KTM confusion

[spookytooth]

Hi im looking at getting a what we used to call "a trail" bike somthing i can ride on the road and off road like the xr's and tt's,Had a bit of a look around and xr's seem to be a thing of the past as do tt's I had a few ktm's years ago so started looking at the 500 plus cc range on trademe What i would like to know is what models need top end rebuild every few hundred hours like i have heard some of the newer thumpers need the as there are ecxc's sxc's lc4's and so on that are regod for road use
Thanks

[Oscar]

LC4's are not so maintenance intensive as they carry a decent amount of oil (I think Clint's got about 70,000km on his LC4e), however they are big.
Depending on what sort of riding you do, they may be a bit of a handful.

EXC's are much better for trail riding, but probably require as much looking after as their Jap counterparts

[JATZ]

This one here >> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-276017685.htm
would be a good buy :D

[warewolf]

EXCs are the road-legal enduros, oil change interval 1500km, very similar service schedules to the jap equivalents. The 4Ts recently used the RFS engine (racing four stroke). There's as many tales of woe about modern 4Ts as there are fellahs that have raced them ignoring by 3x the schedule top-end/piston replacement intervals with no problems.

The LC4s are much more trail bikes than enduros. Oil change interval 5000km. The LC4 engine is much more robust and durable than the RFS series.

[clint640]

LC4's are not so maintenance intensive as they carry a decent amount of oil (I think Clint's got about 70,000km on his LC4e), however they are big.
Depending on what sort of riding you do, they may be a bit of a handful.


88,000km now :yes:

If it's a low maintenance KTM trailbike you want then the LC4 series is for you. The price you pay is extra weight over the full on enduro EXC machines. The old 625SXC LC4 & the new 690 Enduro R LC4 are the most dirt focussed of the LC4 bikes, big as Oscar says but OK for trail rides as long as you have the right combination of size, strength & skill.
The 640 LC4 Enduro & 640 LC4 Adventure come with wider seats, bigger tanks etc & are a more biased to longer distance riding, but will still do the rough stuff fairly well. Even that 02 Enduro in the link above has better suspension than virtually anything else sold new today in the 600+ trailbike class, with the exception of it's replacement, the 690.

Cheers
Clint

Cheers
Clint

[spookytooth]

Sounds like the lc4's are the way to go then I would say they arn't as heavey as the old xt and xr's i started out in the dirt on and the bouncy bits are way better :) thanks for the info

[blackdog]

This one here >> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-276017685.htm
would be a good buy :D

that looks a reasonably good deal actually........

[spookytooth]

Bit bloody far to go and fetch it tho :)

[topo]

Dammn straight it is:yes:

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn175/topo-t-south/115_1634.jpg

[Oscar]

Sounds like the lc4's are the way to go then I would say they arn't as heavey as the old xt and xr's i started out in the dirt on and the bouncy bits are way better :) thanks for the info

Oh yeah - my LC4 (SXc625) is good for road, adv rides and trail rides but not enduro's (kinda like me).

[JATZ]

Bit bloody far to go and fetch it tho :)

But it'd be a nice ride home though aye :niceone:


Dammn straight it is:yes:

Wondered if you'd find your way into this thread :D

[dino3310]

Sounds like the lc4's are the way to go then I would say they arn't as heavey as the old xt and xr's i started out in the dirt on
Dont compare the XT to an XR, big difference,
and the ktm aint lighter than the XR.

[Oscar]

Dont compare the XT to an XR, big difference,
and the ktm aint lighter than the XR.

It may not be lighter, but it's certainly better.

[dino3310]

not at baja

[topo]

not at baja

But Waaaaaaaay beter at DAKAR!

[dino3310]

:lol: got me there Topo

[spookytooth]

Dont compare the XT to an XR, big difference,
.

not back in 79/80 when i had them

[dino3310]

My bad.
shit thats a long way back, i had a XL back then and yeah your right, i was thinking more when the mono shock came out and upwards like the XT550 - 600tenere and xr 5-600pro links.

shit me eating a little humble pie tonight:whistle:

[JATZ]

My bad.
shit thats a long way back, i had a XL back then

I had a raleigh "mustang" :Punk:

sorry, as you were

[spookytooth]

yea the 500 prolab was a big step forward my first ktm was a 77 250 mx then a 88 350 exc loved that bike .Sold that in 92 and havent had a dirt bike since Just getting the itch again :)

[dino3310]

yea the 500 prolab was a big step forward my first ktm was a 77 250 mx then a 88 350 exc loved that bike .Sold that in 92 and havent had a dirt bike since Just getting the itch again :)

ahh yes the mid life itch i think most of us on here are in that boat :lol: ...

actually i grew up over your ways, i might have given you a wave 20 odd years ago:scooter:

[cooneyr]

But Waaaaaaaay beter at DAKAR!

On that basis Yamaha is even Stevens at the moment.

Yamaha
1979 - XT500
1980 - XT500
1991 - YZE750T
1992 - YZE850T
1993 - YZE850T
1995 - YZE850T
1996 - YZE850T
1997 - YZE850T
1998 - YZE850T


KTM
2001 - LC4 660R
2002 - LC8 950R
2003 - LC4 660R
2004 - LC4 660R
2005 - LC4 660R
2006 - LC4 660R
2007 - 690 Rally
2009 - 690 Rally
2010 - 690 Rally


So WR450 or restricted 690 Rally next year???

[Oscar]

On that basis Yamaha is even Stevens at the moment.

Yamaha
1979 - XT500
1980 - XT500
1991 - YZE750T
1992 - YZE850T
1993 - YZE850T
1995 - YZE850T
1996 - YZE850T
1997 - YZE850T
1998 - YZE850T


KTM
2001 - LC4 660R
2002 - LC8 950R
2003 - LC4 660R
2004 - LC4 660R
2005 - LC4 660R
2006 - LC4 660R
2007 - 690 Rally
2009 - 690 Rally
2010 - 690 Rally


So WR450 or restricted 690 Rally next year???

On the basis that "...yer as good as yer last race.." Yamaha is boned...

[NordieBoy]

Twin shock XR250 FTW!

[warewolf]

twin shock xr250 ftw!

W O O T ! ! !

facr