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Expert
8th May 2010, 17:37
Does anyone know if there is a law or bylaw that prohibits trucks from using their engine brakes in built-up areas? They're much louder than the loudest motorbike or car exhaust, it makes my whole house shake.
I know i live close to the motorway so i should expect some noise, but those truckies are taking the piss.
red mermaid
8th May 2010, 18:04
Some local authorities have a specific bylaw for this.
Ruapehu in the central North Island is one that comes to mind and the ticket is $700, I think.
Otherwise its a subjective test of using a vehicle in a noisy manner and depending on the time, place, and circumstances can be tricky to prove.
imdying
8th May 2010, 19:02
Motorway, yeah you might have trouble with that, only the council can really tell you though. Consider double glazing though; it's a good boost in insultation, and is surprisingly effective at cutting down noise... although if it's enough to shake the house... :(
And they hadn't invented engine brakes when you moved in? You should be so old you can't them anyway.
something like 10pm at night till 6am in the morning in built up areas....A Jacob's cackling away is better than most boy racers baked bean tin drones though
Too right, a jakes brake at 2 grand is one of the best sounds out there. Harden up, you choose to live next to a motorway, deal with it. Plus, its a safety feature.
There are a few different signs around the country discouraging the use of engine braking in built up areas, iirc the ones with the red boarders are a council bylaw, but at the end of the day safety should prevail.
FJRider
8th May 2010, 20:22
Does anyone know if there is a law or bylaw that prohibits trucks from using their engine brakes in built-up areas? They're much louder than the loudest motorbike or car exhaust, it makes my whole house shake.
I know i live close to the motorway so i should expect some noise, but those truckies are taking the piss.
Don't moan ... living next to a motorway, if they don't use the engine brakes ... a brake failure (for ANY reason)may mean the fence/house they go through to stop, may be YOURS ...
Why dont you buy a house next to an AIRPORT/RAILWAY LINE .... enjoy the change ...
fliplid
9th May 2010, 09:07
Does anyone know if there is a law or bylaw that prohibits trucks from using their engine brakes in built-up areas? They're much louder than the loudest motorbike or car exhaust, it makes my whole house shake.
I know i live close to the motorway so i should expect some noise, but those truckies are taking the piss.
It's a fekking motorway! As mentioned, you decided to live there, so it's summat you've got to put up with. To quote BD "HTFU".
I'm glad the truck I drive has engine brakes- they are fitted for a reason, to help slow the vehicle down as needed.
Hopeful Bastard
9th May 2010, 11:56
Does anyone know if there is a law or bylaw that prohibits trucks from using their engine brakes in built-up areas? They're much louder than the loudest motorbike or car exhaust, it makes my whole house shake.
I know i live close to the motorway so i should expect some noise, but those truckies are taking the piss.
Define built up areas. I was living in a built up area but there we no laws saying surrounding that area that said you couldnt use engine brakes.
Some areas do have these laws. But if you are living next to a motorway, Then no. There wouldnt be any laws surrounding that area.
Expert
9th May 2010, 18:59
It wasn't bad when i moved in but there must be a new brand of truck that has a real loud jake brake, it's deafening, i'm not kidding.
I used to drive a truck and i know that using the retarder on the short strech of hill outside mine is unnesseccary.
I know i should expect it living next to a busy road but why do you nobheads with your htfu comments need to jump down my throat about it? I'm only asking a question, you got nothing better to do?
nodrog
9th May 2010, 19:19
you're the expert
Well, my two cents back up whats already been said....YOU CHOSE TO LIVE THERE...so it comes with the territory....It is like living next to a railway track....after time you should get used to it and it wont bother you....Maybe, just maybe there is something else that is making you sleep lighter than normal...
Be a good boy and go and drink some horlicks
Kickaha
9th May 2010, 19:43
I'm glad the truck I drive has engine brakes- they are fitted for a reason, to help slow the vehicle down as needed.
So your truck doesn't have real brakes to slow you down?
Mudfart
9th May 2010, 20:01
i used to drive trucks, and when they put the "engine braking prohibited" signs right on the crest of a steep hill.....effin morons. ok, i'll roll down the hill with no brakes. motorways must be exempt coz i used to live beside the motorway between takanini and manurewa, where the motorway has a straight "gentle" incline. it was engine brake central, and yes everything used to shake.
stick one in tha missus and just sit back, no effort required.
Mudfart
9th May 2010, 20:03
So your truck doesn't have real brakes to slow you down?
mate, when you have a load on, you HAVE to use engine brakes, especially going down hill, its very simple.
When I was living in Auckland, I lived near two night clubs and the CBD firestation. They are not that bad.
Oh hey, what do I know. You are the expert.
Kiwi Graham
9th May 2010, 20:38
I dont know how they work, but I presume it diverts the exhaust gases through a restrictor generating back pressure and then exhausts back into the system somewhere.
Is it not possible to put a silencer in there somewhere? or is it a cost thing?
Shit, I've just read what I written and even I dont understand what I meant to say.........as you were.
fliplid
9th May 2010, 20:41
mate, when you have a load on, you HAVE to use engine brakes, especially going down hill, its very simple.
"...they are fitted for a reason, to help slow the vehicle down as needed." Some folk just don't get it, eh Kichaha?:blink:
huff3r
9th May 2010, 20:44
Personally I'd rather they use them than try and stop a 20 tonne truck with a standard brake booster!!
I dont know how they work, but I presume it diverts the exhaust gases through a restrictor generating back pressure and then exhausts back into the system somewhere.
Is it not possible to put a silencer in there somewhere? or is it a cost thing?
Shit, I've just read what I written and even I dont understand what I meant to say.........as you were.
It pretty much turns an engine into an air compressor, an added unit ontop of the valve train is the most popular system which opens up the exhaust valve at the top of the compression stroke and cuts fuel injection. Not hard to work out what the end result is. Popular in Europe, is a more restrictive exhaust but that is going to be added cost to the purchase price and most likey a drop in power, so not worth it, just to please a few fuckwits who choose to live next to a busy road. The same wankers who want the 80 year old western springs speedway shut down.
Would like to throw the nay sayers into a 40 tonne unit without an engine brake, one of the most efficient tools for speed control and braking, betcha these wankers don't have to fork out for an 8 axle re line!
Kickaha
9th May 2010, 22:34
mate, when you have a load on, you HAVE to use engine brakes, especially going down hill, its very simple.
From what I've seen a lot of drivers will use them anywhere then can downhill or not
The same wankers who want the 80 year old western springs speedway shut down.
You must mean the wankers who would just like Western Springs to abide by the noise conditions they've chosen to ignore for quite some time
blackdog
17th May 2010, 14:58
From what I've seen a lot of drivers will use them anywhere then can downhill or not
i leave mine on all the time. why wear brake pads when the exhaust brake will do the same job?
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