Police prosecutor caught for speeding. [Archive]

Toaster

14th May 2010, 10:01

Article here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3695919/Queenstown-police-officer-caught-speeding

Good to see this guy is reminded that he is not above the law and is supposed to uphold it.

I am sure he will get a good beating under the code of conduct as well as his fine and the public embarrasment.

A reminder to us that the police do fry their own eggs.

onearmedbandit

14th May 2010, 10:05

A reminder to us that the police do fry their own eggs.

My bitch fries mine.

Ixion

14th May 2010, 10:10

Fry them overhard perhaps. It seems rather harsh.

Dave Lobster

14th May 2010, 10:23

It seems rather harsh.

It's what I got for doing 122km/h near Puhoi.

Ironically, more than you'd get for belting the shit out of one of your children, if you're that way culturally inclined.

duckonin

14th May 2010, 10:55

Ixion

14th May 2010, 11:41

It's what I got for doing 122km/h near Puhoi.

Ironically, more than you'd get for belting the shit out of one of your children, if you're that way culturally inclined.

Well, no, because he gets the suspensiuon, the fine AND maybe loses his job. Most people wouldn't lose their job for that. At worst , need to get a work licence.

Which is why I think it's harsh, the cop gets a lot more grief than other people. It's not like it's corruption or such like where a cop should take a harder hit.

EDIT: 149kph? Just under the speed dangerous kick-in? Hm, wonder how fast he really was going. But in a marked plodmobile, though, whoever pinged him must have been a right cunt, even if he did give him a break on the speed.

Dave Lobster

14th May 2010, 11:59

Well, no, because he gets the suspensiuon, the fine AND maybe loses his job. Most people wouldn't lose their job for that. At worst , need to get a work licence.

On the other hand.. It's just as optional for him to speed as the rest of us. Nobody made him do it.

Big Dave

14th May 2010, 12:29

R6_kid

14th May 2010, 14:34

My bitch fries mine.

You're doing something right, I never got fried eggs!

Coldrider

14th May 2010, 14:40

I thought the limit was 39kph over the limit, 49kphs in a restricted temporary area (road works).

CookMySock

14th May 2010, 15:54

I'd love to see the put-on sad doggy look on his face in front of the judge. Poor poor popo!! :cry:

Yeah right! :tui:

Steve

oldrider

14th May 2010, 16:59

Fry them overhard perhaps. It seems rather harsh.

You have lost me there, why do you think he has been treated harshly? :confused:

imdying

14th May 2010, 17:00

You have lost me there, why do you think he has been treated harshly? :confused:He hasn't yet, but isn't one of the tenets of our justice system to make sure the punishment isn't disproportionate to the crime?

davereid

14th May 2010, 17:27

He hasn't yet, but isn't one of the tenets of our justice system to make sure the punishment isn't disproportionate to the crime?

Yeah, I agree. He should be able to pay the fine and just move on, like anyone else. His job IMHO is not relevant, the law should be applied and that's the end of it.

But this guy might lose his job, seniority, generally be fucked over for something all bikers and most everyone else does every day. There ARE times when we have to expect police to be more cautious than Joe Public about the law, but this is not one of them !

Ixion

14th May 2010, 17:31

Just so. The fundamental requirement that we must place on the police , is that their *honesty* and *integrity* must be above reproach. A cop who fiddles his expenses, or steals or accepts backhanders, should expect the world to come crashing down on him. He has breached the fundmental basis of what he is

But I don't see speeding in that light .That's not a matter of honesty or integrity. Drink driving, maybe, but not speeding. Would we expect a cop who got a parking ticket to risk losing his job because of it?

I'll blow up the cops if I think they deserve it, but I don't subscribe to the "he's a cop so let's gloat when he gets in shit, for whatever reason" .

imdying

14th May 2010, 17:35

Just so. The fundamental requirement that we must place on the police , is that their *honesty* and *integrity* must be above reproach.And if we start taking their jobs over speeding fines, they'll probably just regroup and stop ticketing each other, and that would be an increase in corruption; surely that's a bad thing.

Dave Lobster

14th May 2010, 18:02

But I don't see speeding in that light .That's not a matter of honesty or integrity. Drink driving, maybe, but not speeding. Would we expect a cop who got a parking ticket to risk losing his job because of it?

Nope.. far from it. BUT, if he lost his job as a result, that's what goes with the job rather than the 'crime' commited. The judge doesn't make him lose his job.
Getting a 28 day ban and a $5/600 fine is the same as what everyone else would get. I don't see it as unreasonable.
Yep, we all do it.. we all take that risk. Every now and then you get caught. He's been caught this time.
I'm not gloating any more than when the ginger prick got my licence taken off me.

Ixion

14th May 2010, 18:10

But we don't take the same risk. Not the judge's issue, he just treated him like anyone else. Chop-top should do the same, I reckon. Except for the ginger cunt. He is definately gloating territory.

Usarka

14th May 2010, 20:27

Is the suspension with pay?

He's probably getting a decent paid holiday as compensation for being busted.

Coldrider

14th May 2010, 20:52

Is this is total disqualification, or just the mandatory 28 days, then face the beak for more.
The outcome of losing his licence should be just like the rest of us. Some need licence for work, some don't. Either way the justice should be the same.

Smifffy

14th May 2010, 21:21

Occasionaly guys at work lose their licence (or more correctly are disqualified from driving), and if we can work around them needing to use a vehicle for the duration, all is good, but if their role absolutely requires them to drive then they will need a work licence or they are screwed.

I'd like to think this situation is similar, and that the dude can work around his disqual. Losing one's job over this seems unduly harsh.

Then again the faster you go the bigger the mess apparently. I wonder whether this will help, or hinder his prosecutions of traffic offences in the future?

Maha

14th May 2010, 21:25

What a dick! if only he put the lights on! Where was his head?

CookMySock

14th May 2010, 23:11

But this guy might lose his job, seniority, generally be fucked over for something all bikers and most everyone else does every day. There ARE times when we have to expect police to be more cautious than Joe Public about the law, but this is not one of them !Either he is on work duty, or he is yahooing in the work vehicle - It's one or the other. If he was on work duties, then there is no issue. But he wasn't. He was actually going for a high-speed cane in the work vehicle... cue flushing sound.

Steve

ynot slow

15th May 2010, 09:30

No quota tui anyone.

Bet his the cop who invoiced him feels shit hot,or maybe did give him a leniancy on speed.Absolutely agree should be no leniency re cops breaking speed limits whilst off duty,but think about if we get to 100 demerits and lose license for 3 mths do we get fired.I had to get work license years ago after 28 day stand down,meant two were required if I needed to do my job till limited license was given.

red mermaid

15th May 2010, 10:03

ICE180

15th May 2010, 10:39

hes a lawyer he will find a loop hole in the proceedings if needed

scumdog

15th May 2010, 11:20

CookMySock

15th May 2010, 11:34

hes a lawyer he will find a loop hole in the proceedings if neededYeah but that will look really bad.

Pretty much he's fucked. Good job! :niceone:

Steve

duckonin

15th May 2010, 19:17

A lady friend of mine in the P force down in the south was given a ticket by another in her office (yes she was speeding) whilst she called him a prize prick for doing so she also said she was in the wrong and accepted it..

red mermaid

15th May 2010, 19:33

Dead right, you take the ticket, say thank you, pay it, and never say anything to anyone about it.

A lady friend of mine in the P force down in the south was given a ticket by another in her office (yes she was speeding) whilst she called him a prize prick for doing so she also said she was in the wrong and accepted it..

Kickaha

15th May 2010, 20:11

Absolutely agree should be no leniency re cops breaking speed limits whilst off duty

Then there should be no leniency for anybody

Smifffy

15th May 2010, 20:34

Then there should be no leniency for anybody

There's no leniency for me, but then I'm nobody. ;)

Pixie

16th May 2010, 08:46

If the cop who stopped him had not taken the action he did in issuing the notice, he would now be facing a code of conduct inquiry and probably be in deeper crap as not issuing the notice could be viewed as a corrupt action.

If I understand you correctly,when one cop stops another,the enforcer thinks to himself: "I'd like to let him off but it might be a trap.If I let him off I could get done for "corruption".I better book him.I'll wait a few minutes to see if he can secretly let me know he isn't a management stooge."
The speeding cop thinks "I hope he doesn't book me.He probably thinks I'm a management stooge.How can I secretly let him know I"m not?"
Enforcer: "He's going to force me to book him.The Cunt!"
Speeder: "He's going to book me .The Cunt!"

marty

16th May 2010, 08:57

Yup.

After the big corruption blowout from the aussie police there were significant changed to the requirement to report when dealing with other staff. I got growled somewhat for letting a fellow officer (who subsequently bragged about it) off a 111km/h ticket and headlight out (the primary reason I stopped him actually - 111kmh on SH1 in my patch wasn't usually worth the hassle) so i never warned again - if i identified an offence and stopped someone, they were getting a ticket for it. i didn't give a fuck if they were current member of parliament, commisioner of police, little old grannies, whoever. why should i put MY career at risk because of someone elses stupidity

and when I get a ticket, i just STFU and deal with it.

(and when i say growled i mean fucked in the arse)

nosebleed

16th May 2010, 09:13

Best riding buddy ever was a Police Prosecutor in Tasmania in 1980. Almost immunity unless it was completely off the charts.
Game has changed. I have a pal who is an Inspector of Police now - he's a bit of a nanna on his GSX1400 because it's not worth the career pain otherwise.

...and not because of the fire and brimstone, the limpet mines on corners, or because "it's where all the accidents are happening sir"?

Interesting.

scumdog

16th May 2010, 09:56

...and not because of the fire and brimstone, the limpet mines on corners, or because "it's where all the accidents are happening sir"?

Interesting.

Boring more like it.

Only a newspaper would find that 'interesting'

scumdog

16th May 2010, 09:59

Dead right, you take the ticket, say thank you, pay it, and never say anything to anyone about it.

Hence why I never ask for or write down the offending drivers occupation. (of course in THIS case it was a 'gimme'.)

nosebleed

16th May 2010, 10:47

Boring more like it.

Only a newspaper would find that 'interesting'

Meh. Wet weekend, stuck inside, reports to write. Watching paint dry would be "interesting".

peasea

16th May 2010, 13:49

Yup.

(and when i say growled i mean fucked in the arse)

Common in the force is it?

scumdog

16th May 2010, 17:32

Common in the force is it?

C'mon, ya mean to say ya don't know???

(man, this Talisker is GOOD!)

peasea

16th May 2010, 19:07

C'mon, ya mean to say ya don't know???

(man, this Talisker is GOOD!)

I've been fucked over by a couple of cops, but not actually fucked, so no.

Smifffy

16th May 2010, 20:07

I've been fucked over by a couple of cops, but not actually fucked, so no.

So it was a threesome then?

peasea

17th May 2010, 06:33

So it was a threesome then?

If you include the PCA it was orgy.

Dave Lobster

17th May 2010, 07:42

Common in the force is it?

That's the navy, isn't it?? :)

rastuscat

17th May 2010, 10:50

It's an awful situation, stopping another cop. It puts the stopping cop in a hideous position.

The cop who breaks the law deserves the ticket, as much as anyone else.

The cop who writes the ticket oftens feels guilty for doing so, despite it being the absolutely correct thing to do. The offending cop then has the choice to shut up, but quite often the mouth opens and the cop who did the right thing is suddenly the bad guy.

It creates a rift between the branches, a rift that has existed for decades. Animosity abounds.

And all because the cop who wrote the ticket did the right thing, but the offending cop did the wrong thing.

So there

Skinon

17th May 2010, 13:00

That's the navy, isn't it?? :)

I thought the police motto was 'You're only gay if you push back'?

Jantar

17th May 2010, 13:43

So if I understand the comments so far. If one cop gives another a ticket then he's a prick for doing so. He shouldn't treat his work mates like that.

If he doesn't give the other cop a ticket, then he's a prick for showing favouritism.

Looks like a lose/lose situation to me.

peasea

17th May 2010, 14:34

The cop who writes the ticket oftens feels guilty for doing so
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

What the fuck ever.

Smifffy

17th May 2010, 19:51

Probably cos the speeding cop had his housewarming party on a night the issuing cop was on night shift - the bastard! :rofl: :rofl:

peasea

17th May 2010, 21:05

Probably cos the speeding cop had his housewarming party on a night the issuing cop was on night shift - the bastard! :rofl: :rofl:

Complete with the latest porn lotsa loose women and the bestest drugs ever.

scumdog

18th May 2010, 17:45

Complete with the latest porn lotsa loose women and the bestest drugs ever.

So you WERE at that party!:shit:

I feel however that your efforts at being a loose woman and supplier of the 'bestest' drugs was an epic fail....:whistle::devil2:

peasea

18th May 2010, 17:49

So you WERE at that party!:shit:

I feel however that your efforts at being a loose woman and supplier of the 'bestest' drugs was an epic fail....:whistle::devil2:

You've finished the whole bottle, haven't you?

Smifffy

18th May 2010, 21:06

So you WERE at that party!:shit:

I feel however that your efforts at being a loose woman and supplier of the 'bestest' drugs was an epic fail....:whistle::devil2:

But you have to admit he did great in that porn release, for a few minutes there the other guys in the scene looked like they were actually enjoying it. :rofl: