How Many Bikers Smoke? [Archive]

John

20th May 2005, 02:44

I'm sure you have your reasons.

My dad got 2 heart attacks thanks to them. But he's a tough old bastard.

Not good things those heart attacks:no:
Hehehe, my dad was the oposite - smoked from 8 till 86 then stopped, developed cancer where men dont want it and passed on.

Heart attacks aint a good'n I know what your saying, sounds like a rugged dude.

Hitcher

20th May 2005, 09:21

I don't smoke, but I still get hot...

Haven't smoked since the days of Mild 10s in the Seventh Form common room. That's some considerable period of time...

XTC

20th May 2005, 09:31

I have my reasons for doing it, and I'm not inclinded to share them.
Makes ya look cool eh?

John

20th May 2005, 09:42

Makes ya look cool eh?
Oh yea I enjoy looking cool, lame dude.

Odin

20th May 2005, 09:42

I gave up 5 days ago after smoking for 20 years :puke:

I read the book by Allen Carr called "The easyway to stop smoking" It works ok as long as you want to give up.

"Does your wife smoke after sex.... ????"
" eehh, ... No, but she does sweat a lot ...!"

Biff

20th May 2005, 09:44

Odin

20th May 2005, 09:46

I have my reasons for doing it, and I'm not inclinded to share them.

... you dont have to smoke that.... you can bake it in to brownies or make it in to tea :whistle: .... Or did i get that all wrong :D

Lou Girardin

20th May 2005, 09:53

Just tyres.

zadok

20th May 2005, 10:17

Just tyres.
Good one, Mate.

I'm very impressed with the poll result so far...two thirds don't smoke!
I've found the trend at work seems to be less guys are smoking and more gals are, and considering, at my work, guys outnumber the gals quite considerably, that's amazing.

Marty :ride:

bugjuice

20th May 2005, 10:19

I only smoke after sex.. yeah baby, yeah!!! :yeah:

as for those cancer sticky things, nope. never have, never will.
Sorry, just really don't see the appeal of sticking smoke into your lungs. mmmmmm

Grizz

20th May 2005, 10:19

After smoking for amlost 20 years, have now been off the smokes for 8 months, I wonder why I ever did it now.

T.I.E

20th May 2005, 10:35

i said if i gave up smoking i would buy myself a bigger better bike than the gpx250 i had at the time.

i'm loving the cbr. it's totally worth it.

Motu

20th May 2005, 10:40

I grew up in a period when everyone smoked - you were considered a bit unusual if you didn't smoke....I'm running out of ways to be different....nah,not really,just joking.

Mr Skid

20th May 2005, 10:41

I only smoke after sex.. yeah baby, yeah!!! :yeah:So you're a non-smoker then?

Ixion

20th May 2005, 11:26

I grew up in a period when everyone smoked - you were considered a bit unusual if you didn't smoke....I'm running out of ways to be different....nah,not really,just joking.

I wsa considered vey odd and suspect because I didn't smoke. As Mr Motu says , everyone did.

I didn't simply because after trying it for a month or so when I was 16, I concluded that it was ridiculously overrated, and did absolutely nothing for me.

First ciggy " Oh wow, I'm gonna smoke a cigareete. I'm cool yeah - smoke smoke smoke - Uh when is this supposed to feel good ? ". No sick, no buzz, no nothing. Second, third etc. Just tedious , boring and tasted bad. Never got any sort of buzz or anything else. Stopped bothering after a month , just a waste of time and money.

While smoking remained universal I'd sometimes accept one if offered and smoke it (even carried a pack to reciprocate) , it was easier than the explanations and odd looks if I said I didn't. Never did anything at all for me, never been able to understand why people do it.

Skunk

20th May 2005, 11:50

I'm very impressed with the poll result so far...two thirds don't smoke!
I've found the trend at work seems to be less guys are smoking and more gals are, and considering, at my work, guys outnumber the gals quite considerably, that's amazing.
My work has 21 staff, zero smokers. Only 4 females though... :(

XTC

20th May 2005, 11:54

Oh yea I enjoy looking cool, lame dude.
Sorry john I was just kidding :o I shouldn't say anything about other peoples bad habits as I can't seem to stop picking my nose and scratching my arse in public... :D

bugjuice

20th May 2005, 11:54

So you're a non-smoker then?
ahhhh touché...

chickenfunkstar

20th May 2005, 12:18

Yes, I smoke,
yes, I know its bad for you
yes, I know its pointless

Most of my friends smoke, I guess its a sort of an indirect peer pressure thing.
We all started at the same time.

Eurodave

20th May 2005, 12:54

Nah, dont smoke,listening to my, now dead, old man cough up a lung every morning when I was young , put me right off.
Besides Ive now got too many bikes to feed & care for anyway

Motoracer

20th May 2005, 13:03

Used to enjoy smokin socially only but don't smoke no more at all, for the name of racing and fitness that is required for it.

Quasievil

20th May 2005, 13:07

never have never will, completely un addictive personality apart from Bikes.

mind I have been known to smoke the odd trout here and there, not to mention suzuki riders
(fuck I am one have to change my opinion DOH!)

erik

20th May 2005, 13:14

Tried smoking, but the idea of smoke going in my lungs doesn't appeal to me, nor does the fear of the damage it might do, so I prefferred brownies. Never tried tea though. Beer is good enough for me now though. ;)

Haven't ever tried smoking a cigarette and don't think I ever will.
Smoking/tobacco companies is one of the things I can get a bit worked up about, particularly when I think about people I care about going for a ciggy to try to cope with stress.

sels1

20th May 2005, 13:16

Q. Do you smoke after intercourse?
A I'm not sure, I never looked!

Started smoking at college, gave up after my eldest was born. However, if you ply me with enough beer, I sometimes have one. In fact the last few times have been at KB related things. (@pub after Flyins funeral, Waikato Rally) You lot must be a bad infuence...... :D

phantom

20th May 2005, 13:21

used to smoke with my mates at the pub on a Friday evening but never did anything for me and never got hooked thank god

Coldkiwi

20th May 2005, 14:16

Would I deliberately fart at people i'm in the same room with? probably not

Seems like a sensible sort of logic to carry over to smoking to me! (that and the fact that it would've killed me in short order with my asthma).
The loss of money is just a side issue.

Waylander

20th May 2005, 14:25

Rainbow Wizard

20th May 2005, 17:58

I gave up 5 days ago after smoking for 20 years :puke:
I read the book by Allen Carr called "The easyway to stop smoking" It works ok as long as you want to give up.
I am favourably impressed by the poll figures, it shows that KB members who respond to polls about smoking are a very large majority. :niceone:

soundbeltfarm

20th May 2005, 19:12

i dont smoke i dont like the smell of burning rubber so i use K-Y
it seems to help alot.
come to think of it maybe this tells me foreplay isnt my forte..

Ghost Lemur

20th May 2005, 19:20

Yes I smoke.

So what.

Also drink, ZOMG. :nono:

Used to do copious amount of illicit drugs too.

The point of this thread is?

And for the record I've never tried giving up, or thought about it, nor do I intend to.

Each to their own.

SPORK

20th May 2005, 19:22

Don't see the point. Although sometime when idilly tricking with my zippo i think how cool it would be to smoke a pipe...

XTC

20th May 2005, 20:59

she_said

20th May 2005, 21:05

Dont see the piont of cigarettes but i dont have a problem with people who smoke. I suppose smoking is just another way people express themselves but who cares :whocares: Its just another way for me and my mates to make extra money at school. Sellin ciggys to 14yr old 'homies' and 'gangsters' for a buck each at school!

Skyryder

20th May 2005, 21:41

Been off thirty odd years. The only thing I smole now is Harleys. Just love to drag those fuckers.

Skyryder

Biff

20th May 2005, 21:46

Sorry - Was the question "do you smoke?". I though it was "do you stroke?".

Please ignore my vote.

MikeL

20th May 2005, 21:58

Although sometime when idilly tricking with my zippo i think how cool it would be to smoke a pipe...

If you're going to smoke, cigars or a pipe are way cooler than cigarettes.
Not that I can afford cigars in my straightened cricumstances, but I do enjoy a puff on my pipe from time to time...
I've never really seen the point of cigarettes.

The Tazman

20th May 2005, 22:18

Tried it as a kid, took a drag hurt like hell as it went down and thought that dosen't feel good I won't do that again!!!!!! Was not one to do things just besause others did. It also killed my DAD at 61. Alive and fine in the July dead in the September. I can give you all the lovely details of what it did to him if it will help anyone stop!!!

Never understood how someone lets themselves get controlled by a dried up plant in some paper! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Sorry just really hate the habit.

that's my rant. I had better go before I really get into it.

Take care all

Taz

Zed

20th May 2005, 22:32

Was in the shop getting some cancer sticks couple of weeks back, and got asked 'why do all bikers smoke', I know a hell of alot dont but just wondering how many do?I find that most *non-bikers* have a number of wrong assumptions in their own minds about us 'roughians that ride motorcycles'. :D

Btw, no I'm not addicted to cigarettes, I.e. smoke.

Ghost Lemur

20th May 2005, 22:40

If you're going to smoke, cigars or a pipe are way cooler than cigarettes.
Not that I can afford cigars in my straightened cricumstances, but I do enjoy a puff on my pipe from time to time...
I've never really seen the point of cigarettes.

I only manage to afford 1 real cigar a year.

As for the pipe. Tried it and like it, but think I'll save that for my "dirty old man" years.

What?

21st May 2005, 06:20

I gave up 5 days ago after smoking for 20 years :puke:

I read the book by Allen Carr called "The easyway to stop smoking" It works ok as long as you want to give up...
You are dead right - you have to want to stop. I went from 200/week to nothing about 18 years ago - cold turkey, no patches, lollies or other crutches other than the desire to stop suffering chronic bronchitis for 3 months every year.

maybe

22nd May 2005, 00:10

I stopped last year after two heart attacks almost killed me, doc said if I did not stop and had another attack he may not be able to work as hard to keep me alive.........

Slingshot

22nd May 2005, 10:53

":whocares: Its just another way for me and my mates to make extra money at school. Sellin ciggys to 14yr old 'homies' and 'gangsters' for a buck each at school!"

..................:Punk:

soundbeltfarm

22nd May 2005, 11:41

NhuanH

22nd May 2005, 12:17

not me, not I.

And gotta say, love the Smokefree bar legislation too! No more coming home stinky of ciggy smoke. Just one non-smoker's perspective.....

crazylittleshit

22nd May 2005, 12:19

Riding is stress Relif enough for me :drinknsin

John

22nd May 2005, 12:58

not me, not I.

And gotta say, love the Smokefree bar legislation too! No more coming home stinky of ciggy smoke. Just one non-smoker's perspective.....
On that note, dont you hate clubs now? the smokes covered up the smell of B.O and alcohol, well thats my perspective.

THE CHEF

22nd May 2005, 13:19

NhuanH

22nd May 2005, 13:35

On that note, dont you hate clubs now? the smokes covered up the smell of B.O and alcohol, well thats my perspective.
hmmm....you must have some funky clubs up there in Whangarei bro! :Pokey:

I find that while you're lagered you don't notice stinky people too much - it's just the morning after when you could smell the smoker's corner of the club all through your good duds, your hair, her hair.....actually sometimes depending on her, her smokey stinky hair is the least of your worries.... :Oops:

Ghost Lemur

22nd May 2005, 13:44

On that note, dont you hate clubs now? the smokes covered up the smell of B.O and alcohol, well thats my perspective.

You're not the only one. Thankfully I don't go out much. But the couple of times I have since the law change I've noticed some seriously smelly people fulling up the clubs. So much for smoking killing my sense of smell, if it's bad to me I'd hate to think how you sensitive noses find it.

NhuanH

22nd May 2005, 13:47

You're not the only one. Thankfully I don't go out much. But the couple of times I have since the law change I've noticed some seriously smelly people fulling up the clubs. So much for smoking killing my sense of smell, if it's bad to me I'd hate to think how you sensitive noses find it.
Dammmmnnnn, remind me to avoid drinking establishments in both Whangarei and ChCh.....

With love,
Your resident JAFA :msn-wink:

John

22nd May 2005, 14:02

Dammmmnnnn, remind me to avoid drinking establishments in both Whangarei and ChCh.....

With love,
Your resident JAFA :msn-wink:

Its more clubs than bars..

But, I lived in auckland - I noticed it when the reform came in when I went clubbing that weekend (I think it was that weekend or the next weekend whatever), I used to 'hit' the clubs so to speak every weekend, and after the no - smoking reform, I ended up comming home early It was like a sweaty man pit - hated it, havent tried any of the clubs around here, because why would you want to :killingme:killingme... I mean its dodgy enough just parking up and having a coffee.

Coldkiwi

23rd May 2005, 13:32

You are dead right - you have to want to stop. I went from 200/week to nothing about 18 years ago - cold turkey, no patches, lollies or other crutches other than the desire to stop suffering chronic bronchitis for 3 months every year.

3 months of bronchitis?? that IS a good reason to want to stop. Maybe its why more people smoke up north?

23rd May 2005, 13:54

I only smoke at work, and when I'm a bit errr wasted when I'm out on the town :D

John

23rd May 2005, 14:01

3 months of bronchitis?? that IS a good reason to want to stop. Maybe its why more people smoke up north?
Could you please explain that, I'm sort of confused by what you mean.. ?

eliot-ness

23rd May 2005, 14:03

started smoking about a million years ago. Hasn't killed me yet. Any chance of getting my money back??????

zooter

24th May 2005, 00:06

I don't smoke
I don't smoke
I don't smoke
I don't smoke
I don't smoke
I don't smoke
I don't smoke
I don't smoke
I don't smoke
I don't smoke
I don't smoke

If I say it enough times I'll begin believing it.
3 nearly 4 weeks without, save for the odd relapse when drinking beer or wine.
Biff, you are in a particularly difficult position. Every time you smoke one your nicotine level goes back to that of a smoker. You start quitting from scratch every time you have one. Read Allan Carr's book and be free. Here's a little of what he will prove to you:
Quitting is easy.
It takes no willpower.
Substitutes make it more difficult to quit.

How can a substance (nicotine) on the one hand help concentration and on the other hand help you to relax? How can it relieve both boredom and stress? The truth is that it does none of these things. These are myths generated in smokers minds by the subtlety of the nicotine addiction aided by the brainwashing we receive from a society that has accepted the myths as facts.

It takes Allen Carr a whole book to prove his case but he does a very good job of it. Highly recommended reading.

zooter

24th May 2005, 00:16

You are dead right - you have to want to stop. I went from 200/week to nothing about 18 years ago - cold turkey, no patches, lollies or other crutches other than the desire to stop suffering chronic bronchitis for 3 months every year.

Well done that man. But you're misguided about your ideas on smokers. EVERY smoker wishes he never started. No smoker recommends his kids get hooked on nicotine. No smoker will give Alllen Carr a year's tobacco money upfront so he can make good his pledge to supply them with free tobacco for the rest of their life. Think about it, you'd be 2 grand up after three years.

Every smoker wishes to no longer be a smoker but either can't face the mythical withdrawal pangs ( actually the anguish of wanting something and not being allowed it ) or kids himself he is better off leaving it to the right time to quit, which never comes.

Poor bastards. Nobody told them they would be hooked from the 2nd cigarette.

zooter

24th May 2005, 00:24

Yes, I smoke,
yes, I know its bad for you
yes, I know its pointless

Most of my friends smoke, I guess its a sort of an indirect peer pressure thing.
We all started at the same time.
There is only one reason anybody smokes, to get the nicotine. All the cultural stuff is just a "smokescreen". You wouldn't copy your friends in any other dead end pursuit with no benefits to anyone whatsoever. Obviously you haven't put a lot of thought into it yet.

zooter

24th May 2005, 00:29

It's only a stress thing for me. Calms me down internaly so I can relax and think through problems without getting overly frustrated. My bike does this most of the time but when it's not running... Will be quiting again now though.:ride:
Read Allen Carrs book before you quit and you'll take back everything you wrote above! You might believe smoking helps stress but you have been conned. Same as every other smoker on the planet. It's a world wide conspiracy which is only just starting to unravel.

zooter

24th May 2005, 00:53

i said if i gave up smoking i would buy myself a bigger better bike than the gpx250 i had at the time.

i'm loving the cbr. it's totally worth it.
Beware, you haven't addressed the reason you smoked, at any time you could be hooked again just by smoking one cigarette, then another after a small interval when you feel it appropriate but you don't feel hooked, then before you know it there's 20 appropriate times a day ... how did that happen? Nicotine addiction. Read Allen Carrs book and be guaranteed never to smoke again.

There is actually danger in relying on rewards. The reward has no relation to the reasons for smoking. It does nothing to diminish the feeling of giving up the nicotine.

For a biker attempting to quit on the promise of shouting himself a new bike, the reward of the bike may not compensate for the misery of "giving up" the cigarettes. Logically he was right to prioritise a new bike over the cigs but under the stress of "giving up" the priorities are apt to change. 'Life is miserable without cigs', a new bike is still miles off anyway, 'I'll just have one to help me over this rough patch'.... 'I'll quit in time to get a new bike next summer'... still a smoker.
The only incentive you should need is to be free of having to smoke. Anything else is window dressing.

The trick is not wanting to smoke for the right reason, there is actually nothing to give up, just a pesky desire to top up the nicotine level in the blood and feel normal. Read Allen Carrs book!

Waylander

24th May 2005, 02:59

Read Allen Carrs book before you quit and you'll take back everything you wrote above! You might believe smoking helps stress but you have been conned. Same as every other smoker on the planet. It's a world wide conspiracy which is only just starting to unravel.

If you mean by ad campaigns and such from big tobaco and what not then you're wrong. Atleast for me. Never really bought intoall that. What I posted is just what I experiance. It may not be anything in the cigarettes that make me relax, just a phsycological crutch, but it works. Anyway my bike somewhat works now so the last pack is gone. This time I hope for a long, long time.

zooter

24th May 2005, 19:28

If you mean by ad campaigns and such from big tobaco and what not then you're wrong. Atleast for me. Never really bought intoall that. What I posted is just what I experiance. It may not be anything in the cigarettes that make me relax, just a phsycological crutch, but it works. Anyway my bike somewhat works now so the last pack is gone. This time I hope for a long, long time.
Congratulations
My comments still stand. Phsycological crutch it may appear to be but if you read Mr Carrs book you will understand how you came to believe that and be free of the temptation to ever smoke again.

chickenfunkstar

25th May 2005, 12:32

There is only one reason anybody smokes, to get the nicotine. All the cultural stuff is just a "smokescreen". You wouldn't copy your friends in any other dead end pursuit with no benefits to anyone whatsoever. Obviously you haven't put a lot of thought into it yet.

Obviously not...

zooter

25th May 2005, 21:44

Obviously not...
So what's the worst that could happen if you decided to smoke your last cigarette?
Once you have the correct mental framework the nicotine withdrawl is ridiculously easy to cope with. That's why everyone believes it is necessary to have to "want to give up". This is like saying you have to want to get on a bus to get on a bus. Getting rid of the idea that there is anything to give up makes it a nondecision. This is what Allen Carrs book does. Best $28 you'll ever spend in your life.

k14

25th May 2005, 22:33

leave us alone we pay shit loads of tax.
smoking is a art form.
smokers dont live so long witch is a good thing if you live past 70 you start costing more health bills etc.
plus lets take away the 600 mil the goverment earns each year and see what happens , ps the goverment deep down dose not want us to give up

and if no one smoked you would have nothing to bitch about .

Yeah thats right, but how much of the 600 mil goes into the healthcare for the smoking related illinesses??

I hate people smoking anywhere near i am, but if they want to stuff their lifes up then thats their choice. Anyway how many f1/motogp etc teams are sponsored by ciggy companies?? Good way to spend the money in my mind.

zooter

26th May 2005, 19:54

Yeah thats right, but how much of the 600 mil goes into the healthcare for the smoking related illinesses??

I hate people smoking anywhere near i am, but if they want to stuff their lifes up then thats their choice. Anyway how many f1/motogp etc teams are sponsored by ciggy companies?? Good way to spend the money in my mind.

Choice has nothing to do with it. Nobody chooses to become a smoker. Nicotine addiction is the only reason people inhale the toxic fumes. The fear and suffering of "giving up" is all that keeps them going. Choice doesn't come into it.

jaybee

27th May 2005, 22:46

oldrider

24th August 2005, 17:49

I don't, my choice. If you do, your choice, enjoy, with my blessing.
please don't make your choice mine.
Stuff Helen Clark and her smoke/anti freedom/Nazis but I have to admit I enjoy the result of their obsession. :hitcher: Damn It. John.

TLDV8

24th August 2005, 18:55

leave us alone we pay shit loads of tax.
smoking is a art form.
smokers dont live so long witch is a good thing if you live past 70 you start costing more health bills etc.
plus lets take away the 600 mil the goverment earns each year and see what happens , ps the goverment deep down dose not want us to give up

and if no one smoked you would have nothing to bitch about .

I think it is more like 800 million in cigarette tax as reported in the Herald...
i gave up around 2 1/2 years ago...i still remember Greys at 30c ,Black and White... Mmmm a smoke and coffee :violin: :rofl:

TLDV8

24th August 2005, 18:58

Well done that man. But you're misguided about your ideas on smokers. EVERY smoker wishes he never started. No smoker recommends his kids get hooked on nicotine. No smoker will give Alllen Carr a year's tobacco money upfront so he can make good his pledge to supply them with free tobacco for the rest of their life. Think about it, you'd be 2 grand up after three years.

Every smoker wishes to no longer be a smoker but either can't face the mythical withdrawal pangs ( actually the anguish of wanting something and not being allowed it ) or kids himself he is better off leaving it to the right time to quit, which never comes.

Poor bastards. Nobody told them they would be hooked from the 2nd cigarette.

I take it you are a X smoker ?..actually you can't be with the contridiction "No smoker recommends his kids get hooked on nicotine" .... "Every smoker wishes to no longer be a smoker but either can't face the mythical withdrawal pangs ( actually the anguish of wanting something and not being allowed it )"

SARGE

24th August 2005, 19:10

Was in the shop getting some cancer sticks couple of weeks back, and got asked 'why do all bikers smoke', I know a hell of alot dont but just wondering how many do?

smoked up to 3 packs of Marlboro Reds a day.. down to about a pack a day now..ive been smoking since i was 12.. 30+ years .. i have tried quitting but fuck it.. (why is it that you are a " recovering Alchoholic" .. never a "recovering Smoker")

when i got here to NZ .. i was used to paying US$2.35 a pack.. got here and HOLY SHIT!! .. $12.00 a pack??!!...im still smoking though..

i also smoke Cigars ( bigassed Cubans.. thats a FELONY back home. :devil2: )

i just smoke to piss everyone off now.. actually had a lady at the mall the other day give me heaps cuz i was SMOKING OUTSIDE while sitting on my bike..

"fuck death and the lung cancer he rode in on"
John Wayne

Navy Gixer

24th August 2005, 19:19

If some one has never smoked, they cant understand how hard it is to stop, for a packet a day smoker they cant understand why someone wants to give up. I'm a smoker thats in the process of giving up and after 15 years it's not easy.

Rainbow Wizard

24th August 2005, 19:20

Choice has nothing to do with it. Nobody chooses to become a smoker. Nicotine addiction is the only reason people inhale the toxic fumes. The fear and suffering of "giving up" is all that keeps them going. Choice doesn't come into it.
You friggin whimp! And a con man, but only of yourself. Starting smoking IS a personal choice, continuing to smoke IS ALSO a personal choice, albeit coerced by nicotine addiction. BUT, people do give up, and good on 'em. The human animal is capable of things so much greater than the ability to stop contaminating this vessel we are born with.

This poll proves one thing anyway; that non smokers are more motivated than are the smokers as regards voting on a smoking poll. Wonder if guilt has anything to do with that.

Big Dave

24th August 2005, 19:40

I don't smoke, but I still get hot...

Haven't smoked since the days of Mild 10s in the Seventh Form common room. That's some considerable period of time...

Shit! Radioactive isotopes have shorter half lives.

Big Dave

24th August 2005, 19:41

I don't smoke cigarettes - too dangerous.
Oh well - going for a ride now see yas

WINJA

24th August 2005, 20:57

I QUIT ALCOHOL FIRST THEN CIGARETTES, THE ONLY ADDICTION I CANT QUIT IS BIKES

froggyfrenchman

24th August 2005, 21:04

aaaah, the smooth taste of acrid smoke filling my lungs. Hav smoked since 14

k1w1nzl

24th August 2005, 21:12

..."Ride'n Down the Highway" :ride: :ride: :ride:

MadDuck

24th August 2005, 21:13

Hell yeah I smoke since 13 (brief respite while competing at sport)...what else ya going to do while you waiting for the other bikers to catch up....lmfao

Also have a tattoo and drink too much as you can tell from most of my responses on here but it dont make me a worser person - just smelly :motu:

nagaraya

25th August 2005, 00:12

oh the cash i could've saved from not smoking... could've gotten a 2005 gsxr250 hehehe... But seriously, for me i think it's just willpower plus the company you keep. If you hang around smokers all the time then the temptation just keeps building. I quit for about 3 months but unfortunately most of my friends were smokers. Couldn't resist the temptation... But as Navy Gixxer said:

If some one has never smoked, they cant understand how hard it is to stop, for a packet a day smoker they cant understand why someone wants to give up. I'm a smoker thats in the process of giving up and after 15 years it's not easy.

mstriumph

25th August 2005, 00:45

Have nothing against smokers; I've smoked.

I reckon that what people want to do with their own plumbing is their own affair.

What stopped my 'habit', cold turkey, was calculating what the government tax 'take' was per pack & deciding i was already paying enough tax i COULDn't avoid ... without volunteering to pay more. That and my not liking anything to be in control of me except me.

I still find pleasure in the occasional decent duty-free cigar - but it isn't something i have to have.

The thing that really DISGUSTS me is governments raking in the tax on these things with one hand and, with the other distributing shock adverts spouting mealy-mouthed platitudes about how AWFUL it is and doing their best to turn smokers into despised fringe-dwellers.

Excuse me - smoking is legal. As such, fairness demands that smokers receive the same rights and considerations as everybody else. If governments aren't prepared to promote that - offer free quit counselling, patches and suchlike, then make it illegal like other drugs [but realise that you will also have to outlaw your other cash cows, booze and gambling]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh - i'm ranting, arn't i? :o sorry.

scumdog

25th August 2005, 00:53

How come it's dumb-fuck females that are the main smokers.
Has ANYBODY ever found that smoking cigarettes enhances their looks/longevity/bank acount etc????
And what dick-whack ever thought that smokes 'improved' his chances of 'procreatin'.
All losers smoke- but not all smokers are losers!!!!!

Gremlin

25th August 2005, 02:02

Choice has nothing to do with it. Nobody chooses to become a smoker. Nicotine addiction is the only reason people inhale the toxic fumes. The fear and suffering of "giving up" is all that keeps them going. Choice doesn't come into it.
Sorry, going to disagree. You CHOOSE to light that cigarette, you CHOOSE to put it in your mouth and suck in the smoke. Nobody ever forced you to do that.

That said, I'm a non-smoker and completely against smoking. Those ads put me off and I have never considered taking a puff...

I might be missing some things having not "been there, done that", but life is always about choices.

mstriumph

25th August 2005, 02:21

you referin to me, friend?
How come it's dumb-fuck females that are the main smokers.
Has ANYBODY ever found that smoking cigarettes enhances their looks/longevity/bank acount etc????
And what dick-whack ever thought that smokes 'improved' his chances of 'procreatin'.
All losers smoke- but not all smokers are losers!!!!!

Beemer

25th August 2005, 10:07

I'm the only one in my family who has never even tried smoking! My brother has given up now, but the rest of the family still smokes. No one in my husband's family smokes and neither does he. My eldest sister is only 14 years older than me but at my wedding this year, someone mistook her for my mother! The women all get those horrible deep lines around their mouth and it really does look revolting - ugh!

I figured if I hated the smell, it wasn't likely I was going to like the taste, so I never bothered trying. My mother and my brother bought one of those quit smoking hypnotism tapes and I sat there while they were playing it. I fell asleep and have never had any desire to smoke, while they smoked all through it and my mother is still smoking today!

When in the third or fourth form at school, we had a visit from some health speaker who brought along two lungs in jars. The diseased lung of a smoker was put on my desk. That helped put me off, it was disgusting!

I love the new anti-smoking laws - I used to hate going out for dinner and having someone light up while I was eating. I much prefer going to pubs now too, because I don't have to come home and wash my hair to get rid of the smell of smoke.

Eurygnomes

25th August 2005, 11:51

I like the fact that I can go out and not have to put all of my clothes in the laundry immediately upon my return home (otherwise they made the room smell). I like being able to eat without the smell of smoke.

I'm an ex-smoker (I guess) who picks it up and puts it down from time to time. Recently started having puffs of friends cigarettes again, but a bout of flu got rid of any desires along those lines. Will occasionally fall mouthfirst onto a the filter end of a lit cigarette while out - but have to be really influenced by alcohol.

The cost of cigarettes is so high here. When I first smoked (13 - in the Middle East) you could get a pack of Marlboro Light 100's for NZ$2. No wonder all us kids did it. I hate living in a house with a smoker - unless they've already decided to smoke outside. (and I notice that many have made that decision).

Yay to the people who've given up - it DOES take willpower if you're addicted. Fortunately, I never was. Just orally obsessed...:rofl:

Sniper

25th August 2005, 12:10

Never have, never will, bad habit, end of story

idb

25th August 2005, 12:50

Stuff Helen Clark and her smoke/anti freedom/Nazis but I have to admit I enjoy the result of their obsession. :hitcher: Damn It. John.
Yep...it's a dilemma all right.

BLACKYOSHI1000

20th September 2005, 08:17

:ar15: you guys are a dieing breed :weird:
besides hard to :ride: with a smoke in ya helmet :doh:
:nya:

Cibby

20th September 2005, 08:33

:ar15: you guys are a dieing breed :weird:
besides hard to :ride: with a smoke in ya helmet :doh:
:nya:

so true, i was just about to say that dammit! :angry2:

Sparky Bills

20th September 2005, 08:44

Bloody smokers :mad:

Why not, next time youwant a fag, you stick you finger up your bum. You'd soon quit after a bit of that. (unless you like tha sort of thing)

Sniper

20th September 2005, 08:58

Good on ya Sparky.

John

20th September 2005, 09:11

is there anything you poofs DONT cry about?

Pancakes

20th September 2005, 09:51

http://www.thetruth.com/index.cfm?seek=truth

Sniper

20th September 2005, 09:52

is there anything you poofs DONT cry about?

KNowing we are better than ZXR-C Riders

Waylander

20th September 2005, 11:22

:ar15: you guys are a dieing breed :weird:
besides hard to :ride: with a smoke in ya helmet :doh:
:nya:
That's what open faced helmets are for. Duh.

placidfemme

20th September 2005, 11:24

KNowing we are better than ZXR-C Riders

ehhh.... um...

*no comment*

John

20th September 2005, 11:31

KNowing we are better than ZXR-C Riders
you can dream, just remember they dont come true

myvice

20th September 2005, 21:05

Have a $50 a week savings account that I refer to as my cigarette money.
Mate of mine quit when I pointed out that he was spending more on smokes in a week than bike repayments would be... He now owns a GSXR 750, but can’t afford cigarettes!
Let see, $50 per week is $200 a month so that’s $2,400 a year... What’s the deposit on a new bike? Bout 20%? One I want is about $14k new so 20% is $2,800, and I have the Bandit as a trade in.
Blue I think, a nice new (ex-demo?) blue Kawasaki Z750.
So a pack is $10, and you go through a pack a day... $3,650 a year!
Its so hard being a smug basted, somehow I find the time!

SARGE

20th September 2005, 23:43

That's what open faced helmets are for. Duh.

no Way.. thats what 10mm drillbits are for

strayjuliet

21st September 2005, 12:38

Gee, pick the non smokers in this thread. (They're the ones going on about how bad it is for us.) Well, yes, I smoke and as far as I'm concerned, I gotta die of something, so why not?

SlowHand

21st September 2005, 14:33

I started about a weeks ago - only a packet and a half so far. gone a few days without etc. I wasnt that fit to start with, but now i struggle to breath normally just sitting not doing anything. I might have slight case of asthma from smokes and hay fever.

Calms me down, feel filthy afterwards, but I like the taste, and like the after smell. I LOVE cigars - got a bunch of cheap phillipino ones $2each but still quite nice. Have had better cubans. Cigars take too long to smoke, and ciggys fill that gap. mind you, when i sit down for a cigar, that finishes and the ciggys come out - I still cant figure out if im addicted or not.

Gona have to get some port for the weekend. mmm cigar and port...

scumdog

21st September 2005, 14:38

Well, yes, I smoke and as far as I'm concerned, I gotta die of something, so why not?

I'm right with you, when I play Russian roulette I tell the others that too!!!

strayjuliet

21st September 2005, 14:47

EVERY smoker wishes he never started. No smoker recommends his kids get hooked on nicotine. No smoker will give Alllen Carr a year's tobacco money upfront so he can make good his pledge to supply them with free tobacco for the rest of their life.
Every smoker wishes to no longer be a smoker but either can't face the mythical withdrawal pangs ( actually the anguish of wanting something and not being allowed it ) or kids himself he is better off leaving it to the right time to quit, which never comes.

As a smoker I disagree with you in this post, in fact I dont want to quit. I think maybe, just maybe, you are a bit off topic, as this thread was started by John asking a question, not asking for a rant on smoking and how bad it is for you.

Ixion

21st September 2005, 15:28

..

Gona have to get some port for the weekend. mmm cigar and port...

/meh. that's cruelty to good port. The cigar will kill your taste buds, you won't appreicate the port. Give it to me instead, and I'll give you a bottle of rot gut plonk. 'Twill taste the same after the cigar.

SlowHand

21st September 2005, 18:14

Bah! Only if you give me an alternative. Beers horrible with cigar. What port do you drink? Ive been getting into some Mazurans lately...

What was this post about?

cowpoos

21st September 2005, 21:56

I only smoke after sex.. yeah baby, yeah!!! :yeah:

If your smoking after sex your doing it to fast...

cowpoos

21st September 2005, 22:00

yep...I'm a smoker.

and I don't give two shits about what people think about it....but I don't force it on people or light up if its gunna get in their face...

Juan

21st September 2005, 22:05

Na, tried it at about 15... yuk.... pisses me off coming home from the pub stinking of smoke, but guess that don't hapen over there, how is the ban going by the way?

SPORK

21st September 2005, 22:14

cowpoos

21st September 2005, 23:15

Ew, working at a supermarket now, I can easily tell the smokkokkers, well, the older ones. Wait, I can pretty much tell anyone now if they smoke. The older smokers look all crusty and trashy, and the younger ones look like slobbers.

No offence to smokers, btw?

are u stupid...if your workin at a supermarket....you could proablly tell whos a smoker and whos not....because they will be buying cig's off you...lol

How long have you been a check out chick for?

Ixion

21st September 2005, 23:32

Bah! Only if you give me an alternative. Beers horrible with cigar. What port do you drink? Ive been getting into some Mazurans lately...

What was this post about?

Yes Mazurans for me also. Their Special Reserve at the moment.

SPORK

22nd September 2005, 17:01

are u stupid...if your workin at a supermarket....you could proablly tell whos a smoker and whos not....because they will be buying cig's off you...lol

How long have you been a check out chick for?
FUCK!?!?! (in teh wise words of John)

No, my point was that I can tell who WILL buy ciggarettes. Read the post first, then abuse me.

PS: For the record, I prefer the term "Bag Boy". Also, about 2 1/2 months?

cowpoos

23rd September 2005, 13:47

FUCK!?!?! (in teh wise words of John)

No, my point was that I can tell who WILL buy ciggarettes. Read the post first, then abuse me.

PS: For the record, I prefer the term "Bag Boy". Also, about 2 1/2 months?

Ha ha....bag boy...I like that....lol

strayjuliet

23rd September 2005, 15:15

Na, tried it at about 15... yuk.... pisses me off coming home from the pub stinking of smoke, but guess that don't hapen over there, how is the ban going by the way?

As far as I can tell the ban is going ok, apart from the teenyboppers going on about drinks being spiked, so thats why you finish ya drink first then go out. :blink: