View Full Version : AA National AGM 25/3/2010
p.dath
25th March 2010, 20:38
I attended the AA's national AGM tonight.
You'll have to excuse me, as I've been sick for the last week, and I buried by grandmother today, and everything is swimming in my head.
Anyway, I dosed up on medication to make myself feel normal, and wearing my funeral suit I entered the AGM (I only wear a suit for weddings and funerals). The whole event took 16 minutes from start to finish.
I would say the meeting was attended by about 200 people - however I believe I was the *only* personal member who was not an AA delegate. Let me explain that a bit further. Everyone who works for the AA, is a councillor, or the partner of a councillor had a yellow tag around their neck saying who they were and which district they were from.
I was the only person without a yellow tag.
That's very interesting - because it means if I wanted to make a big change at the AA I would now need a much smaller number of people to do it.
The CEO caught me completely off guard. You see, to do anything at the AGM you have to file it 28 days in advance. I had planned to attend the AGM only to see how it and the AA works. Call it research.
Well, before the chairman called the meeting to a close the CEO of the AA looked at me, addressed me by my name, and asked if I would like to address the board. I made a huge mistake here, by declining. I thanks him for his offer, but said I has happy with the process I had started within the AA.
I was just so taken back. Fist that he knew my name. And secondly that he had departed from protocol by inviting me to speak directly to the board.
I should have seized this moment. Perhaps on another day I would have possessed the mental cpacity to do this. Never mind. No point crying over spilt milk.
It was not to some time later I came to the impression (by reading between the lines) that my requests to the AA have made it to the very top of the organisation (aka, the CEO), and that by departing from normal protocol that the CEO was indicating some level of support for what I have been asking for (a return to the Woodhouse principles).
p.dath
25th March 2010, 20:46
Anyway following the meeting all the delegates went for a drink. I have trouble saying no to a free beer, and inviting myself along was not a problem I had either.
I started making up for my earlier gaff by working the crowd for about 45 minutes. I spoke to the AA's professional political lobbyist, and he told me he had been meeting with both political parties and Nick Smith (ACC minister) about ACC and pre-funding. He told me lots of interesting stuff as well.
I also found out that when the AA have their AGM they also have three days of meetings. The prior day they had a discussion about ACC, and my communications and my speech to the Auckland District Council had come up and their had been quite some disscussion on the issue. I also found out that tomorrow they meet to formalise the AA's formal policies.
I was told that the councillors as a whole had been quite "shocked" to learn that ACC is in fact not in financial trouble, and many councillors had come to a realisation that the information being given out by ACC is now questionable.
I spoke with district councillors from all over the country. They all seemed relatively supportive.
Then the CEO came up to me and over a beer we had a chat. Remember, this is the top guy in the AA. He told me my emails and speech had been circulated at the top levels of the AA, and had attracted the attention of the board.
He didn't want to say too much ahead of the policy meeting tomorrow, but indicated there was widespreadh support within the AA that the AA should adopt a position against ACC. He said the meetings the AA had with both political parties said that neither party was prepared to drop pre-funding. He said neither party was even prepapred to put it on the table to talk about. So he said the AA's policy would not be for this, and they did not consider it achievable. He said that there policy was likely to be half way towards what I had been asking for.
I spoke to one of the policy anaylsyts next, and he said he'll email me a policy update within 2 or 3 weeks of the meeting tomorrow (tomorrow it gets decided, but then it has to be formalised).
p.dath
25th March 2010, 20:50
Oh yeah, I asked several people who gets paid $$$ in the AA.
I learned that District Councillors are all volunteers. I also learned that the councillors put up to about 30 hours a week into their position.
So this is why the AA is full of older/retired people. Few others could afford to effetcively put in a full time effort for no financial reward.
I was told most councillors are people who have worked in some kind of transport industry, or are particularly passionate about seeing motoring improve.
GOONR
25th March 2010, 21:04
p.dath, what can I say, you are a fucking trooper.
I've had a few too many wines right now so will keep my typing to a minimum and re-read tomorrow but good on ya fella.
I might even buy you a beer at some point soon seems your just down the road.
chasio
25th March 2010, 22:18
I second that - good on ya p. Don't feel bad being caught on the hop - it's not easy to address 200 people off the cuff, let alone in your circumstances.
It had actually been on my ubefuckinlievably long list of things to do to attend this and then it just slipped off the radar over Christmas. Bugger it. And there was free beer to add insult to injury!
Chasio
chasio
25th March 2010, 22:19
I thought I only clicked it once but I got a duplicate of the above message... probably user error somehow.
mashman
26th March 2010, 11:00
:clap: good on ya PD...
MSTRS
26th March 2010, 11:52
Excellent stuff!!
Clarification, please...
He said the meetings the AA had with both political parties said that neither party was prepared to drop pre-funding. Both parties? National, obviously. But Act, Labour, Maori...who's the other one?
p.dath
26th March 2010, 16:29
Excellent stuff!!
Clarification, please... Both parties? National, obviously. But Act, Labour, Maori...who's the other one?
He specifically mentioned National and Labour.
p.dath
26th March 2010, 16:31
At the AGM the finances were also discussed. Interesting to note that the Insurance services had a stellar year. I mention this because a lot of bikers on here said they took their business away from AA insurance.
And you know why AA insurance had one of its best years ever, even during a recession? Because the value of the total claims they had to pay out on dropped significantly.
zahria
26th March 2010, 16:54
Awesome work, thanks for the update.
MSTRS
26th March 2010, 16:54
He specifically mentioned National and Labour.
Funny how that's not what the Reds told us...
bogan
26th March 2010, 16:59
Funny how that's not what the Reds told us...
When did they say they would drop future funding? I remember them saying they would roll back the changes national is currently making, but nothing specifically about future funding, then again I may have tuned out for a while there (bloody hard work listening to politicians ya know!)
MSTRS
26th March 2010, 17:05
The changes to levies across the board ARE for future funding...
bogan
26th March 2010, 17:13
yes to bring the date for being fully future funded closer, but the scheme has been working towards future funding since 98-99, just at a slower rate, I gather labor is happy to continue on the lower rate to buy some votes, but not prepared to drop future funding completely.
BMWST?
26th March 2010, 17:17
bloody good work mate, iam gonna email them too. iwasnt going to rejoin this year but the wife paid the new sub. i am gonna email them and express my support for your position
mashman
26th March 2010, 17:17
The changes to levies across the board ARE for future funding...
I wonder where else money will come from for this... ya know, to speed up the process and let the insurance companies in... potentially from government cuts (jobs losses and the resulting "social" expenses associated with small groups of people losing their jobs, negligable?), plus savings made by denying ACC claims, plus potential "new investment", ya know, mining, dairy production, plus the $11 billion that we already have... how many billion did they need before 2019?
Good job P D. Shame only the reds and blues turned up... never gonna get any debate out of that eh?
FLUB
26th March 2010, 17:26
Bugger!!!! My wife and I only renewed our membership so that we could join you at this meeting and then we forgot about it :doh:
You should wear a T-shirt with your name on. I think there are enough grateful people on here to keep you in free beer for quite a long time. Thank you for your tenacity :clap:
p.dath
26th March 2010, 18:00
yes to bring the date for being fully future funded closer, but the scheme has been working towards future funding since 98-99, just at a slower rate, I gather labor is happy to continue on the lower rate to buy some votes, but not prepared to drop future funding completely.
The date to complete pre-funding for claims up to 1999 has been extended to 2019 - to reduce the size of the necessary increases in ACC to achive full funding.
However, ditch pre-funding and everyone can have an instant reduction in ACC levies.
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