The video looks a bit on the close side for me, but it's hard tell - might be my internet speed or the video quality.

There are plenty of places with yellow lines that are still very safe for a bike to overtake on.

The Takas have been pretty much ruined for bikes because of them.

[sosman]

man there are some poofters on here!

[paturoa]

That passings fine.


Appears fine from that regard.

You gotta be trolling....

Have a close look at Ronin's frame grab and tell me about the avoiding action the 4wd cager is doing coming the other way.

Now lets do a imagine.... lets imagine that you are the cager coming the other way, but you are on your bike and have to swerve to the left, over the shoulder marking, cos some retard in a cage is doing what the retard on the bike is doing? Is your opinion the same?

[Toaster]

You gotta be trolling....

Have a close look at Ronin's frame grab and tell me about the avoiding action the 4wd cager is doing coming the other way.

Now lets do a imagine.... lets imagine that you are the cager coming the other way, but you are on your bike and have to swerve to the left, over the shoulder marking, cos some retard in a cage is doing what the retard on the bike is doing? Is your opinion the same?

Read my post properly. I was talking only about his position in relation to the broken yellow line, not the vehicles around him. I dont troll.

[Ronin]

Ignoring the oncoming traffic issue, the broken yellow no-passing is there to require that you complete your overtaking move BEFORE the continuous double yellow line that inevitably follows.

Appears fine from that regard.

I stand (well, lounge on sofa with beer) corrected.

[Headbanger]

You gotta be trolling....

Have a close look at Ronin's frame grab and tell me about the avoiding action the 4wd cager is doing coming the other way.


He is over-reacting, The bike has passed the truck and well out of the line of fire before the car closes the gap.

[paturoa]

man there are some poofters on here!

If riding to survive is being a poofa, then I'm proud of that. I'm sure my wife and children will be quite happy that I'm a poofta too.

.... so just to complete the logic of that, the dead peeps who don't post any more, or never got a chance to even join, aren't pooftas then??????

[Ronin]

You gotta be trolling....

Have a close look at Ronin's frame grab and tell me about the avoiding action the 4wd cager is doing coming the other way.

Now lets do a imagine.... lets imagine that you are the cager coming the other way, but you are on your bike and have to swerve to the left, over the shoulder marking, cos some retard in a cage is doing what the retard on the bike is doing? Is your opinion the same?

Mr Toaster is right, we were only talking about the yellow line and, well, to be honest I was wrong.

You are right and wrong, in regards to the traffic he is in my opinion being a bit of a cock (are we allowed to say cock now if we use opinion?, Don't want to go international) and I wouldn't do that pass.

Nothing in Toasters post even remotely troll like.

[Ronin]

Yellow lines are just yellow lines. They indicate a legal compliance, and are not necessarily a good indicator of safety. The video looks a bit on the close side for me, but it's hard tell - might be my internet speed or the video quality.

There are plenty of places with yellow lines that are still very safe for a bike to overtake on.

The Takas have been pretty much ruined for bikes because of them.

Yup, they are painful indeed now.

[paturoa]

Ignoring the oncoming traffic issue, .....


Read my post properly. I was talking only about his position in relation to the broken yellow line, not the vehicles around him. I dont troll.

Ah, yes, I stand corrected and retract.

However, not ignoring the on-coming traffic...

[Ender EnZed]

Putting cameras on rubbish trucks to catch drivers misbehaving is the biggest hypocrisy ever.

The cameras are there so the company can keep an eye on how their drivers are behaving. Filming other drivers misbehaving is incidental.

[paturoa]

Mr Toaster is right, we were only talking about the yellow line and, well, to be honest I was wrong.

You are right and wrong, in regards to the traffic he is in my opinion being a bit of a cock (are we allowed to say cock now if we use opinion?, Don't want to go international) and I wouldn't do that pass.

Nothing in Toasters post even remotely troll like.

Agree, I was reading more then was typed.

I'm using the term "retard" instead of "cock". Is that OK? That cock on the morning TV show got a bollocking for saying that the singer woman looked like a retard. So I guess either was I'm a cock.

[Toaster]

I stand (well, lounge on sofa with beer) corrected.

Funny you should say that. Doing the same thing! Time for beer #2.... cheers!

[bogan]

I wonder why the bike incident was even recorded, truck didnt need to swerve or brake. While it looks legal-ish, I reckon a cop would have found something to ticket hime for if there was one round, dangerous driving most like

[paturoa]

He is over-reacting, The bike has passed the truck and well out of the line of fire before the car closes the gap.

Run the vid again and pause it at 6 seconds (use the slider along the botton if you have to) now slide it along 1 second later and see how far past the bike is from the first cage.

At 6 secs the bike is on the wrong side of the road just in front of the truck, and the cager is taking avoiding action, at 7 secs the bike is now well past the first cage and is near past the white van.

So if your definition of "well out of the line" is less than 0.5 secs then yeah OK, however mine isn't.

[Toaster]

Another road they ruined was around the Pauatahanui Inlet on the Whitby side (south). Double yellow all the way and a waste of a good winding biker road.

[bogan]

Run the vid again and pause it at 6 seconds (use the slider along the botton if you have to) now slide it alone 1 second later and see how far past the bike is from the first cage.

actually looking again, his wheels are on the yellow line there, so no way his bars/elbows are on his side of the road, so not legal imo

[paturoa]

Funny you should say that. Doing the same thing! Time for beer #2.... cheers!

Hurry up!

10chr

[paturoa]

actually looking again, his wheels are on the yellow line there, so no way his bars/elbows are on his side of the road, so not legal imo

Yeah agree, from the legal pov, isn't there a 100 meter requirement?

[paturoa]

Another road they ruined was around the Pauatahanui Inlet on the Whitby side (south). Double yellow all the way and a waste of a good winding biker road.

Agree agian, there are several roads where I happily overtale over double yellows, with hundreds of meters of clear visibility. Over zealous use of the yellow is encourging retards to overtake in crazy places where the use of yellow is warranted.

[sinned]

I wonder why the bike incident was even recorded, truck didnt need to swerve or brake. While it looks legal-ish, I reckon a cop would have found something to ticket hime for if there was one round, dangerous driving most like
From the fuss made one could conclude there a lots of incidents, however the incidents shown on the program indicate otherwise. It appears there are few incidents worthy of reporting - I did like the BMW car one though and bet that is the best they have got.

[bogan]

Agree agian, there are several roads where I happily overtale over double yellows, with hundreds of meters of clear visibility. Over zealous use of the yellow is encourging retards to overtake in crazy places where the use of yellow is warranted.

and then they stop just before a blind rise or something, hey no yellow lines i can pass now, oh wait, theres a blind corner followed by a rise you cant see over, wtf!

[Ducky848]

There was heaps of room to pass in this vid, I could fit a frigging trike through there.

[Headbanger]

I think what many are missing, Is the fact that's a three lane road, The paint down the middle designates the motorcycle lane.

[rie]

"Welcome to Canterbury's worst drivers – caught on video by the drivers of our rubbish trucks" -- no fucking way!

[breakaway]

That passing maneuver was 100% legit. Might not be LEGAL, but looks reasonably safe.

Nannas who probably ride around and 90km/h everywhere and some cager pussies who drive 1.3L econoboxes which take 8 seconds to accelerate from 50-100 will not understand that a bike with 100+ RWHP can pass a set of cars in a flash and get back into their own lane safely.

Obviously, my definition of saftey is going to vary to the next guy.

[bogan]

That passing maneuver was 100% legit. Might not be LEGAL, but looks reasonably safe.

Nannas who probably ride around and 90km/h everywhere and some cager pussies who drive 1.3L econoboxes which take 8 seconds to accelerate from 50-100 will not understand that a bike with 100+ RWHP can pass a set of cars in a flash and get back into their own lane safely.

Obviously, my definition of saftey is going to vary to the next guy.

Does your definition of in his lane differ too then? cos he wasn't in the left hand lane when the SUV (i think it was) went past.

[EJK]

Hes got his 5 seconds of fame.

[breakaway]

Does your definition of in his lane differ too then? cos he wasn't in the left hand lane when the SUV (i think it was) went past.


That passing maneuver was 100% legit. Might not be LEGAL, but looks reasonably safe.


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[bogan]

That passing maneuver was 100% legit. Might not be LEGAL, but looks reasonably safe.

Nannas who probably ride around and 90km/h everywhere and some cager pussies who drive 1.3L econoboxes which take 8 seconds to accelerate from 50-100 will not understand that a bike with 100+ RWHP can pass a set of cars in a flash and get back into their own lane safely.

Obviously, my definition of saftey is going to vary to the next guy.

was refering to that, not the safely bit :bleh:

[beyond]

Dunno what the fuss is about. He was on his side of the centre line during the whole manouevre and was therefore legal as he stayed in his lane, yellow lines or not. You can overtake vehicles in your lane if you don't cross the yellow.

He only passed the van after the vehicles had gone by.

What's the big deal? Heaps of room, in his his lane, his side of the road.... owns a decent powerful motorbike.... oh... I get it. No more overtaking ever if you own a motorcyle... why get one if you can't do this sort of legal stuff?

[Shadows]

I can't see what all the fuss is about myself. Perfectly executed and bullshit was anybody taking evasive action.

[EJK]

OK here's a free tip. If you wanna be on the tele, news, KB headline, Times megazine, NZ Herald, The Press, 15 different radio stations and etc... drive/ ride fast infront of a dumper truck.

Done.

[grusomhat]

OK here's a free tip. If you wanna be on the tele, news, KB headline, Times megazine, NZ Herald, The Press, 15 different radio stations and etc... drive/ ride fast infront of a dumper truck.

Done.

I've certianly been looking.

[breakaway]

was refering to that, not the safely bit :bleh:

Forget all that. My point was the maneuver was completed relatively safely.

[Conquiztador]

How dare he! He should have had a Day Glow on, and waved with both hands!!

[The Pastor]

the obvious thing he did wrong was he didn't pull a wheelie to say thanks to the truck driver.

[avgas]

What fucking yellow???? All I see is the faded remains of a yellow......which means it doesn't count.

[breakaway]

To be quite honest, I'm surprised at the amount of people here that bitched about that particular passing maneuver. On most (KB Organised) group rides I've been on, EVERYONE overtakes on double yellows, let alone broken yellows. A LOT of dodgy (blind corner overtaking, etc) overtaking happens as well. Much more unsafe than the guy in the screen grab on page 1.

Damn, do some of you sorry fuckers just argue for the sake of arguing?

[Headbanger]

Damn, do some of you sorry fuckers just argue for the sake of arguing?

I sure as hell do.