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slofox
7th April 2010, 14:05
Got the SV in for a service tomorrow morning.

Been ogling a GSX600R in the shop for a bit. If all goes well I might get to take it for a pootle while the service is being done...I meantasay, the ACC levy is cheaper so it must be safer yes?

Not sure I should do this - might be the causing of "new bike lusts"...pity someone doesn't give me a couple hundred thousand dollars...any offers?

varminter
7th April 2010, 19:55
Oh dear, that sounds dangerous, you'll end up falling in love and we know where that leads.....Do it anyway.

monkeymcbean
7th April 2010, 20:24
You sound almost there to a new bike..(had my eye on it for some time) .

I was only wanting to test ride a bike I had my eye on, before the test ride I actually found myself cleaning the bike I owned ..just incase of a trade.
Well I liked the bike I test rode, traded my other on it, and rode off down the road shocked at how fast i had made up my mind.:gob:
Though I read alot up on the bike before hand.
Really like it though.

Pussy
7th April 2010, 20:34
I'll warn you right now, slofox.... DON'T take a GSX-R600 for a ride unless you are prepared to buy it... you will REALLY like it

wynw
7th April 2010, 20:53
I'll warn you right now, slofox.... DON'T take a GSX-R600 for a ride unless you are prepared to buy it... you will REALLY like it
What he said...unless you like a bit more horsepower and can manage the xtra rego cost of the 750 or thou. Guaranteed you will like the handling tho.

ckai
7th April 2010, 20:53
I suggest you book the chiro in before you take it for a spin Mr Fox :D She'll give you're body a wake-up call compared to the SV.

I've been riding the wife's GSXF while I wait for my new bike and I reckon I'm the other way...so used to being bent over all out of shape the body don't like sitting up prim and proper.

If you take it for a spin, make sure you set it to 'A' :yes: (they're are one of the bikes that have the different settings aren't they?)

Maha
7th April 2010, 20:56
Got the SV in for a service tomorrow morning.

Been ogling a GSX600R in the shop for a bit. If all goes well I might get to take it for a pootle while the service is being done...I meantasay, the ACC levy is cheaper so it must be safer yes?

Not sure I should do this - might be the causing of "new bike lusts"...pity someone doesn't give me a couple hundred thousand dollars...any offers?

Couple hundred thousand?....how good is this bike? its just a Suzuki aint it?......:dodge:

Little Miss Trouble
7th April 2010, 21:30
Got the SV in for a service tomorrow morning.

Been ogling a GSX600R in the shop for a bit. If all goes well I might get to take it for a pootle while the service is being done...I meantasay, the ACC levy is cheaper so it must be safer yes?


Absolutely going from a 650 that puts out around 70 ponies to a 600 that puts out around 120 is going to be safer, the government tells me so :yes:

dipshit
7th April 2010, 22:10
I suggest you book the chiro in before you take it for a spin Mr Fox :D She'll give you're body a wake-up call compared to the SV.

I have found the GSXR to be more comfortable than my old SV1000.




If you take it for a spin, make sure you set it to 'A' :yes: (they're are one of the bikes that have the different settings aren't they?)

You don't need to set it to A. It will be in A unless you set it to B or C. But yes, leave it in A. :msn-wink:

slofox
8th April 2010, 11:45
OHSHITohshitohshit...Now I gone an' dunnit...

You're all right. I liiiiiiiike it...an' I WANNIT!

Interesting test ride. Here's what I thought:

First up, seat position. Not all that different from the SVS. A little more forward, legs a little more back but not so different as to feel weird, unlike the Daytona 675 when I sat on that. Slightly lower to the ground than the SVS. Apart from getting the right hip cramp :whistle: when I got on, it was OK...I could travel on it no problem.

Secondly, engine. Very different. Never ridden an IL4 before now that I come to think about it - all singles, parallel twins, V twins and flat twins.
First difference was the lack of engine braking. Got to the end of the service lane, closed throttle expecting to slow down and it just bloody kept on truckin'. Leading to a frantic search for brake levers and pedals. Front was where it should've been but the rear brake pedal was way out compared to the SV. But the front did the deed all on its own anyway. Certainly, it bit harder than the SV front brake. The rear felt just about the same .
Then there was the sound. The IL4 sounded as if it was revving at about 10 million rpm. When in fact it was way down about 3 - 4000 rpm. Where the V2 would just be coming on song, this thing sounded like a banshee with its arse on fire. That took a bit of getting used to as well.
And the power distribution. There were a couple of times when opening the throttle had less effect than it would have had on the SV. It took me quite a while to find just where the power was hiding (way up the rev range as it turned out). A few clicks down the road this all started to sort out. I got used to the soprano scream and stopped changing up too soon. And on the way back in to town, on a lonelyish road, I found where they kept the power. Although I have to say I didn't push it up past about 10k since it was already reading somewhat high on the speedo in second or third gear - whatever one I had selected at that stage. More experimentation needed there.

Thirdly, the handling. And this is what blew me away. It felt sooooo compact and so tight and so responsive. Felt shorter than the SV although probably not in reality - dunno about that. It just begged to be flicked around and whispered sweet nothings into my ear as it pretty much took itself around the bends...along the lines of "just don't fuck around with me sonny, I'll do the work and we'll be sweet..." This feeling is what sold this bike to me. And forever more blighted the feeling of the SVS...buggrit.

So. There ya go. Wonder where I could find a few thousand dollars..?

Next time, the 750...:devil2:

DidJit
8th April 2010, 13:04
You mentioned the difference in engine braking between your SV and the GSXR — how did you find that going into corners?

slofox
8th April 2010, 13:21
You mentioned the difference in engine braking between your SV and the GSXR — how did you find that going into corners?

Well, not that obvious actually but then I did have a $3000 excess hanging over my head on this test ride so I didn't push it that hard...

Geemsee
8th April 2010, 13:26
You mentioned the difference in engine braking between your SV and the GSXR — how did you find that going into corners?

Having owned mostly Jap multis and only fairly recently switching to a vee-twin, my first impressions with engine braking going into corners was WTF has it gone??? It takes a bit of getting used to, to be honest (well, it did for me) and still feels sometimes that you're a gear too high, you also have to be a bit careful going down too many to avoid rear wheel lock ups!! That said, the grunt of the vee (and the noise!!) coming out of the corners is 'pantstretching', so its worth it in the end!! Just did my first track day at Taupo and after initial nerves was getting the hang of it! :Punk:

DidJit
8th April 2010, 13:45
Well, not that obvious actually but then I did have a $3000 excess hanging over my head on this test ride so I didn't push it that hard...

Ah yes, totally understandable.


Having owned mostly Jap multis and only fairly recently switching to a vee-twin, my first impressions with engine braking going into corners was WTF has it gone??? It takes a bit of getting used to, to be honest (well, it did for me) and still feels sometimes that you're a gear too high, you also have to be a bit careful going down too many to avoid rear wheel lock ups!! That said, the grunt of the vee (and the noise!!) coming out of the corners is 'pantstretching', so its worth it in the end!! Just did my first track day at Taupo and after initial nerves was getting the hang of it! :Punk:

I'll possibly be going the other way once I get my full — from my lil' 250 v-twin to an IL4 — so I'm quite curious of any traits I need to be aware of when I start test riding. Answer's obvious I guess; just take it easy and be aware that there will be differences.

Slyer
8th April 2010, 13:58
In 6 months to a year I'm going to have to make the 650 Twin vs 600 IL4 decision. She will not be an easy one.

Geemsee
8th April 2010, 15:41
I'll possibly be going the other way once I get my full — from my lil' 250 v-twin to an IL4 — so I'm quite curious of any traits I need to be aware of when I start test riding. Answer's obvious I guess; just take it easy and be aware that there will be differences.

To be honest I'd say the increase in cc /power will be the biggest thing to worry about, jap fours these days have nice linear delivery, stiff frames and good brakes, the downsides are more weight and 'fat' petrol tanks (cos of the airbox usually!). Might be worth trying a big twin before you go the fourzzzz route?!

DidJit
8th April 2010, 15:48
To be honest I'd say the increase in cc /power will be the biggest thing to worry about, jap fours these days have nice linear delivery, stiff frames and good brakes, the downsides are more weight and 'fat' petrol tanks (cos of the airbox usually!). Might be worth trying a big twin before you go the fourzzzz route?!

Oh, I'll be test riding as many different bikes as I can when the time comes... :D Cheers GMC :niceone:

ckai
8th April 2010, 16:57
I have found the GSXR to be more comfortable than my old SV1000.

I found the daytona more comfortable than sport-tourers as well. I was told I was a freak :)


OHSHITohshitohshit...Now I gone an' dunnit...

You're all right. I liiiiiiiike it...an' I WANNIT!

Interesting test ride. Here's what I thought:

First up, seat position. Not all that different from the SVS. A little more forward, legs a little more back but not so different as to feel weird, unlike the Daytona 675 when I sat on that. Slightly lower to the ground than the SVS. Apart from getting the right hip cramp :whistle: when I got on, it was OK...I could travel on it no problem.

Next time, the 750...:devil2:

Ah yes, the "torture rack" that is the daytona. It's an acquired taste but, as above, I like it.

The 750 is meant to be the better buy anyway isn't it? :D Is this a post-midlife crisis you going through Slofox? haha... talking about Supersports and all that? I'll give you a high-5 if you buy one. Think of all the fun you'll have.

:banana:

The two things I noticed about the Daytona compared with the GSXF was the handling and the brakes. This is part of the reason you pay a few thousand more for the sporties. To me, it's worth it.

slofox
8th April 2010, 19:32
Is this a post-midlife crisis you going through Slofox? haha... talking about Supersports and all that?




Of COURSE not!!! What on earth made you think that? :whistle:

What I really liked was the way that little machine felt on the road. And the fact that it fitted like a glove...:devil2:

crazyhorse
8th April 2010, 19:34
I'll warn you right now, slofox.... DON'T take a GSX-R600 for a ride unless you are prepared to buy it... you will REALLY like it

You are sooooooooooooooooooooo right :niceone:

crazyhorse
8th April 2010, 19:43
Got the SV in for a service tomorrow morning.

Been ogling a GSX600R in the shop for a bit. If all goes well I might get to take it for a pootle while the service is being done...I meantasay, the ACC levy is cheaper so it must be safer yes?

Not sure I should do this - might be the causing of "new bike lusts"...pity someone doesn't give me a couple hundred thousand dollars...any offers?

Do it! Do it! I went from a SV650 to a GSXR 1000. Although size wise you are going down, the GSXR will still give you a buzz.............. they race them too - and they go well - yip! you will be hooked :lol:

slofox
8th April 2010, 21:49
Do it! Do it! I went from a SV650 to a GSXR 1000. Although size wise you are going down, the GSXR will still give you a buzz.............. they race them too - and they go well - yip! you will be hooked :lol:

I just loved the way that thing felt on the road. That was the bit that bit......mmmMMMmmm! :love:

I'll have to try the 750 to compare the way they ride. Then compare the prices. And then the running costs. And the fuel consumption. And the tyre costs . And the acc levies...an' actually paying...

Some dream machine. I better go test ride every kind of bike in NZ...

That bike sure felt good though...

crazyhorse
9th April 2010, 06:19
I just loved the way that thing felt on the road. That was the bit that bit......mmmMMMmmm! :love:

I'll have to try the 750 to compare the way they ride. Then compare the prices. And then the running costs. And the fuel consumption. And the tyre costs . And the acc levies...an' actually paying...

Some dream machine. I better go test ride every kind of bike in NZ...

That bike sure felt good though...
yip! knew you would like it :hug: Don't think the running costs would vary greatly. But I reckon you are hooked. Their power delivery.............. well, enough said :done:
I will watch this space..................... :yes:

slofox
9th April 2010, 11:46
But I reckon you are hooked.

Yeah. Dammit. The SV felt like an old hack this morning...:crybaby:

DidJit
9th April 2010, 11:52
Sweepstake on how long before Slofox has a Gixxer? ;)

slofox
9th April 2010, 12:44
Sweepstake on how long before Slofox has a Gixxer? ;)

It'll take a wee while - I gotta sell me house to get some money...

crazyhorse
9th April 2010, 18:42
Yeah. Dammit. The SV felt like an old hack this morning...:crybaby:

ha ha ha :rofl: :innocent:

rocketman1
16th April 2010, 20:03
Slofox

Been there done that, I would think twice at your age ol boy before making that move, the SV650 is a damn good bike.
The thrill of high revving engines wears off pretty quick.
V twins have soul.

miloking
16th April 2010, 23:54
In 6 months to a year I'm going to have to make the 650 Twin vs 600 IL4 decision. She will not be an easy one.

Do it! Not to mention GSXR looks way better than SV

Urano
17th April 2010, 00:06
I meantasay, the ACC levy is cheaper so it must be safer yes?

:rofl:

weeell... in in some way it could... :D :D

anyway, i've seen i've came too late: you're fucked. :D the gixer is one of the best value per money now available. i like the k7 more than the k8 anyway...
truly the 750 is almost my perfect bike, but the 600 is very good too: only issue i had when tested was the heat from the exhaust, and oddly it wasn't there in the 750... boh...

if you can, take it. life's one.

Maki
19th April 2010, 10:37
Nice write up, slofox. It's a shame you did not have the opportunity to push it above 10.000 rpm. Those bikes are built for high revs. I have had my baby for just over a year now and when I want an injection of adrenalin I give it full throttle at over 10.000... Just the sound is absolutely awesome... Of course these bikes handle just great and smoothly surfaced reasonably open twisties are fantastic. Try an R6 if you ever have the chance...

EnzoYug
19th April 2010, 11:49
I'd hardly say I'm biased but the GSXR will not disappoint.
4 days, 3 thousand k's and most of a set of pilot powers convinced me of this all over the north island convinced me of this.

and you don't need to loose your lisence to enjoy it either!

SPman
19th April 2010, 13:37
Emachizzit over there?
The K9 600 is going for $11500 on the road, here, atm. (the 750 is $13500, buggritt!....)

slofox
19th April 2010, 13:43
Emachizzit over there?
The K9 600 is going for $11500 on the road, here, atm. (the 750 is $13500, buggritt!....)

The particular one I looked at is marked at $13999. But it is with a dealer. A similar bike - same year and km's - is available in Wellington at $10,500.

I'd like the dealer's bike at the private seller's price...:devil2:

Morcs
19th April 2010, 15:33
Dont buy a gixxer. every other cnut has one.
Be slightly different and buy the superior Yamaha or Honda.

dipshit
19th April 2010, 16:34
Dont buy a gixxer. every other cnut has one..

No, every cunt's got a Harley or Ducati these days. Been to a motorcycle rally recently..???

Morcs
19th April 2010, 17:42
No, every cunt's got a Harley or Ducati these days. Been to a motorcycle rally recently..???
Thats because most of the Gixxer riders are too soft to go a rally.

Havent seen many at the 'Kiwi in the last 3 years... along with the other few thousand KB members...

slofox
20th April 2010, 13:28
Asked them for a "ridiculously generous offer" on that bike this morning...I could almost do it if i could find a spare two grand lying around somewhere...

rustyrobot
20th April 2010, 13:38
Go look through the garage/garden shed and chuck some of that stuff you'll use "one day" on trademe. People will buy just about anything! Especially if it's got novelty value. Got an old lawnmower? Push it through the front doors of ACC, eat some carpet, get yourself on the news saying you are helping with their cuts - VOILA... it's worth a couple of thou.

trailblazer
20th April 2010, 20:15
what will they trade your sv for. I like the gsxr,s im tossing up weather to get a new 600 or a new sv1000.

slofox
23rd April 2010, 15:18
AAugh...I am debating whether to just go get the bike or whether I should "be sensible" and not spend the money that really, I don't have to spare...the bank would probably kill me if they found out I was buying more motorbikes...

Hate it when that happens...

Hiflyer
23rd April 2010, 15:31
AAugh...I am debating whether to just go get the bike or whether I should "be sensible" and not spend the money that really, I don't have to spare...the bank would probably kill me if they found out I was buying more motorbikes...

Hate it when that happens...

Bastard bike manufacturers with their tempting bikes!

I say if you are still thinking about it now then you should really think about it.

Does your bike still feel like an "old hack"? (I think that's what you called it )

slofox
23rd April 2010, 17:10
Does your bike still feel like an "old hack"? (I think that's what you called it )

Yes. I have hardly ridden it since I got on that little vixen of a gixxer...

sil3nt
23rd April 2010, 17:31
So i guess your looking at the '08 gsxr at Boyd. Just curious if you have seen the '07 model just down the road Waikato Yamaha for 2 grand less and only 1000km more on the clock...

dipshit
23rd April 2010, 17:32
Yes. I have hardly ridden it since I got on that little vixen of a gixxer...

They tried to warn you... but ooooh nooooo, it's just a harmless little gixxer.... :mellow:

Don't worry, it was lust at first sight when I first hopped on one at a shop too.

My first thought after riding it - is that it made my SV1000 feel like a agricultural tractor in comparison.

slofox
23rd April 2010, 17:35
So i guess your looking at the '08 gsxr at Boyd. Just curious if you have seen the '07 model just down the road Waikato Yamaha for 2 grand less and only 1000km more on the clock...

The k8 has the new fangled doodads in the engine dunnit?


They tried to warned you... but hooooo nooooo, it's just a harmless little gixxer.... :mellow:

Don't worry, it was lust at first sight when I first hopped on one at a shop too.

My first thought after riding it - is that it made my SV1000 feel like a agricultural tractor in comparison.

They did indeed try to warn me but I was sure I could resist...ha fuckin' ha, fat chance...

Ahhh well, I don't spose I really need a house...

sil3nt
23rd April 2010, 17:49
The k8 has the new fangled doodads in the engine dunnit?Do you really need them :bleh: Can't you sell a kidney or something?

slofox
24th April 2010, 12:59
Do you really need them :bleh: Can't you sell a kidney or something?

The doodads? Yes. The K8 has some midrange...

A kidney? I think they're too fucked, or I'd have a go...

Looks like the house has to go instead. Open home today, 2.00pm...

Pussy
24th April 2010, 14:51
Next time, the 750...:devil2:
Once again... a fair warning...
DEFINITELY DON'T take a sem fiddy for a ride unless you REALLY intend shelling out.
All the good points of the six hundy, but with more power.


YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

slofox
24th April 2010, 17:46
Once again... a fair warning...
DEFINITELY DON'T take a sem fiddy for a ride unless you REALLY intend shelling out.
All the good points of the six hundy, but with more power.


YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

THIS time, I will heed that advice Pussy. On account of I can't afford one - no other reason. EDIT: Actually, there IS another reason. Rego fees and ACC levies...I figure that in 70 years, I will make back in cheaper rego fees, the money I have to shell out for the gixxer...

Oh and I have started fiddling money between accounts and have booked the touch up guys to fix a couple of paint scrapes on the SV...guess that means I'm doomed, huh?

Movistar
24th April 2010, 22:48
THIS time, I will heed that advice Pussy. On account of I can't afford one - no other reason.

He couldn't afford one either, so he bought two...