Pirelli Angel STs

[beyond]

The best tyre I've found for the GSX1400 that lasts a "reasonable" distance has been the Michelin Pilot Road 2. It gives good grip in wet and dry and handles the low down torque quite well coming out of corners.

Haven't been able to get any due to worldwide demand through my local supplier. Had to settle for a Pirelli Angel St rear while I wore out the front PR2 a couple of months back.

The Angel St is a great tyre. Awesome feedback, saved me from a serious highside on Highway 22 a month or so back as it gave and slid for enough time for me to get everything back together again but must admit, it was fair howling and gave off a lot of burning rubber but feedback was brilliant.

BUT.... as great a tye as it's been, it lasted 2400kms and was just past legal limits when I got her changed today. I have a full set of Angels at the mo as still no PR2's in the shop. The front PR2 lasted 5200kms and I usually get around 3500kms out of a rear Pilot Road 2 .

I think the Angels would be great on super sport but I think the torque and weight of the 14 hasn't helped longevity,

[Owl]

You sure are hard on tyres!:gob:

Good to get feedback though, as I have a set of Angel's in the garage.:D

[Kornholio]

Nice to see you're still shredding tires Paul :)

[LBD]

Like to hear if any one has compared them with the BT016's that I love so much .... but shred the front iand rear sides in 4000km....?

[Spearfish]

The front PR2 lasted 5200kms and I usually get around 3500kms out of a rear Pilot Road 2 .

I think the Angels would be great on super sport but I think the torque and weight of the 14 hasn't helped longevity,

So does that mean you don't need change engine oil between rear tyres?

[crash harry]

How on earth do you wear out a set of PR2s that fast? I g0t over 15,000k off a set on the R1....

[mulletman]

How on earth do you wear out a set of PR2s that fast? I g0t over 15,000k off a set on the R1....

Over 15k on a R1 Faark ??? I was real happy with 10k on my 1400 ,

[Hitcher]

That's spectacular tyre wear. Even my FJR1300 would get between 11,000 and 12,000km out of a decent sports touring tyre. One presumes that most of those km are spent going hard around a race track?

[beyond]

Nope, no track days on those tyres. No two up riding, no burnouts, no wheelies.... just weekend scratching.

[Pixie]

The best tyre I've found for the GSX1400 that lasts a "reasonable" distance has been the Michelin Pilot Road 2. It gives good grip in wet and dry and handles the low down torque quite well coming out of corners.

Haven't been able to get any due to worldwide demand through my local supplier. Had to settle for a Pirelli Angel St rear while I wore out the front PR2 a couple of months back.

The Angel St is a great tyre. Awesome feedback, saved me from a serious highside on Highway 22 a month or so back as it gave and slid for enough time for me to get everything back together again but must admit, it was fair howling and gave off a lot of burning rubber but feedback was brilliant.

BUT.... as great a tye as it's been, it lasted 2400kms and was just past legal limits when I got her changed today. I have a full set of Angels at the mo as still no PR2's in the shop. The front PR2 lasted 5200kms and I usually get around 3500kms out of a rear Pilot Road 2 .

I think the Angels would be great on super sport but I think the torque and weight of the 14 hasn't helped longevity,

Interesting.
I was considering Angels after I was told they had incredible longevity.
I have been using PR 2CTs too and get 13,000 km out of the rear. (ridden lickity split)

[R-Soul]

Nope, no track days on those tyres. No two up riding, no burnouts, no wheelies.... just weekend scratching.

With an angle grinder?

[sinned]

The best tyre I've found for the GSX1400 that lasts a "reasonable" distance has been the Michelin Pilot Road 2.
The front PR2 lasted 5200kms and I usually get around 3500kms out of a rear Pilot Road 2 .
I think the Angels would be great on super sport but I think the torque and weight of the 14 hasn't helped longevity,

I was thinking of Angels for the next replacement and expect to get double that distance. Being conscious of the rear stripping capability of the bike I don't do expensive launches from lights and shift early into 2nd.


Like to hear if any one has compared them with the BT016's that I love so much .... but shred the front iand rear sides in 4000km....? I was going to be able to do that. I have a BT016 rear done 6000kms and I expect to get 9000kms. I agree the sides wear fast and that is all lost on the takas. Which indicates they wouldn't last long if I was doing more than an estimated 4% of riding on twisty roads. With that small percentage of cornering the rear is wearing nice and evenly all round - little in the way of a flat spot.


Interesting.
I was considering Angels after I was told they had incredible longevity.
I have been using PR 2CTs too and get 13,000 km out of the rear. (ridden lickity split)
The testing indicates they will provide good longevity. I am sure I will get better life out of Angels than Beyond.
Question - do I stay with BT016 or go for the Angels? Anyone know how they compare for price?

[slofox]

I used to use PR2's on the SVS - good for around 14 - 15000km per set. Usually the front scalloped out before the rear lost its hair...

The new bike has BT016's on it (not OEM's). After a couple of days riding on them, I have no fault to find with them - so far anyway. Seems the previous owner swapped them over at about 7000km...

Not sure what I will look at when change time rolls around...

[beyond]

Don't get me wrong. Not knocking the Angels as they are a very good tyre. I'm rough on rubber and love cornering. I whacked a rear BT020 in 2400kms as well as that was the original tyres on the bike when I bought it new. They were ok in the dry but lethal in the wet.

The Angels are a very good tyre and many people get very good wear from them. BUT on the 1400 the weight of the bike and cornering forces plus the torque takes their toll on tyres when pushed harder than normal.

Diablo Corsa's were chewed in no times as well as Dunlops so I settled for PR2's as they are slightly harder and still gave good wet weather grip. The Metzler Z6's were good as well with similar wear to the PR2's.

Cheers

[kiwifruit]

The Metzler Z6's were good

Are you having a laugh?! Z6s are good for one thing only; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCGcK38XtKo

[beyond]

Are you having a laugh?! Z6s are good for one thing only; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCGcK38XtKo

LOL, yeah but look how long they lasted. I didn't hear them pop in that vid. :)

[Katman]

Still menacing the public then, I see.

[beyond]

Still menacing the public then, I see.

Hey, long time no response :)

I ride where there are no public. It's safer I reckon.

[Katman]

Hey, long time no response :)

I ride where there are no public. It's safer I reckon.

You have your own private road now?

[nallac]

You have your own private road now?

Don't we all?..

[Kornholio]

You have your own private road now?

I wish every cunt would keep off mine!! :)

[OnCam]

hey there, i think i saw you at DTPC when i was there getting my pures fitted up on the zx6r, the tyre wear sounds impressive.. what sort of pressures are you running? im sure your on the money but it can increase wear not having them at optimum, have you tried using more pressure etc.. how is the tyre wearing? sides shredded? top flat all over etc, how is the front?.. could come down to your suspension setup also, making the tyres work harder. (more so with the weight/ riding style obviously)

Cam

[The Pastor]

I know, from your reputation, you're a fast rider. but that life span is a bit short. How well set up is your suspension? I know a lot of people who went from the same sorta life to 10-15k after getting there suspension sorted. You should look at this if you havnt it'll pay for itself with in the first time u change tyres. Unless you get tyres REAL cheap lol

is that the same amount of kms for front and rear?

I get 5000km out of a cbr250 rear, and about 10 on the front. From hardish tyres. I know thats all in the suspension which i desperately need to look at lol 5000km lasts me from a week to a month on the good days :P

[beyond]

hey there, i think i saw you at DTPC when i was there getting my pures fitted up on the zx6r, the tyre wear sounds impressive.. what sort of pressures are you running? im sure your on the money but it can increase wear not having them at optimum, have you tried using more pressure etc.. how is the tyre wearing? sides shredded? top flat all over etc, how is the front?.. could come down to your suspension setup also, making the tyres work harder. (more so with the weight/ riding style obviously)

Cam


Yeah, was at DTPC last Saturday morning getting a new set of Angels fitted.
Yep, always check my pressures for the optimum riding experience and my suspenders are the best I can get to for handling and stability without going for after market units.

The tyres wear evenly and the front wears to the normal bald at 10 and 2 oclock positions with meat left in the centre.

I'm a bit hard on the cornering aspect so they do get a real good workout.

[beyond]

I know, from your reputation, you're a fast rider. but that life span is a bit short. How well set up is your suspension? I know a lot of people who went from the same sorta life to 10-15k after getting there suspension sorted. You should look at this if you havnt it'll pay for itself with in the first time u change tyres. Unless you get tyres REAL cheap lol

is that the same amount of kms for front and rear?


get 5000km out of a cbr250 rear, and about 10 on the front. From hardish tyres. I know thats all in the suspension which i desperately need to look at lol 5000km lasts me from a week to a month on the good days :P




I don't get tyres cheap unfortunately :(
Front normally 5,000kms on the PR2's and around 3500kms on the rear with PR2's. The angels are a full set this time so I'm not expecting much from the front this time.
The suspenders are set up for the best ride the way I ride her which is quite hard but it needs to be with the weight of the bike :)