Visor fogging in the cold

[Mudfart]

ok, i was riding this morning very early, and I've bought a thermal balaklava which is good, but my antifog called PJ1 made in USA, doesnt appear to do shit.
I had to follow behind a car, to be able to tail his brake lights.
My breath just kept on fogging up the inside of the visor.
I have wiped the inside as well as the outside, multiple times with the PJ1.
I have to wear glasses while riding, is that an issue?, coz I may be able to wear contacts. I will antifog them tonight.
Do I have to often raise my visor, to the bloody cold air whilst riding to help temporarily clear the fog?.
Any suggestions appreciated. Except the ones about your mum. Sisters are ok.
bike itself is ok, but needs a good warm up, is a fuel inj engine way better in the cold?.

[Swoop]

Does your helmet have a breath guard fitted?

[Mudfart]

its a shoei xr1000. should the vents be open or closed?

[CookMySock]

You don't need to warm a modern fuel injected engine up. Just don't rev it over half way with it stone cold. Ten second warmup is fine.

Yes, a thick balaclava will restrict airflow around around your mouth and nose and promote fogging. You need all the airspace around there you can get. It also helps if you keep your breathing regular and don't puff and pant like a rugby player into your visor. Try a thin polypro balaclava, or a helmet with more breathing space.

To get your visor really clean, take it right off the helmet, run it under the hot tap and suds it up with dishwash liquid and a soft clean dishcloth. Buff it dry with a soft cloth.

Vents are open to prevent fogging.

Steve

[Mudfart]

ok, i was wearing the balaklava over my mouth, to try and stop it lol.
thanks.

[Big Dave]

A Pinlock visor is by far the best and most expensive solution. Google it.

A Fog City insert is next best.

Various anti-fog applicants also exist - with varying degrees of longevity, effectiveness and cost. 'Cat Crap' is the most highly regarded.

[LBD]

Ditto...tried it once and was sold....I would never be without a pinloc on the inside and Pledge furniture polish on the out...Clearest vision in cold and wet I have experienecd in 35 years on the road


A Pinlock visor is by far the best and most expensive solution. Google it.

A Fog City insert is next best.

Various anti-fog applicants also exist - with varying degrees of longevity, effectiveness and cost. 'Cat Crap' is the most highly regarded.

[Mom]

Cat crap is all good stuff. You could try leaving the chin vent open, I find I get a headache in winter if I have the vents open in my helmet. Leave the visor the tiniest bit cracked until you get some speed up works too.

Failing that stop breathing - or get a pinloc insert.

[sinfull]

You don't need to warm a modern fuel injected engine up. Just don't rev it over half way with it stone cold. Ten second warmup is fine.


Your startin again !!!!!!

[Pussy]

Your startin again !!!!!!
He never stopped!

[mashman]

A Fog City insert is next best.

Just change the visor before you go anywhere too quickly. The seal popped on mine at manfeild coming into turn one and I ended up on the other side of the kitty litter (that must be some fuckin big cat), right in front of the tyres... amazing how quick it turns to custard when you suddenly think at speed "damn thing popped SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIT"

But they are second to none (having never tried a pinlock visor)

[Jonno.]

You can try keeping your visor open a few mm.

[Leseid]

The inside of your visor acts as a condenser for warm most air that you breath out, so if you've been riding for a while and then come to a stop your visor has cooled down a lot and will make a very effective condenser. I guess one trick you could try (and I might try it too) is to flick up the visor before you know your going to have to slow down or stop.

I've tried all sorts of anti fog stuff before and sure it works a bit if you keep re-applying it frequently which gets boring fast. I've found washing my visor with washing detergent and not fully rinsing it all off helps a little too.

I feel your pain too.

[=cJ=]

Pinlock is by far the best solution if you can stretch to it. Otherwise, just crack your visor open a touch as has been suggested.

I have tried rubbing a cut potato on the inside too, that worked for my diving mask many moons ago...

[CookMySock]

Your startin again !!!!!!You got a problem with that sonny? :bleh:


Steve

[p.dath]

A Pinlock visor is by far the best and most expensive solution. Google it.


+1. If you are going to be doing a bit of riding in the cold get one. Well worth the money.

[sinfull]

You got a problem with that sonny? :bleh:


Steve
Nope, not so long as you don't have one with me making a note on every thread you post stupid shit on, that your advise may be a crock of shit and shouldn't be listened to !

[CookMySock]

Nope, not so long as you don't have one with me making a note on every thread you post stupid shit on, that your advise may be a crock of shit and shouldn't be listened to !Of course I have no say in what you do whatsoever. Not only that, I also have no personal preference in what you do whatsoever. It does not affect me in the slightest, so you should feel reassured that you may conduct yourself 100% as you please at any time whatsoever.

Be assured, these same rights extend to me, so I will simply do as I choose.

Fair enough?

Steve

[fliplid]

A Pinlock visor is by far the best and most expensive solution. Google it.

A Fog City insert is next best. The way(s) to go.

[Trouser]

Pinlock. The end.

[fliplid]

Pinlock. The end.

Not all lids have visors than can be fitted with Pinlock, though, so there is still a place for Fogcity, for us mere mortals:yes:

[Mudfart]

im gonna check out a pinlock visor for my xr1000. the antifog, i could see working on my visor this morning, it didnt "fog" up on the inside, but my nostril breath made my sight "blurred" through the visor.
and it wasnt really even cold this morning!. wait til bloody june.

[SMOKEU]

I use Scott anti fog cleaner. It cost me $12 and I've used it dozens of times and the bottle is still almost full. It's a great product, and I only need to re-apply it every week or so.

[mashman]

I guess one trick you could try (and I might try it too) is to flick up the visor before you know your going to have to slow down or stop.


Good system and does work very well. But when you forget and you're doing lots of filtering of traffic you have to hold your breath :sick: before you stop and then quickly pop the visor when you stop and gasp for air. Funny, but effective.



I've tried all sorts of anti fog stuff before and sure it works a bit if you keep re-applying it frequently which gets boring fast. I've found washing my visor with washing detergent and not fully rinsing it all off helps a little too.


Did that too and it was superb in the rain, but when you hit fog! The visor can and does INSTANTLY mist over, causing utter panic inside the helmet :yes: Scottish weather does test these things for you and on a regular basis... But it's sooo nice out here...

And thanks for the other memory... this one time in Kosovo. I picked a couple of journos up from an airport in Macedonia and came blasting back before it got dark and slippy... and whilst blasting back, you have to drive at warp speed over there dodging shell holes full of water as you go (even the cops), because they is all exceptionally mad fuckers and you're by far the slowest thing on the road in places)... anyway the car in front hit one of these shell holes and the windscreen instantly froze over (a very think veil). One of the journos in the back started hyper-ventilating, apparantly, but I was too busy squinting through an iced over windscreen, with my arm out the window and scraping the windscreen clear enough to find somewhere to pull over. It wasn't until later, that I found out he'd nearly died in a car smash and had spent an awful lot of time in traction... poor fella... thanks for the flashback

[Laava]

One thing for sure, you will have NO problems with a correctly fitted pinlock. I did a month touring in April/May Sth Is and had no issues from hot sun straight into torrential downpour. Recommend.

[Trouser]

Not all lids have visors than can be fitted with Pinlock, though, so there is still a place for Fogcity, for us mere mortals:yes:

Got a drill? You can retro-fit a pinlock to pretty much anything.

[Mudfart]

so all a pinlock is, is a small hole in the visor up towards the hinge part, one hole each side?
and you really have seen someone else, or drilled the holes yourself?

[Vgygrwr]

The pinlock locks an inner layer to your visor with an air gap in between same idea as double glazing. You need a coulple of holes accurately drilled then a couple of pins and the inner insert. Google will give details. I still have problems with glasses fogging so still have to open visor on occasions.

[Skyryder]

Glycerine is your friend Get some hair shampoo that has this in it. and wash the inside with the shampoo. Then rinse off. A small trace of glycerine will adhere to the plastic and prevent moisture from sticking to the inside.


Skyryder

[Cayman911]

Dont know why i discovered this but i did one day at the lights with the visor down, which resulted in the visor fogging up.

i found out, when you breath in through your nose, the fog kinda goes away. now if you can breath in ALOT, and not breath out (for best results) that'd work,

or possibly result in you fainting lol.

[Mudfart]

Im going to train to breathe in through my nose, and out thru my arse.
I'm halfway there already. Ask anyone that knows me.

[roogazza]

Glycerine is your friend Get some hair shampoo that has this in it. and wash the inside with the shampoo. Then rinse off. A small trace of glycerine will adhere to the plastic and prevent moisture from sticking to the inside.
Skyryder
Thats the one skyrider, an old trick with car racers was/is 'Pert two n one', used on windscreens.
I use this if I can remember to put it on before a ride. If you huff and puff like I do, it is a cure.
Shoei X spirit, breath guard and vents open as well for me. G.

[Mudfart]

ok, its gonna cost me about 160$ to get a pinlock visor.
Does anyone ride with one while wearing glasses?
I have to wear my glasses or i cant see, am i wasting my money?

[Vgygrwr]

Having used the stick on fog off, more like $35, a Shoei Raid 2 which I think is bad for misting up, and riding in Canterbury winters, I find the fog off stopped all visor misting and my glasses are only a problem in low speed situations where it is fine to ride with visor slightly open. Will definitely have a go at the glycerine on the glasses though. I looked at the pinlock with new visor but decided to wait until I wanted a new helmet.

[p.dath]

ok, its gonna cost me about 160$ to get a pinlock visor.
Does anyone ride with one while wearing glasses?
I have to wear my glasses or i cant see, am i wasting my money?

I used to wear glasses till I had the zap zap. The pinlock itself works fine with glasses - but you may find your glasses themselves still fog up from time to time (mine certainly did). I tended to wear contact lenses more as a result.

[Mudfart]

yeah my old profession didnt allow the use of contacts, but now i guess theres no reason not to.