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FROSTY
23rd April 2010, 10:11
Whilst out at the last trackday at Pukekohe I got to wondering what would happen if the track was run backwards.
In my head I could see how castrol corner could easilly be moved inwards a bit so a big sandtrap could be put in there.It looked like the exit to ford hill could then have a sandtrap put in.
The "kink" in the back straight would be 500m down it and could be emphasised so ever the superbike guys wouldn't be at terminal velocity. That would shorten the back straight quite a bit.
-Probably a silly idea but heck ya never know

javawocky
23rd April 2010, 10:13
Then we can recycle all our old tyres worn out on the right hand side =)

scott411
23rd April 2010, 10:44
no run off at castrol, or over the hill into what would be turn 1, and there is not much run off at the pit entrance and that would be pretty quick as well,

i have always thought a bus stop type chicane would be good at pukekohe at the kink, sort of like what is at the final corner of Spa,

Shaun
23rd April 2010, 11:11
no run off at castrol, or over the hill into what would be turn 1, and there is not much run off at the pit entrance and that would be pretty quick as well,

i have always thought a bus stop type chicane would be good at pukekohe at the kink, sort of like what is at the final corner of Spa,




Ask FROSTY mate, this does not matter when you ride the track slow!!!!

codgyoleracer
23rd April 2010, 11:13
I have ridden it backwards, the end of the back straight (backwards) was pretty intimidating..........., the rest of it wasnt to bad but coming onto the front straight backwards was also rather dodgy

FROSTY
23rd April 2010, 13:26
no run off at castrol, or over the hill into what would be turn 1, and there is not much run off at the pit entrance and that would be pretty quick as well,

i have always thought a bus stop type chicane would be good at pukekohe at the kink, sort of like what is at the final corner of Spa,
the kink is already there if we wanted to use it. I'm thinking to move castrol in a fraction. and lay sand on the exit of the hill-where theres room

steveyb
23rd April 2010, 17:02
I have ridden it backwards, the end of the back straight (backwards) was pretty intimidating..........., the rest of it wasnt to bad but coming onto the front straight backwards was also rather dodgy

I hope you had big mirrors to see where you were going.
Did you have rear or front wheel steer?

p.dath
23rd April 2010, 17:43
So this would be done before of after the horse club bull doze the track? I think the clock is ticking slowly.

FROSTY
23rd April 2010, 18:43
So this would be done before of after the horse club bull doze the track? I think the clock is ticking slowly.
Actually dude you would have been right a few years back. But since the recession the horsey people have woken up to the fact that motorsport /motor training contributes a substantial chunk of money to their coffers. Im lucky enough to have a freind who was heavilly involved in all the politics of the place.She was the fly on the wall when the horsey types looked at their books about 3 years back. at a conservative estimate we contribute $750000 a year to them

scott411
24th April 2010, 09:49
Actually dude you would have been right a few years back. But since the recession the horsey people have woken up to the fact that motorsport /motor training contributes a substantial chunk of money to their coffers. Im lucky enough to have a freind who was heavilly involved in all the politics of the place.She was the fly on the wall when the horsey types looked at their books about 3 years back. at a conservative estimate we contribute $750000 a year to them

a substantial chunk is not really that correct, the truth is the Motorsport income keeps it afloat, and although some of the Horse people want it gone, all the poeple in the management know they need it,

roadracingoldfart
24th April 2010, 21:05
Whilst out at the last trackday at Pukekohe I got to wondering what would happen if the track was run backwards.
In my head I could see how castrol corner could easilly be moved inwards a bit so a big sandtrap could be put in there.It looked like the exit to ford hill could then have a sandtrap put in.
The "kink" in the back straight would be 500m down it and could be emphasised so ever the superbike guys wouldn't be at terminal velocity. That would shorten the back straight quite a bit.
-Probably a silly idea but heck ya never know


Stuff Puke Frosty , push for Manfield long track backwards , that would be great.

FROSTY
3rd May 2010, 12:15
Stuff Puke Frosty , push for Manfield long track backwards , that would be great.

Kinda a long way from here dude :-)

White trash
3rd May 2010, 14:46
Stuff Puke Frosty , push for Manfield long track backwards , that would be great.

Done it. Out-fucking-standing, in a nutshell.

Kiwi Graham
3rd May 2010, 14:48
I heard the other day that Hampton Downs was designed to run the other way, dont know how true that is.
It would be interesting to run circuits in the opposit direction, I'd be keen.

javawocky
3rd May 2010, 16:17
I heard the other day that Hampton Downs was designed to run the other way, dont know how true that is.
It would be interesting to run circuits in the opposit direction, I'd be keen.

Imaging coming up the from the hairpin going over the hump with your wheel flapping in the breeze-

Turn 1 (current) would be interesting, not sure I want to go down the bump on the main straight at speed.

FROSTY
3rd May 2010, 18:30
this is what I Had in mind--wouldn't cost a lot I shouldnt think--sorry m no artist.
Theres also room to put more corners at jennian end

javawocky
4th May 2010, 14:35
lol 'Hell Curve'

Cleve
4th May 2010, 14:48
lol 'Hell Curve'

Shell curve with the S missing ??!!... anyway I think are railway lines and horse racing tracks too close either side to make that possible. Plus Frosty I think you have your directional arrows running the conventionall way...

Ivan
4th May 2010, 18:56
plus they are shutting the place aint they?

FROSTY
5th May 2010, 09:42
anyway I think are railway lines and horse racing tracks too close either side to make that possible.
Nope mate at that spot there was a few years back a chicane put about right there. (I could be out 100m either way) so its possible to use it. For that matter the exit curve could be exaggerated so you need to come back over to the left then back right which would shorten the straight even more -increasing the corners and decreasing terminal velocity at "castrol" . Castrol would need to be moved so its outside edge was the existing inside edge and a sandtrap put there-Mind you what would be really cool would be to "higginsify" it --Make castrol banked like higgins is.

Shaun
5th May 2010, 10:39
Nope mate at that spot there was a few years back a chicane put about right there. (I could be out 100m either way) so its possible to use it. For that matter the exit curve could be exaggerated so you need to come back over to the left then back right which would shorten the straight even more -increasing the corners and decreasing terminal velocity at "castrol" . Castrol would need to be moved so its outside edge was the existing inside edge and a sandtrap put there-Mind you what would be really cool would be to "higginsify" it --Make castrol banked like higgins is.



Perhaps it is about time you started talking to the owners of the race track mate

FROSTY
5th May 2010, 11:58
Perhaps it is about time you started talking to the owners of the race track mate
actually not a silly idea. Worst they can say is "f%% offf"

Shaun
5th May 2010, 12:04
actually not a silly idea. Worst they can say is "f%% offf"


Use Hampton D as a sign of customer base, if they agreed to modify it and make it safer!

FROSTY
5th May 2010, 12:35
yep --well I know for FACT one track day organisation that WOULD move their operation north if the track was made safer.

Shaun
8th May 2010, 11:05
yep --well I know for FACT one track day organisation that WOULD move their operation north if the track was made safer.



HD is way over the Top in pricing, you and I both know that, and the novelty of track day riders from up NTH will run out soon.

Puke needs to make the safety changes, and they will be Quids in

I agree re the one track day company focusing on there, if changes are made, and this revinue alone will more than cover the safety changes costings, and give them more profit/turn over in a 12 month period

JayRacer37
8th May 2010, 16:31
Puke reverse would be mint. You could move turn one into that big run off zone also, so you would slow the front straight and not have to move the stand for run off. The Hill would be even faster and more dangerous though.

FROSTY
8th May 2010, 17:16
Puke reverse would be mint. You could move turn one into that big run off zone also, so you would slow the front straight and not have to move the stand for run off. The Hill would be even faster and more dangerous though.
I figure with the hill it could have actual sandtraps at last

JayRacer37
8th May 2010, 17:23
I figure with the hill it could have actual sandtraps at last

Extend the wall up to the boundry fence, and then use that area for run off? As there is still only around 5 meters of grass before the wall, and you would be moving quicker, a sandtrap that size wouldn't slow you much.

Kickaha
8th May 2010, 17:31
I figure with the hill it could have actual sandtraps at last

Are you sure there is room to put them in?

Who owns the land off the end of the back of the straight, will it be obtainable to put in runoff in at Castrol

Ditch Hell curve, the only good thing at Puke is the long haul down the back