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gav
23rd May 2005, 18:53
http://1tail.com/2005_GSXR_frame/default.asp
Could just be a one off?
Sensei
23rd May 2005, 19:03
You can see at the bottom of the weld the Porosity & the fact it hasn't penetrated at all . Hopefully just a One off .
StoneChucker
23rd May 2005, 19:08
Shit, I really hope it is a one off - I'm sure it is. All the current top sports bikes have a pretty amazing standard of quality, most of the time.
Coldkiwi
24th May 2005, 13:12
All the current top sports bikes have a pretty amazing standard of quality, most of the time.

Or so we would like to think. Anyone remember a bunch of ZX-10 wheels getting replaced recently... for.... dodgy welding!?

but by crikey.. if its not a one off, how much would a total recall on all K5 gsxr's to get the FRAME replaced cost them!? that'd probably be suzuki's profit obliterated for 2005. Most interesting (only because I don't work for suzuki)- I'll be watching this space!
Sniper
24th May 2005, 14:51
Ooooo. ouch
John
24th May 2005, 15:05
Just imagine the danger on road this could be, makes one shudder to think - I've seen a ZX10R frame torn in one spot (not right through), and that took 150kmph into a stationary object so they arent weak but to have it just 'snap' through G'forces due to weilding man scarey. as CK said, wonder what will come of it - will suzuki pay for everyone to get their frames checked or is it nothing - who knows... time will tell the story..
Lou Girardin
24th May 2005, 15:12
It isn't new, Hyabusa subframes, TL's shock mounts, Speed triple steering heads, Honda cam chains. They just recall 'em and fix 'em, everyone's happy.
Badcat
24th May 2005, 15:29
It isn't new, Hyabusa subframes, TL's shock mounts, Speed triple steering heads, Honda cam chains. They just recall 'em and fix 'em, everyone's happy.

2002 KTM triple clamps too

:(
ManDownUnder
24th May 2005, 15:33
<sorry Lou - SNIP>...everyone's happy.

yeah... aarrrmmm except anyone ending up injured or dead (coz technically dead people aren't happy - just not sad either) but you get my point...
bugjuice
24th May 2005, 15:38
12 O'Clock wheelies probably don't help much either..
DEATH_INC.
24th May 2005, 19:44
Shit,that's a dodgy lookin weld...and if there's one,there'll be many,it's the nature of robots.It almost looks like it's been welded with the wrong grade of filler rod...though it's a bit hard to tell over the net....
Coldkiwi
25th May 2005, 12:51
They just recall 'em and fix 'em, everyone's happy. apart from the suzuki book cookers,shareholders and the bugger that made the muck up on the design/production line
gav
25th May 2005, 18:48
Seen the ZX10R frames coming apart?
http://www.psychobike.com/iB_html/uploads/post-6-76457-zx_10_crack2.jpg
http://www.psychobike.com/iB_html/uploads/post-6-76430-zx_10_crack.jpg
XTC
25th May 2005, 18:59
Had a weld fail on my brand new DRZ in 2000..... Not a structural one but one that made up the oil tank part of the frame.... Suzuki's - cheap but......
DEATH_INC.
25th May 2005, 19:05
Looks like they're just going too damn light for the stresses placed on a roadbike.....bugger!
Matt Bleck
25th May 2005, 19:11
That is fricken scary.

From now on I'm gunna shudder every time I see a K5 gixxer.

And I'd have to say those pic's of the ZX10 ain't much better.

I guess when you keep making em lighter n faster, somethings got ta go wrong eventually.
gav
25th May 2005, 20:22
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2005ama/ppir/1/ppir0513a.JPG
Mind you, you can always do this sort of shit!! :Punk:
Think this kid is gonna be the next big thing, Ben Spies, WT will tell ya!! You know go onto to do GP's and kick Rossi's arse just like that Nicky Hayden kid, and that Bostrom punk, oh hang on........never mind.......
Torque
25th May 2005, 21:21
Just picked up my K5 and spent a while checking over the welds on the bike. I have done a little welding myself and it looks like the welds are just sitting on the sufice and have not penertrated into the frame at all. I phoned my dealer today, they reckon it's a one off but are going to have a chat with suzuki and get back to me. Really cannot beleive they would of got the welding wrong thease days.
Sensei
25th May 2005, 21:43
[QUOTE=gav]http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2005ama/ppir/1/ppir0513a.JPG
Mind you, you can always do this sort of shit!! :Punk:
Think this kid is gonna be the next big thing, Ben Spies, WT will tell ya!! You know go onto to do GP's and kick Rossi's arse just like that Nicky Hayden kid, and that Bostrom punk, oh hang on........never mind.......[/QUOTE


Back wheel lock up going into a corner . Most of us have done this More so the race Guys on here . Nothing to flash there . :whistle:
gav
25th May 2005, 22:13
Yeah right, think they term this backing it in, don't they? Think he's got a bit more control than I usually end up with trying this stuff :niceone:
StoneChucker
25th May 2005, 22:15
Just picked up my K5 and spent a while checking over the welds on the bike. I have done a little welding myself and it looks like the welds are just sitting on the sufice and have not penertrated into the frame at all. I phoned my dealer today, they reckon it's a one off but are going to have a chat with suzuki and get back to me. Really cannot beleive they would of got the welding wrong thease days.
That is not got at all... I hope you're wrong, or there are going to be alot of unhappy K5 Gixxer owners!
I have to agree though, when you try making bikes TOO fast, and TOO light without maintaining the most strict quality control possible, that is where you run into problems, like these might be!