MOTOGP - Race 2

[cmoore]

MOTOGPO - Qualifying - Sat 11:55pm - 1:15am - SKY Sport 3

MOTOGP Race - Sun - 8:45pm - 1:30am - SKY Sport 3

just remember they changed it to SKY Sport 2 last time....

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[roogazza]

MOTOGPO - Qualifying - Sat 11:55pm - 1:15am - SKY Sport 3

MOTOGP Race - Sun - 8:45pm - 1:30am - SKY Sport 3

just remember they changed it to SKY Sport 2 last time....

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Thanks Cmoore , Qualifying seems to an added bonus this year ? G.

[cmoore]

yeah and I thought it was great.....seeing them try and beat each other for pole....thanks SKY!!

[pritch]

I did send a message to SKY telling them thanks for the qualifying coverage. It doesn't hurt to encourage them...

Sometimes qualifying can get really interesting in the closing stages, especially if one of the top riders has an oops and is running out of time to get his hot lap in.
Like Rossi in Phillip Island in 2008. Having crashed on what would have been his hot lap he only barely had time to ride around the track to get to the start and then complete one lap. No communing with the bike through the foot peg, no tugging leather out of his bum, he went out of the pits as if he'd been fired out of a gun. The commentary was covering it and it was real nail biting stuff.

[Movistar]

Thanks Cmoore , Qualifying seems to an added bonus this year ? G.

One day it'll be like Formula 1 and we'll see all the practices too... :corn:

Wasn't it Rossi, Pedrosa, Stoner last year? Horhay had an off near the end and Randy the Punyone was fourth (?) and I think Melandri did an ok job too...

[cmoore]

yeah, maybe if we said thanks a few more times rather then just moaning or whatever when it doesn't happen.....I think getting both the superbikes and the MotoGP is worth the price of sky...........my only little grizle is trying to find the racing sometimes....it gets moved around channels...

[denill]

I did send a message to SKY telling them thanks for the qualifying coverage. It doesn't hurt to encourage them...

Sometimes qualifying can get really interesting in the closing stages, especially if one of the top riders has an oops and is running out of time to get his hot lap in.
Like Rossi in Phillip Island in 2008. Having crashed on what would have been his hot lap he only barely had time to ride around the track to get to the start and then complete one lap. No communing with the bike through the foot peg, no tugging leather out of his bum, he went out of the pits as if he'd been fired out of a gun. The commentary was covering it and it was real nail biting stuff.

Yeah, you're right Pritch. So I got off my arse (well figuratively speaking) and sent them the message below.

But it is great to see the qualifying unfold and that has added a new dimension.

Hey, I am VERY impressed.

There was a time when SKY were hesitating to buy and show motorcycle sport and I was seriously contemplating cancelling my SKY subscription.

Now - we have not only great coverage of races - but there is now the bonus of MotoGP qualifying. It has been soooo good that I have installed MySKY

Thank you.
Bill

[Kendog]

Is the MotoGP in HD on sky?

[Thaeos]

Is the MotoGP in HD on sky?

On the mysky planner it shows it's on sky sport 3 which isn't HD.. unlike 1 and 2.

[Movistar]

Is the MotoGP in HD on sky?

Not yet, but there is talk of this happening hopefully later in the season. There's quite an investment to make to record/broadcast in HD I believe - but very well worth it for the punters (well those with MySky, which isn't me - yet!)

[pritch]

(well those with MySky, which isn't me - yet!)

Do it Doug, you know you want to... :devil2:

[Duke girl]

Does anyone know whether they will run the Japan Round that was suppose to be run last weekend but was called off due to the Volcano Eruption at the end of the Season?.

[Movistar]

Does anyone know whether they will run the Japan Round that was suppose to be run last weekend but was called off due to the Volcano Eruption at the end of the Season?.

3 October

You asked for it...http://tinyurl.com/27z8q7s

[Movistar]

Do it Doug, you know you want to... :devil2:

I know I want to, it's just a matter of convincing myself that I want to outlay the extra dosh just for HD (already have a HDD recorder).

[denill]

Help. Was it just me????

Switched on TV to enjoy the luxury of watching the Jerez qualifying - and I get the message on MySKY 'FAILED'!

[blackdog]

Help. Was it just me????

Switched on TV to enjoy the luxury of watching the Jerez qualifying - and I get the message on MySKY 'FAILED'!

telstra's cable worked just fine :)

[Kendog]

telstra's cable worked just fine :)
Same, love the cable goodness.

[NZsarge]

Help. Was it just me????

Switched on TV to enjoy the luxury of watching the Jerez qualifying - and I get the message on MySKY 'FAILED'!

My... errmm MySky recorded it just fine, might be an issue with your unit. My first MySky was a bucket-o-shite but I had a taste of how good MySky was if they ran properly, fortunately I got it replaced free of charge as they are supposed to do (the previous one was about 3 years old) and the new unit thus far has been reasonably glitch free.

[Robert Taylor]

yeah, maybe if we said thanks a few more times rather then just moaning or whatever when it doesn't happen.....I think getting both the superbikes and the MotoGP is worth the price of sky...........my only little grizle is trying to find the racing sometimes....it gets moved around channels...

Thats not cricket! And its because its not bloody cricket.

[Cleve]

Didn't see it in Moto2 qualifying in but in Moto2 FP 1 on Friday the young Colombian Yonny Hernandez was just spectacular. Only his 2nd season of ROAD racing. He is ex super motard and it shows!! Drifting it long and wide into most corners.

[pritch]

Help. Was it just me????

Switched on TV to enjoy the luxury of watching the Jerez qualifying - and I get the message on MySKY 'FAILED'!

Mine was OK. I watched it when I got home from Movistar's breakfast ride to Whangamomona.

[Movistar]

Mine was OK. I watched it when I got home from Movistar's breakfast ride to Whangamomona.

It was more like brunch, Pritch.

I too watched it this afternoon, Pedrosa's pole qualifying lap was pretty to watch.

Any predictions?

I'll say:

1st) Pedrosa
2nd) Lorenzo
3rd) Rossi

[Crasherfromwayback]

Lorenzo

Stoner

Rossi

[blackdog]

lorenzo

pedrosa

hayden

stoner to crash out again and i reckon rossi's too sore and can't get the grip he wants

[blackdog]

I'll say:

1st) Pedrosa
2nd) Lorenzo
3rd) Rossi

shall we split the honours? (my quinella and your boxed trifecta :))

hayden 4th and i reckon is looking just a bit fresher than stoner at the mo....

that last lap could easily have been disastrous!

[LBD]

Well I have just watched the race and I will not spill the beans cause last time someone got up set and red blinged me.....But what I will say...Stoner actually finished the race rubber side down at the end.....surprise surprise.

He has been making it hard to support him in the last 10 months....

[roogazza]

It was more like brunch, Pritch.

I too watched it this afternoon, Pedrosa's pole qualifying lap was pretty to watch.

Any predictions?

I'll say:

1st) Pedrosa
2nd) Lorenzo
3rd) Rossi

That was an educated guess, oh so close , you get the prize !
If any young racers ever wonder what racing used to be like, just watch Moto2. Evenly matched engines leaving it all to the rider talent. Production engine racing at its best. G.

[Movistar]

That was an educated guess, oh so close , you get the prize !
If any young racers ever wonder what racing used to be like, just watch Moto2. Evenly matched engines leaving it all to the rider talent. Production engine racing at its best. G.

That Moto2 is somewhat spectacular. I'd say it's only going to get better (if that's possible!) as the season goes on.

I thought the American with the indecisive name (No-yes) was doing an immense job at the front end, as well as the young Japanese rider.

Very well worth a watch!

[Crasherfromwayback]

That was an educated guess, oh so close , you get the prize !
If any young racers ever wonder what racing used to be like, just watch Moto2. Evenly matched engines leaving it all to the rider talent. Production engine racing at its best. G.

I got 1st and 3rd correct!

[blackdog]

I got 1st and 3rd correct!

lol yup, we were all there or there abouts

on an unrelated note, i see you guys have a cagiva navigator in at mo. who makes the engine for it?

[roogazza]

I got 1st and 3rd correct!
You did too, see Stoner in the dirt trying his best to get up to Hayden ?
Just reading a book where it mentioned Adriana was 14 when she met Stoner, she must be a young thing huh ? Mmmmmmmm ! G. (oh the book, 'Ring of Fire', recommend it !)

[Crasherfromwayback]

lol yup, we were all there or there abouts

on an unrelated note, i see you guys have a cagiva navigator in at mo. who makes the engine for it?

It's a Suzuki TL1000 donk

[blackdog]

It's a Suzuki TL1000 donk

sweet i thought it might be. ill try and pop in later in the week

cheers mate

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah feel free to come in and take it for a blast!

[puddytat]

That was some pretty amazing racing!! The Moto 2 race was fantastic ,one of the most exciting Ive seen, especially while that Noyes fella was up the front...
The 8 hundies were good too, but the 6hundies were o for oarsome!!

[Movistar]

Just reading a book where it mentioned Adriana was 14 when she met Stoner, she must be a young thing huh ? Mmmmmmmm ! G. (oh the book, 'Ring of Fire', recommend it !)

And she still looks 14 some days, certainly one of the hottest Brolly Dollies around...I liked the little bit of midriff she was showing on the grid...

Wonder who forgot to bolt on Marc Marquez's muffler in the 125 race, that was certainly a :gob: moment for the rider!

[Duke girl]

What an Awesome skilled peice of riding by Lorenzo. That was 1 Awesome Race to watch and you have to feel for Pedrosa who thought he had it in the bag with the lead he had. I guess its not over until the Fat Lady Sings as they say. Bring on the next Round.

[Ivan]

any of the moto2 haters must be impressed by the awsome close racing how amny leader changes was that????
Love how they are all so identical in power and speed id watch out for Luthi he;'s only going to get better

[Crasherfromwayback]

any of the moto2 haters must be impressed by the awsome close racing how amny leader changes was that????
Love how they are all so identical in power and speed id watch out for Luthi he;'s only going to get better

I thought it was great. But no different to watching WSS. Still prefer 250 two strokes!

[Ivan]

If the season stays the same as it has begun then its going to be a impressive season

Shame Ant West didnt get up there like I thought he would, Also Keep an eye on Scott Redding coming from 27th up to 13th not bad at all

[denill]

The Moto 2 race was fantastic ,one of the most exciting Ive seen, especially while that Noyes fella was up the front...

Yeah, clooooose racing indeed and Noyes was remarkable. Pity he's so old, at 31. :shifty:

[carbonhed]

That was mega. Hard not to think he's the next world champ. Fast and hard. The kid's got it all.

[lukemillar]

That was some pretty amazing racing!! The Moto 2 race was fantastic ,one of the most exciting Ive seen, especially while that Noyes fella was up the front...
The 8 hundies were good too, but the 6hundies were o for oarsome!!

Moto2's were fantastic - huge field, extremely close racing - just awesome!

[cmoore]

can anyone explain why lorenzo would be able to catch up such a big gap.....it seems incredible that he was so far back....did he save his tyres?....did pedrosa lose his??...

[roogazza]

can anyone explain why lorenzo would be able to catch up such a big gap.....it seems incredible that he was so far back....did he save his tyres?....did pedrosa lose his??...
Maybe just too good ? Rossis' biggest headache again this year?

[discodan]

Wonder who forgot to bolt on Marc Marquez's muffler in the 125 race, that was certainly a :gob: moment for the rider!

Yea poor bugger. What was irritating though was that none of the comentators picked up on it even after about 5 replays! They also couldn't see why Cortese was dropping back through the field when the arse end of his bike had colapsed and it looked like he was riding a cruiser.

[roogazza]

Yea poor bugger. What was irritating though was that none of the comentators picked up on it even after about 5 replays! They also couldn't see why Cortese was dropping back through the field when the arse end of his bike had colapsed and it looked like he was riding a cruiser.
Yeah Disco, I even picked that, those fucken pom flappers were too busy admiring bradley smith, I counted them flapping 6 times in the first lap about where Smith was. ( He was lucky to finish where he did.) There was another pom kid , Redding I believe. We heard lots about him coming from way back till he jumped off. As you can guess, the commentators give me the wick ! Cortese was looking good in the top 4 and it wasn't hard to see where the problem was. G.

[Cleve]

I thought it was great. But no different to watching WSS. Still prefer 250 two strokes!

There are 19 riders in WSS of varying talents and only 3 at the front. Moto2 has 42 riders and 20 who have won a GP. There is NO comparison.

[Crasherfromwayback]

There are 19 riders in WSS of varying talents and only 3 at the front. Moto2 has 42 riders and 20 who have won a GP. There is NO comparison.

Funny how a guy that's come from a ss back round can cut it amongst them then...

[discodan]

Funny how a guy that's come from a ss back round can cut it amongst them then...

Which is why I thought Cal Crutchlow should have taken a Moto2 ride instead of WSBK. Was he contracted to go to WSBK or something?

[Cleve]

Funny how a guy that's come from a ss back round can cut it amongst them then...

indeed this is the beauty of Moto2. Not only can the 125 and 250 guys race in it so can ex 600 ss, F Xtreme (I think that is Noyes background as well as dirt tracking - based on all the sliding going on) not to mention Yonny and his super motard background! Fantastic! I loved the 250's as well BUT we have moved on and the replacement class looks like a stroke of genius (no pun)...

[Crasherfromwayback]

indeed this is the beauty of Moto2. Not only can the 125 and 250 guys race in it so can ex 600 ss, F Xtreme (I think that is Noyes background as well as dirt tracking - based on all the sliding going on) not to mention Yonny and his super motard background! Fantastic! I loved the 250's as well BUT we have moved on and the replacement class looks like a stroke of genius (no pun)...

Yeah...Dirt Track. I will agree that the racing is great though. Just get all teary eyed not being able to watch them through the two stroke haze!

[denill]

Kenny's dad, Dennis wrote <a href=http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/motogp-noyes-notebook-msmas-cloudy-vision/P1>This:</A> on the direction of MotoGP.

[Cleve]

Kenny's dad, Dennis wrote <a href=http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/motogp-noyes-notebook-msmas-cloudy-vision/P1>This:</A> on the direction of MotoGP.

Not just the direction but an interesting history of SBK and MotoGP in the modern era as well.

[Cleve]

Kenny's dad, Dennis wrote <a href=http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/motogp-noyes-notebook-msmas-cloudy-vision/P1>This:</A> on the direction of MotoGP.

Not just the direction but an interesting history of SBK and MotoGP in the modern era as well.

[discodan]

can anyone explain why lorenzo would be able to catch up such a big gap.....it seems incredible that he was so far back....did he save his tyres?....did pedrosa lose his??...

All the bikes have software to manage the amount of fuel used during the race so that they never run out before the finish line... in theory.

Looking at the top speeds per lap here http://resources.motogp.com/files/results/xx/2010/SPA/MotoGP/RAC/Analysis.pdf?v1_8e3823b6
It seems that Jorge's bike was being conservative at the beginning of the race and then giving him more power towards the end - both he and Rossi posted their highest top speeds on the last lap.

Also, his crew chief said that he prefers the bike when it doesn't have a full tank of fuel.

[pritch]

Some brilliant racing all round. I was impressed by Luthi, he's hardly fired a shot since he won his 125 title.
Never mind the high corner speed and tidy lines of the 125 style, Luthi was sliding that thing into corners like a motard rider. I think perhaps he's been playing in the dirt?

Was especially pleased for Elias. He was really pissed off at being dropped from MotoGP when he had a better record than some who kept their jobs. If he could win the title that'd be a great "up yours".

[Crasherfromwayback]

I agree with the Elias bit. Shit...he's at least won a GP race. How the hell Edwards keep his job I'll never know.

[denill]

Was especially pleased for Elias. He was really pissed off at being dropped from MotoGP when he had a better record than some who kept their jobs. If he could win the title that'd be a great "up yours".

Toni Elias (born March 26, 1983 in Manresa,(Catalonia, Spain.

Yeah, he's young enough to make his way back to MotoGP. He's always been a fighter. Funny how his best results came at the end of a season though? But he showed that he 'could do it' on his day.

[Kendog]

I wasn't going to watch the Moto2 race. But after reading the reports here I decided to watch it last night.
Damn that was a good race.

[pritch]

Some hereabout seem unhappy with the commentators. Interestingly some on the Brit boards I watch don't much like some of the commentaries available to them either.

In Whitham's book "What A Good Do!" there is a photo of him and his co-commentator on the job for Eurosport. They haven't got a 40 or 50 inch screen TV such as we have at home. They are crammed in a booth that's bugger-all bigger than my shit house, there's very little window space, and their two monitors look to have about a 12" screen.

On that basis we should be seeing things they miss.

The visiting athletes at the LA Olympics were frustrated by the American coverage which consisted of an never-ending stream of medal ceremonies with USA winning gold.

The Pacific Islands that take our TV coverage of the Olympics and Commonwealth Games complain about the endless pictures of people in black singlets.

The excessive interest in Bradley Smith then is pretty much situation normal. Their comments about Scott Redding were of interest because they contained a positive mention of Pete Benson his crew chief who is a Kiwi.

I guess we can't lose them all?

[racerhead]

A few years ago when I was at home I was able to watch all qualifing sessions and races on eurosport with a very good team that could talk sh*t when needed and really knew their stuff once the racing started. The best coverage possible really. Then last year I started watching it here on sky sports which was good but not really the same level of coverage. And this year I decided to front up the euros and pay for the coverage on motogp.com and so far i cant fault it. Full coverage of practice, qualifing and races of all classes. The best part is no commentary for the practice so you can hear the motors and where they shut off and get back on.

[denill]

can anyone explain why lorenzo would be able to catch up such a big gap.....it seems incredible that he was so far back....did he save his tyres?....did pedrosa lose his??...

Do You <A HREF=http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/motogp-noyes-notebook-lorenzos-impossible-win/P1>REALLY Wanna Know??</A>

[Crasherfromwayback]

And if that's correct...even more of a reason to quit all of the fucking electronics! Leave them to the Superbikes man!!!

[wharfy]

A few years ago when I was at home I was able to watch all qualifing sessions and races on eurosport with a very good team that could talk sh*t when needed and really knew their stuff once the racing started. The best coverage possible really. Then last year I started watching it here on sky sports which was good but not really the same level of coverage. And this year I decided to front up the euros and pay for the coverage on motogp.com and so far i cant fault it. Full coverage of practice, qualifing and races of all classes. The best part is no commentary for the practice so you can hear the motors and where they shut off and get back on.

Me too - and it was a LOT of Euro's - but F%&K sky I say :)
and you can replay any and all of it

[karla]

Me too - and it was a LOT of Euro's - but F%&K sky I say :)
and you can replay any and all of it

I'm thinking about taking the plunge, but I'm not sure if my broadband will make the grade, can you download the clips and then play them, or is it only streamed live? I'd hate to fork out that dosh and find that the clips break up or stop and start all the way thru'. No point in me getting Sky 'cos this is the only thing I'd be watching.

[imdying]

And if that's correct...even more of a reason to quit all of the fucking electronics! Leave them to the Superbikes man!!!What cause one broke once? Sounds like a better reason to be rid of pistons or tyres... those break more often... or exhausts, didn't two of those fall of at round 2? That's double the failure rate, burn them!

[Crasherfromwayback]

I personally think the electronics have fucked GP racing. If the factories want to use racing to develop them...fine. But do it in Superbikes. After all...they're the bikes you and I will get to ride eventually.

[imdying]

Totally agree, and for that exact reason too, not cause it breaks down though man... shit breaks!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah I know only too well it does mate. Lost a few races because of it myself. BUT...having electronics that are that advanced that they lean your engine out...so you loose power is crap! Mind you...part of that problem is the silly fuel capacity rule. Fuck...carry 30 litres if you have to!

[onearmedbandit]

I believe the fuel tank restrictions are in place as a means of power control. Limit the fuel they've got, and you can limit the power without fitting restrictors/electronics/etc.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I believe the fuel tank restrictions are in place as a means of power control. Limit the fuel they've got, and you can limit the power without fitting restrictors/electronics/etc.

That's correct. But now they have systems that cut the fuel usage back when they're getting low...and that's shithouse! Having a bike running out of fuel is actually dangerous...and a bad idea.

[onearmedbandit]

Isn't the idea though by leaning the bike out it won't run out of fuel? The teams are always going to gamble on how much power they can get out of a set amount of fuel, and may actually use that in their tatics.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Correct. But who the hell wants to see a race fucked by bike 'a' not having enough and dropping power? Bike 'b' has more left and wins what could've/should've been a hell of a race? I sure as fuck don't want to see such things happening.

[onearmedbandit]

Oh I agree with you Pete. But who hasn't witnessed a race (be it 4 wheels or 2) where without electronics (other than monitoring systems) the rider/driver has backed off themselves to conserve fuel. Now, because the rules allow for it, they control that automatically.

Bring back the 500's from the late eighties to mid nineties I say. They were the best years of racing*. Angry snarling beasts of bikes with no wheelie control, launch control, traction control. It all came down to 'balls' control.

* - My opinion, I was too young to watch anything earlier pretty much

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah I've been to a few GP's where the 500's were still 'it', and I've gotta say...a better spectacle. Just watched the GP from Phillip Island in 1989 this morning actually...awesome! The 1000's were good...but the 800's are not doing it for me nearly as much. Bring back the sideways action!!!

[imdying]

Bring back the sideways action!!!Amen, Doohan and his screamer all the way.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Funny thing is (well actually...it's hardly surprising I guess), the riders all seem to want to ditch the electronic aids as well! The spectators want to seem them go. So if the Moto GP bosses had any balls they'd leave them to Superbikes and ban them!

[discodan]

Everyone hates the electronics. The problem is that the manufacturers have the power when it comes to making the rules. Dorna want to make the show better for the fans, while the manufacturers want to develope better technology to sell more bikes.

Infront have more control over the rules in WSBK and the Manufacturers have to make do (except for Ducheati) but MotoGP can't afford to piss off any of the manufacturers or there won't be any bikes on the grid.