Non-leather boots?

[Spazman727]

I know you will all laugh at me and ridicule me, but I am vegetarian and am opposed to using leather. I was wondering if anybody knows of any motorcycle boots and/or gloves that arn't made of leather? It's easy enough to get non-leather pants and jackets but I havnt been able to find reasonably priced boots or gloves.

Any help would be much appriciated.

[onearmedbandit]

How do you feel about Kangaroos?

[Spazman727]

They're animals arnt they?

[onearmedbandit]

But they're Australian.

[grusomhat]

A quick search seems to indicate that Sidi make vegan friendly motorcycle boots. Have you tried searching google for non-leather boots? There's quite a few hits. If you can get the make and model of a type of boot you might be able to find a NZ stockist, or a shop might be able to bring some in.

EDIT: look for boots made of lorica

[Spazman727]

Cool, thank you

[slofox]

Would cardboard be OK? :whistle:

On a more serious note: Just curious here. What about if the leather came from a cow that had died of old age rather than in an abattoir? Would that make a difference to how you felt about leather boots? (Serious question BTW.)

[rustyrobot]

Boots
I ride both on-road and off-road and both require very different boots. There is a much greater slection of on-road boots thebn off-road boots but luckily there are both. One thing is that almost all of the higher-end racing boots are made out of promarily synethic leather but some do have leather parts, but not all.

Alpinestars currently does not make nay vegan boots, but in an email they acknowledged "We understand this is an important issue so it is possible that there will be leather-free gloves in boots in the near future." If they do change their lineup I will post it here.

Sidi makes a lot of vegan boots made from Lorica, though most of their vegan boots are more of a racer, than a cruiser style. The following boots are vegan Strada Evo Te-Por, Strada Evo-Air, Sport Te-Por (bit less racy looking), Way Te-Por, Way Te-Por Mega (available in wide sizes), Scorpion Air (short sneaker style boot), Champion Air, their entire line of racing boots are vegan and can be seen here http://www.motonation.com/sidistreetracing.htm. Amazingly Sidi also make two vegan bots designed and sized for women Jasmine Te-Por, and the B2 Ladies.
The 2006 Sidi Force SRS are vegan and a high quality MX boot. They are still available from a few sources, I just purchased mine from Rocky Moto.
Joe Rocket currently does not make any vegan boots

Oxtar appears to make some vegan boots, but have not replied to my email to confirm they do yet.
Setup boots are supposed to be made at the same factory as Sidi but are a lower cost alternative. They d make a few vegan boots and may be the highest quality lower cost motorcycle boot line out there. There Vision is a nice no frills race boot, and their Sunrise boot is a nice all-around riding/touring boot.

Alt-berg is a U.K. boot maker who makes custom boots that are supposed to be of a very high quality. Though they do not offer the protection of some of the motorcycle specific boots, they appear to be very sturdy. According to their website they make vegan boots for an additional 25%. Click here for a list of their motorcycle boots.

Vegetarian Shoes makes a 14 Eye Boot, an Engineer boot, and a Paraboot which are all available from Mooshoes in the U.S. I do not recommend any of these for riding protection, they will offer minimal protection but I would count them as true motorcycle boots.

Scott vegan motocross boot Scott Genius. They often some serious protection and do so at a high dollar cost.

Should be a good starting point.

[Spazman727]

Would cardboard be OK? :whistle:

On a more serious note: Just curious here. What about if the leather came from a cow that had died of old age rather than in an abattoir? Would that make a difference to how you felt about leather boots? (Serious question BTW.)

I guess so, but i don't know if thats possible. The boots I have at the moment are second hand (came with my bike) so hopefully they'll last a while.

[slofox]

I guess so, but i don't know if thats possible. The boots I have at the moment are second hand (came with my bike) so hopefully they'll last a while.

It's a difficult choice I think. Seems a pity to waste resources that are lying around (like dead cows f'rinstance). But I do take your point about farmed animules, abattoirs etc. Not my own personal choice, but you are free to make your choices as you see fit and you will get no opposition from me.

The Lorica boots sound pretty good from what I have found just now from a brief search. Might be the way to go. IF you can find 'em...bound to be available online if not retail in NZ...

[Spazman727]

Sweet, thanks for the advice.

[Supermac Jr]

vegan friendly motorcycle boots.

Now there's a though....:clap:

[vifferman]

Actually, an increasing number of boots are made from synthetics, possibly because it's easier, and they're easier to waterproof? The Lorica ones are hard to tell from leather.

[Mike Wilson]

Good on you for having morals and sticking to them. A while ago Moto cross boots were plastic. Perhaps try an off road shop........Seeya Mike Wilson owner Jet Leathers 068787949

[hellokitty]

Hey Spazman - look on trademe at motorbike boots and type in synthetic leather and there are cool looking road boots as well as MX boots - prices on the road boots are good too - I noticed a few the other day when looking for road racing style boots

[davebullet]

Avoid the dri-rider boots. The synthetic upper cracks easily (< 18 months old) then leaks like a sieve.

[Spazman727]

Ok, thanks. Yeah, I'll avoid dri-riders. Thats a bit crap since they're supposed to keep you dry.

[vegan_virgin]

good thread- been having this issue myself....seesm theres lots of synthetic gloves/boots available in the us but the cost to ship added to the nz customs outrageous charges put most of them out of my price range :( that said, aerostitch do some nice gloves called 3-season vegan which i shall be getting an order in for

[Spazman727]

Yeah, Ive seen those US ones too but I dont really want to mail order them without trying them on first, especially boots.

[Jackal]

Don't know what the fuss it about guys. If the cow eats grass does that not make him a vegetarian anyway?

[240]

This a wind up right???? vegetarian??,synthetic boots?? mate shouldn't you be on the bloody greenpeace forum or something else equally gay?

[Spazman727]

I don't think greenpeace would know much about bike boots. No its not a wind up, I knew id get some bigoted single minded fuckwits replying to this so say what you want.

[miz]

Non leather will outperform leather boots

here is a start

https://veganpeak.com/vegan-motorcycle-boots/

time to grow up if to join the big guys :niceone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSpglxHTJVM

available on netflix etc.

cheers

[caseye]

Non leather will outperform leather boots

here is a start

https://veganpeak.com/vegan-motorcycle-boots/

time to grow up if to join the big guys :niceone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSpglxHTJVM

available on netflix etc.

cheers



What a load of Twaddle!
Boots, jackets, there is STILL No Substitute for leather.
Go push yer barrow somewhere else!:shifty::shifty:

[Blackbird]

The Lorica boots sound pretty good from what I have found just now from a brief search. Might be the way to go. IF you can find 'em...bound to be available online if not retail in NZ...

My Alpinestar boots are Lorica and I've had them for about 5 years so Lorica must be pretty common by now. Incidentally, the boots have remained completely waterproof since buying them.

[SaferRides]

My Alpinestars SMX Plus boots are made from Lorica and are in better condition than a pair of leather Dainese boots bought at the same time 6 years ago.

I haven't crashed in them though.



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[Jeeper]

A 9.5 year old thread resurrected. Must be record of some sort.

[miz]

What a load of Twaddle!
Boots, jackets, there is STILL No Substitute for leather.
Go push yer barrow somewhere else!:shifty::shifty:

hah!

well it did not take long to find real proof, here is a bloke from down under, 3 years old though


I am so impressed with the performance of the Rukka pants that took the brunt of the fall and slide I returned them to the Australian agent with a letter of appreciation. If you went to the Rukka/Innotesco stall at the World Superbikes, you would have seen my pants on display.

https://motorbikewriter.com/rider-crash-tests-rukka-motorcycle-pants/

and will only get better with new tech, I bet Temper foam are not made of leather :mad:;)

https://www.nasa.gov/ames/spinoff/temper_foam_1981/

personally I only ride using Rukka and have crashed a few times, with excellent results :clap:

[miz]

A 9.5 year old thread resurrected. Must be record of some sort.

well as Arnold says ; I'll be back! :laugh:

[miz]

finding non leather 10 years ago you were pretty hardcore trying to find it

as more people opt in for vegan/new materials more money will flow to develop new materials with higher level of protection and performance

if anyone still get injured I do recommend new series with Tony Stark :2thumbsup of things coming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwsrzCVZAb8

vegan is pretty new but real and not all fancy stuff, here is a talk from a bloke from down under, former sniper, who used to run over animals for fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FCsyK4aRXQ

hi tech materials for bikers is not a bad thing so keep an eye open when you select your new gear, probably many have already bought new materials, not knowing about it

Cheers

[F5 Dave]

hah!

well it did not take long to find real proof, here is a bloke from down under, 3 years old though


I am so impressed with the performance of the Rukka pants that took the brunt of the fall and slide I returned them to the Australian agent with a letter of appreciation. If you went to the Rukka/Innotesco stall at the World Superbikes, you would have seen my pants on display.

https://motorbikewriter.com/rider-crash-tests-rukka-motorcycle-pants/

and will only get better with new tech, I bet Temper foam are not made of leather :mad:;)

https://www.nasa.gov/ames/spinoff/temper_foam_1981/

personally I only ride using Rukka and have crashed a few times, with excellent results :clap:


Real proof huh? Yet 100meters on the other side of that track fence at that WSB meeting: what were the racers wearing? Because?
Government conspiracy or Aliens?

[miz]

proof that the gears fully works, not 100% better than leather, yet, rukka been around for a long time, as materials just starts to develop and people buy these materials it will increase fairly rapid onwards, due to A.I also


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwsrzCVZAb8


seems youngsters like the vegan stuff, who do not like the kevlar jeans,
3 years ago, I will ask the guy to do an update


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3lCoYcced0


I was to say I feel sorry for the racing riders, but not anymore, alien yes :yes:

https://www.alienmoto.se/

[Blackbird]

Dr Chris Hurren, who actually tests motorcycle clothing is at the Shiny Side Up events round the country this year: https://shinysideup.co.nz/talent/

Also, the Ride Forever website has some useful info on buying gear and the international standards they have to meet. Boots here: https://www.rideforever.co.nz/buying-gear/choosing-the-right-gear/boots/

Evidence, not rhetoric or old wife's tales :laugh:

[miz]

darn cool

http://www.alienmoto.se/au/Alien-Moto-A51-RR-Evolution-1-Piece-Suit.html

[miz]

Dr Chris Hurren, who actually tests motorcycle clothing is at the Shiny Side Up events round the country this year: https://shinysideup.co.nz/talent/

Also, the Ride Forever website has some useful info on buying gear and the international standards they have to meet. Boots here: https://www.rideforever.co.nz/buying-gear/choosing-the-right-gear/boots/

Evidence, not rhetoric or old wife's tales :laugh:

thanks,

A few certifications on that Alien suit :baby:

CE certification:
PR EN 1621-3:2015 - EN 1621-1:2012 LEVEL 2 - EN 1621-2 LEVEL 2 - PR EN 1621-3:2015 LEVEL 2

[miz]

will be interesting see what 3D printing and A.I will do for materials and safety the coming years :Punk:

[pritch]

Non leather will outperform leather boots


That was some serious thread dredge. The intervening decade has probably produced a lot more plastic boots than were available back when the thread was young.

[miz]

That was some serious thread dredge. The intervening decade has probably produced a lot more plastic boots than were available back when the thread was young.

Google shows this thread on top :corn:

perhaps I did not see date but there was a poor lonely vegetarian trying to find boots who needed help :laugh:

cool stuff seems to have evolved, I bet you have vegan pizza available today :shifty:

http://www.alienmoto.se/au/Alien-Moto-A51-RR%20Evolution-Protech-Motorcycle-Racing-Gloves-Spec.html

[miz]

That was some serious thread dredge. The intervening decade has probably produced a lot more plastic boots than were available back when the thread was young.

on lonely laughed at vegetarian topic, who started the thread with that, fun talk about being an alcoholic to go vegan an become a dredded vegan and no.1 top athlete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khQgecnGzlc

[rastuscat]

Just bought some actual-leather boots. So there.

[miz]

Just bought some actual-leather boots. So there.

leather still provide protection but it will probably not be long before other materials and manufacturing methods will create higher level of protection and cheaper manufacturing

[caseye]

leather still provide protection but it will probably not be long before other materials and manufacturing methods will create higher level of protection and cheaper manufacturing
Yep and Ubber are going to have flying taxis by next year.
Ain't a happening thing, this century!:weep::weep::weep:

[Bonez]

As far as water proofing goes heavy duty gumboots a superior to any leather product. Seconded by GRUBS FROSTLINE horseding boots.

[Berries]

I think you will find horseseeding is illegal, even in New Zealand.

[Bonez]

I think you will find horseseeding is illegal, even in New Zealand.Just keep sticking to your sheep mate.

[rastuscat]

Back to the OP, I bought a new pair of boots this week.

I'm not a vegan, not even particularly fond of fruit and vegetables. I tolerate them.

But this time I actually read the handbook that came with the boots, and they are fully synthetic.

Sidi Canyon GTX boots, made using some magical artificial process using threads that ate 1/1000th of the width of a spiders web.

I thought they were just boots.

[rastuscat]

344338

These are the ones. Saving the planet, apparently.

[Bonez]

Looks like something you'd have on in an S&M session.

Here's my selection:

[rastuscat]

Looks like something you'd have on in an S&M session.

Here's my selection:

No red bands. Heathen.

[miz]

Back to the OP, I bought a new pair of boots this week.

I'm not a vegan, not even particularly fond of fruit and vegetables. I tolerate them.

But this time I actually read the handbook that came with the boots, and they are fully synthetic.

Sidi Canyon GTX boots, made using some magical artificial process using threads that ate 1/1000th of the width of a spiders web.

I thought they were just boots.


those boots gets high rating on revzilla

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/sidi-canyon-gore-tex-boots


thanks for mentioning Sidi seems to get overall high rating on revzilla


cred to Sidi for bringing things forward

[Bonez]

The reveiw video clearly states there is leather in the more protective pararts oft the boot. Toes, shin, heal etc. Sorry vegans....

[miz]

The reveiw video clearly states there is leather in the more protective pararts oft the boot. Toes, shin, heal etc. Sorry vegans....

thanks, it is a mix with leather, the new fibre seems good, probably will not be long before they start vegan labeling products as Schwarzenegger, Dolph Lundgren, Tony Stark and others are going "vegan"

Full Grain Microfibre with very similar characteristics to the genuine leather. Full Grain microfiber is not affected by aging and all its features are meant to be long-lasting. Lighter of leather it has very high mechanical properties outstanding tensile strength, tear resistance and flexing endurance. It maintains its softness independently from the exposition to every temperature. Full Grain Microfibre is stabil, breathable and water repellent. More resistant than leather.

https://sidi.com/en/products/motorcycle/boots/turismo/canyon-gore

[Bonez]

Full Grain Microfibre sounds like a breakkfest cereal. Lets hope it breaks down over time or the enviroment is hosed.