Quitting smoking

[denefoster]

and spending the money on a bike instead. Am I crazy ? Smoking bad, smoking costs me ~$330 a month. I figure I could/should fill that void with a nice 2moker instead.

Thoughts ? :)

[Tank]

and spending the money on a bike instead. Am I crazy ? Smoking bad, smoking costs me ~$330 a month. I figure I could/should fill that void with a nice 2moker instead.

Thoughts ? :)


you need to ask?


smoking is bad mkaaaaay

[denefoster]

Oh, im quitting regardless.. just seems like giving myself a reason (nice shiny aprilia) will help me out. Asking more about funneling the monies elsewhere, not whether I should actually quit ;p

[Tank]

Oh, im quitting regardless.. just seems like giving myself a reason (nice shiny aprilia) will help me out. Asking more about funneling the monies elsewhere, not whether I should actually quit ;p

Meh - dont commit the money too fast - a lot quit and start up again - and then you are up for two lots of payments - you dont want a bike you cannot afford.

[kiwifruit]

Quitting smoking is easy if you want to.

[denefoster]

Meh, not so much the money, 300 a month won't kill me either way. More seeing it in the garage every day, and there being a direct fiscal relationship. I start again, bike gets taken away and sold. Sadly, my friends probably would actually do that. (Means they're good friends, right ?)

Friend of mine promised his daughter that is he started again, he'd pay for a trip to Europe for her. Other people promise vacations and whatnot to themselves. I don't really do long term thinking, so that doesn't help me.

This is a thought process I'm after.. not quitting for extra $$.

[Bikernereid]

and spending the money on a bike instead. Am I crazy ? Smoking bad, smoking costs me ~$330 a month. I figure I could/should fill that void with a nice 2moker instead.

Thoughts ? :)

Gave up over two years ago after smoking on and off for 23 years and have never looked back. If you can't do it cold turkey try Zyban it works. You may find that you have some very trippy dream (for free) and that heavy drinking is not recommended but think of the money for the bike!!

Good luck and think how nice you will smell and how nice food will taste when you're not smoking!!!

[denefoster]

Gave up over two years ago after smoking on and off for 23 years and have never looked back. If you can't do it cold turkey try Zyban it works. You may find that you have some very trippy dream (for free) and that heavy drinking is not recommended but think of the money for the bike!!
Good luck and think how nice you will smell and how nice food will taste when you're not smoking!!!


Tried patches before and they didn't take.. I've got a prescription for Champix now, which supposedly has 3x the efficacy of patches. Start taking it this weekend so I guess I'll find out. Drinking is not much of a problem, have maybe 1 beer a month or so as it is.

[Bikernereid]

Tried patches before and they didn't take.. I've got a prescription for Champix now, which supposedly has 3x the efficacy of patches. Start taking it this weekend so I guess I'll find out. Drinking is not much of a problem, have maybe 1 beer a month or so as it is.

Didn't rate patches either. Zyban is an antidepressant that they found stopped smoking in those taking it. Maybe Champix also works at a neurological level. I am sure that if you keep a pic of the bike you want to buy in your wallet you will have some constant motivation and something that will maybe stop you buying some fags if you get the urge! I guess 1 beer a month wouldn't pose a problem!! what bike do you want to buy?

[denefoster]

Didn't rate patches either. Zyban is an antidepressant that they found stopped smoking in those taking it. Maybe Champix also works at a neurological level. I am sure that if you keep a pic of the bike you want to buy in your wallet you will have some constant motivation and something that will maybe stop you buying some fags if you get the urge! I guess 1 beer a month wouldn't pose a problem!!

Champix is a direct nicotinic receptor partial agonist, means intake of nicotine has very little effect as well as subduing desire for more. So you start the first week of pills while still smoking, then the second week stop smoking and continue for 10 more afterwards.




what bike do you want to buy?

An rs250 :)

[Bikernereid]

Champix is a direct nicotinic receptor partial agonist, means intake of nicotine has very little effect as well as subduing desire for more. So you start the first week of pills while still smoking, then the second week stop smoking and continue for 10 more afterwards.

An rs250 :)

Yep that is the same as Zyban.

Sweet bike. Bloody good reason to quit smoking!!

[Ferkletastic]

Pick up Allan Carrs easyway to quit smoking and read that sucker. I chain smoked for 10 years and quit easy using the book. His writing style sucks and he comes across as a complete ego monster, but the logic is sound and it works. Best $30 I ever spent.

[Bikernereid]

Pick up Allan Carrs easyway to quit smoking and read that sucker. I chain smoked for 10 years and quit easy using the book. His writing style sucks and he comes across as a complete ego monster, but the logic is sound and it works. Best $30 I ever spent.

Must be good then with that review ;-)

[SPORK]

Today's my last day of smoking, too.

Surprisingly enough - it's so I can start smoking. Two-smoking.

Like for you, an RS250 is the goal. Race you there?

[Genie]

After 3 attempts I finally did it on the third one.

November 20, 2009 was my last cigarette. January 20, 2010 I bought myself a motorbike. I won't smoke again for if I do the bike goes. Simple. I had smoked for over 30 years, can't even think about how much that cost me. The bike is way cheaper, is way more fun and I don't stink!! (much)

Go for it, but give yourself some time before you commit to the purchase. I decided I had had enough and just went cold turkey, I have the patches up in the bedroom should I need to use one, still haven't so I think I'm fine.

All the best, giving up is the best gift you can give yourself.

[Skyryder]

The best incentive for guy to quit smoking is sex. Much better and more often. And I guarantree your partner will notice the difference too.


As for the ladies can not comment on the sex as I am not one but take a look at a fifty woamn year old who smokes as against one who does not................then ask your self who do you want to look like??


Skyryder

[Headbanger]

Hell yeah, I gave up to preserve my good looks.





In all serious though, Smoking just destroys a woman's looks, then they plaster makeup all over their shriveled face thinking that'ill fix it, then the putrid stick of cancer goes back in the mouth....

[Morcs]

Smoking and motorcycles go hand-in-hand.
Its all about looking cool mmmmk.

[CookMySock]

You won't be able to do it. You don't hate smoking enough, and you're not angry enough to want to change it.

Or are you?

Steve

[Love my Bonnie]

and spending the money on a bike instead. Am I crazy ? Smoking bad, smoking costs me ~$330 a month. I figure I could/should fill that void with a nice 2moker instead.

Thoughts ? :)

I sugested exactly this to my best mate just 5 weeks ago.

He has been smoke free for 19 days now and is the proud new owner of a 1098s Tri-colour Ducati.
Any one wanna buy a 955i Daytona?

[Grasshopperus]

Goof stuff Dane. I quit after reading Alan Carr's "Easyway to quit smoking' and he reckons that using $$ as the primary reason won't do it long-term. Do you remember in "Harry Potter and the prisoner of Azkhaban" how Harry has to think of a really happy thought in order to perform that 'petronis' spell? Well that's gotta be you with quitting. Do it for yourself and the $$ is a nice aside.

Cheers
Al
P.S: might be down in Welly on 20/21 April. See you then

[AllanB]

Good for you mate - take the $330 spend $250 a month on a bike and you still have money free for whores ......... just don't get adicted to them too!

I'll be here all evening giving out excellent advice.

[Maha]

Almost 4 months for me now.
Do I feel better?......no.
Does food taste any better?....no.
Am I any richer?......no
But I done the right thing yes?

[scissorhands]

Most smokers over 35 give up. Those that dont start to look real tired, in my book. The collagen in the skin collapses, which you can see, however the collagen in your internal organs does the same.

[steve_t]

Almost 4 months for me now.
Do I feel better?......no.
Does food taste any better?....no.
Am I any richer?......no
But I done the right thing yes?

How are u not richer?

[Maha]

How are u not richer?

Because, the money I used to spend on smokes goes elsewhere now, just not on smokes, I dont have a growing bank balance just because I gave up smoking.
You dont save money by not smoking, you just dont spend it on smokes.

[Skyryder]

Hell yeah, I gave up to preserve my good looks.





In all serious though, Smoking just destroys a woman's looks, then they plaster makeup all over their shriveled face thinking that'ill fix it, then the putrid stick of cancer goes back in the mouth....


And another myth they spray themselves with lashings of perfume in the misguided beliefe that they smell sexy. Like, even the most expensive perfumes are incapable of destroying nicotene smells.

Skyyrder

[Skyryder]

Most smokers over 35 give up. Those that dont start to look real tired, in my book. The collagen in the skin collapses, which you can see, however the collagen in your internal organs does the same.

Not the only thing that collapes...................but giving up adds a new zest to an old friend..................sensational tooooo



Skyryder

[Jonno.]

I read the Alan Carr book and went from 80 grams a week to having a 30 gram last me and my missus the last 5 weeks.

Although I haven't totally "given up" I am proud that smoking doesn't dominate me any more. The main reason I gave up was because I wasn't enjoying it anymore. I was sick of having to continually do something I didn't enjoy. Health was not really my main motivation although with the money I would have saved in 2 years I can get myself a decent bike (5k) without having to cut back anywhere else.

I only smoke when I'm drinking or when I catch up with my old mates (every wed). But I don't even get cravings now and I can go a week without one without even thinking about it.

It's been about 3 months so far and I'm not any happier but I feel more normal. I feel a lot more fit. And I don't have to go into the servo twice a week and hand over close to 40 bucks.

Read the book.

[Spyke]

I watched alan carrs dvd and it has helped so far two weeks cold turkey.

[rickstv]

In my day a packet of fags was 2/6d, fuck me $330 a month is my mortgage payment.

How the hell do you people afford to do something that makes you ugly, stink and the eventually kill you.:sick:

Rick.

[Skyryder]

In my day a packet of fags was 2/6d, fuck me $330 a month is my mortgage payment.

How the hell do you people afford to do something that makes you ugly, stink and the eventually kill you.:sick:

Rick.

And an Art Union ticket was the same price.....................ten thousand pounds............. first prize.


I think us oldies need to get together for a good old piss up. Entry fee nothing less than a flagon. :yes:



Skyryder

[Grasshopperus]

Good for you mate - take the $330 spend $250 a month on a bike and you still have money free for whores ......... just don't get adicted to them too!


What sort of whores do you get for $80 a month?

[SPP]

Good for you dude. Do it.

I used to smoke. I don’t kid myself by thinking I’ve quit; I just haven’t had one in a couple of years.

Piece of advise. Once you decide to stop, you stop. There is never “just one” for you dude. Once you’ve been addicted you’re fucked. I know guys who’ve stopped for two years then have one as a ‘treat’. Soon it’s one a day, then two… and within a month they were smoking full time again. Fuck that. No sneaky puffs and you'll be ok.

[Skyryder]

Good for you dude. Do it.

I used to smoke. I don’t kid myself by thinking I’ve quit; I just haven’t had one in a couple of years.

Piece of advise. Once you decide to stop, you stop. There is never “just one” for you dude. Once you’ve been addicted you’re fucked. I know guys who’ve stopped for two years then have one as a ‘treat’. Soon it’s one a day, then two… and within a month they were smoking full time again. Fuck that. No sneaky puffs and you'll be ok.


A truly wise man.

There are no ex smokers...........we are still smokers.......................it's just that we do not smoke..............forever.


Skyryder


Skyryder

[Skyryder]

We are winning.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10635870



Skyryder

[EJK]

I heard this advice loooooooong time ago on KB before.

"Whenever you feel like a smoke, wank."


End results may vary.

[Jonno.]

Good for you dude. Do it.

I used to smoke. I don’t kid myself by thinking I’ve quit; I just haven’t had one in a couple of years.

Piece of advise. Once you decide to stop, you stop. There is never “just one” for you dude. Once you’ve been addicted you’re fucked. I know guys who’ve stopped for two years then have one as a ‘treat’. Soon it’s one a day, then two… and within a month they were smoking full time again. Fuck that. No sneaky puffs and you'll be ok.

Sorry but you couldn't be more wrong, but I used to believe that bullshit before I read the Alan Carr book.
Everyone makes it out like you're living a lie when you quit, nothing is ever the same, you can't enjoy life.
What a crock of shit, people give up every day and never start again and don't have any lives.
Even in the name "giving up", you're not giving up anything; you're saving money, time and your health.

$330 a month is fucking rediculous. Buy a bike.

[denefoster]

Chur chur everyone. And yeah, already decided to quit before I posted this, just wanted to pick up some logical speak to use to justify a new bike to the boss ;p The 10th it is. Also same day my partner and I are moving in together.. fun fun.

On the plus side, I probably will give up coffee as well, that's nearly as much a $$ day habit as smoking, for me they go hand in hand.

And Alan Carr's got nothing on a tiny Pole chick. She'll kick my ass if I smoke after we move in.. East European style yo.

[Jonathan]

Just to add my last minute 2c. I love a good smoke! I don't consider myself a smoker because I don't smoke in general any more and I have never felt the "need" to smoke. Just consider it like a chocolate bar. You don't leave the office, shop, library etc. to have a chocolate bar every 20 minutes or so, so why do the same with cigarettes? For $1.20 each I buy a couple of small cigarillos every now and then as a treat for myself with a glass of scotch, a beer or a cappuccino! It is awesome!

[SPP]

Sorry but you couldn't be more wrong, but I used to believe that bullshit before I read the Alan Carr book.
Everyone makes it out like you're living a lie when you quit, nothing is ever the same, you can't enjoy life.
What a crock of shit, people give up every day and never start again and don't have any lives.
Even in the name "giving up", you're not giving up anything; you're saving money, time and your health.

$330 a month is fucking rediculous. Buy a bike.

Living a lie… Can’t enjoy life?

The only people who go through life measuring the length of time they’ve been 'missing out' are addicts who aren’t getting their hit.

Non-smokers don't feel like they're missing out. Non-smoking is just how you are. Life is good. You can run like the fucking wind without all that shit in your lungs. You don’t stink. You get to buy lots of other shit…. $330 is a decent wad!

What I’m saying is, if you were a smoker for a while it’s easier for you become one again.

I’d bet most smokers don’t like being a smoker. “I smoke and it’s fucking awesome!! I get to smell like shit, burn loads of money, and wheeze like an old man at the first sight of a decent set of stairs” ** high fives** Shit no.

So why do I think smokers continue smoke? because they’re addicted and addicts will justify all sorts of twisted shit in their heads get their hit. They may feel guilty as hell afterwards… but they’ll do it anyway.

If you’ve been addicted, don’t kid yourself into thinking you can have social smoke like others may be able to do. The same twisted shit that kept you smoking for so long can easily start again. The only lie is thinking a smoke has anything good to offer. Zealous rant over.

[Fatt Max]

and spending the money on a bike instead. Am I crazy ? Smoking bad, smoking costs me ~$330 a month. I figure I could/should fill that void with a nice 2moker instead.

Thoughts ? :)

First off, fecking good on you mate. I quit 5 years ago after smoking for over 20. I found it so easy that I wondered why I had bothered smoking in the first place.

Its a big ask and spending the money on a bike, and yourself is a great way to reward yourself.

Best of luck mate, your world is now your mince n cheese..

[mrchips]

Good on ya.

I quit Cold turkey 5 years, 92 days, 14 hours & 2 minutes ago after smoking for 25+ years & I won't lie, i found it damn hard.

For me, finally getting my full bike licence + a cheap runabout was my reward. 5 years on & a few upgrades later & i haven't looked back.

Good luck !


fwiw I quit spur of the moment cos i'd had enough of being a smoker.

[Fatt Max]

I heard this advice loooooooong time ago on KB before.

"Whenever you feel like a smoke, wank."


End results may vary.

Yeah, I followed that,

Rather than smoke a ciggie, go somewhere quiet and smoke your peg

I was on 20 a day so now my eyesight is well and truly fucked

Still, who gives a toss, eh......

[Skyryder]

What sort of whores do you get for $80 a month?

Night mares.

Skyryder

[Gareth51]

Because, the money I used to spend on smokes goes elsewhere now, just not on smokes, I dont have a growing bank balance just because I gave up smoking.
You dont save money by not smoking, you just dont spend it on smokes.

Been spending it on wild woman and alcohol have you mate ?......I'll tell Mum on you

[Maha]

Been spending it on wild woman and alcohol have you mate ?......I'll tell Mum on you

I couldn't handle a wild woman Gareth (I own a Honda) and I dont drink that much.

[Bikernereid]

Living a lie… Can’t enjoy life?

The only people who go through life measuring the length of time they’ve been 'missing out' are addicts who aren’t getting their hit.

Non-smokers don't feel like they're missing out. Non-smoking is just how you are. Life is good. You can run like the fucking wind without all that shit in your lungs. You don’t stink. You get to buy lots of other shit…. $330 is a decent wad!

What I’m saying is, if you were a smoker for a while it’s easier for you become one again.

I’d bet most smokers don’t like being a smoker. “I smoke and it’s fucking awesome!! I get to smell like shit, burn loads of money, and wheeze like an old man at the first sight of a decent set of stairs” ** high fives** Shit no.

So why do I think smokers continue smoke? because they’re addicted and addicts will justify all sorts of twisted shit in their heads get their hit. They may feel guilty as hell afterwards… but they’ll do it anyway.

If you’ve been addicted, don’t kid yourself into thinking you can have social smoke like others may be able to do. The same twisted shit that kept you smoking for so long can easily start again. The only lie is thinking a smoke has anything good to offer. Zealous rant over.

++An addict is always an addict they are just in remission, it is the same for smokers and drug addicts or alcoholics. I have been smoke free for a couple of years now but that doesn't mean that those smoking neurons don't fire sometimes when I have had really bad new or am really stressed. It is down to the individual whether THEY decide or not to go back to their addiction, and yes a 'social' smoke is still smoking!!

[Bikernereid]

Chur chur everyone. And yeah, already decided to quit before I posted this, just wanted to pick up some logical speak to use to justify a new bike to the boss ;p The 10th it is. Also same day my partner and I are moving in together.. fun fun.

On the plus side, I probably will give up coffee as well, that's nearly as much a $$ day habit as smoking, for me they go hand in hand.

And Alan Carr's got nothing on a tiny Pole chick. She'll kick my ass if I smoke after we move in.. East European style yo.

Your Polish chick may kick arse but at the end of the day you have to quit smoking for you. Doing it for extrinsic motivatiosn is not as successful as doing it for yourself. The only time I managed to quit was when I did it cold turkey and did it for me!!!

[Jonno.]

++An addict is always an addict they are just in remission, it is the same for smokers and drug addicts or alcoholics. I have been smoke free for a couple of years now but that doesn't mean that those smoking neurons don't fire sometimes when I have had really bad new or am really stressed. It is down to the individual whether THEY decide or not to go back to their addiction, and yes a 'social' smoke is still smoking!!

I suggest you read Alan Carr's book.

Seriously it will make you think twice about what you've said.

Seriously.

Best book I've ever read.

[Winston001]

There is an acupuncture point to help stop smoking. It's behind the earlobe and the method is to put a very small object there (ball bearing, pin head, stone whatever) held on by a piece of sticking plaster. Every time you feel like a smoke, squeeze the pressure point and you'll forget about the smoke. It works.

[denefoster]

There is an acupuncture point to help stop smoking. It's behind the earlobe and the method is to put a very small object there (ball bearing, pin head, stone whatever) held on by a piece of sticking plaster. Every time you feel like a smoke, squeeze the pressure point and you'll forget about the smoke. It works.


Yeah, think my pops did it that way.. seemed to work for him. As for me, I'm armed with a scrip for Champix, Allen Carr's book, an angry Pole and a shiny new '94 NC35. More than enough motivation !

Four more days of the Champix, then no more nicotine for me. Will keep you posted.. and if anyone is keen for rides, I'm sure I'll be putting the NC35 to good use blowin' off steam and keeping my mind sorted :)

[hayd3n]

quit smoking 2 weeks ago!!
just keep telling myself Ive never smoked seems to work so far
+go for a ride

[Bikernereid]

I suggest you read Alan Carr's book.

Seriously it will make you think twice about what you've said.

Seriously.

Best book I've ever read.

I am sure it is a great book and if it works for people that is great. However, my background in psychology tends to lead to me favour tried and tested theory.

[Maha]

I am sure it is a great book and if it works for people that is great. However, my background in psychology tends to lead to me favour tried and tested theory.

I read the book and on day two, I had my last smoke. That was three months ago.
I wont credit the book solely for me now being a non-smker, because, there were parts of the book that I didn't agree with.
I wanted to give up as did Mom, she quit after reading the book.
I know of those who have read Alan Carrs book and still smoke.

Interesting though, that Alan Carr died of lung cancer about 21 years after giving it away.

So whats the tried and tested way?....hypnosis?

[Bikernereid]

I read the book and on day two, I had my last smoke. That was three months ago.
I wont credit the book solely for me now being a non-smker, because, there were parts of the book that I didn't agree with.
I wanted to give up as did Mom, she quit after reading the book.
I know of those who have read Alan Carrs book and still smoke.

Interesting though, that Alan Carr died of lung cancer about 21 years after giving it away.


So whats the tried and tested way?....hypnosis?

I was referring to addicts always being addicts just in remission (tried and tested theory). If hypnosis works great but at the end of the day but if you can give up cold turkey and stay off then you have genuinely done it yourself and are more likely to stay smoke free. Everyone is different and at the end of the day if you can stay smoke free that is the main thing.

[Maha]

I was referring to addicts always being addicts just in remission (tried and tested theory). If hypnosis works great but at the end of the day but if you can give up cold turkey and stay off then you have genuinely done it yourself and are more likely to stay smoke free.

I first gave up in 1989 cold turkey (the day my 1st daughter was born)...lasted six years, one puff at a party one night and that was me, back into it.
Alan Carr says that you are just one smoke away from being a smoker. He was right about that.

This time though, its for keeps.
I know this because I can be around smokers and just love the smell but dont want one.
I am a non smoker.

[Jonno.]

I am sure it is a great book and if it works for people that is great. However, my background in psychology tends to lead to me favour tried and tested theory.

It's not the be all and end all but I've tried a few times to quit without success. I read it and I agree there are points I disagree with however as a whole book I think it's better then patches or will power. And is a lot cheaper and easier.
Since I've stopped I've gone through many stressfull situations like exams, assignments, drama etc and haven't been tempted in the slightest to start again.

I borrowed the book off of a smoker who told me it didn't work, she later admitted she didn't finish it. I always found myself. A family friend tried hypnosis: her next pack of smokes cost $150 :laugh:

I'm not so pretensious in real life btw :lol:

[Bikernereid]

It's not the be all and end all but I've tried a few times to quit without success. I read it and I agree there are points I disagree with however as a whole book I think it's better then patches or will power. And is a lot cheaper and easier.
Since I've stopped I've gone through many stressfull situations like exams, assignments, drama etc and haven't been tempted in the slightest to start again.

I borrowed the book off of a smoker who told me it didn't work, she later admitted she didn't finish it. I always found myself. A family friend tried hypnosis: her next pack of smokes cost $150 :laugh:

I'm not so pretensious in real life btw :lol:

Hey as I said each to their own and some means work better for certain people that others! At the end of the day I will always believe that intrinsic motivation is better than extrinsic motivation and that if you can give up cold turkey then go for it! And I know in my heart of hearts that I will always be an addict I am just making the decision not to give in to my addiction.

And I am not a head shrinking nut job, honest ;-)

[Skyryder]

I've been a bit tied up on other stuff.................so for you 'quitters' are you still winning??


Skyryder

[scissorhands]

I am sure it is a great book and if it works for people that is great. However, my background in psychology tends to lead to me favour tried and tested theory.

Since when is psychology tried and tested?

When frontal lobotomies and electro shock became the rage?

I just dont understand how another drug or the drug your addicted to but through a patch or pill is the answer. I just dont get it.

Herbal support with natural relaxants(verbena, chamomile, kava, etc etc) is such a easy and pleasant way to give up

12 step programs with the powerlessness trip, cause me to worry

[NJ83]

Pick up Allan Carrs easyway to quit smoking and read that sucker. I chain smoked for 10 years and quit easy using the book. His writing style sucks and he comes across as a complete ego monster, but the logic is sound and it works. Best $30 I ever spent.

Couldn't agree more, I quit 5 mths ago after reading that book!

[Bikernereid]

Since when is psychology tried and tested?

When frontal lobotomies and electro shock became the rage?

I just dont understand how another drug or the drug your addicted to but through a patch or pill is the answer. I just dont get it.

Herbal support with natural relaxants(verbena, chamomile, kava, etc etc) is such a easy and pleasant way to give up

12 step programs with the powerlessness trip, cause me to worry

Ok I will bite. Within the sphere of psychological theory for anyone making 'claims' to be taken seriously it is a usual prerequisite that they publish their research in a peer reviewed reputable journal. The peer review system ensures that the correct procedures and ethical considerations have been undertaken and that the research is reliable and valid. And there is still something to be said for frontal lobotomies and electric shock for the right situation and right person.

I am unaware of any research that has tested the Allen Carr method of quitting, although from what little I know about this man he ascertains that one of the things that assisted him to quit smoking was the realisation that he was an addict. As per my other comment, I know that I am still an addict but I am just choosing not smoke each day.

[Skyryder]

Ok I will bite. Within the sphere of psychological theory for anyone making 'claims' to be taken seriously it is a usual prerequisite that they publish their research in a peer reviewed reputable journal. The peer review system ensures that the correct procedures and ethical considerations have been undertaken and that the research is reliable and valid. And there is still something to be said for frontal lobotomies and electric shock for the right situation and right person.

I am unaware of any research that has tested the Allen Carr method of quitting, although from what little I know about this man he ascertains that one of the things that assisted him to quit smoking was the realisation that he was an addict. As per my other comment, I know that I am still an addict but I am just choosing not smoke each day.

I was a six year old when I saw a person who had had labotomy. To this day I can still see the 'fear' in this man's eyes. Electric shock therapy fries the the brain.................I saw my mother go down this path..........and all becasue of a mis-diagnoses. Bit off topic I know but the labotomy thing just bought back ancient memories.

Incedently I've seen every film of Jack Nickolson other than One flew Over the Cuckoo Nest.


Skyryder

[F5 Dave]

Thoughts? Well a few random ones;

Yes buy the Aprilia while you still can find a decent one.
Service the powervalves. They work well but need to be checked as if they seize/wear they will cause greif.
Run decent oil in both gearbox & 2 stroke tank

Smoking ciggies? Don't know anything about that apart from it smells dreadful:sick:. But there have been a couple of comments here that have concerned me. One beer a month?!? :shit: you don't want people to think yer Ghey? Must try harder.
& to the person who started off with 'Remember when Harry Potter etc' - WTF? are you 10? Leave your motorcycle at the door.

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Oh, im quitting regardless.. just seems like giving myself a reason (nice shiny aprilia) will help me out. Asking more about funneling the monies elsewhere, not whether I should actually quit ;p

Exacly what I did in 1999......
I bought a second hand Aprillia Pegaso from my ashtray account...,
and lateron a Harley heritage....
Much better way of spending your money...

Go for it..
I saved well over $35000 so far, and counting,
plus I feel way better myself.......