Turbocharger enquiry

[Armitage Shanks]

Anyone know of a reputable company in NZ that'll take a stock Bike and fit a Turbo to it ?

And, what would the cost be and , any other advice would be nice to hear . Bike is an '09 'Busa . Might attempt it myself but we've just sold the house ( With the workshop) . Bugger, so we're renting for the next year or so.

Just curious at this stage , any advice would be welcome, I'd be looking at retaining the original wheelbase, motor mods only and still rideable, welcome any advice ....

[MIXONE]

My advise.Increase your life insurance.

[Armitage Shanks]

My advise.Increase your life insurance.

Thanks and, Life Insurance ?? No good to me when I'm passed away mate ....:bye:

[jonbuoy]

If your serious you can buy bolt on supercharger kits from the uk and get it fitted by a local shop.

[Marmoot]

You can try ST Hitec. Soichi is good with turbos and he knows a bit about bikes too.
www.sthitec.co.nz (http://www.sthitec.co.nz)

[CookMySock]

I could easily fit a kit to that and set it up on the dyno for you, but if you wanted someone to develop it all from scratch thats a little different. Not impossible, mind, but lots and lots of hours involved building manifolds from scratch without such things as templates or old manifolds to cut up. Then there is the question of my ill-repute... ;)

What price range are you looking at? This is something I'd consider doing one day.

Steve

[sidecar bob]

http://www.bigccracing.com/shop/about.asp?pageId=32

[CookMySock]

http://www.bigccracing.com/shop/about.asp?pageId=32They have some harrrrdcore gear, but priced about the same as a brand new bike. Yes, just for the turbo kit.

And - "We do not supply kits in boxes to customers other than chosen reputable Tuning companies that are on our authorized installers list."

Steve

[Armitage Shanks]

They have some harrrrdcore gear, but priced about the same as a brand new bike. Yes, just for the turbo kit.

And - "We do not supply kits in boxes to customers other than chosen reputable Tuning companies that are on our authorized installers list."

Steve

Wow, so $20K as a ballpark ??

If so, plan B kicks in , ie leave the Bike as it is.....

[CookMySock]

It's 20K just for the bike isn't it? Plus around 20K again just for the turbo kit. :no:

Do it yourself. It's not obscenely difficult. What do you want from the bike? Do you want beeeeeg HP or do just want it to whoosh and scream like a turbo'ed bike and go a bit better?

Steve

[325rocket]

there are lots of bolt on super charger kits available so id go that way.
fitting a turbo wouldnt be all that hard and making a manifold would actually be pretty easy, ive made a few for cars and its not all that hard. i guess you would need something like a power commander and a pretty good fuel pump. This sort of thing always costs about twice what you think it will.

try this LINK (http://www.turbo-kits.com/hayabusa_turbo_kits.html) and it might give you an idea of cost.

[Armitage Shanks]

Thought maybe if it was around say 10k finished I'd contemplate it, as i say I have no workshop. Good to hear the eclectic feedback from you guys ...thanks Steve !

[TripleZee Dyno]

Anyone know of a reputable company in NZ that'll take a stock Bike and fit a Turbo to it ?

And, what would the cost be and , any other advice would be nice to hear . Bike is an '09 'Busa . Might attempt it myself but we've just sold the house ( With the workshop) . Bugger, so we're renting for the next year or so.

Just curious at this stage , any advice would be welcome, I'd be looking at retaining the original wheelbase, motor mods only and still rideable, welcome any advice ....
approx $10k to fit up and get running a "bolt on" kit. No engine mods, ie mild rather than wild.
Bolt on means quite a few parts will actually fit and the lathe, mill and welder will only be used for a couple of hours instead of a lot
You can do it a lot "cheaper" if you do it all yourself.
We all need an extra 100hp
cheers

[325rocket]

Bolt on means quite a few parts will actually fit and the lathe, mill and welder will only be used for a couple of hours instead of a lot

haha so true. nothing ever "bolts on"


You can do it a lot "cheaper" if you do it all yourself.

also true, and far more rewarding.

[quickbuck]

We all need an extra 100hp



Ummm,
I'm still learning to use the 100HP I have effectively.....

[sidecar bob]

I turboed my BMW boxer twin a few years ago, cost $1000 using a compatible car turbo, the rest went on pluming, a pump & regulator, & exhaust bends.
I figured it out & bult the conversion myself. It took aprox 80 hours & makes 9 pounds & is a bit of a hoot to ride. Its still 45 horsepower less than my standard RSV 1000.

[Maki]

Now, why do you want to turbocharge a busa? If you want more power just make sure the revs are up there and twist your wrist a bit more.

[Armitage Shanks]

approx $10k to fit up and get running a "bolt on" kit. No engine mods, ie mild rather than wild.
Bolt on means quite a few parts will actually fit and the lathe, mill and welder will only be used for a couple of hours instead of a lot
You can do it a lot "cheaper" if you do it all yourself.
We all need an extra 100hp
cheers

An extra 100 Hp ? ,I would have thought a medium boost turbo on a 'Busa would have to add at least 200hp , add that to the nearly 200 it's already got and , now you're talking !

[miloking]

Ohh just mere extra 100HP not enough?!
By the way since when busa had 200Hp ??? iam pretty sure its around 180hp(at the crank) on a good day? Also what dreamworld are you living in to think "mild boost" adds 200HP to 1.3L engine ??? I mean thats why we are all driving all those 400HP 1.6L Toyota GT starlets around because you only need high pressure air to make horsepower, no need to worry about fuel delivery, mixture, timing, cooling, exhaust, etc....those are just details, lol

Anyway, if 100HP isnt enough i heard that Rim tape and perfomrance stickers (like Brembo, Ohlins) add another 100HP so unless you already have those on, your busa will deffinately make close to 400HPs with that magical turbo kit....

Either way good luck getting that "400HP" whale with turbo kit thru the corners on a rainy day...and dont forget to post pics of it once its completed! (try to get them before it self destructs, which it will...)

*note above post, is meant in "no hard feelings" spirit...aimed merely to discurage OP from such a retarded idea! (possibly saving his life and lots of $$$$$ while he had to sell his house recently)

[Lurch]

I too can't understand the desire to add a charger to a bike like the 'busa. Not only does it not need the extra power, why would you want to bastardise such a nice piece of engineering?

Unless of course you are planning to add a set of wings, a tail stabiliser and are planning to jump a gorge somewhere?

[PeeJay]

I too can't understand the desire to add a charger to a bike like the 'busa. Not only does it not need the extra power, why would you want to bastardise such a nice piece of engineering?

Unless of course you are planning to add a set of wings, a tail stabiliser and are planning to jump a gorge somewhere?
whats to understand? havent you ever done anything because you want to? no reason, you just feel like doing it, like paint your bike a different color? ride over the arches on fairfield bridge, break the speed limit, enjoy the scenery? or does everything have to have a logical purpose.
You have been in a box for so long you wouldnt leave even if the door was open
(Youre not the only one so dont take it personally)

[CookMySock]

whats to understand? havent you ever done anything because you want to? no reason, you just feel like doing it, like paint your bike a different color? ride over the arches on fairfield bridge, break the speed limit, enjoy the scenery? or does everything have to have a logical purpose. Aint that the truth. Just do something - anything. For fun.

Steve

[Armitage Shanks]

Ohh just mere extra 100HP not enough?!
By the way since when busa had 200Hp ??? iam pretty sure its around 180hp(at the crank) on a good day? Also what dreamworld are you living in to think "mild boost" adds 200HP to 1.3L engine ??? I mean thats why we are all driving all those 400HP 1.6L Toyota GT starlets around because you only need high pressure air to make horsepower, no need to worry about fuel delivery, mixture, timing, cooling, exhaust, etc....those are just details, lol

Anyway, if 100HP isnt enough i heard that Rim tape and perfomrance stickers (like Brembo, Ohlins) add another 100HP so unless you already have those on, your busa will deffinately make close to 400HPs with that magical turbo kit....

Either way good luck getting that "400HP" whale with turbo kit thru the corners on a rainy day...and dont forget to post pics of it once its completed! (try to get them before it self destructs, which it will...)

*note above post, is meant in "no hard feelings" spirit...aimed merely to discurage OP from such a retarded idea! (possibly saving his life and lots of $$$$$ while he had to sell his house recently)

Hey Milo take a deep breath, then a glass of water...... firstly I flipped this post just for fun and , no I ain't gonna TC my pretty girl. The Gen 1 Busa's I think managed about 178 at the crank , the Gen 2 Busa ( like mine ) is good for 144kw or around 197hp at the crank . I'm told the ZX14 might have a few more ponies, would have bought one if Kawasaki were more flexible with their pricing.

It's all about fun, if you got too much power then why not add a ittle more , life's too short and PC bores the shit out of me ......

[miloking]

Why dont you just NOS it, i mean..you realy dont need 300+/-Hp everyday...seriously! (traffic jams,rainy days, cops everywhere...etc...)
So you just blast the NOS when you want to drag off some ferraris, Lambos, F-18 etc.... and it will probably only cost ya like $1500-2000 for the whole kit. (and if done right it will stay pretty reliable as you will only use it every now and then), also if you dont go for long distance rides too much why dont you do some -1 front & +3 rear sprocket magic...i know its not more HP on the dyno sheet but that will feel like another 40Hp right there...and iam pretty sure you will struggle to keep the front wheel down in second gear. (and sprockets will only cost ya like $100 so its worth the fun since they are like hour max to swap)

By the way, iam assuming you've already done all the other "cheap" performace stuff, like exhaust, PCIII (or PCV for your later busa), high flow filters etc (no K&N those are shit by the way)....

[KNCTRD]

Anyone know of a reputable company in NZ that'll take a stock Bike and fit a Turbo to it ?

And, what would the cost be and , any other advice would be nice to hear . Bike is an '09 'Busa . Might attempt it myself but we've just sold the house ( With the workshop) . Bugger, so we're renting for the next year or so.

Just curious at this stage , any advice would be welcome, I'd be looking at retaining the original wheelbase, motor mods only and still rideable, welcome any advice ....

I have had alot to do with Jap cars, bigger turbos, tuning etc, the best lesson i have learnt is "buy a kit that fits" yes it may cost more, but most kits are complete, right down to ECU reflash/Piggyback

If you can fit yourself.. Great, if not ask around.. im sure there is as many "coyboys" in the bike world as we had in the jap car game.

http://www.mrturbo.com/turbo-sys/turbo_sys.html

[blackdog]

already suggested but my opinion is also..........supercharger

this build was done in wellington btw.....

[KNCTRD]

already suggested but my opinion is also..........supercharger

this build was done in wellington btw.....

Ahaha.. that is sick!! i cant believe it fits in there!!

shoud give them a few more ponies!!

[SMOKEU]

A turbo will be better than a supercharger. That way you can fit a nice external wastey and BOV.

[CookMySock]

A turbo will be better than a supercharger. That way you can fit a nice external wastey and BOV.Thats half the fun of a turbo install - all the noise from the thing.

Steve

[Mooch]

In terms of turboing , there has been a couple of busa turbos on the cliffhanger sprints , Spoke to one of these owners who ran mild boost and was getting 230 bhp on the back wheel. He was having minor issue with the piggyback arrangement on the ECU and was looking to sort an after market unit to replace both. The second bike was used during some NZ road speed record attempts , but had issues with getting airbourne resulting in engine damage, (I think the owner is on kiwibiker)

Easiest way would be to look for a complete kit that included turbo / manifold , pipework , rising rate fuel regulator, blowoff valve , ecu , higher flow fuel pump and plenty of development time. Otherwise pm catilover about turbos , he's done all his own work on a Ducati 900 ss based turbo engine.

[marty]

*note above post, is meant in "no hard feelings" spirit...aimed merely to discurage OP from such a retarded idea! (possibly saving his life and lots of $$$$$ while he had to sell his house recently)

who arre you the fucking fun police?

Bolt-on kit from USA about US$4k. Fits under the fairings - only evidence of it being there is a boost gauge on the RH fairing. I rode one in the USA about 3 years ago - unbelievably smooth and powerful, 250hp @ rear wheel on the dyno. When I got home and rode my non-turbo Bus it was like the difference between my TLthou and the bus, when riding the TL after the bus meant riding at full throttle looking for that extra acceleration you become used to!

[miloking]

who arre you the fucking fun police?

Bolt-on kit from USA about US$4k. Fits under the fairings - only evidence of it being there is a boost gauge on the RH fairing. I rode one in the USA about 3 years ago - unbelievably smooth and powerful, 250hp @ rear wheel on the dyno. When I got home and rode my non-turbo Bus it was like the difference between my TLthou and the bus, when riding the TL after the bus meant riding at full throttle looking for that extra acceleration you become used to!

No iam the retarded waste of money ideas police, but if you are American or from hamilton/west auckland you wouldnt know what that means....

Seriously why dont you also add chrome wheels and extended swingarms to you squid bikes....
unless you already have those of course.

[PeeJay]

No iam the retarded waste of money ideas police, but if you are American or from hamilton/west auckland you wouldnt know what that means....

Seriously why dont you also add chrome wheels and extended swingarms to you squid bikes....
unless you already have those of course.
yep, got them, bought a Honda

[miloking]

yep, got them, bought a Honda

Well thats strange because squids usualy ride GSXRs and busas in their shorts and jandals....(usualy with chrome spike windscreen bolts, and skull stickers and turbo kits) and thats where the nick "squid" comes from....fast in straight line, slow for corner.. just like squiddies swimming.....

[marty]

I'm sure all that carbon fibre, relocated number plate and yoshis give the RRRRRRR squid points.

Now THAT STUFF is a waste of money. All about posing, nothing about going any faster.

Unfortunately your chicken strips give it away

[AllanB]

The problem with a turbo kit is that then you'll need to spend big bucks on a extended swingarm, a super wide rim to carry a 300 wide tyre and a gross paint job. Then move to America .........

[miloking]

I'm sure all that carbon fibre, relocated number plate and yoshis give the RRRRRRR squid points.

Now THAT STUFF is a waste of money. All about posing, nothing about going any faster.

Unfortunately your chicken strips give it away

Lol look properly on the middle and last picture, there are bits of rubber comming of the edges but what do i know :)

BTW Yoshi deffinately made it go faster...

[marty]

still looks like a squid bike to me, but what would i know.

[miloking]

still looks like a squid bike to me, but what would i know.

where is your GSXR , i wanna see some pictures too?...there is bit of squid in all of us! (but some over do it with flame paint jobs and turbo kits, and by ridding Hardley Davidson)

[PeeJay]

where is your GSXR , i wanna see some pictures too?...there is bit of squid in all of us! (but some over do it with flame paint jobs and turbo kits, and by ridding Hardley Davidson)

Cool so a Super Squid would be riding a Hardly Drivable, with a turbo, a flame paint job, chrome wheels and a long swingarm, skulls and spikes, while wearing shorts and jandals.
Thats me when I grow up!!

[miloking]

Iam sure that OP was just trolling us with that idea and he would never bastardize his lovely K9 busa with such an attrocities like turbo/supercharge kits.

Otherwise while my RRRRRRRR possibly has some squid points its long long way away from turboed busa...and difinately isnt gixxer (those come with squid points brand new from factory)

[jonbuoy]

Ohh just mere extra 100HP not enough?!
By the way since when busa had 200Hp ??? iam pretty sure its around 180hp(at the crank) on a good day? Also what dreamworld are you living in to think "mild boost" adds 200HP to 1.3L engine ??? I mean thats why we are all driving all those 400HP 1.6L Toyota GT starlets around because you only need high pressure air to make horsepower, no need to worry about fuel delivery, mixture, timing, cooling, exhaust, etc....those are just details, lol

Anyway, if 100HP isnt enough i heard that Rim tape and perfomrance stickers (like Brembo, Ohlins) add another 100HP so unless you already have those on, your busa will deffinately make close to 400HPs with that magical turbo kit....

Either way good luck getting that "400HP" whale with turbo kit thru the corners on a rainy day...and dont forget to post pics of it once its completed! (try to get them before it self destructs, which it will...)

*note above post, is meant in "no hard feelings" spirit...aimed merely to discurage OP from such a retarded idea! (possibly saving his life and lots of $$$$$ while he had to sell his house recently)

http://www.tts-performance.com/busasupercharged.php Not exactly a mild boost.

[dangerous]

Anyone know of a reputable company in NZ that'll take a stock Bike and fit a Turbo to it ?
Not read past the 1st post, but if ya serious I know the guy (in chch) he works from home his work is perticular he is a qualified auto sparky, has made the very tricky exhaust for my turbo, owns and has built 2 GSX1400 turbos and even did a YZ450.

[deanmax]

I have a 2005 turbo Hayabusa and my friend runs a 2004 turbo Hayabusa. Both systems are self developed, very reliable (now) and are user friendly. DON'T buy an off the shelf system. They are very basic, often poorly constructed and will have limitations requiring a lot of development. You could probably get a real world 185rwhp with the usual pipe, filter, power commander etc mods but you won't get the torque a turbo can produce. You need to decide how much power you need and what you will use the bike for. I'm running about 215rwhp on the street and there aren't many places you can use that power. 5th gear is the first gear I can give the bike full throttle without the front wheel lifting at this hp. Suspension and brakes have been upgraded and I have the ability to run at 260rwhp but NZ roads are too rough for this. Remember that power is proportional to fuel and realistically my fuel range is limited to 300km if I'm conservative. You would be looking at about $4,000 to $5,000 NZD for a basic set-up producing over 200rwhp reliably at low boost. If you're serious about following up on this contact me at dean.max@clear.net.nz and we can talk further. We're based in Auckland/Hamilton. Please don't contact me if you're not serious or are one of the many people who won't listen to advice based on experience. Good luck. Dean.

[nodrog]

Lol look properly on the middle and last picture, there are bits of rubber comming of the edges ......

i think you will find that thats other peoples shredded rubber, that you have accidentaly picked up while wobbling around at the track.

[imdying]

I'm slow as a wet week and even my tyres come back from the track with rubber rolling off the edges :laugh:

[miloking]

I'm slow as a wet week and even my tyres come back from the track with rubber rolling off the edges :laugh:

yeah yeah...i didnt say i was the fastest, i was only responding to the "you have big chicken strips so what do you know about turbo hayabusas" comment.....

Also where do you go for track days? Have you been to any lately :)

[miloking]

i think you will find that thats other peoples shredded rubber, that you have accidentaly picked up while wobbling around at the track.

And where did you come from? Do you just browse thru old threads looking for chance to place smartas comments about people you know nothing about?

BTW show me your rubber or bike or something just to prove me wrong that you are not trolling....

[dangerous]

RE: rubber... its simple, no chicken strips 'could' mean the rider cant ride for shit and their riding postion is crap... or it could mean the rider is farking pounding it out.
more simpilisty... melted rubber 'could' mean wrong tyre presures, bad road surface, BAD suspension set up and or crap riding... or it could mean the rider is farking pounding it out.

[imdying]

Also where do you go for track days? Have you been to any lately :)Have only ever been to Ruapuna, and never on a track day, only at open practice. I would like to go to a rider training school though, something like that outfit at Phillip Island.

And where did you come from? Do you just browse thru old threads looking for chance to place smartas comments about people you know nothing about?Top tip: If you ignore any posts you don't like, they disappear amongst a few hundred thousand others.

[imdying]

RE: rubber... its simple, no chicken strips 'could' mean the rider cant ride for shit and their riding postion is crap... or it could mean the rider is farking pounding it out.
more simpilisty... melted rubber 'could' mean wrong tyre presures, bad road surface, BAD suspension set up and or crap riding... or it could mean the rider is farking pounding it out.Yup, I attribute mine to 'raped suspension raped my tyres' :D Totally right though, basically doesn't mean dick.

[Mudfart]

the turbo busas on youbtube are a crack up, dudes doin bout 200kph, changing up a gear and wheel standing it.
the zx14 is apparently the fastest production bike this year with over 200ponies, from factory.- source MCT.
Its a good read. plus it lets me drool ova all the bikes for sale while im at work, we dont have net!.

[DEATH_INC.]

Turbo's rock, DO IT!!!!
Check out these guys (U.S.)... http://www.nlrsystems.com/

[nodrog]

And where did you come from?

my mums vagina


Do you just browse thru old threads looking for chance to place smartas comments about people you know nothing about?....

pretty much



BTW show me your rubber or bike or something just to prove me wrong that you are not trolling....

oh i dont have a bike, they scare me, but i can show you an old rubber.

[CookMySock]

my mums vaginaohhh!


Steve