Chicken strips

[putput]

Done my first 1000km on my brand new hyo 250. Done a few long rides round some windy roads but mainly commuting.....havn't worn much tread off the edges of the tyres.. is it likely i will eat shit cornering on these....one suggestion was that i sand the edges??

[quickbuck]

Done my first 1000km on my brand new hyo 250. Done a few long rides round some windy roads but mainly commuting.....havn't worn much tread off the edges of the tyres.. is it likely i will eat shit cornering on these....one suggestion was that i sand the edges??
Just got new tyres on the 600... The rear a week ago, and got that scrubbed before replacing the front today.

Thing is, just corner "Normally" from now on... You shouldn't have "Cupped" (squared off) the tyre after only 1000k... If you have your pressures were very wrong.

If you feel a dire need to scrub off the chicken strips, then go for a ride in the shingle....
That will do it. Catch is, if you aren't confident to do that, then you will buff your fairings too....

At the end of the day, as your cornering technique improves, the chicken strips will reduce, to a point your bike won't have anymore. Believe me, that is further off than you think at the present time...

[Toaster]

Yeah you could run a file around the edges if you are that worried about it. Or just lean over a tad more each time and wear them off slowly.

Since you commute in Auckland, you could always turn the hum drum task of lane-splitting into an adventure and use the cars as a slalom course and wear the chicken strips off that way ;)

[slofox]

Done my first 1000km on my brand new hyo 250. Done a few long rides round some windy roads but mainly commuting.....havn't worn much tread off the edges of the tyres.. is it likely i will eat shit cornering on these....one suggestion was that i sand the edges??

Them aren't "chicken strips" Them's "safety strips"...:whistle:

I doubt they'll interfere with your cornering actually. If you add lean gradually over time, the strips will slowly shrink...

[emaN]

haha...nice troll.

[p.dath]

You've just started riding I'm guessing (since you have a 250, and just bought it new)?

In which case, don't worry about it. You wont be operating anywhere near the limits of your tyres.

[caseye]

Yeah you could run a file around the edges if you are that worried about it. Or just lean over a tad more each time and wear them off slowly.

Since you commute in Auckland, you could always turn the hum drum task of lane-splitting into an adventure and use the cars as a slalom course and wear the chicken strips off that way ;)

Aw man! toaster he'll get in da poo poos for that sort of carry on.
p.dath said it best, just ride, you are a long way off having no Chicken strips, but one day they siimply wont be there and you will still be riding shiny side up.That is the importnt part.

[bogan]

just find a drain that kinda forms a V in which the chicken strips rest, and do a skid bro :headbang:

[davebullet]

Some tyre profiles make it impossible to completely remove the strips. Sure I don't ride my bike near it's limits, but if I look down the angle of the edge of the tyre, I'd be grounding the muffler before I could remove them.

[woodyracer]

let me take it aorund hampton downs.....ill get rid of them for you :yes:

[CookMySock]

Be careful riding the comet at large angles of lean on rough roads. The cheaper suspension doesn't really do a shithot job of keeping your tyres on the road so just take it easy or take it to the track.

Steve

[Maha]

Sand the edges?
I have heard sanding Knee Sliders but tyres? na!
Look after dem chicken strips, only real bikers have them.....:shifty:

[Laava]

Look after dem chicken strips, only real bikers have them.....:shifty:

Like ape hangers?

[Maha]

Like ape hangers?

Sorry, did I say Bikers? I ment Bakers....

Yes like Ape Hangers Al....ya know, at times, even I try to have a look in the mirrors because of that...:yes:

[EJK]

Nah, use tyre shine. It's fookin mint.

[quickbuck]

Some tyre profiles make it impossible to completely remove the strips. Sure I don't ride my bike near it's limits, but if I look down the angle of the edge of the tyre, I'd be grounding the muffler before I could remove them.
Dave is right.
There is no way I can completely run off the edge of Metzeler Sportecs on my CBR.
Went well off the Pirelli Strada, but the Sportec (both 160/60's) won't let me do it... DESPITE running the hero blobs so far into the deck the peg folds up!

[Wannabiker]

It would take big kahunas to get the chicken strips off a Shinko.....Best not attempted IMHO......

[CookMySock]

It would take big kahunas to get the chicken strips off a Shinko.....Best not attempted IMHO......Yes, but quite ok in the dry and warm.

The only hyo I have seen sans chicken strips was also sans a lot of its paintwork, so there is an element of truth in the above.

Steve

[rie]

It would take big kahunas to get the chicken strips off a Shinko.....Best not attempted IMHO......

I thought for a moment that maybe that would put me on the way to kahunadom but dictionary.com has quickly dashed that thought by informing me that a kahuna is a Hawaiian priest, doctor, sorcerer or navigator.

[ESXB0Y]

IMHO a big part of removing the chicken strips is improving your cornering technique and getting more confidence in knowing what you and your bike can do. An excellent way myself and a mate have found of doing this is a slower speed handling course we set-up in our work carpark with some "appropriated" cones once everyone has gone home for the day - We have a couple of more open sweepers, a tight weaving section with the cones and a U-turn. We caned around this for an hour and a half the first time and every few laps you find you can progressively increase the lean angle. I found it translated directly onto the road, plus the chicken strips are slowly wearing away. Couple that with some hoons out on some of the fine roads out West, and they'll be gone in no time and your confidence and ability will be nicley improved. I only have about 1cm of strip left on the Shinko's on my Hyo. I'm determined to see if I can remove them completely now before I trade her up.

[TOTO]

Iit is a common tool older bikers use to wind up newer bikers by telling them that real bikers have no chicken strips. Its right up there with the knee down mithlology. The truth of the matter is that chicken strips wear out with your riding. The more you lean the tyre in the corner, the more of the tyre you will scrub. Just right normally for your own pleasure and dont worry about the chicken strips. The chicken strips themselves are not something that is going to make you come to grief in a corner - the crappy standard shinko tyres on a hyaosung however are. It is common knowledge that when you buy a hyosung, the first thing you modify is to change the tyres.

When you did the 1000km on your new hyosung, did you wave to other bikers? Did they wave back at you ? How about harleys ?

[The Stranger]

Dave is right.
There is no way I can completely run off the edge of Metzeler Sportecs on my CBR.


Some bikes make it quite difficult also.
Still got half an inch on the XT, despite having had the pegs down on either side. That's a tall bike with high pegs and being a single it's narrow. So at peg down you are carrying a decent lean.
Contrast that with the Fazer which has low(ish) pegs and the pegs quite wide apart and it's a doodle to take the strips off.

[sinfull]

Chicken !!!!

[Smifffy]

http://motorcyclebloggers.com/2006/04/19/lean-angle-chicken-strips/

[bogan]

http://motorcyclebloggers.com/2006/04/19/lean-angle-chicken-strips/

Good article; bit of wtf with the second comment down on that page though
Chicken strips and GYKD aren’t neccesarily linked. I have never once got my knee down in eight years of riding yet i’ve ground down the hero blobs on my pegs and have about 3/4″ of virgin rubber either side of the rear tyre. When I see pictures in magazines of riders with their knees draggin the floor and there is a LOT of air twixt tarmac and peg you have to wonder.
Isn't that whats sposed to happen, lean off the bike to preserve ground clearance to the solid bits, and keep bike upright as possible to ensure good suspension action?

Removing chicken strips and grinding the pegs are easier to do with poor technique than proper technique, so who's really the novice here? ;)

[Dave-]

here' how I see it:

you paid for the whole tyre, might as well use the whole tyre.

and on a less troll note; but seriously, value for money and it's fun getting the bike that far over, but like everyone has said it'll take a while to develop the skill to get the bike that far over, to gain the confidence in yourself and your machine that you can corner at a speed that requires the bike be that far over.

as a newer rider dont sand or grind them off, keep them, and if anyone gives you shit for it tell them to fuck off (in a joking maner), and then find sometihng suitable about their bike to take the piss out of.

[CookMySock]

Isn't that whats sposed to happen, lean off the bike to preserve ground clearance to the solid bits, and keep bike upright as possible to ensure good suspension action? Removing chicken strips and grinding the pegs are easier to do with poor technique than proper technique, so who's really the novice here? ;)Yup. If you are hangin' wayy off it and removing all your strips, you are either cornering it FUCKing tight or moving FUCKing quick.

I've seen a GT250R's pegs scraped as the rider leaned the wrong way. That gave the strips a hiding, but of course it wasn't cornering particularly tightly.


Steve

[Big Col]

I agree with Dave,

[george formby]

If you end up in a situation were you need to remove your chicken strips, an "eek!" moment, don't worry. That little strip of virgin rubber will only be a small percentage of your contact patch. Think of them as insurance.

[howdamnhard]

Nah, use tyre shine. It's fookin mint.

Ha,ha EJK you evil bastard. putput don't do this or you may see your arse. Follow Caseye's advice.
Keep your tyre pressures correct and just enjoy the ride, then all will be well.

[bert_is_evil]

kill two birds with one stone, put the bike in gear on a paddock stand and use your knee sliders to sand the strips off - presto! while it's going you might as well clean your chain too (don't worry, real bikers don't have chicken strips, virgin sliders or thumbs)

[Latte]

kill two birds with one stone, put the bike in gear on a paddock stand and use your knee sliders to sand the strips off - presto! while it's going you might as well clean your chain too (don't worry, real bikers don't have chicken strips, virgin sliders or thumbs)

:rofl:

Can I get the bike shop to do it for me? I'm not very mechanically minded.

[R-Soul]

Good article; bit of wtf with the second comment down on that page though
Isn't that whats sposed to happen, lean off the bike to preserve ground clearance to the solid bits, and keep bike upright as possible to ensure good suspension action?

Removing chicken strips and grinding the pegs are easier to do with poor technique than proper technique, so who's really the novice here? ;)

hehe exactly!!

[bert_is_evil]

:rofl:

Can I get the bike shop to do it for me? I'm not very mechanically minded.

pish, I wouldn't listen those bike shop people, they are bound to tell you chicken strips don't matter, your worth as a human being is not directly proportional to the wear on your knee sliders and other such claptrap. I can't stay to chat unfortunately, I'm off to armour-all my seat.

[The Stranger]

pish, I wouldn't listen those bike shop people, they are bound to tell you chicken strips don't matter, your worth as a human being is not directly proportional to the wear on your knee sliders and other such claptrap. I can't stay to chat unfortunately, I'm off to armour-all my seat.

and look on trademe for used knee sliders.

[Will]

Originally Posted by EJK
Nah, use tyre shine. It's fookin mint.


Ha,ha EJK you evil bastard. putput don't do this or you may see your arse. Follow Caseye's advice.
Keep your tyre pressures correct and just enjoy the ride, then all will be well.

Did you not notice that EJK doesn't have a bike.

I just assumed that he had put tyre shine on his own bike:gob:

[doc]

you paid for the whole tyre, might as well use the whole tyre.


Sort of like this you mean ?

[crazyhorse]

File them - might be the only way you can get them off............. :rofl:

[Coldrider]

File them - might be the only way you can get them off............. :rofl:lend him your nail file

[crazyhorse]

lend him your nail file

hmmmmm! now that would be a good idea, except I bite my nails (damm, did I really tell the whole of KB that!) But, yeah, good idea

[Metastable]

I'd concentrate on riding properly, including proper body positioning. Check out the Keith Code Twist of the Wrist II books or videos. Also, as was mentioned earlier, the suspension on a Comet isn't so great. I really don't know much about the tires it comes with, but I will tell you this. I have seem someone with BRAND NEW tires go out on a track with no tire warmers in 5C temperatures and within a few laps was going knee down all over the place. The chicken strip per say shouldn't make you worry..... so no need to file it off. Cornering correctly and having the suspension adjusted (if possible) is probably the better first steps. If the suspension is all wrong, there is only so much a good tire can do.

[howdamnhard]

Did you not notice that EJK doesn't have a bike.

I just assumed that he had put tyre shine on his own bike:gob:

He,he ye ask him how he got his knee down , elbow down , etc ,etc.

[LBD]

Files or sand paper work fine, but if you want to scrub your tires in the correct way you need a combination of abrasion and friction induced heat to correctly get the surface area to be treated up to the correct temp equivelent of 1/4 hour riding on a warm bitumen surface.

For me, the best solution I have found todate, is to set the wheel off the ground using a paddock stand (or center stand) and use a rotary wire brush on an angle grinder. Pressed against the tyre in the correct position will start the tyre turning and with a little practice the finished pattern will be even around the tire.

The best way to judge it the correct amount of heat has been generated is by feeling the tyre with a dry finger. If done correctly the surface will feel tacky.

[The Stranger]

Files or sand paper work fine, but if you want to scrub your tires in the correct way you need a combination of abrasion and friction induced heat to correctly get the surface area to be treated up to the correct temp equivelent of 1/4 hour riding on a warm bitumen surface.

For me, the best solution I have found todate, is to set the wheel off the ground using a paddock stand (or center stand) and use a rotary wire brush on an angle grinder. Pressed against the tyre in the correct position will start the tyre turning and with a little practice the finished pattern will be even around the tire.

The best way to judge it the correct amount of heat has been generated is by feeling the tyre with a dry finger. If done correctly the surface will feel tacky.

Please tell me this is a piss take. Please.
JUST RIDE THE FUCKEN THING!

[nosebleed]

Files or sand paper work fine, but if you want to scrub your tires in the correct way you need a combination of abrasion and friction induced heat to correctly get the surface area to be treated up to the correct temp equivelent of 1/4 hour riding on a warm bitumen surface.

For me, the best solution I have found todate, is to set the wheel off the ground using a paddock stand (or center stand) and use a rotary wire brush on an angle grinder. Pressed against the tyre in the correct position will start the tyre turning and with a little practice the finished pattern will be even around the tire.

The best way to judge it the correct amount of heat has been generated is by feeling the tyre with a dry finger. If done correctly the surface will feel tacky.


Please tell me this is a piss take. Please.
JUST RIDE THE FUCKEN THING!

Fuck. Spent all day yesterday working on this. Don't tell me now it was a piss-take.
Still waiting for p.dath to offer up the formula for getting the angles right.

[The Stranger]

Still waiting for p.dath to offer up the formula for getting the angles right.

Be careful what you wish for.

[steve_t]

Do this and tilt the bike side to side to get rid of chicken strips.... and who said helmets don't save lives? :laugh:

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[Subike]

Do this and tilt the bike side to side to get rid of chicken strips.... and who said helmets don't save lives? :laugh:

thats just got to be the best king hit Ive ever seen lol, still laughin.

[GOONR]

Do this and tilt the bike side to side to get rid of chicken strips.... and who said helmets don't save lives? :laugh:

haha, love it. Target fixation at it's best.

[p.dath]

Fuck. Spent all day yesterday working on this. Don't tell me now it was a piss-take.
Still waiting for p.dath to offer up the formula for getting the angles right.

Tyres are a super specialised science. I'm with The Stranger on this one. For normal road use just ride your bike. I don't think the tyres require a special scrub in procedure for road use.

[nosebleed]

ROFL. I think i wee'd a little too.

[LBD]

Please tell me this is a piss take. Please.
JUST RIDE THE FUCKEN THING!


Fuck. Spent all day yesterday working on this. Don't tell me now it was a piss-take.
Still waiting for p.dath to offer up the formula for getting the angles right.


And for my next lesson... I will describe the process of replacing piston rings and and honing the bore....all through the spark plug hole, with out dismantling the engine.....

[woodyracer]

this is how i get rid of my hyosungs chicken strips........light work.....:yes:

[The Stranger]

And for my next lesson... I will describe the process of replacing piston rings and and honing the bore....all through the spark plug hole, with out dismantling the engine.....

Oh, it was a piss take.
Tui anyone?

[carbonhed]

Remove chicken strips and practice getting your knee down with this simple technique......

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then do it on the other side and job done :yes:

Instant respect from fellow bikers guaranteed.

[Toaster]

Remove chicken strips and practice getting your knee down with this simple technique......

then do it on the other side and job done :yes:

Instant respect from fellow bikers guaranteed.

Classic! I also like the one with the guy on his brand new Gixxer and all the Suzuki gear, rides off from the dealer shop and gets spat off 20 metres later!

[carbonhed]

Classic! I also like the one with the guy on his brand new Gixxer and all the Suzuki gear, rides off from the dealer shop and gets spat off 20 metres later!

Ahhh yes. Motorcyclists and video recorders... endless opportunities for total humiliation.

[H00dz]

Some pretty good advice in this thread.....

I used to call my chicken strip "Life lines" when I first started...All my mates who used to give me shit about them,funnily enough have all binned at least one of their bikes over the years. As for me touch wood, Never.

I don't have chicken ....I mean "life Lines" anymore not that I have tried to conciencously work of getting rid of them.
Over time, as said early as your confidence grows and techinques improve the "life Lines" slowly became a thing of past.

I'm no more reckless then when I started.

Until then be assured that the "life lines" mean your upright !!!

Safe riding !!!

[LBD]

this is how i get rid of my hyosungs chicken strips........light work.....:yes:

And this is how I loose mine....off the seat, knee tucked in so I can lean further, to ensure all the chicken strip is well and truely gone.

[Grubber]

Good article; bit of wtf with the second comment down on that page though
Isn't that whats sposed to happen, lean off the bike to preserve ground clearance to the solid bits, and keep bike upright as possible to ensure good suspension action?

Removing chicken strips and grinding the pegs are easier to do with poor technique than proper technique, so who's really the novice here? ;)

Well said. Too much emphasis these days on removing the strips. Really can corner without doing the big lean if ya do it right.

[Grubber]

Some pretty good advice in this thread.....

I used to call my chicken strip "Life lines" when I first started...All my mates who used to give me shit about them,funnily enough have all binned at least one of their bikes over the years. As for me touch wood, Never.

I don't have chicken ....I mean "life Lines" anymore not that I have tried to conciencously work of getting rid of them.
Over time, as said early as your confidence grows and techinques improve the "life Lines" slowly became a thing of past.

I'm no more reckless then when I started.

Until then be assured that the "life lines" mean your upright !!!

Safe riding !!!

And another good statement. Well done young man!

[doc]

And for my next lesson... I will describe the process of replacing piston rings and and honing the bore....all through the spark plug hole, with out dismantling the engine.....

Shouldn't be too difficult. Surgeons do it with the motor running. :blink:

[Rooster666]

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[Rooster666]

[/IMG]Hampton downs, 2 lap warm up and get yr balls onboard for max lean angle whilst applying smooth power out of the bendy bits :Punk:

[Cheshire Cat]

go faster, lean more, do a motott trackday;) if you fall off you fall off, who gives a shit just try and land right :laugh:

as for sanding your tyres, get a fucking day job. how pathetic can you get!

[bogan]

go faster, lean more, do a motott trackday;) if you fall off you fall off, who gives a shit just try and land right :laugh:

just tuck and roll that shit aye

[steve_t]

just tuck and roll that shit aye

Duck and cover

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[Chrislost]

this is how i get rid of my hyosungs chicken strips........light work.....:yes:
Indeed, that is definatly the best way! Also the safest... 2 laps or so should be enough, half if you have tyre warmers(heat!)
i still have a cm on the front to get rid of...

[Chrislost]

The best way to judge it the correct amount of heat has been generated is by feeling the tyre with a dry finger. If done correctly the surface will feel tacky.
The tackyness is all the oils coming to the surface,
basicly the tyre is bleeding to death

[EJT]

Some pretty good advice in this thread.....

I used to call my chicken strip "Life lines" when I first started...All my mates who used to give me shit about them,funnily enough have all binned at least one of their bikes over the years. As for me touch wood, Never.

I don't have chicken ....I mean "life Lines" anymore not that I have tried to conciencously work of getting rid of them.
Over time, as said early as your confidence grows and techinques improve the "life Lines" slowly became a thing of past.

I'm no more reckless then when I started.

Until then be assured that the "life lines" mean your upright !!!

Safe riding !!!

Having no "lifelines" wouldn't have anything to do with speeding on the way to the cape last weekend would it??? Its all in evidence!!!

[LBD]

The tackyness is all the oils coming to the surface,
basicly the tyre is bleeding to death

S long as it is not as tacky as some of the comments on this web site....if so you have over done it...

[H00dz]

Having no "lifelines" wouldn't have anything to do with speeding on the way to the cape last weekend would it??? Its all in evidence!!!

off topic EJT LOL thats a whole different thread little buddy

[Sentox]

Can the relative size of your chicken strips tell you anything about your riding style? Ie, I have around 1cm at the back, maybe a touch more, but no more than half a cm at the front.

[Leseid]

I'd be more worried about scrapping your toes on the ground before you'll start to use the extreme sides of your tyres. I've ridden with some relatively inexperienced riders (my self included) and noticed they like to lean ridged with their bikes to try and ware the chicken strips.

I might be wrong here, but I get the impression that under extreme lateral loading the tyres profile deforms and its then when you start to wear your chicken strips away rather than steep lean angles alone.

Think tyre higher tyre pressures help.

[LBD]

What is more telling about riding styles than chicken strips is trad depths across the face of the tire. Measure several depths accross a new tire then again every 1000km or so. You may notice some uneven wear due to camber. I found I would take LH corners with much more confidence than Right handers, after that I put more effort into the RHer's

[The Stranger]

What is more telling about riding styles than chicken strips is trad depths across the face of the tire. Measure several depths accross a new tire then again every 1000km or so. You may notice some uneven wear due to camber. I found I would take LH corners with much more confidence than Right handers, after that I put more effort into the RHer's

What side of the road do you ride on?
If you drive on the left then the right side will usually wear faster and vica versa.
This is partially because of camber, but also right bends are longer when you drive on the LHS side of the road therefore your tyre spends more time on the RHS.

[bogan]

Can the relative size of your chicken strips tell you anything about your riding style? Ie, I have around 1cm at the back, maybe a touch more, but no more than half a cm at the front.

nothing useful without a detailed analysis of your bike and tyres, and even then it doesn't distinguish between the squids and those who give 'the learn', far better to get someone who knows to follow you and critique.


What side of the road do you ride on?
If you drive on the left then the right side will usually wear faster and vica versa.
This is partially because of camber, but also right bends are longer when you drive on the LHS side of the road therefore your tyre spends more time on the RHS.

Also if you go predominantly east-west the one side will wear more cos it stops you falling off the bottom of the world, and vice versa :D

[LBD]

Left and I was wearing the left (of camber side) more than the right....now I am more confident on Right handers than I used to be before that realization dawned.



What side of the road do you ride on?
If you drive on the left then the right side will usually wear faster and vica versa.
This is partially because of camber, but also right bends are longer when you drive on the LHS side of the road therefore your tyre spends more time on the RHS.

[george formby]

Can the relative size of your chicken strips tell you anything about your riding style? Ie, I have around 1cm at the back, maybe a touch more, but no more than half a cm at the front.

I would be very uncomfortable with that. It should be the other way round. When the front goe's it does'nt come back. Get your tyre's checked.

[varminter]

They have chicken strips down at our local Macdonalds... with fries.

[miloking]

I would be very uncomfortable with that. It should be the other way round. When the front goe's it does'nt come back. Get your tyre's checked.


His tyres are fine dude, dont scare him with such a statements for nothing.
Different profiles tyre will have different size chicken strips....front will always have bit less "strip" relative to rear tyre. (i can show you picures of what my new tyres look like before track day and rear has about 1 cm while front has barely any "chicken strip")

[Dare]

His tyres are fine dude, dont scare him with such a statements for nothing.
Different profiles tyre will have different size chicken strips....front will always have bit less "strip" relative to rear tyre. (i can show you picures of what my new tyres look like before track day and rear has about 1 cm while front has barely any "chicken strip")

That's weird... I went for a good blat today and when I got back I had no chicken strips on the back (traces on the right hand side) but the front has a solid 0.5-1cm on both sides and even some injection thingies left on it...
First time for me but if I had to guess I'd say its the tyres AND the bike AND the riding style...

[blackdog]

ye i like mine crusted in the colonels secret, and a squirt of sweet thai chilli

(note: avoided breast references)

[miloking]

That's weird... I went for a good blat today and when I got back I had no chicken strips on the back (traces on the right hand side) but the front has a solid 0.5-1cm on both sides and even some injection thingies left on it...
First time for me but if I had to guess I'd say its the tyres AND the bike AND the riding style...

Yes but rear strip is always thicker to start with when compared to front on new tyres, you agree with that right?

But after track day or some mad cornering rear is usualy scraped to the edge while front has about 5mm left (and even some injection thingies) ....because front and rear have different profile, so when you lean over they wear differently.

that doesnt mean his tyres are "broken" and he needs some "expert" to check them out tho :D that was my point....

[JimO]

back in the 70s we didnt have chicken strips because even 1000cc bikes had bicycle tyres