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Fart
18th May 2005, 10:09
Police finally catch up to motorcyclist after he bragged on Internet posting. Officer recognizes bragging post on Internet. Man charged in February high-speed chase :killingme :killingme

By Gina Mace

Special to the Beacon Journal

NORTON - A motorcyclist who outran a Norton police officer during a high-speed chase in February was arrested after the officer identified the cyclist through an Internet post bragging about the incident on the Star Boyz Web site.

Raef Canter, 18, of New Franklin, was 17 on Feb. 14 when he took a 17-year-old friend for a ride on his 1988 Suzuki GSX-R 750 around 2:30 a.m.

He faces charges of delinquency by reason of fleeing police, reckless operation, speeding, no motorcycle endorsement, unauthorized use of plates, obstructed plate and failure to obey a traffic control device.

Norton police officer Dennis McDonald was patrolling state Route 21 when he clocked the bike in excess of 100 mph. He turned and gave chase, but called off the pursuit as the bike neared Fairlawn.

McDonald spotted the bike again on Medina Road near Acme Fresh Market in Bath Township. As he tried to get close enough to get a plate number and description, the driver spotted a Fairlawn cruiser and sped up.

``I wasn't in pursuit,'' McDonald said. ``I wanted to get a better description of the bike in case we saw it again.''

McDonald continued to follow the bike as best he could, as the motorcyclist rode 50 to 60 mph on Copley Road.

``He was taking the curves pretty slowly, driving pretty responsibly,'' McDonald said.

Once the cyclist cleared the railroad tracks at Copley Circle, he accelerated to more than 140 mph, McDonald said.

Bragging on Internet

As pursuits go, this seemed destined to be the one that got away -- until the officer heard about a post on StarBoyz.com, the Web site of a group of extreme motorcycle stunt riders known for their antics on public highways.

In an April 28 post under the subject ``Tales from the Streets FTP Style,'' someone who called himself ``rc138705'' bragged about outrunning three cruisers while carrying a passenger.

FTP stands for ``F--- The Police.''

``My friend comes over on (sic) night and he wants to go for a ride so I take him out on 21 and open the bike out well my luck a Norton cop passes on the other side when I was slowing down, I was doing about 90, I didn't really think he would try to chase a bike so I speed up to about 120... ''

McDonald said he knew when he read the post that the writer was the cyclist he chased in February.

So he joined the Web site, read other posts ``rc138705'' had written and discovered the cyclist was planning to sell the bike he was riding the night of the pursuit.

A motorcycle enthusiast himself, McDonald owns a newer model of the same bike. So, he e-mailed ``rc138705'' and expressed an interest in buying it.

``We e-mailed back and forth five or six times,'' McDonald said. ``I asked different questions about the bike and pretended that I didn't read the section about the police chase, that all I did was read the classified ads.''

When the cyclist e-mailed McDonald his phone number, McDonald traced it to Canter.

McDonald arranged to meet Canter on Saturday so that McDonald could look over the bike.

When they met, McDonald said he mentioned a post he read in the classified section that intimated that Canter's bike had been used to outrun the police.

``I asked him what that was about,'' McDonald said. ``He told me: `That's all I've done on this bike is run from the cops.' He said: `Every time I go out, they chase me.' ''

McDonald said Canter then told him the story of the February chase, and even told him that he could read the whole story on the Web site.

``He got all excited that I was interested in the story,'' the officer said, ``and started bragging away about it.''

Badge revealed

McDonald said he asked to test-drive the bike, and Canter said he would ride it first to warm it up. When he pulled back into the driveway, a Norton cruiser pulled in behind him.

``He didn't know why they were there,'' McDonald said. ``He started coming up with excuses, telling them I was there to buy the bike and he knew it had bad plates on it.''

That's when McDonald flashed his badge.

``I told him, `I'm the officer you ran from on 21,' '' McDonald said. ``He got white as a ghost and just stood there.''

Reached by phone Monday, Canter said he has been riding for about 10 years, starting on dirt bikes. He said he got the idea to run from police by reading the Star Boyz Web site.

``The Star Boyz do it. Everyone else on that Web site does it. I know a lot of people who do it and they get away with it and tell their stories,'' Canter said. ``I knew he couldn't catch me if I tried to get away. I didn't know it was a serious thing.''

`An everyday ride'

Canter said he usually did his fast riding late at night, and he stayed in the middle of the road so that cars would see the bright light from the motorcycle and wouldn't pull out into its path.

``It's dangerous,'' Canter said, ``but it didn't feel crazy. It felt normal to me. Just an everyday ride, really.''

Canter said he doesn't smoke or do drugs. He said riding is a way to fight boredom.

``I'd rather hang out with people who outrun cops,'' he said, ``than people who sit around and smoke dope.''

But, Canter said, his running days are over.

``I made a bad choice that night,'' he said. ``There's no way I'd ever run again.''

He was booked Saturday by Norton police and released pending an appearance in juvenile court.

McDonald, who has been riding for nine years, said he has nothing against stunt cyclists.

``When you get on the bike, it's a rush,'' he said. ``They're made to go fast and you want to go fast.

``If they're doing the shows on the track, fine,'' he said. ``But on Ohio roads with potholes -- if Canter had hit a pothole where I'd clocked him, we would have two dead 17-year-olds.''

John
18th May 2005, 10:11
Thats so awsome!

scumdog
18th May 2005, 10:17
Old police saying: "They have to be lucky every time, we only have to be lucky once" (and it costs them) :msn-wink: :wait:

Fart
18th May 2005, 10:21
I used to know a few mates who races production bikes. They would test their bikes on the road and constantly have to outrun the cops.

zadok
18th May 2005, 10:26
Sounds like it won't be his last time even though he got caught out this time. :nono:
At 18 it looks like he can handle a bike well.

Marty :ride:

bear
18th May 2005, 10:37
Good story, I've often wondered if the details riders put in these forums about riding on the road could get them into trouble with the fuzz?
Not sure how it would be applied in NZ, but could catch on in the future.

Ramius
18th May 2005, 10:50
Hahahaha...P*ssed myself laughing at that one! Good on the Officer of that unit!

ManDownUnder
18th May 2005, 11:01
LIKE IT!!!!

Reminds me of that Billy Connelly saying "Many a man's broken his own nose with his mouth"...

... kinda the same really! THAT'S JUSTICE - LOVE IT!

White trash
18th May 2005, 11:35
I've always wondered why people (this forum included) spend so much time spouting on about how they're running or have run from the five-oh. Like there's some sort of skill involved?

Now running from an ambulance, that takes balls........

scumdog
18th May 2005, 11:41
I've always wondered why people (this forum included) spend so much time spouting on about how they're running or have run from the five-oh. Like there's some sort of skill involved?

Now running from an ambulance, that takes balls........

Well actually WT old chap, it's often the 'balls' that will put you IN the ambulance.... :msn-wink:

Eurodave
18th May 2005, 11:44
Another example of 'the lllooonnnggg arm of the law'!

White trash
18th May 2005, 11:45
Well actually WT old chap, it's often the 'balls' that will put you IN the ambulance.... :msn-wink:

Common occurence mate.

Lying in a house paddock, 'bout thirteen kays south of Tokoroa after being highsided through a fence at xyzkph, thinking I'll probably die before the ambo arrives. My travelling companion who witnessed the whole incident from his 1200 Bandit leans over the fence and goes, "You want to keep going to Hamilton or should we head back to Wellington?"

John
18th May 2005, 11:47
Common occurence mate.

Lying in a house paddock, 'bout thirteen kays south of Tokoroa after being highsided through a fence at xyzkph, thinking I'll probably die before the ambo arrives. My travelling companion who witnessed the whole incident from his 1200 Bandit leans over the fence and goes, "You want to keep going to Hamilton or should we head back to Wellington?"
BAHAHA! now thats real riders :lol:

Storm
18th May 2005, 12:35
We're not worthy! :not: We're not worthy :not:

hondacmx450
18th May 2005, 15:45
i think a lot of ppl have done it but you always get nicked in the end i know first hand rode from auckland to wellington for a mates wedding
left a cop on the desert rd came back two days later just rideing and shit cop on my ass and yip same cop
i stoped no were to run that day he had the rego
got 1/2 a year walking and riding in the big yellow bus and 120 comuinity service
if you going to speed be ready to run thay always get there man its just a matter of time and the fines man :nono: :nono:

Teflon
18th May 2005, 16:20
Now running from an ambulance, that takes balls........

Yeah, before they cut your leathers off... Bastards.

Sensei
18th May 2005, 17:33
Is it still called a runner if you don't know they are chasing you ??? Some of these New 1000cc bike must be able to go quite fast now adays which could lead to Police chasing them for speeding . :nono: :ride: :devil2:

inlinefour
18th May 2005, 17:43
Is it still called a runner if you don't know they are chasing you ??? Some of these New 1000cc bike must be able to go quite fast now adays which could lead to Police chasing them for speeding . :nono: :ride: :devil2:

They tell me if your going to fast then they don't bother, just throw out a spike strip and thats the end of it...

Don't know if its true or not, but it'd do the trick :devil2:

Ramius
18th May 2005, 18:35
Don't know if this has been posted on here before, but this is what happens when you piss off the police and try to run on a motorcycle...

Sorry about it being 1.5mb.

gav
18th May 2005, 18:49
WEll he wasnt running from the cops as such, He'd robbed a bank and demanded a sportsbike as a getaway vehicle, this is how the cops caught him. Hey, at least the guy bragging wasnt bullshitting was he?

Sensei
18th May 2005, 18:52
They tell me if your going to fast then they don't bother, just throw out a spike strip and thats the end of it...

Don't know if its true or not, but it'd do the trick :devil2:

Say what ?????????????????????? Put spikes down for a bike I don't think so
Bloody hope not . Holes in my new tyres NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !

madboy
18th May 2005, 19:08
So I shouldn't mention the highchair wheelie at 299km/h I did past the highway patrol at 6.53am on 3 April 2005 on State Highway 1, Porirua on my yellow GSXR1000 rego 50SUK, and I really shouldn't mention my name is Bruce and I live at... :whistle:

I still to this day fail to understand why the cops even bother chasing sometimes, I really do. It's like, fast bike vs overweight car. Duh?? If they don't get a plate, don't bother.

But getting pinged off the net? Oh bad luck dude... You'll know better next time :msn-wink:

Da Bird
18th May 2005, 23:05
Had a similar experience recently where I put a recidivist drunk driver on the "Wanted" section of Police 10-7 and before I knew it, I was getting emails about a thread on the Smile City forums about the wanted person - started by a family member of the wanted woman.

She is now serving an 18 month prison sentence.

BC.

N4CR
18th May 2005, 23:09
Damn I feel sorry for that guy... and he is a criminal :o

Whenever I see footage like that it shocks and saddens me about how vulnerable bikers really can be :no:

Ohh well....

Zed
18th May 2005, 23:30
``I told him, `I'm the officer you ran from on 21,' '' McDonald said. ``He got white as a ghost and just stood there.''Haha, the 'bragger' got what he deserved.

Bravo to the cop for his outstanding detective work!!

scumdog
18th May 2005, 23:36
I still to this day fail to understand why the cops even bother chasing sometimes, I really do. It's like, fast bike vs overweight car. Duh?? If they don't get a plate, don't bother.
:msn-wink:

Cos if you follow them for long enough you get to see them fall off... :yes:

250learna
19th May 2005, 00:11
that guy deserves it, if he kept his mouth shut he wouldnt be in that mess,
he also had a passenger, that not cool :no:
its your life, gamble by all means, but dont do it with others lives
as that cop said, if he hit a pothole that two dead 17year olds

ohh and im sure i read on here somwhere about a guy going to ferry in wellington and speeding and he went for ages without checking his mirrors, and when they pulled him up and said why he didnt stop he said because i didint see you :ride:
think they let him off with max charge without having to go to court

Phurrball
19th May 2005, 00:20
Cos if you follow them for long enough you get to see them fall off... :yes:

Said in jest no doubt, but *bad taste* nonetheless! :nono:

The police have a choice, and no doubt policies in place regarding pursuit - but there has been the odd high profile one that falls into the 'could have done better basket'.

Lou Girardin
19th May 2005, 08:26
Yeah, before they cut your leathers off... Bastards.

OK, next time you bin, tell them to remove them normally. :whistle:

Sniper
19th May 2005, 09:36
Hehehe, serves a big mouth right

mikey
19th May 2005, 11:16
braggin is coooooooooooooooool

White trash
19th May 2005, 11:27
braggin is coooooooooooooooool

Only if ya got something real to brag about tough guy.

mikey
19th May 2005, 11:47
Only if ya got something real to brag about tough guy.

like running away from buses with sirens??????????// yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhh
\

or even TOUGHER

falling off ya bike whilst doing wheelies.



man thats some tough shit.

Biff
19th May 2005, 11:50
They tell me if your going to fast then they don't bother, just throw out a spike strip and thats the end of it...

Don't know if its true or not, but it'd do the trick :devil2:

I believe I read recently (here?) that some cops who put a spike strip down for a biker are now facing charges for reckless endangerment or something like that. The spikes worked all right, but I believe the biker broke his back and several other bones when his tyres exploded and he was thrown from the bike when he ran over the strip.

Or maybe I'm dreaming again.......

White trash
19th May 2005, 11:53
falling off ya bike whilst doing wheelies.



man thats some tough shit.

You damn right that's some tough shit, Junior.

I got more battle scars from crashing bikes doing thoroughly dumb shit in one year, than a little CBR riding pissant like you could hope to acheive in a lifetimes riding.


I'm the man.

Da Bird
19th May 2005, 14:59
I believe I read recently (here?) that some cops who put a spike strip down for a biker are now facing charges for reckless endangerment or something like that. The spikes worked all right, but I believe the biker broke his back and several other bones when his tyres exploded and he was thrown from the bike when he ran over the strip.

Or maybe I'm dreaming again.......

Think you might be dreamin' if it NZ cops you are talking about... we aren't allowed to use spikes on bikes for that very reason... too much potential for strife. If it was in NZ, I would not like to be those cops.

BC

Zed
19th May 2005, 15:11
braggin is cooooooooooooooooolI guarantee your *mate* here didn't think his bragging was "coooooooooooooooool" once they cuffed him and led him away mikeeeey!

Ps. surely your adolescent signature pic isn't bragging is it?? Especially without gloves and on a public footpath and all! :D

Fart
19th May 2005, 17:16
Anyone here done a runner from the cops?

Lou Girardin
19th May 2005, 17:20
Anyone here done a runner from the cops?

Define "runner". Does the cop have to be following with flashers going or does pissing off as soon as his brake lights go on count.

Fart
19th May 2005, 19:07
Trying to out run a cop car. :ride:

Zed
19th May 2005, 21:36
Anyone here done a runner from the cops?You first Mr Blow-off? Pooh you stink! :nono:

White trash
20th May 2005, 07:42
Ps. surely your adolescent signature pic isn't bragging is it?? Especially without gloves and on a public footpath and all! :D

Nah, that's the path down to his mums clothes line.

mikey
20th May 2005, 12:17
Nah, that's the path down to his mums clothes line.

i dont have a clothes line,


i put clothes on the fence.


get them back after i bash the somalian neighbours walking down the street with my clothes opn then i wash them an put them on the fence to dry an then...........

madboy
20th May 2005, 13:28
Anyone here done a runner from the cops?Every friggin day :no: :no:

By the way, my name is [insert here] and I live at [insert here] and I really really want to get arrested pleeeeeeeeaaaaaassssseeee