Scooters passing bikes!

[Leseid]

A scooter this evening pulled up on the right hand side of me :scooter: as I was about to pull out of a give way intersection turning right to re pass me as I had passed it some while back safely on a uphill straight.

I honestly don't know what was going on in his or her head at the time, but if a motorbike passes you on a scooter don't take it personally. Don't try and re pass like it's a race, a bike can out perform a scooter in every aspect all you do is add to the worsening reputation of scooter riders.

Just enjoy your scooter for it other features it was designed for, otherwise just buy a real bike. Then again if your a scooter rider reading this your probably a passionate scooter rider who respects the bigger bikes and wouldn't do an act like the above.

Euan.

[mattian]

funny.... I see bikes doing that to cars all the time.

[Dave Lobster]

That's because they've got bigger dicks.

Scooter riders have obviously got smaller dicks. That's why we ride scooters. It's the law.

[schrodingers cat]

funny.... I see bikes doing that to cars all the time.

Thats quite a random thing you said there. How is a fish? When is a kayak?

Much as I love out little (dick) cousins, my only hope is that one day they graduate to bigger wheels. Until then they can all just fuck off. And stay out of my way.

[allycatz]

Maybe it wasn't a wee 50cc scooter.....some of the higher HP /cc and liquad cooled scooters are gutsier than you think

[mattian]

Thats quite a random thing you said there. How is a fish? When is a kayak?

Much as I love out little (dick) cousins, my only hope is that one day they graduate to bigger wheels. Until then they can all just fuck off. And stay out of my way.

I was making the comparison. Scooter filters up in front of a bike at a give way sign....... in much the same way someone on a bike will do it to a car. In fact I've done it myself several times. I don't do it as often now because, I know it pisses cagers off something chronic! to the point where some of them have deliberately tried to take me out ! (not the dating "take me out" the attempted murder "take me out")

[schrodingers cat]

I was making the comparison. Scooter filters up in front of a bike at a give way sign....... in much the same way someone on a bike will do it to a car. In fact I've done it myself several times. I don't do it as often now because, I know it pisses cagers off something chronic! to the point where some of them have deliberately tried to take me out ! (not the dating "take me out" the attempted murder "take me out")

Well you be extra careful. THe news is full of stories of people being taken out then TAKEN OUT. You might get away with date rape but I wouldn't risk it

[Genie]

I was making the comparison. Scooter filters up in front of a bike at a give way sign....... in much the same way someone on a bike will do it to a car. In fact I've done it myself several times. I don't do it as often now because, I know it pisses cagers off something chronic! to the point where some of them have deliberately tried to take me out ! (not the dating "take me out" the attempted murder "take me out")

what is with this mentality on our roads...geez some people need to go back to the sandpit and sort their shit. Far too much aggression on the roads and I'm guessing the bigger cities have it worse....take a breathe, smell the exhaust fumes and smile

[Leseid]

The scooter involved was a larger capacity scooter, not that it had anything to do with the situation. You would never get a motorcyclist do that to anther motorcyclist purely for safety reasons. Bikes do it to cars all the time but again it's nothing personal to the cars, we will be off and out of your way before you remember what you where day dreaming about before the bike came up beside you.

It's behaviour like this from scooter riders that divides motorcyclist into two groups, when politically in the current time we should be uniting.

Just quietly the person involved actually lives in my street and has most likely seen the L plates in the past on the bike, and assumed I wasn't as experience a rider as he or she is. Therefore felt it necessary to educate me on best riding practises.

[Dave Lobster]

I overtake bikes all the time when on a scooter. You'd be surprised how many are ridden by incompetent fools.

However, they're riding REAL bikes.. so maybe I should stay behind them, and let them lead me to enlightenment.. After all, their wheels are bigger, so they're fucking superior in every way.
Like fuck.


Therefore felt it necessary to educate me on best riding practises.

Much like your post then.

[DougB]

I am getting my yellow safety vest emblazend with the words "You have just been passed by a scooter"
But my 54 years riding would not let me be stupid as described in the first post.
In America they sell mazi scooter riders tee shirts with words like "You have just been passed by a girl on a scooter'
I am not sillly enough to ride my scooter over 100km/hr, or at any speed, with just a tee shirt on.

[CookMySock]

I honestly don't know what was going on in his or her head at the time, but if a motorbike passes you on a scooter don't take it personally. Don't try and re pass like it's a raceEr, it appears more like it was you taking it personally..

Steve

[Grubber]

A scooter this evening pulled up on the right hand side of me :scooter: as I was about to pull out of a give way intersection turning right to re pass me as I had passed it some while back safely on a uphill straight.

I honestly don't know what was going on in his or her head at the time, but if a motorbike passes you on a scooter don't take it personally. Don't try and re pass like it's a race, a bike can out perform a scooter in every aspect all you do is add to the worsening reputation of scooter riders.



Just enjoy your scooter for it other features it was designed for, otherwise just buy a real bike. Then again if your a scooter rider reading this your probably a passionate scooter rider who respects the bigger bikes and wouldn't do an act like the above.

Euan.

You could even be bothered to write this!
What the......
Who freakin cares about who passed who and who should get a "real" bike.
What is a "real" bike? what is a "real" car? What is a "real conversation topic?
Certainly nothing round here is a conversation topic.....

[Grubber]

The scooter involved was a larger capacity scooter, not that it had anything to do with the situation. You would never get a motorcyclist do that to anther motorcyclist purely for safety reasons. Bikes do it to cars all the time but again it's nothing personal to the cars, we will be off and out of your way before you remember what you where day dreaming about before the bike came up beside you.

It's behaviour like this from scooter riders that divides motorcyclist into two groups, when politically in the current time we should be uniting.

Just quietly the person involved actually lives in my street and has most likely seen the L plates in the past on the bike, and assumed I wasn't as experience a rider as he or she is. Therefore felt it necessary to educate me on best riding practises.

Oh my God.....you ride a friggin 250.....and you call that a bike? Please!

[Genie]

Oh my God.....you ride a friggin 250.....and you call that a bike? Please!

settle petal...i have a 250 and it is a bike...even a scooter is a bike...two wheels an' all and I have heard mention that those 3 wheeled things are referred to as 'bikes', though they be 'trikes'''and quads are also referrred to as bikes.....and my little trusty pedally one is a bike...do not judge a bike on the sizie of its engine.....size doesn't mater :lol:

[Grubber]

settle petal...i have a 250 and it is a bike...even a scooter is a bike...two wheels an' all and I have heard mention that those 3 wheeled things are referred to as 'bikes', though they be 'trikes'''and quads are also referrred to as bikes.....and my little trusty pedally one is a bike...do not judge a bike on the sizie of its engine.....size doesn't mater :lol:

Actually that was kinda my point in a sarcastic way.....
Not too keen on people who refer to a scooter as something less than what they own in a discriminatory fashion.
This fella rides round on a 250 (which most scooters are now days) and states that his is more a bike than their scooters are.
Damn Fool!
The whole thread seems such a waste of time to me.
If we all complained and labeled each and every vehicle that got in our way from time to time then this forum would be full.

[DangerMice]

just buy a real bike

Sweet! I have an imaginary scooter it seems. Does that mean I can use imaginary money to pay for the imaginary petrol, imaginary oil, imaginary rego and imaginary servicing? Woohoo, free riding here I come. :scooter:

[nodrog]

seems like somebodys pissy about getting the learn from a scooter.

[rie]

... You would never get a motorcyclist do that to anther motorcyclist purely for safety reasons...

oh dear.

bikers try to take me out all the time. penis anxieties abound in auckland.

[Ixion]

Don't try and re pass like it's a race, a bike can out perform a scooter in every aspect all you do is add to the worsening reputation of scooter riders.



Hm. CB250F. Versue Burgman 650. Maybe not, Cedric.

I didn't know that scooter riders had a worsening reputation, BTW.

[Spearfish]

Being a scooter rider all I can add to your life lesson is this Lesied...
Remember to toast both side of the bread when making cheese on toast. Its crap if its soggy!
Tomatoes seem to retain the heat and burn!
Onion is nice but antisocial.
Tuimato sauce under the cheese is nice but remember not to thick or it will burn ya...
Try some fruit, it not as yucky as it sounds...
Seriously tho, what are you going to do if it gets really dangerous and is genuinely personal when your out riding one day if you have hung onto this shyt?

[Thaeos]

I don't get it, what was the problem? He came up next to you at an intersection, ok?? Did he deliberatelty cut you off or actually do something dangerous, or did he just filter to the front which is where you happened to be as well?

[LBD]

A scooter this evening pulled up on the right hand side of me :scooter: as I was about to pull out of a give way intersection turning right to re pass me as I had passed it some while back safely on a uphill straight.

I honestly don't know what was going on in his or her head at the time, but if a motorbike passes you on a scooter don't take it personally. Don't try and re pass like it's a race, a bike can out perform a scooter in every aspect all you do is add to the worsening reputation of scooter riders.

Just enjoy your scooter for it other features it was designed for, otherwise just buy a real bike. Then again if your a scooter rider reading this your probably a passionate scooter rider who respects the bigger bikes and wouldn't do an act like the above.

Euan.

May be you should wave as you pass...

[Toaster]

Can everybody hear the waaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance or is it just me?

[Toaster]

So how is a 650cc scooter any less of a bike than a 250cc motorcycle?

You got passed, big deal. Just blame your shrinkage on the cold weather.

[bounce]

seems the dude just filtered to the front much the same as you did. easy solution, when two bikes (or whatevers) have ended up next to each other at the front, let the bike with the inside line for the corner go first (unless there is a major acceleration discrepancy). Surely it isn't a drag off the line but a way to beat 40 cars in traffic? who cares if a scooter dares pull up alongside, if he can get a nose ahead off the lights just let him go.

[carver]

scooters are gay, we proved it here

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[Rogue Rider]

Personally, and scooter riders, don't take this personally, I think nana scooters should be banned/ made illegal. They are very dangerous and inpractical. Here are my reasons for stating such a fact.

1. The smaller powered engines: are gutless and not able to deliver the power nec to ride on motorways or open roads, yet they do still venture onto them.
2. The ones that make it onto the main roads ride on the left edge, making themselves a target for shunting off the road by erratic impatient cagers. We all know motorcycles should ride in the right side of centre on the roads so as not to be taken for granted. This only works if you can ride at the speed limit though.
3. The performance of the bikes is very dismal bordering non existent. The little wheels don't corner, the bikes don't lean easily, and the tyres are very crap. Even the larger jap versions like the 650 suzuki still handle like a brick in comparison to a real bike. Even though the larger ones can do the open road limits they can't handle the roads.
4. Not only do they handle like shit, ride like shit, look like shit, sound like shit, and create one hua of a nuisance on the road..... those riders that ride them, along with there faggity arse lids and hi vis jackets, look incredibly GAY. Maybe they suit the frollicky homosexual image, perhaps some of them even are, thats no problem, good luck to them, BUT, even gaybo's don't deserve to be killed by cagers or dangers imposed by stupid arse scooters......

And and and and and, what with those bloody baskets on the front, I mean really, a basket?

[Rogue Rider]

So how is a 650cc scooter any less of a bike than a 250cc motorcycle?

You got passed, big deal. Just blame your shrinkage on the cold weather.

A 250 motorcycle is a motorcycle without question, a scooter, is a gay arse nana bike invented by a nob, the same nob who made mobility scooter, but don't get me started.......

I respect even motorcycle posties on CT110 honda's, they are Tu Meke.... love the flags.

[Spearfish]

Hows the scoot going carver?
you killed the new cylinder yet?

[carver]

Hows the scoot going carver?
you killed the new cylinder yet?

Nah, i went from a 75 - 80 jet.
Sold it to the GF, now the ex...
I tested it at the drags, the vid is on my FB account.
23 sec quarter at 88kph i think

[Taz]

A scooter this evening pulled up on the right hand side of me :scooter: as I was about to pull out of a give way intersection turning right to re pass me as I had passed it some while back safely on a uphill straight.
Euan.
someone got owned!!! :lol:

[DangerMice]

Personally blah blah blah a basket?

thanks for the laugh, haven't read a good troll in ages.

[carver]

thanks for the laugh, haven't read a good troll in ages.

Where can i get a wicker basket for a burgervan 650?

[Leseid]

It's just dawned on me what happened and why the scooter did what he did. The scooter was following me rather close for some time, I braked quite hard at the intersection to give way. Scooters don't brake as well as bikes and he dived down on the right hand side of me to avoid rear ending me. Because his braking looked rather loaded and on the limit as he came to a flustered stop on the right-hand side of me.

I would like for someone to argue with me about the fact bikes can out brake scooters, this would be most entertaining.

[Dare]

I was making the comparison. Scooter filters up in front of a bike at a give way sign....... in much the same way someone on a bike will do it to a car. In fact I've done it myself several times. I don't do it as often now because, I know it pisses cagers off something chronic! to the point where some of them have deliberately tried to take me out ! (not the dating "take me out" the attempted murder "take me out")
Dare say if I was sensible I wouldn't filter but a couple things do keep me out of trouble most of the time.
a) I get off the lights when they change and not 2 seconds later like most cage drivers and
b) I'm not slow about it. Having decent acceleration helps.

That being said on the occasion I have been (ahem) 'looking' and missed the lights by a second or two things sometimes get interesting. And the occasional car will tailgate me/pull up next to me no matter what I do because they didn't spend 50k+ on a car just to have a ratty two wheeler like mine have all the fun.

[Swoop]

Who rides the blue scooter on the NW motorway?
The guy doesn't hang around and filters at a fairly supersonic speed.

Quite a giggle.


what with those bloody baskets on the front, I mean really, a basket?
The handbag has to go somewhere...

[Katman]

I would like for someone to argue with me about the fact bikes can out brake scooters, this would be most entertaining.

You're just not worth the effort.

[UberRhys]

It's behaviour like this from scooter riders that divides motorcyclist into two groups, when politically in the current time we should be uniting.

hmmm... I thought it was posts like this that did that


Er, it appears more like it was you taking it personally..

Certainly does, maybe he doesn't have the testes to go down the street to discuss it with the involved


It's just dawned on me what happened and why the scooter did what he did. The scooter was following me rather close for some time, I braked quite hard at the intersection to give way. Scooters don't brake as well as bikes and he dived down on the right hand side of me to avoid rear ending me. Because his braking looked rather loaded and on the limit as he came to a flustered stop on the right-hand side of me.

I would like for someone to argue with me about the fact bikes can out brake scooters, this would be most entertaining

This is more skill based than the machine, but nice try trying to dig your way out of your hole of self pity and inability


You're just not worth the effort.

This is true, but sometimes you just can't help but chime in...

[Leseid]

This is more skill based than the machine, but nice try trying to dig your way out of your hole of self pity and inability


The if he or she should have known where their braking points are for their machine, before following a bike with different braking points. I don't understand how you can add self pity or inability into this discussion.

[UberRhys]

The if he or she should have known where their braking points are for their machine, before following a bike with different braking points. I don't understand how you can add self pity or inability into this discussion.

Just have a read of your posts and you will see...

[davereid]

It's just dawned on me what happened and why the scooter did what he did. The scooter was following me rather close for some time, I braked quite hard at the intersection to give way. Scooters don't brake as well as bikes and he dived down on the right hand side of me to avoid rear ending me. Because his braking looked rather loaded and on the limit as he came to a flustered stop on the right-hand side of me.

I would like for someone to argue with me about the fact bikes can out brake scooters, this would be most entertaining.

You're not even on a proper motorcycle, just a learners toy. How would you know what a motorcycle brakes like ?

[Pogo2]

and and and and and, what with those bloody baskets on the front, I mean really, a basket?

Easy question to answer...... because our balls are so big we need somewhere to store them!

[DangerMice]

Easy question to answer...... because our balls are so big we need somewhere to store them!

That's also the reason for the step-thru design.... :yes:

[Leseid]

You're not even on a proper motorcycle, just a learners toy. How would you know what a motorcycle brakes like ?

So when does a motorcycle become a proper motorcycle? Some would say a scooter would be a proper motorcycle.

[bogan]

So when does a motorcycle become a proper motorcycle? Some would say a scooter would be a proper motorcycle.

some would say its when the riders learn to park properly, turn up at massey yesterday and all the bikes were parked parralel with one another, and correct entry angles. Over half the scooters were rode in and parked willy nilly, yeh you heard me, I went there, willy nilly it was. Thats the sort of thing that you look at and go, yip there's obviously a division in riding styles and skill levels there.

[Laxi]

funny.... I see bikes doing that to cars all the time.

fair comment


A scooter this evening pulled up on the right hand side of me :scooter: as I was about to pull out of a give way intersection turning right to re pass me as I had passed it some while back safely on a uphill straight.


any scooter that can pass me or beat me off a give way stop, is welcome to their peice of road. usualy the only time sombody you passed , repasses you at lights or somthing, is if they accelerate hard then slow down at legal speed while you keep on going

[ICE180]

hell when a scooter passes a bike on the open road boy do some of them get a little peved

have had it a few times will go past a bike and next thing they will chop it down a few gears and fang past me
but what pisses them off even more is when you keep up with them on twisty bits

dont worry its the same for cars as well

I guess a scooter should not be aloud to go that fast.............

[bogan]

hell when a scooter passes a bike on the open road boy do some of them get a little peved

have had it a few times will go past a bike and next thing they will chop it down a few gears and fang past me
but what pisses them off even more is when you keep up with them on twisty bits

dont worry its the same for cars as well

I guess a scooter should not be aloud to go that fast.............

if you mean scooter as in the ones in moped class, they aint allowed to go that fast, theres a 50kmhr limit.

[Kornholio]

May be you should wave as you pass...

And for the love of God, was everyone wearing all their gear?

[Dave Lobster]

if you mean scooter as in the ones in moped class, they aint allowed to go that fast, theres a 50kmhr limit.

One would imagine he doesn't.

[Spearfish]

if you mean scooter as in the ones in moped class, they aint allowed to go that fast, theres a 50kmhr limit.

Your right, but its ok to go any speed if you wave.

[PrincessBandit]

Balu's burger is capable of sitting quite happily at 130 kph all day long, but that doesn't mean he does it.
Inconsiderate drivers/riders come from all backgrounds and modes of transport. I feel some "real" bike riders have been rude to me in the past, but I don't take it personally - they're just rude (in my opinion - in their own they're probably barely aware of my existence).

So it's really only an actual issue if what they're doing is unsafe, not whether you get your knickers in a twist over it.

[DMNTD]

I would like for someone to argue with me about the fact bikes can out brake scooters, this would be most entertaining.

At commuting speeds....not much in it if at all. :scooter:

[paulmac]

Fuck, do some of you people read the shit you post !!!

[ralph4alice]

Fuck, do some of you people read the shit you post !!!

ROFL!!! second that.



Inconsiderate drivers/riders come from all backgrounds and modes of transport.

...

...but I don't take it personally - they're just rude (in my opinion - in their own they're probably barely aware of my existence).

...

So it's really only an actual issue if what they're doing is unsafe, not whether you get your knickers in a twist over it.

Amen to that! This is so true. I assume that others are being deliberately rude or arsehole-ish ... but in fact they've probably hardly even noticed.

I thought the behaviour alluded to in the original post was just something about safety... but whatever.

Take some chill pills people! What are we actually arguing about?

I ride my scooter every day, commuting to work. It's 95% plain fun, 5% annoyance at other drivers' rudeness. But I cannot control others' behaviour - so I take care to keep my own house in order regarding my own behaviour to other road users... in short, I treat others how I'd like to be treated myself : with respect. Outside of that, I just go with the flow.

:Punk:

[Grubber]

All very amusing.

You fella's all know the story.

Scooters are like fat chicks......great fun to ride, just don't let ya mates catch you!

[Str8 Jacket]

. You would never get a motorcyclist do that to anther motorcyclist purely for safety reasons.

Some fluro wearing fucktard on a ZZR??? almost takes me out every second morning with his randomly aggresive riding. He obviously thinks he is some sort of hero!

[Mom]

I saw a scooter rider in the fast lane of the Auckland motorway, on the Khyber Pass flyover heading into town at peak hour yesterday morning. It was pissing down rain and the traffic was horrendous. He was overtaking a truck in the middle lane. Big balls :yes: Did not notice the size of his penis though.

[allycatz]

All very amusing.

You fella's all know the story.

Scooters are like fat chicks......great fun to ride, just don't let ya mates catch you!

Oi, Im a fat chick on a scooter, wash ya mouth out!!!!:angry:

[Dave Lobster]

Scooters are like fat chicks......great fun to ride, just don't let ya mates catch you!

But without the sweat under their tits :blink:

[Slunk]

I find it a bit strange that so many "real" motorcyclists find the time and motivation to post abuse in a scooter forum. I don't go to an mpv forum (do they exist?) and post about how i hate mpv's

On a side note, in Taiwan every set of traffic lights has a 5-6m box painted on the road at the front and all the scooterists, and motorcyclists filter through to the front. It's awesome. Plus they often have a digital countdown to when the lights go green.

And thank the lord you guys don't venture over there, all two wheeled motorised vehicles are called motorcycles !! even a humble nifty 50 OH THE HUMANITY!

[Str8 Jacket]

I find it a bit strange that so many "real" motorcyclists find the time and motivation to post

Welcome to KB.

[Grubber]

Oi, Im a fat chick on a scooter, wash ya mouth out!!!!:angry:

Hahahaha. Whoops sorry bout that!
Humblest apologies...:love:
didn't think anyne was watching...

[carver]

I find it a bit strange that so many "real" motorcyclists find the time and motivation to post abuse in a scooter forum. I don't go to an mpv forum (do they exist?) and post about how i hate mpv's

On a side note, in Taiwan every set of traffic lights has a 5-6m box painted on the road at the front and all the scooterists, and motorcyclists filter through to the front. It's awesome. Plus they often have a digital countdown to when the lights go green.

And thank the lord you guys don't venture over there, all two wheeled motorised vehicles are called motorcycles !! even a humble nifty 50 OH THE HUMANITY!

fuck off you scooter riding poof

[danchop]

they have a few digital countdown lights in central auckland,feels like im at the drags and i rev it up when it gets down to 2 seconds

[Spearfish]

they have a few digital countdown lights in central auckland,feels like im at the drags and i rev it up when it gets down to 2 seconds

Your racing pedestrians at crossings?

[slofox]

Some time ago now, I stopped in a line of traffic at a red light. There's a cycle lane on the LHS of this road. A scooter came trundling up the inside in the cycle lane - obviously unaware of the Highway Patrol car waiting up the front of the queue...

Once the light went green we all moved off - past the poor scooter rider getting the stern talking to on the side of the road from Mr Highway Patrolman...

After that I stopped using that cycle lane...:innocent:

[Spearfish]

Some time ago now, I stopped in a line of traffic at a red light. There's a cycle lane on the LHS of this road. A scooter came trundling up the inside in the cycle lane - obviously unaware of the Highway Patrol car waiting up the front of the queue...

Once the light went green we all moved off - past the poor scooter rider getting the stern talking to on the side of the road from Mr Highway Patrolman...

After that I stopped using that cycle lane...:innocent:

I've seen plenty of scoots dismount and walk through intersections with the pedestrians (engine running)then ride off. Must save a whole 30 sec, maybe even a whopping 40?
A at least Auckland lets us use the bus lanes and go with the bus only lights.

[danchop]

I've seen plenty of scoots dismount and walk through intersections with the pedestrians (engine running)then ride off. Must save a whole 30 sec, maybe even a whopping 40?
A at least Auckland lets us use the bus lanes and go with the bus only lights.
if you get to queen/victoria st intersection and the lights have just gone red you have to wait for the pedestrians to cross,then two phases of opposing traffic,then another round of pedestrians to cross,and then its your turn(a good 4-5minutes in total)

[Spearfish]

if you get to queen/victoria st intersection and the lights have just gone red you have to wait for the pedestrians to cross,then two phases of opposing traffic,then another round of pedestrians to cross,and then its your turn(a good 4-5minutes in total)

my idea of 40 sec was a bit lite then. LoL

[danchop]

my idea of 40 sec was a bit lite then. LoL
thats the worst scenario in auckland though,theyre trying to get vehicles out of the cbd,but ive seen guys ride through(not pushing)on pedestrian crossings just like pushbikes do