Motorcycle speeding "Come off, you die"

[Kickaha]

From yesterdays paper

201669

[Cayman911]

lol people do 150k's on a 250 with a learners licence ( not that they should, but it does happen, probably way more ) ...... i think they didnt want to mention what the Big boys do

[98tls]

So whats the moral to that story,ride at 147 and be stopped or 150 and be allowed to carry on.:shutup:

[bogan]

yeh, but Mr policeman didn't say how stable bikes are at 150k, just point in straight line, let rip, and you'll be fine; just make sure line continues to be straight and hazard free, otherwise you'll be fucked!

[slofox]

150km/hr? Pffftttt. Pussies!

[Hiflyer]

Haha "could not be stopped"





Must have been that Keeway that took the police on a chase a while back!

[AllanB]

Speed kills - I read it in the paper so it must be true.

However ........

There are some hoons around these parts.

Mind you to Joe Public any bike wizzing past and flinging into the next corner looks crazy!

Take care out there.

[sosman]

Only 150kph?....must of been in a wheel stand!

[98tls]

Why though does it have to be all about motorcyclists?Car drivers dont speed or if they do its ok as they have some metal (sort of) round them.The stretch to Culverden is pretty boring and i imagine theres plenty of 4 wheeled vehicles doing those speeds along there.

[R6_kid]

Only 150kph?....must of been in a wheel stand!

and still in first gear.

[scracha]

Who believes this shite? The idiot cops that spout it, the idiot editors that publish it or the idiot consumers who read it? Fuck, in Europe you cruise at these sort of speeds and as long as it's not wet and you're not tailgating then you're not likely to die.

[=cJ=]

Dramatic headline is dramatic...

[Insanity_rules]

Oh my god, I'm public enemy number one! The paper says so.

[bogan]

Dramatic headline is dramatic...

Society must be dumbing down a bit, how long before we have a firearms safety message with the headline, "Shot in the head, you die". I mean seriously, these bulletproof riders don't expect to come off and live, they just don't expect to come off, and the article does nothing to address that; just another example of bikers being painted in a bad light cos we are all rebels and a burden on society.

[rustic101]

Typical knee jerk reaction from some Constable who no doubt use to be a Snake prior to the merger.. Some on KB would may remember when it was unsafe to travel over ten kilometres and hour as if you did you would stop breathing - haha

[scumdog]

Fuck, in Europe you cruise at these sort of speeds and as long as it's not wet and you're not tailgating then you're not likely to die.

Whereas in Indonesia you WILL probably die if you ride at those speeds.... wet, tailgating or not.

[scracha]

seriously, these bulletproof riders don't expect to come off and live, they just don't expect to come o
You'll find a large percentage of bulletproof riders here have came off at over 150kmph and not just lived, but (with the correct gear) walked away without a scratch.

I've not got a problem with the "the faster the speed, the bigger the risk" and "slow down at corners" type of messages but stupid statements about "going a few kmph over the limit = death" just make our ACC sponsored boys in blue sound like robotic "can't think for themselves" halfwits who seriously believe the bullshit that gets drummed into them at police college.

[Cayman911]

You'll find a large percentage of bulletproof riders here have came off at over 150kmph and not just lived, but (with the correct gear) walked away without a scratch.


here's a good example.

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[98tls]

here's a good example.

Ahh the perils of riding a Ducati:shifty:to busy looking in the mirror,what a knob.

[Berries]

You'll find a large percentage of bulletproof riders here have came off at over 150kmph and not just lived, but (with the correct gear) walked away without a scratch.

You'd be lucky though wouldn't you on NZ roads ? That video didn't look much like the roads around here. Quite a bit of guardrail stopping you from hitting trees, no bloody gravel shoulder leading you straight in to a ditch and being German it probably wasn't a shitty chip seal either. As for the Duke, I heard they could go round corners quite well, but they obviously have problems on the straights.

[steve_t]

Holy shit. That Boris should be glad to be alive!

[Motu]

If 150kph was perfectly safe you would happily ride at those speeds with no helmet or gloves,in T shirt,shorts and jandals.If you aren't prepared to do that,then obviously you accept that there is some danger to ride at those speeds....

[MarkH]

So wait, coming off a motorcycle at 150kph is dangerous? Who would have thought it!

I wonder how many motorcyclists have exceeded 150kph and are still alive - I think the trick is not to fall off.

[swbarnett]

If 150kph was perfectly safe you would happily ride at those speeds with no helmet or gloves,in T shirt,shorts and jandals.If you aren't prepared to do that,then obviously you accept that there is some danger to ride at those speeds....
And the same goes for 100kph. Done with respect for the conditions the risk is not significantly raised (if at all).

[sinfull]

Oh my god, I'm public enemy number one! The paper says so.
Thank god yr dead then !

If 150kph was perfectly safe you would happily ride at those speeds with no helmet or gloves,in T shirt,shorts and jandals.If you aren't prepared to do that,then obviously you accept that there is some danger to ride at those speeds.... My eyes nooooo !!!!


And the same goes for 100kph. Done with respect for the conditions the risk is not significantly raised (if at all). hmmmmm my eyessss !!!!

[scracha]

You'd be lucky though wouldn't you on NZ roads ? That video didn't look much like the roads around here. Quite a bit of guardrail stopping you from hitting trees, no bloody gravel shoulder leading you straight in to a ditch and being German it probably wasn't a shitty chip seal either.
Don't mistake my comments for saying that every road is safe at 150kmph. Ride to the conditions etc etc. Some of the boring junctionless straight roads with clearly visible drivewways around here on a beautiful sunny day when you pass about 2 cars an hour.....you're not likely to die from sliding along on your arse. Around here there's more chance of some hillbilly in a ute t-boning you in town or a cow walking across the road cos some of the local farmers are too negligent to turn on their pissy little electric fences. Two occasions I've rung up local coppers about cows on road and fence not even being switched on and they really just dont give fuck. What's more likely to kill me*?


If 150kph was perfectly safe you would happily ride at those speeds with no helmet or gloves,in T shirt,shorts and jandals.If you aren't prepared to do that,then obviously you accept that there is some danger to ride at those speeds....
Not sure who this comment is aimed at. I never said it was "perfectly safe". Walking down the street isn't perfectly safe but I'm prepared to walk with no helmet or gloves. It's all about managed risk. Coppers telling us that WE WILL DIE if we ride at 150 sends out completely the wrong message.

*cue comments about being able to stop within visible difference

[Metastable]

Not to mention, falling off a bike at 150kph with proper gear isn't really a big deal. The bigger problem is if there is a sudden stop. On a nice clear day on a straight section of road.... fark, there are some tracks that are more dangerous with walls a few feet away going down a big straight.

[T.W.R]

:lol: The Waikari cop....sounds like he's loosing his mystic :whistle: the ol weekly quota must be deminishing for him. There'd have been thousands caught along the Culverden straight over the years. favourite hunting ground is usually by the Belmoral plantation or the layby by the bridge just before Culverden.
Those speeds are peanuts to what some have done down there and I'd deny anyone to say they haven't given their bikes a tickle up along that straight.

[Indiana_Jones]

From yesterdays paper



Could be worse, we could be in Aus where they have Aliens who knock you off your bike....

-Indy

[Kickaha]

Those speeds are peanuts to what some have done down there and I'd deny anyone to say they haven't given their bikes a tickle up along that straight.

No idea what you're talking about:innocent:

[T.W.R]

No idea what you're talking about:innocent:

:lol: 18 odd kms of perfectly straight road out in the boonies has that effect :shutup:
it's a dent in the ego at 18 though when you're two up on a CB900 hunched over like ruptured rats giving it everything it's got and your mate's old man pulls along side looks at you both, shakes a finger of dismay then proceeds to pull away in front, stops at Culverden and decides to give a lecture about how dangerous it is to do those sort of speeds :blink: 220 was pretty respectable back then :innocent:

[Bounce001]

Article in our local paper this morning about a car caught doing 185km on the southern motorway on Friday night. Nothing about dying doing that speed in a car...

[Big Dave]

Poor ol' plod has probably scraped up what's left of a number of bodies with a shovel. He's just saying what he's been trained to believe in - publicly anyway.
I now call it 141 roulette.
We can't win either. You only have to guess what the future will hold. Governors, GPS tracking. We might be living in what they will call the 'golden age' in 20 years time.
Probably picking up a new 1000cc top of the line sports bike tomorrow, to ride on the road. 8 years ago I wouldn't sleep the night before that sort of gig. Now it's an exercise in self control and sticking around speed limit - or even keeping under disqualification speed in the racing crouch is not much fun.
My solution has been to move from bikes that were comfortable at 160kph to bikes that are great fun at 100kph. Ergo the tractor engine on pogo sticks that I now own, and general favourtism for Harleys, cruisers, ADV bikes and dual sports.
One of the best fun bikes I've tested is the Victory Hammer, it takes a great deal of effort to ride at 100kph. The Harley Trike is the same. Instead of just sitting on it and idling - you have to work it to make it get along. Same with a Triumph Bonneville.
Around Auckland on a sprotsbike I mostly just sit there and watch the speedo. 100kph short of where it gets interesting.

Right tool for the job, Tim.

[SMOKEU]

Poor ol' plod has probably scraped up what's left of a number of bodies with a shovel. He's just saying what he's been trained to believe in - publicly anyway.
I now call it 141 roulette.
We can't win ether. You only have to guess what the future will hold. Governors, GPS tracking. We might be living in what they will call the 'golden age' in 20 years time.
Probably picking up a new 1000cc top of the line sports bike tomorrow, to ride on the road. 8 years ago I wouldn't sleep the night before that sort of gig. Now it's an exercise in self control and sticking around speed limit - or even keeping under disqualification speed in the racing crouch is not much fun.
My solution has been to move from bikes that were comfortable at 160kph to bikes that are great fun at 100kph. Ergo the tractor engine on pogo sticks that I now own, and general favourtism for Harleys, cruisers, ADV bikes and dual sports.
One of the best fun bikes I've tested is the Victory Hammer, it takes a great deal of effort to ride at 100kph. The Harley Trike is the same. Instead of just sitting on it and idling - you have to work it to make it get along. Same with a Triumph Bonneville.
Around Auckland on a sprotsbike I mostly just sit there and watch the speedo. 100kph short of where it gets interesting.

Right tool for the job, Tim.

I never knew it was possible to have fun travelling at 100kmh on the open road.

[scracha]

Probably picking up a new 1000cc top of the line sports bike tomorrow, to ride on the road. 8 years ago I wouldn't sleep the night before that sort of gig. Now it's an exercise in self control and sticking around speed limit - or even keeping under disqualification speed in the racing crouch is not much fun.
My solution has been to move from bikes that were comfortable at 160kph to bikes that are great fun at 100kph. Ergo the tractor engine on pogo sticks that I now own, and general favourtism for Harleys, cruisers, ADV bikes and dual sports.
One of the best fun bikes I've tested is the Victory Hammer, it takes a great deal of effort to ride at 100kph. The Harley Trike is the same. Instead of just sitting on it and idling - you have to work it to make it get along. Same with a Triumph Bonneville.
Around Auckland on a sprotsbike I mostly just sit there and watch the speedo. 100kph short of where it gets interesting.

Right tool for the job, Tim.
Seconded.....

[Big Dave]

>> I never knew it was possible to have fun travelling at 100kmh on the open road. <<

Work hard - One day you might get a bike that can do it.

:-P

[swbarnett]

My eyes nooooo !!!!

hmmmmm my eyessss !!!!
Of course good eye protection is the one piece of protective gear I'd never be without at anything above a crawl.

[avgas]

For those of you who are so die hard and want to slam the cop.
Can I come around to your house and swing a 4x4 at your face at 150kph......I will let you wear your riding gear all of it.
I aren't strong enough to throw you at a wall at 150kph y'see.
The faster you go, the better sushi they can make out of squid. We all fuck up - but please keep your speeding for the special occasions.

[swbarnett]

For those of you who are so die hard and want to slam the cop.
Can I come around to your house and swing a 4x4 at your face at 150kph......I will let you wear your riding gear all of it.
I aren't strong enough to throw you at a wall at 150kph y'see.
The faster you go, the better sushi they can make out of squid. We all fuck up - but please keep your speeding for the special occasions.
As we keep trying to tell those that will not listen - time and place. Sliding down the road, even over 150kph, is no guarentee of death.

[TimeOut]

If 150kph was perfectly safe you would happily ride at those speeds with no helmet or gloves,in T shirt,shorts and jandals.If you aren't prepared to do that,then obviously you accept that there is some danger to ride at those speeds....

I won't even ride at 10kph without the proper gear:innocent:

[scumdog]

As we keep trying to tell those that will not listen - time and place. Sliding down the road, even over 150kph, is no guarentee of death.

Or life...

[Laxi]

Oh my god, I'm public enemy number one! The paper says so.

ducatis are 1 of the safest bikes out mate, if your bike only runs half the time then thats 50% less chance to crash :bleh:

[Pixie]

Yeah and intersections are pure lotteries,if you don't have stability control in your car you will get T-boned by a truck,your son will die if you speed when he's in the car,blah blah bloody blah

[Toaster]

As we keep trying to tell those that will not listen - time and place. Sliding down the road, even over 150kph, is no guarentee of death.

I would do it covered in maple syrup on an enormous 1 metre thick pancake....

....but on our bumpy, rough chip, narrow roads with rocks, holes, poles, trees, cheese cutters, road signs and anything else that is hard enough to split me in two as I slide off the road out of control.... yeeouch! After hitting any of that I might want to be dead. I doubt the chances of being lucky enough to do a smooth lowside slide would be all that great. On a track, maybe. On our roads?

[scumdog]

I feel SO much happier knowing I'm sharing the roads with everybody else on this thread who knows how to stay alive long enough on NZ roads to die of old age - despite the speeding etc etc..

[red mermaid]

I think the phrase you are looking for SD is 'Key board hero's' and there is no shortage of them in this thread.

[Insanity_rules]

ducatis are 1 of the safest bikes out mate, if your bike only runs half the time then thats 50% less chance to crash :bleh:

Says the man riding an FZR!

[Berries]

Don't mistake my comments for saying that every road is safe at 150kmph. Ride to the conditions etc etc. Some of the boring junctionless straight roads with clearly visible drivewways around here on a beautiful sunny day when you pass about 2 cars an hour.....you're not likely to die from sliding along on your arse.

Understood, but you aren't simply going to fall off the side of your bike on a straight bit of road and slide along the middle of it, you are going to come off due to hitting a cow or being taken out by some local going about his daily business.


Coppers telling us that WE WILL DIE if we ride at 150 sends out completely the wrong message.
I figure if I crash at anything over 70km/h there's a pretty good chance I won't get away with it considering the roadside environment in these parts. But the whole thing about riding is that it is a calculated risk, each corner, each long empty straight. The only problem I see with 140km/h plus is the potential loss of licence. Being English I never thought you were speeding till you were doing three figures (imperial). I am sure some killjoy will come on here and counter that view.


I think the phrase you are looking for SD is 'Key board hero's' and there is no shortage of them in this thread.
:doh:

[swbarnett]

Or life...
Agreed, that's what makes life interesting.

[SMOKEU]

It's just too easy to get into licence losing territory in the 100kmh zones. And I ride a 250cc bike. And it's 4 stroke.

[Laxi]

Says the man riding an FZR!

fair'nuf, but zzr = 45000k on 2 oil changes and 1 rear tyre change :bleh: