Health 'n' safety can get fucked

[dangerous]

It is growingly getting harder and harder for me to do my job with the ever increasing H&S rules etc, eg: some building sites ban the use of ladders and or chain saws etc and wearing hard hats when fitting skirtings... FFS

Anyway my 'rant 'n' rave is actually about a quick trip down to new world for some goodies. I thought Id do a good thing and take my 14mt old son with me, you know gives his mum a break and a little father n son time for us.
Well I just carry the wee shit in my arms its easier than getting a buggie etc out aye. Now at the check out I put the said sprog on the low bench next to the self check out, I know my boy and he just sits there watching me, I do my shit and as I have brought 'us' some beers I need a clearance... young thing comes over and swipes her card, I look at my boy and he does the checkn her out thing and gives me a wink, I say I know mate not bad aye, the young thing stands there with a cloth and cleaner and as I pick up the boy she mutters 'health n safety' gives me the shit eye and wipes down were boy was sitting... FUCK ME, I can grantee the bottom of my beer box has more dust and crap on it than my son, poisens get placed there with ya cabage.

Next of to the Lotto counter (already put the shoping in the truck) figgered the boy was enjoying the change of scenery and people... so I take him back in, sit him on the counter, figered the old girl would like to smile at the boy... err no she says 'you cant put him there' I ask why not she says 'healt and safety... I sad thats fucking stupid, if I put the wee tike on the floor he will be up and out the door so bloody fast I wont even know hes been flatened buy the trolly boy or passing car, and asked if she could sheck my ticket and grab me another thankyou. She gave me the same shit eye I got from the young one but continued to serve me anyway, I was waiting for her to refuse.

Now fuck me dead forskin fred, I had a arm around the boy the hole time even tho I know he would be all right there, but hey beter safe than sorry hence my arm

What realy fucks me off is we are being brought up and breed NOT to think for our selves and NOT to be responsable, in fact with the every increasing rules and regs we are being told NOT to use our brains, common sence is a thing of the past. We will slowly all become vegtables as we use our swede's less and less cos of these rules etc.

But I know what its really about... its about the bunch of bureaucratic cocks justiifing their existance and over sized wages.
Fuck you H&S I have a brain and I will use it shove ya rules up ya fucking arses.

[Mom]

Fuck you H&S I have a brain and I will use it shove ya rules up ya fucking arses.

You should have left him in the car with the windows shut, much safer for others that way!

Man I hear your frustration. Poor little kids these days. Not allowed to do anything that may put them at risk. What happened to Mom and Dad imparting their advice on what is safe and what is not and letting the kids try it out for themselves. Obviously not for a 14 month old, but hells teeth, kids are not allowed to risk anything these days.

I am surprised I am still alive given todays H&S rules. My kids stood no chance...

Keep doing it how you see fit and fuck em is my advice :yes:

[neels]

The trouble is the rules are not there for your kid that is well looked after. It's to cover all the useless parents who don't care how filthy their snottly little shits are, or don't give a shit what they are doing. Unfortunately the rules to cover the terminally stupid also apply to people that actually have a brain, regardless if they are actually able to think for themselves or not.

Bring back natural selection and the world would be a better place.

[Fatt Max]

Yep, H&S sometimes does take away your right to think for yourself.

You are obviously a good, caring guy who was out with his kid having some 'you' time, trouble is, the red tape encased ticket clippers of this world see you as a threat and it is a fucking shame.

I ran a shopping centre in Auckland for a couple of years, I am a trained first aider and have all the qualifications to administer CPR. However, the coporate pigs that run our malls would not let me use CPR if some poor bastard collapsed in front of me for 'health and safety' reasons. In detriment to my employment with these scum, I challenged that very vigoursly. My duty of care, my fucking right to do the right thing would be to help someone in need seeing as I have been trained to doi so. However, the health and safety angle of this company became an 'insurance issue', in other words, let the poor person die rather than let an employee try and help them and have a possible 'issue'. That was the line from their wanky risk managers.

So mate, I know 200% where you are coming from with your rant, and it is well in order.

One of the many things I love about kiwi's (and especially bikers) is their will to look out for themselves and others, cut through the crap and get on with life. Do the right thing, see thieir mates right and take care of their famillies. This is being stripped by those fucking people who enforce unneccsssary H&S crap on us, just for the sake of clipping a ticket.

You got my vote mate, fuck 'em all

[dangerous]

The trouble is the rules are not there for your kid that is well looked after. It's to cover all the useless parents who don't care how filthy their snottly little shits are, or don't give a shit what they are doing. Unfortunately the rules to cover the terminally stupid also apply to people that actually have a brain, regardless if they are actually able to think for themselves or not.

Bring back natural selection and the world would be a better place. yeah but mate... this minority you talk of, rules mean nothing to them anyway... why do I have to pay dog licences, chiping costs a fee for owning more than one dog? because of the terminally stupid shits that do not do the right thing and have dogs attack... nothing changes they dont pay and their dogs still attack... but hey the resposible owners keep the councils pockets full.

[Smifffy]

Yep, H&S sometimes does take away your right to think for yourself.

You are obviously a good, caring guy who was out with his kid having some 'you' time, trouble is, the red tape encased ticket clippers of this world see you as a threat and it is a fucking shame.

I ran a shopping centre in Auckland for a couple of years, I am a trained first aider and have all the qualifications to administer CPR. However, the coporate pigs that run our malls would not let me use CPR if some poor bastard collapsed in front of me for 'health and safety' reasons. In detriment to my employment with these scum, I challenged that very vigoursly. My duty of care, my fucking right to do the right thing would be to help someone in need seeing as I have been trained to doi so. However, the health and safety angle of this company became an 'insurance issue', in other words, let the poor person die rather than let an employee try and help them and have a possible 'issue'. That was the line from their wanky risk managers.

So mate, I know 200% where you are coming from with your rant, and it is well in order.

One of the many things I love about kiwi's (and especially bikers) is their will to look out for themselves and others, cut through the crap and get on with life. Do the right thing, see thieir mates right and take care of their famillies. This is being stripped by those fucking people who enforce unneccsssary H&S crap on us, just for the sake of clipping a ticket.

You got my vote mate, fuck 'em all

Interesting, I wonder how their risk profile would sit if someone did croak in that unfortunate manner, and their next of kin could prove that an employee of the mall was, trained, competent and present at the time, but had received explicit instructions not to assist. I would like to think that it would go badly for them.

[Fatt Max]

Interesting, I wonder how their risk profile would sit if someone did croak in that unfortunate manner, and their next of kin could prove that an employee of the mall was, trained, competent and present at the time, but had received explicit instructions not to assist. I would like to think that it would go badly for them.

I know, this was my point.

But, corporate pigs see saving a life more of a risk than letting one go. No action = no responsibility = no liability. It fucking stinks mate, your observation is well grounded.

These people who make the rules are trying so hard to be Americans they have forgotten what and where NZ is.

[caseye]

Smiffy I'm with you.I too would like to think(cripes, now we've gorn an dun it) that the establishment would get a severe roasting for NOT allowing a trained professional to do what they are trained to do, while someones loved one died alone, on a cold floor.
Max my friend,I've never stopped to think when confronted with people in pain . I just bloody well help them as best I can.Love ya mate for doing the right thing and telling them fascist barstards to take it and shove it.Right thing by our standards that is.
Dangereous, you continue to raise your kids as you and your good lady see fit, to hell with the Gay, Childless(the natural way at least) bully boy/girl, tree hugging wankers out ther who think they know better than you do.
At 17 x 2 and 15 times 1, my girls would no sooner think of swearing at me or anyone else for fear of the following whistling whack across the ear that would descend on them like a ton of bricks.
They don't talk with food in thier mouth either.
"I don't know" is never heard here, as if it i,s someone has a sore backside.
Um is another, never heard here.
Please and thank you on the other hand is often heard here, even when they'd rather kill one another than talk civilly.
Simple really, repitition repitition and consequence.
Works everytime.
Boring as all hell for the first 15-16 years but pays dividends in the long run.You learn pretty fast who your friends are too, the good ones back you and stop saying "it's Ok they're only kids" Quite quickly.They are the same ones who trip over themselves getting the girls to come baby sit for them cause they know there will be no shenanigans.

[scumdog]

I feel for ya D. - today when doing Taser stuff we were reminded we had to have new pepper-spray cos the old stuff had an alcohol base (Arghmmmm, alcamahol!!) and if we sprayed somebody with the old stuff and then Tasered 'em they might burst into flames if a spark ignited the alcohol based pepper-spray.

Shee-it, if ya get pepper-sprayed and then also need Tasered as well ya probably deserve to burst into flames....:devil2:

[steve_t]

Wasn't there a thread a while back saying how the bureaucrats had decided to ban tree climbing in a school somewhere?

[mashman]

I sympathise. The day after Boxing day in the UK and the little one has got a really nasty cough, so The Men (Me, Dad, my 18yr old and the coughing little one, out wrapped, fresh air, snug.) where going to go out hunter gathering at Tesco... and at the same time I thought, I know I'll get some medicine for little lady. There it is on the shelf at the pharmacy counter. Some of that please. Is it for your daughter there. Sorry we can't sell this medicine knowing that it's to be used for a child under the age of six. But it says for children 2+. I know, but we can't legally sell it knowing that it will be used for a child under six. I explained that she was short for her age, Dad stifled laughter and said, come on, but no... she stuck to her guns... Now 3.5 years ago in Tesco I never had a problem with my then 2 year old... WTF!!!

Something is going very wrong with the world.

[roadracingoldfart]

I feel for ya D. - today when doing Taser stuff we were reminded we had to have new pepper-spray cos the old stuff had an alcohol base (Arghmmmm, alcamahol!!) and if we sprayed somebody with the old stuff and then Tasered 'em they might burst into flames if a spark ignited the alcohol based pepper-spray.

Shee-it, if ya get pepper-sprayed and then also need Tasered as well ya probably deserve to burst into flames....:devil2:

Now if i asked you politely , can you post pictures of the suspect igniting and are you a trained and suitable person to operate a fire extinguisher ???

Ahhhh dont ya just love statistics lol.

[roadracingoldfart]

the young thing stands there with a cloth and cleaner and as I pick up the boy she mutters 'health n safety' gives me the shit eye and wipes down were boy was sitting... FUCK ME, I can grantee the bottom of my beer box has more dust and crap on it than my son, poisens get placed there with ya cabage.

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Did ya ask the cheeky cow to wash the dirty filthy money she gave you as change ????


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[dangerous]

and if we sprayed somebody with the old stuff and then Tasered 'em they might burst into flames if a spark ignited the alcohol based pepper-spray.

Shee-it, if ya get pepper-sprayed and then also need Tasered as well ya probably deserve to burst into flames....:devil2: LMFAO... now thats health n saftey


At 17 x 2 and 15 times 1, my girls ... mate, If I can acheive half what you have by the timme hes 17 I will be tickled pink.

[caseye]

Yep sprayed and "WIPED, OUT". Love it.

[Oakie]

At the risk of instant vilification, I confess to having a Certificate in Health and Safety Management and being our workplace HSE Coordinator in additiion to my main role. Next week my main task is to re-write our HSE policy. Now that my credentials are established I need to say that even though the stuff the OP mentioned was tagged for 'Health and Safety', as someone else said, it was more about corporate risk management. Two points I want to make:

> The tag 'Health and Safety' is used for all manner of things because 'HSE' is a scary name and a bloody good way to get things done without argument is label it 'a Health and Safety issue'. I fight it at work quite a bit. "No it's not HSE, it's just a managment issue. Go do your job and don't pass the buck"
> Some people who do HSE are just officious little NAZIs who micromanage the easy stuff. EG, I was talking to a woman today who has to complete a 2 page accident form for anything requiring the first aid kit being used ... even a paper-cut. Trouble is that these 'HSE people' have no idea about doing the important stuff. They like the power and think they're doing a good job but all they really do is give HSE practitioners and the function itself a bad name.

[slofox]

What realy fucks me off is we are being brought up and breed NOT to think for our selves and NOT to be responsable, in fact with the every increasing rules and regs we are being told NOT to use our brains, common sence is a thing of the past. We will slowly all become vegtables as we use our swede's less and less cos of these rules etc.




Yep. You're bang on right. Fucking stupid is what it is - the dumbing down of society by a bunch of wankers.

[Kickaha]

at the risk of instant vilification, i confess to having a certiicate in health and safety management and being our workplace hse coordinator.

Burn him.....

As a friend of mine commented H & S will be the downfall of civilization because now the dumb ones survive to breed



Fuck you H&S I have a brain
There's no way you can prove that

[rustic101]

its about the bunch of bureaucratic cocks justiifing their existance and over sized wages.
Fuck you H&S I have a brain and I will use it shove ya rules up ya fucking arses.

Its not like he was reaching for a nail gun - we have (IMHO) become soft as a Nation. Growing up I was electrocuted, hit in the head with a hammer and al sorts of stupid accidents.What I can tell you though is each incident only happened once. Problem now days is we are not permitted to learn boundaries (or what hurts and what does not) so as not to do it again..

[Oakie]

Burn him.....

LOL. Yep, that's what I had in mind. Just do me a favour and use safety matches when lighting the fire so you don't burn yourselves.

[Kickaha]

Originally when the whole H & S started up it was a fairly big job for the company to get up to scratch, once the hazard management is done and documented it's not that hard to keep it up to date

Is anyone aware of the fines that can be dished out?, it's not just the company you work for that can get nailed, you personally can be held accountable and fined if you're doing dumb shit

[yachtie10]

Smiffy I'm with you.I too would like to think(cripes, now we've gorn an dun it) that the establishment would get a severe roasting for NOT allowing a trained professional to do what they are trained to do, while someones loved one died alone, on a cold floor.
Max my friend,I've never stopped to think when confronted with people in pain . I just bloody well help them as best I can.Love ya mate for doing the right thing and telling them fascist barstards to take it and shove it.Right thing by our standards that is.
Dangereous, you continue to raise your kids as you and your good lady see fit, to hell with the Gay, Childless(the natural way at least) bully boy/girl, tree hugging wankers out ther who think they know better than you do.
At 17 x 2 and 15 times 1, my girls would no sooner think of swearing at me or anyone else for fear of the following whistling whack across the ear that would descend on them like a ton of bricks.
They don't talk with food in thier mouth either.
"I don't know" is never heard here, as if it i,s someone has a sore backside.
Um is another, never heard here.
Please and thank you on the other hand is often heard here, even when they'd rather kill one another than talk civilly.
Simple really, repitition repitition and consequence.
Works everytime.
Boring as all hell for the first 15-16 years but pays dividends in the long run.You learn pretty fast who your friends are too, the good ones back you and stop saying "it's Ok they're only kids" Quite quickly.They are the same ones who trip over themselves getting the girls to come baby sit for them cause they know there will be no shenanigans.

Your a brave man saying that out loud!
how dare you bring up your children to be decent adults (sarcasam icon here)

[yachtie10]

I feel for ya D. - today when doing Taser stuff we were reminded we had to have new pepper-spray cos the old stuff had an alcohol base (Arghmmmm, alcamahol!!) and if we sprayed somebody with the old stuff and then Tasered 'em they might burst into flames if a spark ignited the alcohol based pepper-spray.

Shee-it, if ya get pepper-sprayed and then also need Tasered as well ya probably deserve to burst into flames....:devil2:

I think you should conduct some testing to see if you can light the pepper spray by using simultaneously
could be a new front line weapon (if doesnt work could always use a lighter)

[Oakie]

I think you should conduct some testing to see if you can light the pepper spray by using simultaneously
could be a new front line weapon (if doesnt work could always use a lighter)

Police issue flame-thrower. Nice.

[Dadpole]

I feel for ya D. - today when doing Taser stuff we were reminded we had to have new pepper-spray cos the old stuff had an alcohol base (Arghmmmm, alcamahol!!) and if we sprayed somebody with the old stuff and then Tasered 'em they might burst into flames if a spark ignited the alcohol based pepper-spray.

Shee-it, if ya get pepper-sprayed and then also need Tasered as well ya probably deserve to burst into flames....:devil2:

Surely you can 'forget' when dealing with a few of your clients?

[Smifffy]

At the risk of instant vilification, I confess to having a Certiicate in Health and Safety Management and being our workplace HSE Coordinator in additiion to my main role. Next week my main task is to re-write our HSE policy. Now that my credentials are established I need to say that even though the stuff the OP mentioned was tagged for 'Health and Safety', as someone else said, it was more about corporate risk management. Two points I want to make:

> The tag 'Health and Safety' is used for all manner of things because 'HSE' is a scary name and a bloody good way to get things done without argument is label it 'a Health and Safety issue'. I fight it at work quite a bit. "No it's not HSE, it's just a managment issue. Go do your job and don't pass the buck"
> Some people who do HSE are just officious little NAZIs who micromanage the easy stuff. EG, I was talking to a woman today who has to complete a 2 page accident form for anything requiring the first aid kit being used ... even a paper-cut. Trouble is that these 'HSE people' have no idea about doing the important stuff. They like the power and think they're doing a good job but all they really do is give HSE practitioners and the function itself a bad name.

+1 This is pretty spot on IME.

So next time some pratt tries on the HS&E nazi trick, stop and ask them as politely as possible:

What is the identified hazard?
What is the potential harm?
What is the likely consequence?
What the fuck is your problem?

If they can't answer these questions properly, then it isn't really a health & safety issue, it's just that they don't like what you're doing - probably because it will cause them to have to (ack!) work. Like wipe down the counter - OH NOES!!


PS that was general advice, not directed at Oakie, as he seems to know how the game is played.

[specter]

the young thing stands there with a cloth and cleaner and as I pick up the boy she mutters 'health n safety' gives me the shit eye and wipes down were boy was sitting... FUCK ME, I can grantee the bottom of my beer box has more dust and crap on it than my son, poisens get placed there with ya cabage.

i hear you mate! im working at foodstuffs atm and some of the stuff we send off to stores is disgustingly filthy, dusty, covered in bird shit and has mice in between them!!!! this job has put me off alot of food now!

[JMemonic]

Hell that's what you get for shopping at poncy New World, half those prats behind the counter out there seem to think they are something special for some reason, not sure why perhaps they live in that snobbish Westlake bit, which I remember as being called "the crystal" and the land being spud paddocks. The other half well are brainless gimps who cant think thus have to follow the stupid company line.

That aside they are possibly none the wiser, as the world has progressively gotten more wrapped up in cotton wool and the pervasiveness of America culture has invaded, the basic level of common sense has decreased to the point I now understand the need for labels on toasters saying don't use this in the bath etc. Unfortunately this has lead to a culture where any of the cool fun stuff we did as kids is now frowned upon, parents such as yourself who really just wants their kid to have the same opportunity for fun as you did no longer have the option of raising kids to think for themselves and learn action and consequence.

By the time your lad is playing father to your grand kids I suspect the state will have removed all rights from parents then we will really see the stupid generations who cant think for themselves.

[dangerous]

Unfortunately this has lead to a culture where any of the cool fun stuff we did as kids is now frowned upon, parents such as yourself who really just wants their kid to have the same opportunity for fun as you did no longer have the option of raising kids to think for themselves and learn action and consequence.
yeah, the boy now rides on the tank of the bikes round the yard, rests feet on fairing, holds onto the blade or dash, and has a grin like a chesire cat, some will say thats a stupid thing to do, but hey he also can and knose how to start a bike and the twist grip makes the rpm needle move... but he also knows the red button stops it, he only started walking a week ago.


As a friend of mine commented H & S will be the downfall of civilization because now the dumb ones survive to breed You have friends? ;) actually thinking about it ya got a damn good point, and that alone is a worry. (not that you had a good point, but the 'dumb ones')
There's no way you can prove that is bloody to, every now and again when I tilt my head excess brains fall out my ears in the form of small whiteish chips.

[Fatt Max]

Growing up I was electrocuted, hit in the head with a hammer and al sorts of stupid accidents...

Ahhh, that explains it. I though it was all the lollies you eat.......

[rustic101]

Ahhh, that explains it. I though it was all the lollies you eat.......

Which raised another memory; my brother and I use to nick off down to the Regina lolly factory in Oamaru, dive into skip-bins of discarded sweets being thrown out. Took three years to figure out why they never released a type of lolly we always found in the bins, apparently you are not able to package rat poison for human consumption lol. Well I'm still here and I'm not a fat bastard so can't have been that bad for us.

[Pixie]

But only if they use a condom

[Oakie]

my brother and I use to nick off down to the Regina lolly factory in Oamaru, dive into skip-bins of discarded sweets being thrown out.

Ahhh, yes I recall the smell of hot chocolate in the afternoon as I cycled past Regina on the way home from WBHS. Later on, Mrs Oakie cleaned there and would come home with pockets full of 'seconds' that were just jeft for people to take home.

[SPman]

he tag 'Health and Safety' is used for all manner of things because 'HSE' is a scary name and a bloody good way to get things done without argument is label it 'a Health and Safety issue'. or they invoke "the Privacy Act"!

It's normally used as an excuse to do nothing or run away from responsibility and thinking

I blame too many lawyers and lazy, greedy people!

[peasea]

I feel for ya D. - today when doing Taser stuff we were reminded we had to have new pepper-spray cos the old stuff had an alcohol base (Arghmmmm, alcamahol!!) and if we sprayed somebody with the old stuff and then Tasered 'em they might burst into flames if a spark ignited the alcohol based pepper-spray.

Shee-it, if ya get pepper-sprayed and then also need Tasered as well ya probably deserve to burst into flames....:devil2:

You'd be in deep pooh if you tasered someone who suffered from acute spontaneous human combustion.

[firefighter]

not let me use CPR if some poor bastard collapsed in front of me for 'health and safety' reasons.

That sounds pretty illegal to me.

In fact, is it not illegal to NOT render assistance? Even in the defence force you ca'nt be ordered to break the law.

You should have sent copies of any literature supporting this to every media source in existance.

In fact, come to think of it, without documantation in front of me saying so i'm pretty damn sure you ca'nt ban people from giving CPR.....

[firefighter]

Tasered 'em they might burst into flames if a spark ignited the alcohol based pepper-spray.

Shee-it, if ya get pepper-sprayed and then also need Tasered as well ya probably deserve to burst into flames....:devil2:

It should be illegal to not set them on fire!

[Skyryder]

And I bet they were all woman. You're a man D.................not too hard to figure where they are coming from.


Skyryder

[AD345]

Just follow these simple instructions...

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[scumdog]

Burn him.....

As a friend of mine commented H & S will be the downfall of civilization because now the dumb ones survive to breed

Add free health care and the benefit and we're all doomed - that's for sure!!

[R6_kid]

teach your boy to flip the bird whenever he hears the words "health and safety".

[dangerous]

teach your boy to flip the bird whenever he hears the words "health and safety". he already does at the wee sniviling homo drifters... ;)

[Skyryder]

Mind you there are so many that do it wrong. Years ago on our honymoon the wife and I were at a small cafe type 'rese rant" and this couple comes in with a babe in arms They sit down and the mother places baby in adult chair and baby slips thru the back of the chair and hits the floor. I can still hear the 'thud' as the baby fell on the top of it's head. At the end of the day D people are just showing concern for your child.......................


Skyryder

[dangerous]

At the end of the day D people are just showing concern for your child.......................
NO they aint... they are simply just acting like good little robots and doing what they have been told to, they dont give a rats shit about my rug rat, they just dont want to loose money or end up in court.

[Oakie]

NO they aint... they are simply just acting like good little robots and doing what they have been told to, they dont give a rats shit about my rug rat, they just dont want to loose money or end up in court.

That's about the size of it.

[pete376403]

Evolution used to be about weeding out the misfits. H&S is going against the grain of nature - eventually we'll all be returning to the trees.

[Skyryder]

That's about the size of it.

If you ever see a little kiddie skittled by a car (hit and run) like I did one friday night and claim that you don't care you're a tougher man than I am.

Strangers do care.......................not in the same way as parents, friends etc but care they do.


Skyryder

[Oakie]

If you ever see a little kiddie skittled by a car (hit and run) like I did one friday night and claim that you don't care you're a tougher man than I am.
Strangers do care.......................not in the same way as parents, friends etc but care they do. Skyryder

I'd never want to be that 'tough'. I saw a near miss like that just last week involving a wee kid on a bike beside a busy road and even the thought of what nearly happened ripped at my heart. I knew right then that if I had the opportunity I would have dropped my bike and done the big hero dive to grab the kid away rather than watch it happen. Fortunately it wasn't necessary.

This thread has caused me to think about my motivations in my role and I find that when I'm doing HSE for my workmates it's solely because I don't want them to get injured. 100% compassionate motive. When I'm doing it in relation to visitors it's mainly so they don't do something dumb causing an injury to themselves that will cost us money. Eg, my first concern about Johnny Dope-Head the scaffolding contractor not assembling his gear properly is for the financial hit to my company as principal, rather than his injury. Yep, there is a level of concern for him there but it comes second. For this reason I'll ask to see his HSE plan, check his qualifications and throw an occasional eye over what he's doing to make sure he's doing all the right things.

[MSTRS]

.... At the end of the day D people are just showing concern for your child.......................


It's not that either.
I will go out on a limb and say it is because of the 'rule' that says you don't sit on anywhere that is used to place food. A so-called cultural issue. Mind you, some of 'them' are the worst offenders...
At one time, it would have been fair enough. Grass skirts didn't come with undies, so there really would have been a health issue.
Littlies still in nappies, which can and do leak, prolly shouldn't be sat where food goes.
That would be the idea behind it, anyway.

[candor]

I feel for ya D. - today when doing Taser stuff we were reminded we had to have new pepper-spray cos the old stuff had an alcohol base (Arghmmmm, alcamahol!!) and if we sprayed somebody with the old stuff and then Tasered 'em they might burst into flames if a spark ignited the alcohol based pepper-spray.


So why don't they instead issue you very low frequency microwave laser guns as developed for the Yanks military purposes by Dr Byrd et al? These apparently mind boggle and incapacitate quite well on a low setting (or cook offenders on high). Nasty that they allegedly keep such safe tech under wraps (Byrd said if his work was successful we'd hear no more of it which we didn't, as it'd continue on the black op budget), I'd prefer it if looped out and I guess though a big hefty cannon like gun may be required it has a long range too.

[candor]

Add free health care and the benefit and we're all doomed - that's for sure!!

Not to mention allowing institutions you're not meant to leave to become dating agencies.

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An Obituary

Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.

He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:

- Knowing when to come in out of the rain;
- Why the early bird gets the worm;
- Life isn't always fair;
- and maybe it was my fault.

Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you can earn) and reliable strategies (adults, not children, are in charge).

His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.

Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children. It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer sun lotion or an aspirin to a student; but could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.

Common Sense lost the will to live as the churches became businesses; and criminals received better treatment than their victims. Common Sense took a beating when you couldn't defend yourself from a burglar in your own home and the burglar could sue you for assault.

Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement. Common Sense was preceded in death, by his parents, Truth and Trust, by his wife, Discretion, by his daughter, Responsibility, and by his son, Reason.

He is survived by his 4 stepbrothers; I Know My Rights, I Want It Now, Someone Else Is To Blame, and I'm A Victim

Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone. If you still remember him, pass this on. If not, join the majority and do nothing