We want more cops

[Ixion]

Yeah, strange as it may seem. For years now we (local communiuty) have been trying to get general duties cops assigned to Panmure. Without success because the Area Commander always says he hasn't any to spare.

Now I discover at the weekend that Paeroa, with a population (I'm told) of 4000 , has 12 permanent coppers. WTF. We want a couple of them. How come a little place like Paeroa (looks dead law abiding too) gets so many and we can't get any.

I was tempted to lure a couple out with doughnuts and stow them in the boot (brilliant plan, fell through only because the boot was totally full with Mrs Ixion's luggage. - we were going away for two whole nights so the amount of packing required filled the boot and the back seat. I put my overnight bag under my seat. Never have understood that )

Mr Robinson is going to get a bleat about this for sure.

[bugjuice]

so, drag races and burn-outs round your place then...

[Biff]

Going away for a couple of day eh? No cops around? What was your address again? :whistle:

[Fart]

so, drag races and burn-outs round your place then...

I will bring the diesel. :D :msn-wink:

[Ixion]

Going away for a couple of day eh? No cops around? What was your address again? :whistle:

Sorry chum. LAST weekend. And you'd have to deal with the security system, the neighbours and the big dog !

[Quasievil]

Its because Paeroa cops look after a big area and within that area a fairly big population, also some of those cops will be HP for sure.

Have a go at your local MP, he will sought it out :killingme

[Ixion]

Its because Paeroa cops look after a big area and within that area a fairly big population, also some of those cops will be HP for sure.

Have a go at your local MP, he will sought it out :killingme

Clem Simich ? Sort something out? :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme

[Wolf]

Its because Paeroa cops look after a big area and within that area a fairly big population, also some of those cops will be HP for sure.

Have a go at your local MP, he will sought it out :killingme
I thought it was because Paeroa is the gateway to some of the best (ahem) growing areas in NZ...

[Quasievil]

I thought it was because Paeroa is the gateway to some of the best (ahem) growing areas in NZ...

yeah thats also correct, call it one of the gateways to the best province in New Zealand, the police are the areas border control. Its easy to spot a outsider and they generally get nabbed, trouble is so many trying to get into our province needs lots of cops:wait:

[Lou Girardin]

There's more open road and more, ahem, 'opportunity's' in Paeroa.

[marty]

the paeroa staff roster will not include HP - they are based out of hamilton. for a 7 day 24 hour coverage (on call) - with a STU, YAS and CIB contingent, i challenge you to build a roster that uses less than this strength:

1 sgt (day shift)
1 det (day shift)
1 yas/community cop (day shift)
2 STU cops
7 frontline cops

there are 21 frontline shifts left to fill during the week. (early/late/rdo). at least friday and saturday nights are 2 person shifts. one person has to be on call every night. can't roster any one person more than 10 x 8hr shifts in a fortnight.

[Motu]

I can't believe Panmure doesn't have a good supply of cops,it had plenty when I was growing up in the area,the Traffic Cops were based there too.As a little boy I was locked in an ''interview room'' for hours at the Panmure station and then questioned at length by big scary men,my partners in crime getting the same treatment...then taken home by police car - scared the livin shit outa me!

Don't tell me GI has become an up market trendy area that doesn't need a Cop presence....

[marty]

oop - forgot - each person gets 20 days annual, plus 13 extras for public holidays/shift work leave etc. leave accumulation is not allowed. call outs are accumulated as TOIL - lets say 160 hrs a year. with 7 frontline cops, that's 370 shifts leave per year that has to be absorbed. there are 260 working days in a year, but counting an early shift, late shift and RDO in every day (365), with double shifting fri and sat, there are a minimum of 1200 shifts to fill in a year.

don't forget - training, court, sick leave, relieving at other stations etc.

[Ixion]

I can't believe Panmure doesn't have a good supply of cops,it had plenty when I was growing up in the area,the Traffic Cops were based there too.As a little boy I was locked in an ''interview room'' for hours at the Panmure station and then questioned at length by big scary men,my partners in crime getting the same treatment...then taken home by police car - scared the livin shit outa me!

Don't tell me GI has become an up market trendy area that doesn't need a Cop presence....

No police station there anymore. They sold it off years ago. No police either (not general duties anyway, just speed cameras)

And what pray did your Mum say when you were brought home by the law, with guilt written all over you (bet you can still vivdly remember it !) ? And how many did Dad give you when he found out ?

[Motu]

''wooden spoon''

[Ixion]

''wooden spoon''

Worked, didn' it ! :D

[Indoo]

Don't tell me GI has become an up market trendy area that doesn't need a Cop presence....

Theres actually a brand new two story Police station in Glen Innes now. I think its under siege by the locals at the moment though.

[Da Bird]

Yeah, strange as it may seem. For years now we (local communiuty) have been trying to get general duties cops assigned to Panmure. Without success because the Area Commander always says he hasn't any to spare.

Now I discover at the weekend that Paeroa, with a population (I'm told) of 4000 , has 12 permanent coppers. WTF. We want a couple of them. How come a little place like Paeroa (looks dead law abiding too) gets so many and we can't get any.

I was tempted to lure a couple out with doughnuts and stow them in the boot (brilliant plan, fell through only because the boot was totally full with Mrs Ixion's luggage. - we were going away for two whole nights so the amount of packing required filled the boot and the back seat. I put my overnight bag under my seat. Never have understood that )

Mr Robinson is going to get a bleat about this for sure.

Interesting cop to population ratio in Paeroa ... 1 to about 333. I say interesting because according to the Counties Manukau Eastern Area Commander, the eastern area (covering Otara, Pakuranga, Howick, Botany, Whitford, Beachlands, Maraetai) has a cop to population ratio of 1 to 1250.

Not sure what the ratio would be around Panmure and surrounding areas but it wouldn't be 1 to 333.

BC.

[Ixion]

Interesting cop to population ratio in Paeroa ... 1 to about 333. I say interesting because according to the Counties Manukau Eastern Area Commander, the eastern area (covering Otara, Pakuranga, Howick, Botany, Whitford, Beachlands, Maraetai) has a cop to population ratio of 1 to 1250.

Not sure what the ratio would be around Panmure and surrounding areas but it wouldn't be 1 to 333.

BC.

We used to have 4 for about 2000 people. Then they took them all away and sold the police station. So now our ratio is 0 to 2500 !

They say that they service Panmure out of Glen Innes but the reality is that GI and the waterfront take all the resource and we never see a (non HP/non speed camera) cop at all .

It's an ongoing battle between us and Robinson, Hawkins, Palmer and Gavin Jones (if he's still acting Area Commander)

We will not take no for an answer !

[danb]

They have no cops in Pamure because:
1) No police would like to live there because they are scared of the new locals(foreigners)
2) They are hoping all the foreigners are going to kill each other


:killingme

[Da Bird]

We used to have 4 for about 2000 people. Then they took them all away and sold the police station. So now our ratio is 0 to 2500 !

They say that they service Panmure out of Glen Innes but the reality is that GI and the waterfront take all the resource and we never see a (non HP/non speed camera) cop at all .

It's an ongoing battle between us and Robinson, Hawkins, Palmer and Gavin Jones (if he's still acting Area Commander)

We will not take no for an answer !

I think Gavin Jones is now Superintendant and is the Auckland City District Commander (which covers GI and Panmure among others).

[WINJA]

FUCKEN PIGS, THEY SEEM TO HAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR TRAFFIC DUTY

[justsomeguy]

FUCKEN PIGS, THEY SEEM TO HAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR TRAFFIC DUTY

Why don't you apply?? We all know you actually really like cops:devil2:

[scumdog]

FUCKEN PIGS, THEY SEEM TO HAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR TRAFFIC DUTY

Nah man, never seem to have enough time to give out all the tickets that I reckon I need to give out, riding bikes, drinking, sex, they all eat into my ticket issuing time!!

D'ya realise WINJA is actually JAWIN' rearranged???? an' ya sure as hell seem to do a lot of THAT! :D :wait:

[Lou Girardin]

Nah man, never seem to have enough time to give out all the tickets that I reckon I need to give out, riding bikes, drinking, sex, they all eat into my ticket issuing time!!

D'ya realise WINJA is actually JAWIN' rearranged???? an' ya sure as hell seem to do a lot of THAT! :D :wait:

You must do a hell of a lot of riding and drinking! :D

[spudchucka]

Now I discover at the weekend that Paeroa, with a population (I'm told) of 4000 , has 12 permanent coppers. WTF. We want a couple of them. How come a little place like Paeroa (looks dead law abiding too) gets so many and we can't get any.
Paeroa station would be like any other rural station in that they cover a large rural area, not just the wee town that is home to the police station.

They probably have 5 - 6 GDB cops, two or three traffic cops, a boss and possibly a detective and a youth aid cop to cover all of the requirements of what would no doubt be a large area with a population of well over 4000.

I don't know anything about Paeroa ststion, I've never been there and I don't know anyone that works there but that would be my guess as to the staffing at this station.

[scumdog]

Paeroa station would be like any other rural station in that they cover a large rural area, not just the wee town that is home to the police station.

They probably have 5 - 6 GDB cops, two or three traffic cops, a boss and possibly a detective and a youth aid cop to cover all of the requirements of what would no doubt be a large area with a population of well over 4000.

I don't know anything about Paeroa ststion, I've never been there and I don't know anyone that works there but that would be my guess as to the staffing at this station.

I suspect you're right Spud, their population and general demographics seem to match where i am and we have pretty much the 'cop population' you quoted above.

[Lou Girardin]

Got my first ever ticket from a Paeroa MOT cop.
Ahh, memories.

[spudchucka]

Got my first ever ticket from a Paeroa MOT cop.
Ahh, memories.
Did he shout you an L&P when you joined up?

[Wonko]

I grew up in Paeroa, and it's not just the township that they have to look after, there is the small townships that dot the country side in all 4 points of the compass at about the 10 km mark, each have 100-200 people, plus all the farmland to patrol. Not quite the gateway to prime growing land, think more Thames way, but I do know of one idiot that I went to collage with how got caught growing his own.

The thing is, if you have more resources, you can do more with less when it is scaled up. just like one man can't lift half a paino, but 2 men can easliy life a whole one.

[Lou Girardin]

Did he shout you an L&P when you joined up?

Wouln't have remembered him, it was ten years before.

[drummer]

Clem Simich ? Sort something out? :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingmehehehe... I know Clem and even though I am a good nat boy am not too upset to see him go!