Hard seat? Try pushbike pants.

[dmoo1790]

The seat on my DRZ400 is a literal pain on long rides but I found that wearing padded cycle pants under my jeans helped heaps. Not totally pain-free after a few hundred km but much better than without and cheap and easy since I already had the pants for riding my mountain bike.

[Padmei]

Plus you get that padded crotch effect.

[george formby]

The seat on my DRZ400 is a literal pain on long rides but I found that wearing padded cycle pants under my jeans helped heaps. Not totally pain-free after a few hundred km but much better than without and cheap and easy since I already had the pants for riding my mountain bike.

You did not mention how bad they smell after a days ride. I bought a pair for some long haul touring in Europe & yep, they certainly made things more comfortable but reeked like a shit house door made from old fish boxe's at end of the day. No big deal, a quick wash in the shower & hung off the end of the bed overnight & they were ready for another days bum cosseting.

[CookMySock]

They look good too. :love::niceone:

Steve

[cromagnon]

Yea they help a lot, I ride my DR250 long distances (400-500km per day sometimes) and the ass can go very numb and sore. Standing up on the pegs every now and then helps a lot to get the blood flowing. Probably looks strange to most people when doing it on the open road.

[cooneyr]

Anybody ever had any grief for standing when on the road. I do it often just for something different. Rode 15km standing the other day and got many stares from cagers. Have had road bikers waving at met to sit down cause there was a cop around the corner. Seems to me that most of our bikes are designed to be as controlable if not more so standing compared to sitting so shouldnt really be an issue. I've also been told that cause standing is not the norm is could be classed as careless riding.

Cheers R

[dmoo1790]

You did not mention how bad they smell after a days ride. I bought a pair for some long haul touring in Europe & yep, they certainly made things more comfortable but reeked like a shit house door made from old fish boxe's at end of the day.

Ha ha. There's many things I could say to that but I won't go there. Actually my pants don't stink up too bad. They are from Ground Effect and are supposed to have some sort of anti-bacterial treatment. Actually does work because I can easily go two days without a prob. I have 3 pairs and sometimes it's tricky to work out which are used and which are clean due to low odour retention.

[fridayflash]

i often stand up and ride too, a longterm side effect of trailriding where ill stand 99% of the time
even do it on my roadbikes for a bit of a reprieve occasionaly, never occured to me the 'fuzz' mightnt go for it lol
as an aside, i find prolonged standing on my dr a bit tricky...peg to bar space not roomy enough
may try some bar risers but thatl only tilt the bar mount point even closer to me...anyone else have this prob?
might go with hi bars and tilt them forwards

[bart]

I'd rather get a sore arse than wear those things. :shutup:

I stand a lot, but being 5 foot fuck all, it's only a short distance from sitting to standing.

[fridayflash]

speaking of sore arses my seat is freaken torture! same story for most dr650 riders i hear, am guna try a seat reuphoster job
going wider and higher...and of course softer! but may also gice those stretchy dick togs a go too

[warewolf]

More layers between your arse and the seat definitely helps. In winter with thermal long johns, thermal liners, water proof liners & cycle shorts (for a long trip) hide a lot more vibrations than a summer trip (commute to town) wearing only thin hiking pants.

Watch the cycle shorts; motorcycle seats are wider so you end up with the crotch pad seam between your leg and the seat, which can cut off circulation. Try to find shorts with a flat seam. I've worn cycle shorts for motorcycling for... uh... way too many years to count. Definitely the way to go! Simply wouldn't ride without them.

Some people I know have a major problem with polyprop thermals stinking so bad they have to store them in a plastic bag in the freezer between uses - I kid you not. I've never had that problem at all, with polyprops or cycle shorts, but I wash them in nothing but SportWash (as I do any high-tech fabric, especially micro-pore jobbies eg goretex et al).

[Woodman]

may try me bike shorts sounds good. Do I wear them on the inside or outside? (someone had to ask)

I tend to stand up when coming into 50k zones etc 100k is too windy for standing.

My handlebars are rolled that far forward for standing that I had to remove the perspex screen and make a skinnier one so the bars could go lock to lock. didn.t fit bar risers as they would have brought them closer to me making the problem worse. Looked at them rox risers but deciided against them cos they would bend and break too easy if i happened to have a lay down.

[bart]

if i happened to have a lay down.

That's one hell of an 'if'

[Padmei]

That's one hell of an 'if'

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[dino3310]

do you wear undies underneath?.
normally just wear gruts or the ol black rugger shorts underneath me bike trou

[XF650]

For protection and comfort all in one, I'm looking to try those armoured shorts, like what the down-hill mountain bikers wear.

A question: whats with blokes on push bikes shaving their legs - is this a resullt of their postrate taking a hammering from those stupidly uncomfortable seats or something?

[dino3310]

same as swimmers i would think.... to cut down on drag and to do that you gotta look a bit like a drag :lol:

[Gizzit]

For protection and comfort all in one, I'm looking to try those armoured shorts, like what the down-hill mountain bikers wear.
... SNIP ... ?

I haven't heard of "armoured shorts" ... ? Where have you seen these ? Got a website or link to any ? I'd be interested in looking at them too.

Today I put on a pair of my old padded cycling shorts that I haven't worn in a VERY long time .... , chucked my 1Tonne Cordura bike trou over them, and went out for a ride for about an hour or so, .. and I certainly noticed the difference between wearing them today, and the last ride I had, for around that length of time. The cycle shorts, with the little padding in them, sure help when riding on a stock DR650 seat. They will certainly help until I can do something with the stock seat !!

Does anyone know of ... or own padded cycle shorts that have really good padding in them ?? The ones I used today, are a pair of Cima (I think thats the brand) shorts, and are pretty old.

[That looks like fun]

For protection and comfort all in one, I'm looking to try those armoured shorts, like what the down-hill mountain bikers wear.

A question: whats with blokes on push bikes shaving their legs - is this a resullt of their postrate taking a hammering from those stupidly uncomfortable seats or something?

The leg shaving is to help with healing after the big slide on ya side down the road :shit: Its seems Lycra dont give the same protection as Cordura :yes: Less risk of infection allegedly.
Either that or they are all faggoty poofter bums from those silly seats :blink:, I dunno :innocent:

[warewolf]

A question: whats with blokes on push bikes shaving their legsBTDT. Several reasons:

Gravel rash - umm, there's not even lycra for most of the leg length except maybe in winter. There's a reason surgeons shave the wound site before they put knife to skin.
Massage is much easier/better with bare legs. A quick rub-down after the ride can make quite a difference, part of the stretching/cool-down routine. This is the biggest & most noticeable reason.
Wind resistance - meh, possible and maybe justified if you've spent squintillions shaving 0.3 grammes off your bike, you'd better go the whole hog.

[warewolf]

do you wear undies underneath?You are not supposed to. The chamois does a lot more than (and in fact does not really itself provide) padding. It's about stopping crotch-rot, and comfort via removal of lumpy seams, wicking of moisture etc - stuff that your Reg Grundies do poorly. Padding is normally added between the chamois and the outer layer, although modern hi-tek synthetic chamois are likely all-in-one.

But feel free to wear your g-string/posing-pouch underneath if you so desire...or even "go Woodman" and wear them on the outside... don't let us stop you.

[NordieBoy]

I haven't heard of "armoured shorts" ... ? Where have you seen these ? Got a website or link to any ? I'd be interested in looking at them too.

http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/66PRUN8BU/title/661-bomber-undershort

http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/images/products/66PRUN8BU_zoom.jpg

[Padmei]

BTDT. Several reasons:

Gravel rash - umm, there's not even lycra for most of the leg length except maybe in winter. There's a reason surgeons shave the wound site before they put knife to skin.
Massage is much easier/better with bare legs. A quick rub-down after the ride can make quite a difference, part of the stretching/cool-down routine. This is the biggest & most noticeable reason.
Wind resistance - meh, possible and maybe justified if you've spent squintillions shaving 0.3 grammes off your bike, you'd better go the whole hog.


Nup
It's just what they started doing many years ago for the above misguided reasons & nowadays supposedly marks a serious rider from a wannabe rider.

[quickbuck]

Anybody ever had any grief for standing when on the road. I do it often just for something different. Rode 15km standing the other day and got many stares from cagers. Have had road bikers waving at met to sit down cause there was a cop around the corner. Seems to me that most of our bikes are designed to be as controlable if not more so standing compared to sitting so shouldnt really be an issue. I've also been told that cause standing is not the norm is could be classed as careless riding.

Cheers R
Well, to be honest, I can not see why there would be an issue with standing on the pegs while riding....

After all, a very good rider will actually load pegs during cornering... The fact you put all your weight on both pegs and stand up... Well.... it gives you an opportunity to stretch your legs.
A good tactic I say.
What is the alternative?
Fatigue, and a bin!

Obviously you will get a better stretch of the legs at the fuel stop.... but the more you have the less chance of a dreaded knee lock-up...

Back to topic...
Never thought of wearing my cycling shorts to be honest... BUT it does make sense...
Sometimes I find the CBR Seat actually seems harder than that of the Avanti....

[quickbuck]

Nup
It's just what they started doing many years ago for the above misguided reasons & nowadays supposedly marks a serious rider from a wannabe rider.

You may be right...
but the reasons that have been said are actually very good.

[Padmei]

You may be right...
but the reasons that have been said are actually very good.

agreed. i should have reworded more appropriately.

[Crisis management]

I wear cycle shorts on the enduro & adventure bikes and it seems to make life a bit more comfortable, I haven't tried Warewolfs' commando look yet...maybe this weekend?

[Gizzit]

Thanks for the link Nordie, I'll have a look at them. :niceone:

[Padmei]

For those interested T7 have normal cycle shorts on sale this week for $25 which is velly velly cheap

mmmmmlycra (http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/T7SHLP8BS)

[Box'a'bits]

For those interested T7 have normal cycle shorts on sale this week for $25 which is velly velly cheap

mmmmmlycra (http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/T7SHLP8BS)
I see that you had the size setting to x-small...?:laugh::bleh:

[Padmei]

I see that you had the size setting to x-small...?:laugh::bleh:

Well they are for those that can't handle a day on a big wide motorbike seat so double :bleh::bleh: