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250learna
19th May 2005, 23:16
was filling up at bp upper hutt the other night with their sweet nectar(98) when a friendly guy working approached me.
He asked me if i was ok, i said yeah, (wouldnt trust anyone else to fill up my bike :nono: )
I got off the bike and started walking inside, he seemed like he has something to say so i turned around and gave him a friendly smile (helmet was off) than he said "you know you shouldnt be filling your bike up while you sit one it..." silance "ok sure" i said being polite, than he said "its just that sometimes when you fill up you can spill some petrol down the tank and onto your groin" ... silence (im thinking wow this guy knows his stuff) then he says, "if you then fall off and slide, that petrol can ignite and your groin will catch fire" :niceone:
after that last line i did my best to keep a straight face, but did a crap job of it :D
so keep that in mind guys
dun want any rosted nuts
johnsf1980
19th May 2005, 23:26
LOL :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme
"Goodness GRACIOUS, Great Balls of Fire!" - Jerry Lee Lewis
SuperDave
19th May 2005, 23:34
How does that work? I thought the petrol would just evaporate after a short while and there would be nothing to worry about?
Also, I think if you managed to end up such a position that your groin was sliding across the road you would have problems even without the flames...
yeah whenever I get some drops that seem to always get ontop of the tank from inside it :/ they disappear pretty quick.... But I would have told that dude that 1 in 5 bike bins are caused by 'the crotch fire demon' :killingme
Waylander
19th May 2005, 23:40
Not very smart is that attendant. Not only will it evaporate as Super Dave said but bikers never spill any go juice on the tank.
zadok
19th May 2005, 23:46
It's probably not a good idea to sit on your bike while you fill it, but as Waylander said , "Riders don't spill any go juice anyway". You still have to get off to go and pay, so to be on the safe side, get off to start with.
Marty :ride:
Well to ad to this, some dork fuck attendant tried to fill my tank! god damn I went skits - stupid fucks, you never touch another persons bike!
I always fill sitting on it I feel happier on than off I always put the sidestand down while filling in case somehow I do fall, and as for spilling - sif I ever spill that expensive shit!
I would have rofled at that guy.!
I have to agree with the well meaning guy on that one.
Why...
look down, what are you stood on?
concrete (slippy when wet)
oil on concrete (makes concrete wet)
petrol on oil on concrete (ice skates please)
it would only take one slip, one forget the side stand one moment to make you look like a complete and utter groin.
Imagine:
Your tank is full.
Just as you reach over for the cap you notice a some hot stuff getting out of a cage.
You nearly drop the cap, but reflexes kick in an you catch it.
Unfortunatly the bike over balances a little, you try and correct it.
As you move your foot, you find an oil slick...
next thing you know, your petrol tank is leaking a little cos the bike is on the floor and gravity sucks.
You would be really unlucky if your pipes were still hot enough to ignite the petrol, but if they did, then your groin could well be history...
Waylander
19th May 2005, 23:51
Well to ad to this, some dork fuck attendant tried to fill my tank! god damn I went skits - stupid fucks, you never touch another persons bike!
I always fill sitting on it I feel happier on than off I always put the sidestand down while filling in case somehow I do fall, and as for spilling - sif I ever spill that expensive shit!
I would have rofled at that guy.!
Hmm skinny little dude in biker leathers and helmet rolling around on the groud by the fuel pump laughing... aught to make an interesting scene. And maybe if you got yourself a better bike they would be too intimidated to touch it. They never try to fill mine.:Punk:
Waylander
19th May 2005, 23:53
it would only take one slip, one forget the side stand one moment to make you look like a complete and utter groin.
Imagine:
Your tank is full.
Just as you reach over for the cap you notice a some hot stuff getting out of a cage.
You nearly drop the cap, but reflexes kick in an you catch it.
Unfortunatly the bike over balances a little, you try and correct it.
As you move your foot, you find an oil slick...
next thing you know, your petrol tank is leaking a little cos the bike is on the floor and gravity sucks.
You would be really unlucky if your pipes were still hot enough to ignite the petrol, but if they did, then your groin could well be history...
Gotta love livin dangerously.:Punk: :devil2:
Hmm skinny little dude in biker leathers and helmet rolling around on the groud by the fuel pump laughing... aught to make an interesting scene. And maybe if you got yourself a better bike they would be too intimidated to touch it. They never try to fill mine.:Punk:
Thats because they are scared that they will be liable for it falling apart when they touch it..
dangerous
20th May 2005, 06:16
You guys need to look at the bigger picture....... BTW there is a huge thread somewere bout just this, I just dont get why ya have to sit on the bike you have way more control standing next to it...... and shit does happen, I have seen pics of servo fires, you may laough now :ride:
One of the pics I saw was a guy filling his tank while sitting on the bike, his cell fone rang in the frount pocket..... boom.
BTW ever consider that the servo workers are more worried about themselves and the rest of the people on the forcourt rather than you?
And remember, if something is said to you, they are only doing their job..... same with the helmets on thing :niceone:
stify
20th May 2005, 07:38
petrol on ya groin....even wit out fire guna feel like ya burnin :Oops:
hondacmx450
20th May 2005, 08:40
Thats because they are scared that they will be liable for it falling apart when they touch it..
hahaha it ant that bad um after it is fixed it will be good for another crash :killingme :killingme :killingme
Waylander
20th May 2005, 08:43
Thats because they are scared that they will be liable for it falling apart when they touch it..
Lol Was 'bout to say at this point it's probably true. Ohwell atleast it sorta runs now. Just gotta put the plugs back in and check it then I'll be over at 10 Bruce.
hondacmx450
20th May 2005, 08:43
petrol on ya groin....even wit out fire guna feel like ya burnin :Oops:
will clen the chezz :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme :whistle:
Lou Girardin
20th May 2005, 09:06
Groin fire? Sliding down the road? I guess it's possible if you've got titanium nuts.
Who sits on their bike when they fill it up anyway??/ :spudwhat: :no:
ManDownUnder
20th May 2005, 09:09
How does that work? I thought the petrol would just evaporate after a short while and there would be nothing to worry about?
Also, I think if you managed to end up such a position that your groin was sliding across the road you would have problems even without the flames...
Good GOD man - don't bring common sense into this !!!! :killingme :killingme :killingme
... actually I agree...
MDU
Hitcher
20th May 2005, 09:13
Said servo attendant made a good point but with a poor example.
Anybody, IMHO, who sits on their bike whilst filling it is a ferkin eedjit. The risks associated with easing in that extra 200mL of fuel just ain't worth it. Put it on its stand, get off and fill. That's not just safer for you, but for the service station and anybody else parked in proximity.
crashe
20th May 2005, 09:47
I have never and never would sit on my bike and fill it up.
I always get off the bike and put the stand down before even opening up the petrol cap. NO ONE is allowed to fill my bike either. Had a few garage attendants ask me if they could fill it, I politely said "no thanks, only bikers fill up their bikes".
I have seen a couple of bikers sitting on their bike and filling them up.
Lou Girardin
20th May 2005, 10:04
Who sits on their bike when they fill it up anyway??/ :spudwhat: :no:
I do. Always have, always will. That extra 200 ml of gas is worth fried nuts. (actually, it's about a litre)
Oakie
20th May 2005, 10:09
Well I've always sat on my bike to fill it up just because it's easier to see how full the tank is getting ... but perhaps I might have to rethink that.
I have heard stories of static electricity igniting the fumes during a fill and it even happened to a guy I worked with a few years back.
And I have actually seen, (well ... heard the screams from across the road) a guy who toasted his nuts after he spilt meths on his lap while doing something and then lit a match a short time later. Put him in hospital for a while.
bugjuice
20th May 2005, 10:29
I think some of the main dangers of sitting on the bike while filling is that there's often the Pajero mark on the floor (diesel) which is slippy so you could loose your footing while reaching for the fuel gun, then you go over, with your bike on top of you, and an open fuel tank. Oh joy.
Second is that the bike is level if you fill it near or to the brim, but then you put it on the side stand and the fuel spills out cos it's gone over. It should run down the overflow tube and out the bottom of the bike. Onto the floor. In front of your back tyre. fun huh?
Thirdly, if that tube is blocked, or can't drain the fuel quick enough, then it spills out where ever. Onto your hot headers? hmmmm.. hot engine, easily ignitable liquid.. that should be a barrel-o-laughs..
and this is just the fun bits.. on top of that, if it all goes up, there's thousands of gallons of fuel around... etc etc..
get off the bike. You're not the only one in the gas station.
Hitcher
20th May 2005, 10:41
I do. Always have, always will. That extra 200 ml of gas is worth fried nuts. (actually, it's about a litre)
Do you get off when it's time to pay?
Lou Girardin
20th May 2005, 11:08
Pay? Pay what?
Wenier
20th May 2005, 11:22
I agree with everyone on the why sit on your bike, stability becomes a big issue. And really your gonna get jus as much fuel with it on the stand as with sitting on it, the 200ml aint gonna get ya that much closer to a petrol station if ya run outa gas.
Years ago I filled the bike while it was on its centre stand - great until I got up the road a way, put it on its side stand and had petrol leak out from the cap and flood over the side of the tank. Ever since then I've always filled with the bike on the side stand no matter which bike.
I don't like servo staff trying to fill my bike as they tend to shut off the flow and extract the nozzle simultaneously, resulting in petrol being spilled all over the paintwork. I seldom spill petrol (being of mixed heritage including Scottish - and one of my ancestors was born on the boat en route from Scotland to NZ if that's any clue to the lengths to which our family will go to avoid paying a full fare...) and get pissed off enough at myself for doing so. Also Forecourt PFY's are frequently limp-wristed enough to fail to lift the nozzle clear and often leave fucking great scratches across the top of the tank whilst leaving said dribble of petrol.
The trick is to look a lot more initidating than I so they stay well clear of you and your bike and holler "just mail us the money, bro, she'll be right". I frequently have to say "nah, mate, she's right," to bright-eyed, helpful attendants when I roll up for fuel. There really ought to be something in their induction that says "if they turned up on a motorbike, they are quite capable of getting their own petrol - it's only the incompetent losers in cages that need spoon feeding."
The more experienced attendants, I notice, acknowledge you with a nod and a smile and leave you to it - they later materialise when you're hanging the nozzle up in case you have the money on hand to save you having to walk into the building.
Do you get off when it's time to pay?
I don't "Get Off" when it's time to pay... :o well maybe if the attendant is especially hot..... Oh and female (thought I should add that) :killingme
Pixie
20th May 2005, 12:01
The trick is to look a lot more initidating than I so they stay well clear of you and your bike and holler "just mail us the money, bro, she'll be right". .
Foaming at the mouth (and any other orifices if you can manage it) helps too.
As does gibbering maniacally.
Seriously, though,there are other reasons you don't want to flush your genitals with volatile hydrocarbons. :eek:
I don't have an issue with attendants trying to fill the bike up or even offering, must have that look that Wolf mentioned sorted.
Seriously, though,there are other reasons you don't want to flush your genitals with volatile hydrocarbons. :eek:
Becaused You'd become a sex bomb?:killingme
Ixion
20th May 2005, 12:04
Becaused You'd become a sex bomb?:killingme
Timebomb rather. That eventually explodes into the big C.
hmmm strange guy approaches You & talks about Your crotch?
you get that often? 8-)
Do you get off when it's time to pay?
I'm part Scotish, I'd be more inclined to "get off" on not paying... :devil2:
I don't have an issue with attendants trying to fill the bike up or even offering, must have that look that Wolf mentioned sorted.
Well, if you live up to your nickname, you probably do...
250learna
20th May 2005, 12:43
I have to agree with the well meaning guy on that one.
Why...
look down, what are you stood on?
concrete (slippy when wet)
oil on concrete (makes concrete wet)
petrol on oil on concrete (ice skates please)
it would only take one slip, one forget the side stand one moment to make you look like a complete and utter groin.
Imagine:
Your tank is full.
Just as you reach over for the cap you notice a some hot stuff getting out of a cage.
You nearly drop the cap, but reflexes kick in an you catch it.
Unfortunatly the bike over balances a little, you try and correct it.
As you move your foot, you find an oil slick...
next thing you know, your petrol tank is leaking a little cos the bike is on the floor and gravity sucks.
You would be really unlucky if your pipes were still hot enough to ignite the petrol, but if they did, then your groin could well be history...
ok well for starters if i see any oil or such spilled i will not stop at that pump :nono: i dont know bout you but i dun like slipry tyres :whistle:
when you stop, if there was oil or or rain bypassed the cover, you would fall off long before i reach for petrol (if you are realy that unstable)
and if you value a perv more than your bike :no: than you got some serious issues... or maybe I do? :confused: :love:
250learna
20th May 2005, 12:47
hmmm strange guy approaches You & talks about Your crotch?
you get that often? 8-)
NO!!! :shifty:
who have you been talking to??? :whistle:
scumdog
20th May 2005, 14:25
Who sits on their bike when they fill it up anyway??/ :spudwhat: :no:
Me.
All the time.
Stop close enough to pumpso I can reach it easily
If any slippery 'Pajero marks' were close enough to the pump I'm using to be a danger then the Pajero would have had to been parked on top of the bloody pump at some stage!!
Paying?
At home: "put it on my account".
Elsewhere: Chrissy-Bimbo (who is already off the bike) goes in and pays for it.
If I filled my bike while it was on the stand I would have to fill it from the left (not always easy) and "that last 200ml" in my case would be another 30km of riding.
BTW At Haast on the way to the Hokitika rally saw a dude on an Aspencade type bike do the 'right thing' and park his bike and he STILL managed to spray us with fuel.
Ya just have to take care
Skyryder
20th May 2005, 22:03
So your're siting on on your bike filling up and get rearended. So here you are down on the ground with the bike on top of you unable to get up and litres of petrol spilling out of the tank. OK this may not happen but for those that sit on your bikie while filling, where would you sooner be if some dork rearends you, sitting on your bike or standing??
Skyreder
I do. Always have, always will. That extra 200 ml of gas is worth fried nuts. (actually, it's about a litre)I too oppose the 'sitonyorebike'nfill' method of pouring petrol into the tank! The only practical reason for doing it would be to keep the bike vertical so you can squeeze in that extra 200mls of gas in the top of the tank? Otherwise surely it's just a form of laziness?? You have to eventually remove your lazy carcass off the seat to pay the bill anyways so why not get off to fill the darn thing too?
You could always buy a bike with a centre stand! :msn-wink:
Anything to add Lou?
Jeremy
20th May 2005, 22:30
The thing is though that 200mls is quite a large number of ks on some bikes. Though you probably gain more than 200mls just by filling up in the early morning when petrol is at it densest.
Stevo
20th May 2005, 22:51
Me.
All the time.
If I filled my bike while it was on the stand I would have to fill it from the left (not always easy) and "that last 200ml" in my case would be another 30km of riding.
Dream on.............. obviously not referring Fuelly Suckitdown Sportster.
Always head for the pump with most diesel and oil on the ground! :D Makes for a more impressive light up on the way out that way :msn-wink:
Skunk
20th May 2005, 22:54
I don't understand.
If you need the bike upright to fit the extra in - what happens when you then put the bike on it's stand to go and pay?
Even with the cap closed it'll still run out the overflow or vent. And if it doesn't, did you really need it upright anyway?
What the point? When the bike goes onto reserve you fill up. That means there's at least 3 litres still in there. Or do you ride round and round the block till thats gone so you can fit more in?
I don't get the point of squeezing as much in as you can. There's so many reasons not to and no decent ones to do it. That goes for cars, motorbikes, whatever. Fill up, yes. To the brim, not me.
Each to there own I guess. I just like to be well away from those that do sit'n'fill.
250learna
20th May 2005, 22:58
I too oppose the 'sitonyorebike'nfill' method of pouring petrol into the tank! The only practical reason for doing it would be to keep the bike vertical so you can squeeze in that extra 200mls of gas in the top of the tank? Otherwise surely it's just a form of laziness?? You have to eventually remove your lazy carcass off the seat to pay the bill anyways so why not get off to fill the darn thing too?
You could always buy a bike with a centre stand! :msn-wink:
Anything to add Lou?
i didnt use to do it but my m8 told me he recons i can get much more petrol in, so i decided to see how much more k's i can get out this way (doing 3 trail runs :ride: )
than i will decide
and as for having to get off, sorry bud but you can always pay of the card at the pump :D if you are reayl lazy (i dont think you can get AA points this way tho ?!?)
Stevo
20th May 2005, 23:03
I don't sit on de bike to fill any longer. Never really put much thought into it till I read the other thread about it. After that it just seemed like a risk I did not need to take
Stevo
20th May 2005, 23:10
Possibly another reason I get off to fill........................... my boney little ass needs the relief.
Must eat more pies, must eat more pies, must........
250learna
20th May 2005, 23:50
I don't sit on de bike to fill any longer. Never really put much thought into it till I read the other thread about it. After that it just seemed like a risk I did not need to take
whats that other thread? can you give me the name or a link plz? :yes:
inlinefour
20th May 2005, 23:54
SMOKIN!!!! :killingme
dangerous
21st May 2005, 10:12
whats that other thread? can you give me the name or a link plz? :yes:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=6803 that be the one ya after..... took 30min to bloody find, gee I had a bit too say LOL :D
250learna
21st May 2005, 10:47
thanks dangerous, i think thats it :niceone:
scumdog
21st May 2005, 17:36
Dream on.............. obviously not referring Fuelly Suckitdown Sportster.
Always head for the pump with most diesel and oil on the ground! :D Makes for a more impressive light up on the way out that way :msn-wink:
The Sporty gets over 55mpg ( sort of 4.5 litres per 100km - I think) and the difference between filling upright and filling on stand is over half liter+-.
And had a lot of you bothered to read my previous post you would have relaise that CB pays :D and MOST of the time when I fill up while riding solo it is local Caltex where I have an account so it's "put it down for me eh? - they know me and don't bother asking what account - and don't give me grief about getting off the bike or taking my helmet off when I DO get off to pay.
Each to their own - after all if you get rear ended while standing beside your bike then you are also likely to get run over .
Beemer
21st May 2005, 17:55
Brings a whole new meaning to toasted nuts, doesn't it! I always get off my bike because I'm not overly tall and trying to lean over and unhook the fuel pump nozzle while seated on a bike would not be an easy task. Also, in the days of my RG150, I usually had a tank bag on and needed to remove that to fill it. With the Beemer, most attendents look at where the tank should be (adjacent to the bars) and scratch their heads (it's under the seat and the filler is on the right hand side!) - not that I'd let them fill it in a million years anyway! I like to fill it myself so the bike doesn't get scratched and they don't drip fuel on it - and I'm happy for them to stand around and chat while I'm doing it.
NordieBoy
21st May 2005, 19:33
Years ago I filled the bike while it was on its centre stand - great until I got up the road a way, put it on its side stand and had petrol leak out from the cap and flood over the side of the tank. Ever since then I've always filled with the bike on the side stand no matter which bike.
The problem with the Savage is the petrol cap is on the right.
So when you fill up it's vertical - great.
But if you really fill it up then when riding off down the road you get a burning sensation as your leg is now soaked in petrol that's oozed out of the cap... :no:
NordieBoy
21st May 2005, 19:35
gee I had a bit too say LOL :D
Nah, I don't believe it - you? :nono: :mad: :D :yes:
The problem with the Savage is the petrol cap is on the right.
So when you fill up it's vertical - great.
But if you really fill it up then when riding off down the road you get a burning sensation as your leg is now soaked in petrol that's oozed out of the cap... :no:
I've obviously never over-filled the Tame Savage cause I've never had that problem. The RX was the one when I decided to get every last drop I could into the tank. I don't know if it had an overflow pipe or not but most of the stuff seemed to be leaking out slowly from around the tank seal when I put it back on the side stand.
Just wondering.... is there a shortage of gas stations out there somewhere that the 200ml extra is so important?
Brings a whole new meaning to toasted nuts, doesn't it! I always get off my bike because I'm not overly tall and trying to lean over and unhook the fuel pump nozzle while seated on a bike would not be an easy task. Also, in the days of my RG150, I usually had a tank bag on and needed to remove that to fill it. With the Beemer, most attendents look at where the tank should be (adjacent to the bars) and scratch their heads (it's under the seat and the filler is on the right hand side!) - not that I'd let them fill it in a million years anyway! I like to fill it myself so the bike doesn't get scratched and they don't drip fuel on it - and I'm happy for them to stand around and chat while I'm doing it.
Would love to see someone with a one of the new F650s try and fill up whilst sat on the bike!
dangerous
22nd May 2005, 13:21
Would love to see someone with a one of the new F650s try and fill up whilst sat on the bike!
LOL.... good point or the Laverda RGS 1000 (in frount of fairing) and 750SF (under rear seat) :D
LOL.... good point or the Laverda RGS 1000 (in frount of fairing) and 750SF (under rear seat) :D
The Zundapp's cap was under the seat (not too surprising in a scooter configuration) so I had to fill that while standing. It also used to lean quite a bit on its side stand so I suspect you could probably have got bloody-near another litre in it if you stood it upright while filling. (then you'd have to find room for the extra oil it would need for that litre of petrol)
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