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bugjuice
23rd May 2005, 14:51
From the NZ Herald:

<blockquote>US government says no billboards in space

20.05.05 1.20pm

WASHINGTON - The United States government does not want billboards in space.

The Federal Aviation Administration proposed on Thursday to amend its regulations to ensure that it can enforce a law that prohibits "obtrusive" advertising in zero gravity.

"Objects placed in orbit, if large enough, could be seen by people around the world for long periods of time," the FAA said in a regulatory filing.

Currently, the FAA lacks the authority to enforce the existing law.

For instance, outsized billboards deployed by a space company into low Earth orbit could appear as large as the moon and be seen without a telescope, the FAA said. Big and bright advertisements might hinder astronomers.

"Large advertisements could destroy the darkness of the night sky," regulators said.

- REUTERS</blockquote>

just bizzare. Shows we're entering a new age.

John
23rd May 2005, 14:56
It shows how doomed humans are.

Krusti
23rd May 2005, 15:00
Imagine....nice evening....looking up.....COKE....PEPSI....any one seen the moon?

Or ...Earth endured longest winter, advertising blocks sun....

bugjuice
23rd May 2005, 15:02
...Earth endured longest winter, advertising blocks sun....
ad blocking it is for sunscreen...

Krusti
23rd May 2005, 15:04
Yeah...we are a really bright species us humans....

Lou Girardin
23rd May 2005, 15:07
Humans are OK. Merkins are..............................strange

Krusti
23rd May 2005, 15:09
Biggest Billboard would probably read sumit like...Step out of line and we'll nail ya..USA...

or... Is that you Osama?

Skunk
23rd May 2005, 15:10
Reminds me of an Arthur C. Clarke story written in the early sixties...

John
23rd May 2005, 15:10
Humans are OK. Merkins are..............................strange
well put, very well put - sums up all world affairs in one sentence

NC
23rd May 2005, 15:13
Humans are OK. Merkins are..............................strange
Merkinomics is stranger, and the merkin effect.

NC
23rd May 2005, 15:14
Reminds me of an Arthur C. Clarke story written in the early sixties...
You can't take a man seriously after he brought thai boys for pleasure.

NC
23rd May 2005, 15:16
Biggest Billboard would probably read sumit like...Step out of line and we'll nail ya..USA...

or... Is that you Osama?
Fucken Americans, that's a waste of everything! The person that came up with the idea needs to be killed with death.

Skunk
23rd May 2005, 15:29
You can't take a man seriously after he brought thai boys for pleasure.
Did he? Was he charged? When? :no:

(He was my fav sci-fi writer - til now :mad: )

Big Dave
23rd May 2005, 15:49
Did he? Was he charged? When? :no:

(He was my fav sci-fi writer - til now :mad: )

yep me too - 'the city, the stars' 2001 - 2010, all the short stories, read them several times. he and Asimov my favourite authors.

Then we find out why he likes living in Sri lanka. Don't think he was ever convicted but he made some statements that make M Jackson sound normal.

bugjuice
23rd May 2005, 15:51
The person that came up with the idea needs to be killed with death.
as apposed to...???

Big Dave
23rd May 2005, 15:57
Biggest Billboard would probably read sumit like...Step out of line and we'll nail ya..USA...

or... Is that you Osama?


"The Soviet Union, which has complained recently about alleged anti-Soviet themes in American advertising, lodged an official protest this week against the Ford Motor Company's new campaign: 'Hey you stinking fat Russian, get off my Ford Escort.'"

- Dennis Miller, Saturday Night Live


(a lot of Americans are pretty cool too - look at waylander - he cops all our shite sweet enough)

SPORK
23rd May 2005, 16:11
(a lot of Americans are pretty cool too - look at waylander - he cops all our shite sweet enough)

And don't forget my American family, they're not true Americans, and I think they're Commies, so they're all good!

Lou Girardin
23rd May 2005, 16:12
(a lot of Americans are pretty cool too - look at waylander - he cops all our shite sweet enough)

Look, if we wanted rational, non-generalisations we'll ask for them, OK :devil2:

Big Dave
23rd May 2005, 16:19
Look, if we wanted rational, non-generalisations we'll ask for them, OK :devil2:

sorry. f*** the yanks.

Skunk
23rd May 2005, 16:22
a lot of Americans are pretty cool
Right you're on my ignore list...

sorry. f*** the yanks.
Now I have to take you back off my ignore list :killingme

250learna
23rd May 2005, 17:13
im not keen on that kinda wierd things.....whats next terminators?? :no:

Waylander
23rd May 2005, 17:18
:confused: Hmm, I wonder where all this came from...

StoneChucker
23rd May 2005, 17:39
You all hate the Yanks? Thats something I've never understood. There is an American nurse working at the hospital I work at. Must I hate her? Or tell her I hate her country and all that SHE has done to it?

Oh, wait a minute, she didn't do anything, but I'll hate her anyway.

This is fun :wait:


:confused: Hmm, I wonder where all this came from...

You think THAT is a nice thing to MAKE our members feel?
I'm sorry, but I hold very little respect for people who generalise SO greatly, and make is SO public you make people feel like the above.... :puke:

Waylander
23rd May 2005, 17:44
You all hate the Yanks? Thats something I've never understood. There is an American nurse working at the hospital I work at. Must I hate her? Or tell her I hate her country and all that SHE has done to it?

Oh, wait a minute, she didn't do anything, but I'll hate her anyway.

This is fun :wait:



You think THAT is a nice thing to MAKE our members feel?
I'm sorry, but I hold very little respect for people who generalise SO greatly, and make is SO public you make people feel like the above.... :puke:

Hmm didn't mean to do that. This thread I'm guessing started as a PT sort of thing (right bugjuice?)
I certainly wasn't taking it serious. A bit used to the 'merkin' hating thing here becouse I'm not a merkin. I'm a Texan, there's a difference.:D
Anyway as you were.

Big Dave
23rd May 2005, 17:46
:confused: Hmm, I wonder where all this came from...

Don't worry about it - i have a theory - (i usually do.)

'Dave's law of folks is folks'
When you go and live in a foreign country you find that people aren't that different. There are good people and there are those you regard as assholes* - in reasonably consistent ratios.
In Australia there are approximately 5 times as many assholes as there are in NZ - simply because there are 5 times as many people. Same for the US by a factor of 50.
Conversely if you put all prejudice aside, you'll find about that many times the amount of people you'll get on with and can call friend.

I believe that anti US sentiment in NZ comes down to the fact that American foreign Policy flat out sucks and doesn't act with popular consent of it's erstwhile allies.

And some of it is the same general piss taking that I cop for the way I say six, chance, dance and france.

(* my call hitcher)

StoneChucker
23rd May 2005, 18:05
Don't worry about it - i have a theory - (i usually do.)

'Dave's law of folks is folks'
When you go and live in a foreign country you find that people aren't that different. There are good people and there are those you regard as assholes* - in reasonably consistent ratios.
In Australia there are approximately 5 times as many assholes as there are in NZ - simply because there are 5 times as many people. Same for the US by a factor of 50.
Conversely if you put all prejudice aside, you'll find about that many times the amount of people you'll get on with and can call friend.

I believe that anti US sentiment in NZ comes down to the fact that American foreign Policy flat out sucks and doesn't act with popular consent of it's erstwhile allies.

And some of it is the same general piss taking that I cop for the way I say six, chance, dance and france.

(* my call hitcher)

Hehe, ok I agree somewhat :msn-wink: However, even though there are 5 times as many arseholes in Oz, they are spread around the hole more so you in theory, shouldn't come across any greater percentage of arseholes than you would here...

The BIG problems arise when all the arseholes of one country congregate in one area. Thats when the shit hits the fan :killingme

Any idea what percentage of the population, on average, are arseholes? Does this vary greatly between countries? :msn-wink: :D

SPman
23rd May 2005, 18:09
(* my call hitcher)

Yes, be afraid....be very afraid...! :drinknsin

wkid_one
23rd May 2005, 18:19
Technically, if they were in space - they wouldn't be the 'world's' biggest billboards as this usually refers to Earth!

Skyryder
23rd May 2005, 18:53
Any one read DECEPTION POINT by Dan Brown? He's the guy who wrote the da Vinci Code. Anyway there's an interestion point of view about privatising NASA in DECEPTION POINT. Space billboards was mentioned.

Skyryder

Big Dave
23rd May 2005, 18:56
Any idea what percentage of the population, on average, are arseholes? Does this vary greatly between countries? :msn-wink: :D

Not geographic or racial but more dependent on socio-economic conditions. IE: I find it much easier to get on with rich bastards and expensive toys.

SuperDave
23rd May 2005, 19:10
Capitalism at its finest! :yes:

SuperDave
23rd May 2005, 19:15
Oh yeah! Thanks Bugjuice! I know what I am going to write my english essay on. I was playing with the idea but after that post I now have plenty to say :D

Jackrat
23rd May 2005, 20:40
From the NZ Herald:

<blockquote>US government says no billboards in space

20.05.05 1.20pm

WASHINGTON - The United States government does not want billboards in space.

The Federal Aviation Administration proposed on Thursday to amend its regulations to ensure that it can enforce a law that prohibits "obtrusive" advertising in zero gravity.

"Objects placed in orbit, if large enough, could be seen by people around the world for long periods of time," the FAA said in a regulatory filing.

Currently, the FAA lacks the authority to enforce the existing law.

For instance, outsized billboards deployed by a space company into low Earth orbit could appear as large as the moon and be seen without a telescope, the FAA said. Big and bright advertisements might hinder astronomers.

"Large advertisements could destroy the darkness of the night sky," regulators said.

- REUTERS</blockquote>

just bizzare. Shows we're entering a new age.

Plus,it could ruin the line of fire.

Biff
23rd May 2005, 20:49
Fkin adverts in space!! :brick: :brick: :brick:
It's bad enough having fkin adverts on TV, especially on Sky - a fkin channel I fkin pay for. Now the fkers want to put those fkin things above my fkin head. Fk off and get proper jobs you granny robbing, nut licking, arse flogging, phlegm sucking, poneytailed, punk mother fckers : mad: :mad:

Rant over.

Waylander
23rd May 2005, 20:53
Fkin adverts in space!! :brick: :brick: :brick:
It's bad enough having fkin adverts on TV, especially on Sky - a fkin channel I fkin pay for. Now put them above my fkin head. Fk off :mad: :mad:

Rant over.

You know I don't mind adverts on tv, but at movie theatres? The whole reason I will go see a movie in the theatre is to get away from adverts and now they have up to 10 minutes of the crap on before the movie. Previews are one thing I like those. I see what movies are comming out that I want to see but all that other crap can just stay the hell out of my movie experiance!!!!


[/rant over now]

Wolf
24th May 2005, 12:11
It's a sad indictment of our times that someone felt the need to categorically state "we don't effing-great billbords mounted in LEO (Low Earth Orbit)"

What they're saying is "we know the ad agencies and the filth who employ them have no qualms about bespoiling our countryside and we can't trust the filthy pricks not to do the same to space given an ecomonically viable method of acheiving it."

The idea of orbital adverts is a horror befitting the Cyberpunk Genre - lets pray it remains in the realm of fiction.

If not, I'm going to ensure I gain access to Earth-to-Space missiles... (and I bet a rocket with a suitable warhead would cost me less than it'd cost them to put up an orbital ad.)

Skunk
24th May 2005, 12:21
Ah well, I guess it's back to burning the ad into the hillside paddocks...

crazylittleshit
24th May 2005, 12:22
wow humans are fucked up :yes:

Biff
24th May 2005, 12:30
It's a sad indictment of our times that someone felt the need to categorically state "we don't effing-great billbords mounted in LEO (Low Earth Orbit)"

Ahh - so they want to put them in LEO do they ? That's not so bad. Because at 200 miles up they'll need to travel at around 17,000 mph (to avoid falling to earth) and will re-appear about every 90 minutes for a few moments. A bit like the fkin Warehouse adverts on the TV. Bstards :mad:

ManDownUnder
24th May 2005, 12:38
Capitalism at its finest! :yes:


no no no - yust ask dubya - they're spreading Democracy - not capitalism...:killingme

Can you imagine who they're going to annoy?
1) What language will they be in?
2) Freedom of speech? What about issue offensive to other countries (tampons/condoms err others?!?)

Nope - they're mad. I think they'll be giving a lot of other countries an incentive to enter the space race with explosives... "ad-busting"

MDU

Paul in NZ
24th May 2005, 12:53
Meh! In a few years you will be watching billboards in space with pictures of the night sky on them... :killingme

Wolf
24th May 2005, 12:53
Ahh - so they want to put them in LEO do they ? That's not so bad. Because at 200 miles up they'll need to travel at around 17,000 mph (to avoid falling to earth)
Been to university, have ya?

Dude, you're geekier than me!

and will re-appear about every 90 minutes for a few moments. A bit like the fkin Warehouse adverts on the TV. Bstards :mad:
I wish the ads on TV would only recur every 90 minutes!

Biff
24th May 2005, 12:55
Dude, you're geekier than me!

Unlikely - you are king geek.
:msn-wink:

bugjuice
24th May 2005, 12:56
was thinking a little more on this;

if they did put a board up there, do ya think we could find a big-ass gun and shoot at it?

What happens if they get a little sloppy and if shifts from its orbit, bringing it back down to earth (remember, they reckon it'll be the viewable size of the moon, which is still f'in big, and what size is that anyway? last night it was huge at dusk and tiny by 11pm), then what? We've seen some billboards already that have the paper falling off them..

Will it actually make that product sell any more? Just cos they have a billboard in space instead of the side of the street, does it make you want to buy anything any more? not me.. waste of time and money as far as I'm concerned..

250learna
26th May 2005, 08:53
Hehe, ok I agree somewhat :msn-wink: However, even though there are 5 times as many arseholes in Oz, they are spread around the hole more so you in theory, shouldn't come across any greater percentage of arseholes than you would here...

The BIG problems arise when all the arseholes of one country congregate in one area. Thats when the shit hits the fan :killingme

Any idea what percentage of the population, on average, are arseholes? Does this vary greatly between countries? :msn-wink: :D

if this theory is correct, then they must take all the arseholes in japan and export them out, because when i went there i had nothing but plesant experiances with people during the two weeks. And as there is a great amount of ppl in each city, i should have ran into atlest some fuckers :yes:

however i agree with you about stereotypes I know one guy who is from serbia, other from croatia, the two countries were at war at the time and the croatian guy was going to come to our school. Teachers were afraid that the serbian one was gona kill the croatian guy or vice versa... grow up people most of what you think you know about people in other countries is based on factors that are so far out of control of ordenary person that it gives you absolutly no indication of what to expect. Before you make a judgement, live in the country for a year or two and then you can give a worthwhile opinion.

250learna
26th May 2005, 08:56
Any one read DECEPTION POINT by Dan Brown? He's the guy who wrote the da Vinci Code. Anyway there's an interestion point of view about privatising NASA in DECEPTION POINT. Space billboards was mentioned.

Skyryder

i gota say i read all 4 in the series. Bought them individualy then they brought out that 4 book set :brick: Great books, the sort you just cant put down.
And yes i think your right about space bilbords, good spoting :D

Clockwork
26th May 2005, 09:20
If orbital advertising ever happens I'm betting Red Bull will be the first to do it.
That product's advertising budget must be phenomenal. No wonder it costs so much!

Sniper
26th May 2005, 09:34
Sounds stupid

250learna
26th May 2005, 16:15
If orbital advertising ever happens I'm betting Red Bull will be the first to do it.
That product's advertising budget must be phenomenal. No wonder it costs so much!

yeah i agree, and it costs much too much. Lift plus for me thanks :D

Rainbow Wizard
30th May 2005, 22:26
Seems the Bussard Ram Jet that utilises a contolled nuclear reaction is the most viable BUT oh no, it's outlawed in space. Yes folks, we get to retain all those nuclear reactions/explosions/whatever right here on Earth where they might be so contolled by gravity so that the chance of them contaminating space is virtually nil. Clutch those interballistics to your hearts brothers, cause their power epitomises power. Jerkoffs!

Did you know that they had the nuclear thing under wraps for years before they finally had the courage to set one off, seems they thought it might start a chain reaction and change the entire face of the universe.

Do ya reckon with their caution that they succeeded?

What's that quotable quote erroneously attributed to Nelson Mandela? Something about our greatest fear being that we are all powerful. Start the revolution brothers and sisters, BUREAUCRACY IS OUR ENEMY.

Rainbow Wizard
30th May 2005, 22:34
Hehe, ok I agree somewhat :msn-wink: However, even though there are 5 times as many arseholes in Oz, they are spread around the hole more so you in theory, shouldn't come across any greater percentage of arseholes than you would here...

The BIG problems arise when all the arseholes of one country congregate in one area. Thats when the shit hits the fan :killingme
But then I realised I was just passing through! :rofl: