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MikeNZ
30th March 2010, 11:29
Well hey guys , the title says it all. Atm I got a 50cc Hysosung sf50 and been riding it about 2 years. I would like to look at getting a 250. But know nothing about them. Please give me some advice on what I should be looking for in a 250 and what bikes you reccomend.

Thanks
Mike

SPORK
30th March 2010, 12:24
If you're lame - a 2cyl 4t.
If you're not - an IL4 4t.

If you're gonna drop it - a naked bike.
If you're not - you wouldn't be asking.

Preeeeeetty simple.

CookMySock
30th March 2010, 13:25
What do you want to do with it? Where do you see yourself in another two years? What do you like about bikes in general?


Steve

FJRider
30th March 2010, 13:39
Just find one that you can afford ... that looks half decent to you. Get it checked out by either an EXPERIENCED rider(friend) or a bike shop. You will most likely be looking to upgrade within a year or so, for a bigger bike again. Plus in the learner years ... some damage can be expected. Less so later as your experience grows ... (usually)

firefighter
30th March 2010, 13:57
If you're gonna drop it - a naked bike.

Why a naked bike?

CookMySock
30th March 2010, 14:14
Why a naked bike?Coz you will only smash the engine casings, and not the expensive plastic. :niceone:

Steve

Slyer
30th March 2010, 14:16
If it's commuting look at twin bikes, if only for weekend riding go with 4 cylinder bikes.

Pick whatever you think looks coolest otherwise.

CookMySock
30th March 2010, 14:18
If it's commuting look at twin bikes, if only for weekend riding go with 4 cylinder bikes.Cmarrrrrn, the (v)twins a great with a loud pipe on them..

Steve

Slyer
30th March 2010, 14:26
Well I have to give the IL4 some points. Even though they are more expensive to maintain and use about twice as much gas for about 5 extra HP. ;)

Autech
30th March 2010, 20:27
Get a perm.
Also if you're short enough an FXR150 is a great bike to ride

SMOKEU
30th March 2010, 20:34
Get a 4 cylinder bike. Lots more power than a 4 stroke twin. With only 250cc's to play around with, you need all the power you can get (without buying a 2 stroke unless you're happy to pay for the fuel and maintenance).

Maki
31st March 2010, 06:27
Get a full licence and get a real bike. A 250 cc bike does not have any power worth talking about so if you want more power get something bigger.

MikeNZ
31st March 2010, 09:22
Im looking at a 250 kawasaki or a 250 hyosung sports bike. Considering getting one from a dealer? whats your opinion. I will be using it as main trasport to and from polytech

Smifffy
31st March 2010, 09:30
Work out how much you want to pay, then go for the best combination of year, mileage/condition, and appearance (to your taste) that you can get. I'd say providing you get one in good nick, there's not too much difference, providing you feel comfortable on it.

MikeNZ
31st March 2010, 10:22
Is it a good idea getting one from a dealer? looking at a nija 250 or a 250 hyosung. I can afford to pay it off weekly

Smifffy
31st March 2010, 13:49
Is it a good idea getting one from a dealer? looking at a nija 250 or a 250 hyosung. I can afford to pay it off weekly

I'd say it's not a bad idea, usually expect to pay a little bit more, but generally speaking a good dealer isn't about to do a runner. If you need finance the dealer is usually less hassle and similar price. If you don't already have it, it can also be worth getting some good safety gear and including that in the finance package.

Remember you could well be ready to step up to a bigger bike before you have even finished paying for this one.

bluebird
31st March 2010, 19:19
Get the Hyo' and put a screeming demon can on it (remove the baffle) also put decent tyres on it. I ride an M109R and I really enjoyed a day in city streets on a GT250R efi like this, sounds good too.

marksie
5th April 2010, 17:11
Just new to this forum and have just bought a 1984 Yamaha XV750 to do up over the winter months. Will take delivery next week. I am wondering how my first ride will go after being away from bikes for 40 years but one has to do something in his retirement. I have been thinking of the hills and corners in the Marlborough sounds that I will have to negotiate but I suppose one will have to learn the ropes over again and take it slowly from the start. I am keen to hear from any one out there who has a similar bike. Over the winter we might be able to compare notes.

Kiri
6th April 2010, 19:14
go with the hyosung - I love mine and have had a great time keeping up with the bigger bikes. My hyo sits happily at 120ks and I don't feel like I'm being left behind. Although I have to say I want something bigger cos overtaking can be a bit of a mission and the bike starts to sound a bit funny at 135ks :)

newbould
6th April 2010, 19:21
go with the hyosung - I love mine and have had a great time keeping up with the bigger bikes. My hyo sits happily at 120ks and I don't feel like I'm being left behind. Although I have to say I want something bigger cos overtaking can be a bit of a mission and the bike starts to sound a bit funny at 135ks :)

That's not thre bike - its the siren

Kiri
6th April 2010, 19:23
huh, that explains it - the high pitched ringing and all :D

aprilia_RS250
7th April 2010, 17:31
If you have a big knob, a spanner and life time supply of fully synthetic oil get an Aprilia RS250.

Jonno.
7th April 2010, 17:38
Don't get an RS250 for a commute.
Either a Hyo or Ninja 250 sound good for your purpose with good fuel economy, a bit of power (a lot more then a 50). Might be better to get a loan and get a second hand one for a few thousand less though that's already been run in.

Morcs
7th April 2010, 17:57
Get a thou.

mattian
7th April 2010, 18:21
Im looking at a 250 kawasaki or a 250 hyosung sports bike. Considering getting one from a dealer? whats your opinion. I will be using it as main trasport to and from polytech

As far as 250's go..... the Hysoung is a gutless wonder, sure it looks the part, but if you want a 250 with some balls.... any of them, other than the Hysosung. The new Kawasaki ninja 250's are awesome bikes. So is the Honda VTR.

and definately buy through a dealer. That way you know its up to scratch and have some recourse if something goes wrong. If you're buying off trade-me, its buyer beware.

Kiri
7th April 2010, 18:35
If you can, test ride some of these suggestions, you'll soon know which is for you.

CookMySock
7th April 2010, 19:03
As far as 250's go..... the Hysoung is a gutless wonder, sure it looks the part, but if you want a 250 with some balls.... any of them, other than the Hysosung. The new Kawasaki ninja 250's are awesome bikes. So is the Honda VTR.The (non EFI) Hyosung has more power and torque until you get past 11,000rpm where the ninja takes over for about 500rpm. The EFI Hyosung has more power and torque again, and it'll do 500km on its' 17L tank of fuel.

The shorty screaming demon absolutely transforms the bike. It has the most wicked sound.


and definately buy through a dealer. That way you know its up to scratch and have some recourse if something goes wrong. If you're buying off trade-me, its buyer beware.There's nothing wrong with buying a second-hand low-km bike that looks like its been cared for.

Steve

Kiri
10th April 2010, 21:53
So, I'm upgrading from my 250 (that I love) to an 865 or so. Haven't ridden it yet, but have ridden something similar and I'm worried (an understatement). A friend advised that when they upgraded they, "had to learn to ride all over again."

Another friend said every bike is different, and it's like driving a new car. But you know new cars don't bother me. A new bike scares the s*&^t out of me :shit:

Her_C4
10th April 2010, 22:02
So, I'm upgrading from my 250 (that I love) to an 865 or so. Haven't ridden it yet, but have ridden something similar and I'm worried (an understatement). A friend advised that when they upgraded they, "had to learn to ride all over again."

Another friend said every bike is different, and it's like driving a new car. But you know new cars don't bother me. A new bike scares the s*&^t out of me :shit:

Oh dear god... :thud:

Kiri
10th April 2010, 22:12
Oh dear god... :thud:

reality check :doctor:

thanks, I think

disenfranchised
10th April 2010, 22:55
So, I'm upgrading from my 250 (that I love) to an 865 or so. Haven't ridden it yet, but have ridden something similar and I'm worried (an understatement). A friend advised that when they upgraded they, "had to learn to ride all over again."

Another friend said every bike is different, and it's like driving a new car. But you know new cars don't bother me. A new bike scares the s*&^t out of me :shit:

It's not as bad as learning to ride again. Some things will be different and you have to adjust.
I've just upgraded, and found it was little things like where the clutch engages, and how much throttle provides steady cornering power were the main things which were different.
Other little things were that the new bikes rear brake actually works, so is dead easy to lock up.
Cornering feels different too....so I'm progressively working on that.

Kiri
11th April 2010, 16:08
It's not as bad as learning to ride again. Some things will be different and you have to adjust.
I've just upgraded, and found it was little things like where the clutch engages, and how much throttle provides steady cornering power were the main things which were different.
Other little things were that the new bikes rear brake actually works, so is dead easy to lock up.
Cornering feels different too....so I'm progressively working on that.

Thanks. That's reasurring. When I test rode the similar bike I loved it, although I felt a bit clumsy cornering, i think because the weight and balance of the bike was so much bigger than I was accustomed to. I guess I'll have to remind myself to take it easy as I've gotten into the habit with my 250 of throwing it around corners and full throttle everywhere. Hehehe, I'll have some power to actually get past stuff :D

R-Soul
23rd April 2010, 16:55
As far as 250's go..... the Hysoung is a gutless wonder, sure it looks the part, but if you want a 250 with some balls.... any of them, other than the Hysosung. The new Kawasaki ninja 250's are awesome bikes. So is the Honda VTR.

and definately buy through a dealer. That way you know its up to scratch and have some recourse if something goes wrong. If you're buying off trade-me, its buyer beware.

Or if you want bikes with MUCh more power, that dont lose value, but are older, then go for the Honda CBR2500RR's or the Kwakka ZXR250's. They have about 45hp and rev to 18k - they sound awesome on song at redline, handle really well and are prettry reliable for their age (if you have the Honda). They are very sports orientated though with a far forward position - tough on your wrists until you getused to it. They are probably great fon on track days too.

miloking
23rd April 2010, 17:00
So, I'm upgrading from my 250 (that I love) to an 865 or so. Haven't ridden it yet, but have ridden something similar and I'm worried (an understatement). A friend advised that when they upgraded they, "had to learn to ride all over again."

Another friend said every bike is different, and it's like driving a new car. But you know new cars don't bother me. A new bike scares the s*&^t out of me :shit:


i got my learners on my bandit 400, upgraded to litre bike and when i rode it for the first time it felt like i rode it all my life!

Then went for ride on my bandit after about month (before i sold it) and it was actualy little scary...

So iam sure you will be fine! Each bike is different so dont let the "nay" sayers put you off!

R-Soul
26th April 2010, 12:05
.... I guess I'll have to remind myself to take it easy as I've gotten into the habit with my 250 of throwing it around corners and full throttle everywhere. Hehehe, I'll have some power to actually get past stuff :D

Trust me- you wiill scare the crap out of yourself on a litre bike (evena reasonably tame one) if you do that...
It took me a good few months (about 8 months) before I had the guts to open the throttle full on my bike (much less take it around the corner full throttle!). When the front wheel goes light, your hand automatically backs off!