Mobile phones on bikes.

[Biff]

Ms Biff takes great pleasure calling me on my mobile phone when I'm riding my bike. Not that she like to talk to me, oh no, it's because she likes the fact that I 'apparently' make strange noises when I go around tight bends. Noises she's heard twice before in her life. Once during conception of our son, the other during conception of our daughter.

It took me ages to install, but I think you'll agree that my new telecommunications/navigation system on the BiffBird looks the part.

So - how many of you use your mobile phones when riding? Either using a handsfree kit, or a bike audio kit of some description.

[Big Dave]

When riding?!?, shit! I don't even own a mobile phone. Chuck it away, chuck it away.

[inlinefour]

But little does everyone know that when I'm riding, I couldn't give a shyte if my phone rings :D

[Lou Girardin]

Answer calls? Shit, I don't even check for messages.

[bear]

Not too concerned if someone is calling me when riding.
It goes in the pocket and gets checked for messages when I stop for a feed.

[Eurodave]

Beam me up Spock, theres intelligent life here, but not as we know it!!

[bugjuice]

can you text from it tho?

[NC]

Yeah I have txt on a bike and I used to have a hands free kit too. But I had a good reason.. It was work related :P

[John]

I'm so glad that picture was R rated, If I had clicked without adult vision I think I would have being sick... :lol:

[Holy Roller]

So you wont need a bauer system then :killingme

[Virago]

........So - how many of you use your mobile phones when riding? Either using a handsfree kit, or a bike audio kit of some description.
Answered the phone once when stopped at traffic lights - shouted into the phone "I'm on the bike, I'll call you back in 5 minutes". Guy in the cage stopped next me was pissing himself laughing. :whistle:

[Flyingpony]

How can you hear the phone ring when it's in your pocket over the roar of your engine? :spudwhat:

How do you answer it, with voice commands? :spudwow: (since the buttons will be on the phone in your pocket).

[NC]

How can you hear the phone ring when it's in your pocket over the roar of your engine? :spudwhat:
Vibrate..tee hee

[Virago]

How can you hear the phone ring when it's in your pocket over the roar of your engine? :spudwhat:
1) It vibrates,

2) It may not have been in my pocket........ :mobile:

[Waylander]

1) It vibrates,

2) It may not have been in my pocket........ :mobile:

Must have a different set up on your bike. Can't feel the vibrator on my phone most of the time. If I'm on the bike the phone generally gets ignored untill I'm done riding. Even stops for gas and food t waits till I get where I am going or back to my house.

[StoneChucker]

Nah, even I don't answer WHILE I'm riding (text or call). And I think of myself as a very avid cell phone user, check my e-mail on it too if necessary. But even a hands free kit in a car is distracting, so on a bike would be very unsafe imho.

And besides, I have problems enough using a phone in general, trying to talk over the voices in my head.

[SPman]

Texting is a real bastard on the motorway!

[StoneChucker]

Texting is a real bastard on the motorway!
Don't be caught by Hitc, um, never mind :whistle:

[Zed]

...trying to talk over the voices in my head.I had a feeling you were possessed SC.









oh :msn-wink:

[Skyryder]

Hell the only reason I take my cell phone is to let the wife know I'm on the way home and to open the garage door.

Skyryder

[Zed]

...I 'apparently' make strange noises when I go around tight bends. Noises she's heard twice before in her life. Once during conception of our son, the other during conception of our daughter.So is it a strange 'scream' or 'cry' like a baby noise you make when you're going around
the bends?? :baby:


It took me ages to install, but I think you'll agree that my new telecommunications/navigation system on the BiffBird looks the part.Biff, if you came to me and asked me "what do I do if a space-ship lands in my back yard???"
I would answer "get back on!" :D


So - how many of you use your mobile phones when riding? Either using a handsfree kit, or a bike audio kit of some description.I carry my mobile with me, sometimes in my jacket pocket, but I've never felt it vibrate or heard it ringing while riding b4...any calls I answer or make can wait until I'm stopped. I will check the phone for messages regularly if I'm out riding for more than an hour, sometimes *my wife* will phone me just to hear my voice! :love:

[Coyote]

Is there any point to check messeges when you don't get any?

[wkid_one]

This is interesting - to me, a phone is a thing of convenience. Why do people feel compelled to be contactable 24/7? I used to ride the bike to get away from the phone.

Also - why add one more distraction? Studies have already proven that even driving using a hands free kit you are distracted - why play russian roulette with your life by being so stupid as to use one on a bike?

[Zed]

Is there any point to check messeges when you don't get any?If you are with Vodafone you get them, even if you don't have any friends! :whistle:

[Virago]

Texting is a real bastard on the motorway!
My daughter is so good at texting she can text and drive, without looking at the phone at all.

Me, I'm such a good driver, I can text and drive, without looking at the road.......... :whistle:

[StoneChucker]

And another thing, cell phones are just another tool the government uses to watch us! They are watching, always watching :confused:
Proof? Say the bank rings you... They ALWAYS know where to find you! I mean I could have been anywhere, but they find me!

Btw, my cheque is in the mail :msn-wink:


psst, [pt]

[StoneChucker]

My daughter is so good at texting she can text and drive, without looking at the phone at all.

Me, I'm such a good driver, I can text and drive, without looking at the road.......... :whistle:
Hahaha, thats pretty funny...
Me, I'm about 50/50... I glance up to see what it WAS that I hit, then back to my screen! I tell you, NOKIA is to blame for 6% of car accidents, with their silly design of the 3650's circular key pad... Bloody loons!

[wkid_one]

And another thing, cell phones are just another tool the government uses to watch us! They are watching, always watching :confused:
Proof? Say the bank rings you... They ALWAYS know where to find you! I mean I could have been anywhere, but they find me!

Btw, my cheque is in the mail :msn-wink:


psst, [pt]

Interesting theory. Using the triangulation of the cell sites - the police can actually gauge your speed if they were so inclined to do so - or if they had just cause to believe you were speeding.

Remember - turn your phones off when fanging it!

[Eurodave]

[QUOTE=StoneChucker]And another thing, cell phones are just another tool the government uses to watch us! They are watching, always watching :confused:
Proof? Say the bank rings you... They ALWAYS know where to find you! I mean I could have been anywhere, but they find me!

Hey Stonechucker.... Its not that you are paranoid, its just that they are all out to get you eh?!

[Biff]

How can you hear the phone ring when it's in your pocket over the roar of your engine? :spudwhat:

How do you answer it, with voice commands? :spudwow: (since the buttons will be on the phone in your pocket).

I have my mobile wired up to an Autocom unit, along with my MP3 player and radar detector. So I hear the phone ring through the speakers in my helmet, and there's a boom mic that can also be fitted as well. Making calls would be daft, all that fiddly number pressing type action. Especially with gloves on.

In all honesty though I tested the mobile phone once when riding the bike, and I didn't like it one bit. Especially when going around corners. Being a bloke I'm also unable to concentrate on more than one thing at a time. So I'm absolutely amazed I'm still alive considering I'm forever thinking about J.Lo, Kylie, a Morro bar and a hot tub.

[Zed]

Studies have already proven that even driving using a hands free kit you are distractedOf course they are a distraction, you don't need a study to prove that. But wouldn't you say that speaking to a passenger in a car (making eye contact from time to time) is just if not more distracting than talking to someone on a hands-free kit? I think so. Do you think the people that do these studies refrain from conversation in their cars? Lol. Should the government consider outlawing 'talking' in cages?? Sounds like a gem of an idea!! :yes:

[Virago]

..........amazed I'm still alive considering I'm forever thinking about J.Lo, Kylie, a Morro bar and a hot tub.
What, all at the same time? What do you do with the moro bar?

[Coyote]

Mobiles make good cannon fodder

[dhunt]

Of course they are a distraction, you don't need a study to prove that. But wouldn't you say that speaking to a passenger in a car (making eye contact from time to time) is just if not more distracting than talking to someone on a hands-free kit? I think so. Do you think the people that do these studies refrain from conversation in their cars? Lol. Should the government consider outlawing 'talking' in cages?? Sounds like a gem of an idea!! :yes:
Actually I don't think you are right zed. In a cage the passenger sees what is happening and shuts up generally in a tense moment where as the cellphone keeps blabbering on regardless which is more dangerous as it keeps the drives attention.
I'm also pretty sure there has been studies showing this as well but ... you can't believe everything.

[Zed]

In a cage the passenger sees what is happening and shuts up generally in a tense moment...Get real, I've had people screaming loudly in my ear during these tense moments, spilt milkshakes/coffee on me during these tense moments, and God forbid drop cigarettes in the car during these tense moments...give me a hands-free kit over these "distracting" passengers any day!

Btw, you're entitled to say I'm wrong any time you wish Mr Hunt! :msn-wink:

[SPman]

I reckon if you are competent enough to ride a bike briskly, using a cell phone in a car is a piece of piss!

Using a cell phone riding a bike briskly, however.......that would be an ecumenical matter!

and as for txting - fucking gloves !!!!

[dhunt]

Get real, I've had people screaming loudly in my ear during these tense moments, spilt milkshakes/coffee on me during these tense moments, and God forbid drop cigarettes in the car during these tense moments...give me a hands-free kit over these "distracting" passengers any day!

Btw, you're entitled to say I'm wrong any time you wish Mr Hunt!

True zed. I guess in that case I would say the passanger is worse.



I reckon if you are competent enough to ride a bike briskly, using a cell phone in a car is a piece of piss!

Using a cell phone riding a bike briskly, however.......that would be an ecumenical matter!

and as for txting - fucking gloves !!!!
I've seen it done, by a pillion though, no gloves on, going up queen sharlet( sp?) drive down south.

[HDTboy]

I've got my phone set to answer calls with any button, so if I hear/feel it ringing while riding i randomly push buttons through my pockets, people get the idea when they hear the little 250 screaming

[Biff]

What, all at the same time?
Well, depends on what "all" is. But in the same place at the same time? - Hell yeah!


What do you do with the moro bar?

Eat it. I need to keep my energy levels up.
What were you thinking you dirty bugger?

[Biff]

Of course they are a distraction, you don't need a study to prove that. But wouldn't you say that speaking to a passenger in a car (making eye contact from time to time) is just if not more distracting than talking to someone on a hands-free kit?

I tell you what should be made illegal because of the distractions they cause- kids in cars. Especially the ones that fight and scream, shit their pants, puke, drop chocolate/crisps/shit all over the car seats, rip the map, draw a smilie face on the back of the drivers seat with a permanent marker, and especially the ones that breath.

All children should be stapled to skateboards and dragged behind the back of their parent/guardians car by a string of loosely tied elastic bands.

And it should be law that the driver of said car accelerate and brake hard. Often. This procedure is referred to as the YoYo. Alledgedly.

[Crazy Steve]

I use to have an old girl friend that use to ring me while I was riding my bike...

Would try to never answer it while I was riding..Untill one day she told me that i was fcking usless because her old boy friend use to stop and answer his phone while riding his harley..

From that day on my phone sits in my back pocket of my jeans and I answer it when Im not soaking wet and cant take my gloves off..

As im also left handed..I can ride and text at the same time..

However I dont think anyone should do this..As you might bend your bike!!! :yes:

Crazy Steve.

[Skyryder]

Actually I don't think you are right zed. In a cage the passenger sees what is happening and shuts up generally in a tense moment where as the cellphone keeps blabbering on regardless which is more dangerous as it keeps the drives attention.
I'm also pretty sure there has been studies showing this as well but ... you can't believe everything.

You are right. A passanger can see when the driver needs to concentrat on what they are doing or will make allowences for the driver to stop comminicating so that they can concentrate on the road environment. Secondly a driver talking on a cellphone even with a drivers kit is cominicating in excactly the same way as if they were not driving at all.

Sometime ago I came across some research on this very thing. It seems that our brain operates differently according to the neccessary concentration that our surroundings require. When talking on a cell phone when not driving or a landline our concentration is on the conversation and as there is no danger we do not concentrate on our environment. It appears that this behavour becomes habitual with the result that drivers are less focussed on their driving than if they were not talking on a cell phone.

As a bus driver working in the city I have simply lost count of how many times a pedeastrian talking on a cellphone nearly got themselves runover. So it is not just drivers. I will try and find the site.

Skyryder

[Biff]

I use to have an old girl friend that use to ring me while I was riding my bike...

Would try to never answer it while I was riding..Untill one day she told me that i was fcking usless because her old boy friend use to stop and answer his phone while riding his harley..

From that day on my phone sits in my back pocket of my jeans and I answer it when Im not soaking wet and cant take my gloves off..

As im also left handed..I can ride and text at the same time..

However I dont think anyone should do this..As you might bend your bike!!! :yes:

Crazy Steve.

Jim2 - Do you have that troll image handy?

[Crazy Steve]

Really im not..

I am however sori for the way I acted and things that I have said prevoiusly..

Please give me a second chance??

Crazy Steve.

[Indiana_Jones]

I want a handsfree type kit, like Ice Cube in torque :D

-Indy

[Skyryder]

Not the site that I am looking for. Go too

http://www.nsc.org/library/shelf/inincell.htm





Part of

These data demonstrate that the phone conversation itself resulted in significant slowing in the response to simulated traffic signals, as well as an increase in the likelihood of missing these signals. Moreover, the fact that hand-held and hands-free cell phones resulted in equivalent dual-task deficits indicates that the interference was not due to peripheral factors such as holding the phone while conversing. These findings also rule out interpretations that attribute the deficits associated with a cell phone conversation to simply attending to verbal material, because dual-task deficits were not observed in the book-on-tape control. Active engagement in the cell phone conversation appears to be necessary to produce the observed dual-task interference.

The principal findings for this experiment are that: (a) SPs that engaged in cell phone conversations missed twice as many simulated traffic signals as when they were not talking on the cell phone, (b) SPs took longer to react to those signals that they did detect, and (c) these deficits were equivalent for both hand-held and hands-free cell phone users.

In sum, we found that conversing on either a hand-held or hands-free cell phone led to significant decrements in simulated driving performance. We suggest that the cellular phone use disrupts performance by diverting attention to an engaging cognitive context other than the one immediately associated with driving.

Our data suggest that legislative initiatives that restrict hand-held devices but permit hands-free devices are not likely to reduce interference from the phone conversation, because the interference is, in this case, due to central attentional processes.

End


This last sentance is as close as I can find that confirms the findings on the other site.

Skyryder

[NordieBoy]

sometimes *my wife* will phone me just to hear my voice! :love:

Your voice is that good?

[Biff]

Really im not..

I am however sori for the way I acted and things that I have said prevoiusly..

Please give me a second chance??

Crazy Steve.

No problem here dude.
Welcome - again :niceone:

[Skyryder]

This

Q. Is talking on a cell phone any worse than having a conversation with someone in the car?
A.Any activity a driver engages while driving has the potential to distract the driver from the primary task of driving. Some research findings comparing cell phone use to passenger conversations while driving, show each to be equally risky, while others show cell phone use to be more risky. A significant difference between the two is the fact that a passenger can monitor the driving situation along with the driver and pause for, or alert the driver to, potential hazards, whereas a person on the other end of the phone line is unaware of the roadway situation.

from

http://doityourself.com/auto/drivingcellphoneuse.htm

Skyryder

[Virago]

........sometimes *my wife* will phone me just to hear my voice! :love:
Is that phone sex???

[scumdog]

I'm the other way around: my conversation suffers in relation to the amount of concentration I need for the type of driving I'm doing at the time.

A bit of fast driving sees my words dry up completely. (I suppose that's why motorbikes are safer - you can't yap away all day!) :ride:

[Mr Skid]

I want a handsfree type kit, like Ice Cube in torque :D
He's comming for you Indy!
http://digilander.libero.it/fedrotriple2/Aggiornamento_ago2003/torque-promo-01.jpg

[Skyryder]

http://www.drivenowchatlater.com/About_Us.html

Skyryder

[Zed]

A passanger can see when the driver needs to concentrat on what they are doing or will make allowences for the driver to stop comminicating so that they can concentrate on the road environment.Only sometimes is that the case though, you can't generalise that statement. There are many situations where passengers have absolutely no idea that the driver needs them to quiet down and let him concentrate. Passengers such as children, and those who are under the influence are often oblivious to the drivers need for them to shut up! :nono:


Secondly a driver talking on a cellphone even with a drivers kit is cominicating in excactly the same way as if they were not driving at all.You really believe that? So if I'm driving and talking on my cell phone at the same time my method of communicating is as if I wasn't even in my car driving? I thought it was called 'multi-tasking'? :wacko:

[Zed]

Is that phone sex???You've never been in love huh? :hug:

[Skyryder]

Only sometimes is that the case though, you can't generalise that statement. There are many situations where passengers have absolutely no idea that the driver needs them to quiet down and let him concentrate. Passengers such as children, and those who are under the influence are often oblivious to the drivers need for them to shut up! :nono:

You really believe that? So if I'm driving and talking on my cell phone at the same time my method of communicating is as if I wasn't even in my car driving? I thought it was called 'multi-tasking'? :wacko:

We suggest that the cellular phone use disrupts performance by diverting attention to an engaging cognitive context other than the one immediately associated with driving.

*********************************

Not my arguments Zed but others based on their research. Go find some other research that prooves that you can multi task as efficiently as single tasking. Otherwise don't wast my time.

Skyryder

[Virago]

You've never been in love huh? :hug:
Oh, definately, but when the love was that new and exciting, phones had a rotary dial thingy.........

[Skyryder]

Oh, definately, but when the love was that new and exciting, phones had a rotary dial thingy.........

Yes I remember those days. Everything went round and round. Radio dials tuning, volumn etc. I've always said that the world fucked up when it switched from dials to push buttons.

Skyryder

[Zed]

Not my arguments Zed but others based on their research. Go find some other research that prooves that you can multi task as efficiently as single tasking. Otherwise don't wast my time.I see you havn't changed. You just ruined what was becoming a worthwhile debate - there was no need to be rude! :no:

[Virago]

Ms Biff.........likes the fact that I 'apparently' make strange noises when I go around tight bends. Noises she's heard twice before in her life. Once during conception of our son, the other during conception of our daughter....
And on those occasions, where exactly were the tight bends that you were going around? :blink:

[Wolf]

1) It vibrates,
:mobile:
You obviously don't ride a single, then - If I had a vibrating cellphone when on my "Savage" I'd either not realise it was ringing or be constantly trying to answer it even when it wasn't :killingme Usually took half an hour for the coins in my pocket to stop jingling after even a short ride...

[Wolf]

I currently do not even have a cellphone. When I used to carry one in the cage as part of my work and I had to answer calls, I would stop the vehicle as quickly as I safely could to answer the phone.

If I were to get another cellphone it would be for the ability to ring for assistance ("out of go-juice, bring large jerry can") or to impart information ("leaving now, see you in an hour" etc), not to make myself available to other people.

When I had a cellphone I used to carry it when I was on the bike and it came in handy once to get my friend to bring me some petrol, but as to talking on the phone when riding a bike, no thanks, not my scene.

I do not see a personal need to chat on the phone while I'm riding. One of the great pleasures of riding is being out there alone with nothing but self, bike and road - why fuck that up? I actually enjoy not being instantly accessible to people.

I also believe that using a phone while operating a vehicle is a dangerous distraction - to the point that I support any law that makes it illegal (and I'm pretty Libertarian, so I don't often support laws). I get really annoyed at people yakking on phones or texting when they should be driving a car - and most those yakking do not use handsfree kits.

[John]

I get really annoyed at people yakking on phones or texting when they should be driving a car - and most those yakking do not use handsfree kits.

I know what I mean by that, but the problem is that when your talking you are automaticly concentrating more on the conversation rather than the road, as far as I'm concerned cars shouldn't really need to take calls nor bikes.

When I get a call depending on where I am I normally end up doing a quick stop to the side of the road and try answer it, now I just leave it in my bag and text/call the person when I make my next stop, when your riding/driving thats all you should do :yes:

[Big Dave]

I see you havn't changed. You just ruined what was becoming a worthwhile debate - there was no need to be rude! :no:

That wasn't rude - that was correct - rude would be 'Shut the fuck up and drive' - As i occasionally tell people I ride alongside as they wander all over the road and fail to use indicators or change gear because all their hands are busy with the brick to their ear.
I also regularly motion which part of the anatomy they should store it in.

[Lou Girardin]

A bit of fast driving sees my words dry up completely. (I suppose that's why motorbikes are safer - you can't yap away all day!) :ride:

So much for using the R/T during a chase. You're giving away all your secrets now.

[Zed]

That wasn't rude - that was correct - rude would be 'Shut the fuck up and drive' Typical 'Aussie' response (no rudeness intended) :D

[magnum]

if your that keen go all the way and buy a goldwing,oops i see youre nearly there :whistle:

[Big Dave]

Typical 'Aussie' response (no rudeness intended) :D

Quite alright, and to you.

more like 'typical biker response'?

[250learna]

I dont have a kit, but i sure would like one, you dont have to take the call you can just let it ring, but you might need to so its good to have that option. Seems that everytimg i go for a ride i get a few missed calls.
As for txting i dont think that is realy apropriate :nono:

[pyrocam]

I have two methods. if im expecting a call Ill do a handsfree headset dohicky and have it loud. if I need to make a call or get one while at the lights, I press speakerphone on the phone an chuck it in my helmet under me nose.

bit hard to hear sometimes but fun.

On the 22 ride. I got my phone out of my pocket and navigated to the record video bit (really hard with gloves on) while riding and recorded my bike going over the 15000k mark. unfortuantly it couldnt save it because it ran out of memory :(

wouldnt bother txting unless urgent, in which case I would call and put the phone in my helmet..