Stab in the dark

[Maha]

On the Stabbing issue (student V teacher in Te Puke)
Two English females on the radio yesterday saying they had come to NZ to get away form this kind of shit in England, they couldn't cope with the children being exposed to system that portects the attaker in situations like this.

I dont beleive this was just a random attack on a School Teacher.
Maybe the Student has a 'gang' connections (it is Red County down that way) but I feel there is more to this attack than what some are terming a 'Gang Initiation'.

The last time something like this happened, it turned out that the Teacher was always in the kids face with racial comments (student was Asian)
Not saying that this is the case in the lastest stabbing, and no teacher deserves to be stabbed/harmed or otherwise but, if a student is a tad unstable and is tormented enough, it is possible that something like this could happen happen.
Maybe the other students in the class would have a better idea on whay it happened?

I got roughed up by a Teacher at High School in the 70's.
He denied it (it was only him and me in the corridoor at the time) but it happened.
It all started because I said hello to him upon entering the classroom.

Having the words 'Mr Mathews is a Wanker' written in my excerise book didnt help the situation, granted.

[MSTRS]

I got roughed up by a Teacher at High School in the 70's.
He denied it (it was only him and me in the corridoor at the time) but it happened.
It all started because I said hello to him upon entering the classroom.



From the 2 minute mark...

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[mashman]

Teachers are an easy mark these days because they can't defend themselves... that and a class full of kids saying the teacher started it isn't exactly going to help a teachers cause, irrespective of who was to "blame" to begin with... I fear we will see more and more of this over the next few years... indeed I moved from the UK to get away from that kind of shit too... perhaps i'm just a shit magnet :)

[mashman]

... and now they think bullying is behind it...

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/7210673/bullying-may-be-behind-teachers-stabbing/

shame that all i got from this was, kid was getting bullied and so picked on one of the only people that LEGALLY can't defend themselves...

[Indiana_Jones]

The teachers can't do a thing, not even shout as that's considered 'abuse' now, and the students know it.

We now have an entire generation who are going through the schooling system and all they know are 'My rights' and 'My entitlements'

The MY generation....

-Indy

[Smifffy]

The teachers can't do a thing, not even shout as that's considered 'abuse' now, and the students know it.

We now have an entire generation who are going through the schooling system and all they know are 'My rights' and 'My entitlements'

The MY generation....

-Indy

If anyone physically attacks you, you are legally entitled to defend yourself, without using excessive force.

That right has not been removed for teachers afaik.

[Indiana_Jones]

If anyone physically attacks you, you are legally entitled to defend yourself, without using excessive force.

That right has not been removed for teachers afaik.

This is true, but I was thinking more in regards of punishing the little cunts before they even dream of doing such a thing.

-Indy

[Kwaka14]

The teachers can't do a thing, not even shout as that's considered 'abuse' now, and the students know it.

We now have an entire generation who are going through the schooling system and all they know are 'My rights' and 'My entitlements'

The MY generation....

-Indy

Really sucks eh.

My father is (was) a teacher, is 65, and has been attacked twice in the last 2 years. Both times he was knocked to the ground and hurt enough to not be working for a while. The repercussions for the perpertrator in both instances (different students both times (in the same group of kids)) has been a 2 day suspension the first one, and a 5 day suspension the second one. Repercussions for my father however have been somewhat harsher, he depended on this work to survive, as a relieving teacher he was simply not invited back as a reliever (good I say, but he feels that the school is blaming him) he was offerred no apologies by the school, by the students or their parents. He did not defend himself (as he knows (and every teacher does) that if he had, its thanks very much - we'll discipline you). He asked the school to involve the police after the first time and was told that that wasn't how it worked.

Why be a teacher?

[Indiana_Jones]

Really sucks eh.

My father is (was) a teacher, is 65, and has been attacked twice in the last 2 years. Both times he was knocked to the ground and hurt enough to not be working for a while. The repercussions for the perpertrator in both instances (different students both times (in the same group of kids)) has been a 2 day suspension the first one, and a 5 day suspension the second one. Repercussions for my father however have been somewhat harsher, he depended on this work to survive, as a relieving teacher he was simply not invited back as a reliever (good I say, but he feels that the school is blaming him) he was offerred no apologies by the school, by the students or their parents. He did not defend himself (as he knows (and every teacher does) that if he had, its thanks very much - we'll discipline you). He asked the school to involve the police after the first time and was told that that wasn't how it worked.

Why be a teacher?

Makes one sick doesn't it?

-Indy

[98tls]

This is true, but I was thinking more in regards of punishing the little cunts before they even dream of doing such a thing.

-Indy
Agreed,far worse is yet to come methinks from the "unsmackable" generation.
The demented bitch that thought of this shite will have alot to answer for in a decade or so.

[Smifffy]

Agreed,far worse is yet to come methinks from the "unsmackable" generation.
The demented bitch that thought of this shite will have alot to answer for a decade or so.

....but look how the elimination of corporal punishment and now the anti-smacking law have reduced violence in our communities....

farkin Tui award of the decade that 1.

[Smifffy]

Agreed,far worse is yet to come methinks from the "unsmackable" generation.
The demented bitch that thought of this shite will have alot to answer for in a decade or so.

Is it ok to blame the police for that too? By my reckoning they should have batoned the bitch much harder during her protest years ;)

[98tls]

....but look how the elimination of corporal punishment and now the anti-smacking law have reduced violence in our communities....

farkin Tui award of the decade that 1.

Yep,bit like the main beneficiary of "working for familes" is the lottery commision.Countrys fucked.

[Maki]

Really sucks eh.

My father is (was) a teacher, is 65, and has been attacked twice in the last 2 years. Both times he was knocked to the ground and hurt enough to not be working for a while. The repercussions for the perpertrator in both instances (different students both times (in the same group of kids)) has been a 2 day suspension the first one, and a 5 day suspension the second one. Repercussions for my father however have been somewhat harsher, he depended on this work to survive, as a relieving teacher he was simply not invited back as a reliever (good I say, but he feels that the school is blaming him) he was offerred no apologies by the school, by the students or their parents. He did not defend himself (as he knows (and every teacher does) that if he had, its thanks very much - we'll discipline you). He asked the school to involve the police after the first time and was told that that wasn't how it worked.

Why be a teacher?

That makes me sick to read. Regardless of what he was told that IS how it works. Assault is illegal in New Zealand and those who do it should be prosecuted. Your father should go after the school and the perpetrators to the hilt.

[imdying]

From the 2 minute mark...If you google about a bit, you'll find you can set in the link where you want the video to start. Holler if you can't find it and I'll have a dig about :yes:

[red mermaid]

What I find strange about the whole thing, and CYF's generally is;

The boys father is in prison, so the boy is sent to live with his grandparents who brought up his father who is in prison.

I mean, they made such a success of bringing up the father, lets give them another kid!

[peasea]

The teachers can't do a thing, not even shout as that's considered 'abuse' now, and the students know it.

We now have an entire generation who are going through the schooling system and all they know are 'My rights' and 'My entitlements'

The MY generation....

-Indy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uswXI4fDYrM&a=yYPWfaTEJc4&playnext_from=ML

[peasea]

What I find strange about the whole thing, and CYF's generally is;

The boys father is in prison, so the boy is sent to live with his grandparents who brought up his father who is in prison.

I mean, they made such a success of bringing up the father, lets give them another kid!

CYF's = knobs.

[ynot slow]

What I find strange about the whole thing, and CYF's generally is;

The boys father is in prison, so the boy is sent to live with his grandparents who brought up his father who is in prison.

I mean, they made such a success of bringing up the father, lets give them another kid!

And don't even take a not guilty verdict from court to mean innocent,they think they know best,wonder why so many kids are killed in the company of care givers they approve,never mind the parent who was not guilty was suitable parent,but the dickwads at Cyfs deemed to know better,were told but listened hell no.

I recall the liberal twats saying banning corporal punishment meant kids would respect their teachers,yeah right,how many assaults since those enlighening days of legislation,compared to pre corporal punishment.All it's done is create a dominatrix trade for those wanting to be caned,stuff me why pay to get caned.

[peasea]

And don't even take a not guilty verdict from court to mean innocent,they think they know best,wonder why so many kids are killed in the company of care givers they approve,never mind the parent who was not guilty was suitable parent,but the dickwads at Cyfs deemed to know better,were told but listened hell no.

I recall the liberal twats saying banning corporal punishment meant kids would respect their teachers,yeah right,how many assaults since those enlighening days of legislation,compared to pre corporal punishment.All it's done is create a dominatrix trade for those wanting to be caned,stuff me why pay to get caned.

Shit! I was caned at school, didn't cost me a cent. Never saw the attraction though. I thought detention was way better; you got to goof off with your mates in detention.

[Maha]

Shit! I was caned at school, didn't cost me a cent. Never saw the attraction though. I thought detention was way better; you got to goof off with your mates in detention.

I thought you would've goofed off in the privacy of your own bedroom?

[peasea]

I thought you would've goofed off in the privacy of your own bedroom?

Nah, that's 'pulled off'..........