5K service for a Suzuki VL250 for $450? [Archive]

snake832

17th May 2010, 20:03

Smifffy

17th May 2010, 20:06

Katman

17th May 2010, 20:08

A 5000km service is basically just an oil change.

Did the bike have it's 1000km service?

Fatt Max

17th May 2010, 20:09

Yeah, $450 all up is what I was charged a year agon on my VL. To be fair, they do a good job down there so its worth the dollars.

There are always cheaper options but my personal attitude is the dealer knows best........and they will look after you in the future, I can testify to that.

Good luck

snake832

17th May 2010, 20:11

Hi Katman,

Yeah, the lady who owned the bike before me got it serviced at 1000km - then probably off'd herself after paying. Sometimes it's hard being a student. :(

Mully

17th May 2010, 20:29

Hi Katman,

Yeah, the lady who owned the bike before me got it serviced at 1000km - then probably off'd herself after paying. Sometimes it's hard being a student. :(

Are 1000km services not free. The 1500km ones in my cars have all been free.

nosebleed

17th May 2010, 20:53

Are 1000km services not free. The 1500km ones in my cars have all been free.

1500k car services are just 'look-overs' with fluid top ups (if required). The 1000k service on my bike included an oil/filter change.

trailblazer

17th May 2010, 21:48

i personally think it's a bit expensive. My 1000k service on my hyo was $105 and i have just had the equivalent to a 5000k service done on my bike at 3800k as it was 6month up and that only cost me $130 and both of those services were done at at a suzuki dealer. What does colemen's do that other shops don't.

Kirill357

18th May 2010, 06:24

Bollocks. My ZX14 5000 service was around $250 mark, and thats with authorized Kawasaki dealer in Spectrum Motorcycles

hellokitty

18th May 2010, 06:43

I was told $300 for my 1000km service when I had my Intruder. I bought the bike new from Colemans.
I ended up selling it at 1100km

TimeOut

18th May 2010, 07:13

$450 is far too much, it should be oil and filter change and a check over.
My 24 000 km service only cost $300 and that included valve clearances at a Suzuki dealer
I did the rest of the services myself (except the 1000k) and it didn't affect the warranty

BoristheBiter

18th May 2010, 07:37

Way too much, if i remember my gixxer was around the 250-300 (had oggie nobs put on) mark from Haldane's.
I have had very good service from them so far. Me and the mrs used to use Coleman and found they were good but ther were the most expensive.
Haldane's is a Suzuki dealer as well.

duckonin

18th May 2010, 08:57

If they charge out at $75 per hour for six hours =$450 I would wonder what they are going to do..

Oil change, check and tighten nuts and bolts, Valve clearences, check the air pressure in your tyres, have a cuppa then lunch later on go to the shops for a doughnut, can do a lot of work in six hours, I would think that is excessive maybe two hours at the most, oil is draining while the valves are being done ect ect.. Oil and filter may account for $100 even that is a bit rich, so if you want to save a bit of dosh buy your oil and filter do that part of the service yourself..

Re read your post no valves done at 5000 k's I think they are done at 12,000 so WTF..$450 nope.

roadracingoldfart

18th May 2010, 09:17

Hell i will do a full service on ya late model Falcon for $450.00 . And that includes almost 7 litres of oil.

Mudfart

18th May 2010, 09:23

my 4k service is 1000kms away on my kwaka. im gonna make that 200kms less today.

The Baron

18th May 2010, 10:25

Whats this 5k service? Is it not - 1k - 6k - 12k - 18k etc? Just seems a bit keen or is it in the handbook?

miloking

18th May 2010, 12:22

Hey guys,

Rang up the place where I bought my VL250 a year ago as it was due for its 5k service. The quote they gave me was $450 which covered "service + WOF". My bike is under warranty for a few years yet, so I have to use an authorized Suzuki dealer. Is what Coleman's charging me too expensive? Have I been had? Are there better alternatives?

My bike is going in tomorrow morning so who ever is trolling around - let me know.

Cheers.

Man the fuck up and service it yourself!... especialy if you are student!

get online manual and check what needs to be done for each service period and you will save tons of money(obviously)...also if you keep receipts for the parts(oil/filter) and dont fuck it up it wont affect the warranty (like realy, no matter what bullshit will dealer try to tell you)

But if you do decide to go and get shafted for half a grand (i bet that quoted 450 is without GST) , get printed out detailed reciept and question anything out of ordinary....2 hours labour max + oil (about 3L) + filter (about $18) + inspection of few things

(here is a schedule for my CBR, and as you can see 4K mile and even 8K mile service is fuck all to do just oil change and some "I"s for "inspection" of few things...)

Also..DONT TRUST dealers they are dodgey as hell..(or as mentioned on another thread they are thieving cunts)

Lurch

18th May 2010, 13:46

Man the fuck up and service it yourself!... especialy if you are student!

Hell yeah, listen to this guy!

If you're a student you don't have to worry about the 2 year manufacturer warranty, as if anything ever goes wrong with a motocycle anyway! There's a fair chance that Suzuki would feel sorry for you as a student and sort any possible claim out regardless of wether you did the first oil change or not! I know a guy who knows a guy who read a service manual for one of these once and he'd be glad to sort you out for your 24,000k service and do the valve clearances etc too.

/sarcasm off

miloking

18th May 2010, 14:24

Hell yeah, listen to this guy!

If you're a student you don't have to worry about the 2 year manufacturer warranty, as if anything ever goes wrong with a motocycle anyway! There's a fair chance that Suzuki would feel sorry for you as a student and sort any possible claim out regardless of wether you did the first oil change or not! I know a guy who knows a guy who read a service manual for one of these once and he'd be glad to sort you out for your 24,000k service and do the valve clearances etc too.

/sarcasm off

Its a fricken VL250 not a space fuking shuttle! it has like 3 moving parts in it! Also its not his first oil change...it should have had first at 1K.
You guys are bunch of sorry as excuse for "bikers" pussies...cant even change oil and check tyre pressure yourself (i bet you are the type that gets gas station attendants to pump your gas and wash your windscreen too when you are driving your toyota prius to local cafe on a "drizzly" day)
Tell you what bring it here and i will get my granny to do oil change on your bikes (she has some time between baking a cakes and knitting)
What has this world come too....

dipshit

18th May 2010, 15:27

My bike is under warranty for a few years yet, so I have to use an authorized Suzuki dealer.

No you don't. That is a bullshit con motorcycle dealers in NZ have going. They bullshit its customers into believing they need to use their authorised dealers for the services during the warranty period to keep it valid and then charge top dollar for the services.

You can get any workshop to do the work or do it yourself providing you keep a record of the work and receipts of parts and oil used etc for proof that the required services were carried out at the mileage specified.

breakaway

18th May 2010, 15:27

For $450, they better provide a thai hooker that will suck and fuck me as they service my bike.

Blew

18th May 2010, 15:29

A 5000km service is basically just an oil change.

Did the bike have it's 1000km service?

Just rung Nelson Suzuki dealer VL 250 has valve clearance check at all its services, being a v twin it is like do clearances on 2 singles.

Blew

18th May 2010, 15:31

No you don't. That is a bullshit con motorcycle dealers in NZ have going. They bullshit its customers into believing they need to use their authorised dealers for the services during the warranty period to keep it valid and then charge top dollar for the services.

You can get any workshop to do the work or do it yourself providing you keep a record of the work and receipts of parts and oil used etc for proof that the required services were carried out at the mileage specified.

And if your servicing has any thing to do with a failure you wish fixed under warranty you will be referred back to the person who serviced it.

Maha

18th May 2010, 15:34

Whats this 5k service? Is it not - 1k - 6k - 12k - 18k etc? Just seems a bit keen or is it in the handbook?

Maybe cruisers are special?
My 6000K service last year cost me $174.
I posted this yesterday in a similar thread about Colmans.

Blinkwing

18th May 2010, 15:38

On a related note ... does anyone have a PDF copy of the VL250 manual so I can learn/try myself what needs doing (for next service).

I purchased one that just had its 24k service done off Trademe & the guy said it didn't come with a manual when he bought it from Colemans. I've clocked up 280km so far.

Hiflyer

18th May 2010, 15:40

I'd say a max of $270. My hyosung had a service round 5k or 6k and they replaced the 2 sets of front brake pads, did everything else as you would for a service, and it was $270. For $450 they'd better be gold plating the bloody bike! I'd say service it yourself, or get someone from here who would be able to help you with the right tools etc. I'm sure the SMC would be able to help you out!

dipshit

18th May 2010, 16:01

And if your servicing has any thing to do with a failure you wish fixed under warranty you will be referred back to the person who serviced it.

Of course... just like any work carried out on a bike any time in its life... warranty period or not.

Anybody working on their own bike at any time has no comeback if their own spanner work causes a problem. This is one advantage of going to a registered mechanic for work. You have a comeback on them if they caused a problem. So why should this put someone off doing an oil and filter change on their new bike as opposed to any other time..??

Crasherfromwayback

18th May 2010, 16:05

Its a fricken VL250 not a space fuking shuttle! it has like 3 moving parts in it! ....

Only 3 ya reckon? It's a VL250 mate...not a rotary.

miloking

18th May 2010, 16:34

Only 3 ya reckon? It's a VL250 mate...not a rotary.

Well yeah it was just a joke to make a point...its more like 7 or 8 parts max:D

Crasherfromwayback

18th May 2010, 16:39

Well yeah it was just a joke to make a point...its more like 7 or 8 parts max:D

Probably find a VL250 has more moving parts than the Space Shuttle mate! After all...that's just a couple of huge fuck right off fuel tanks and an ignighter!

miloking

18th May 2010, 16:41

And if your servicing has any thing to do with a failure you wish fixed under warranty you will be referred back to the person who serviced it.

Yes of course, thats why "do it yourself" but dont fuck it up!...meaning if you are doing oil change, put in correct oil/correct amount/correct filter...dont forget to tighten sump plug etc. :D but still its fricking oil change aka...take plug out->drain->put plug back->fill..done!
hardly anything that would justify $450 also if later on wheels "fall off" or "blinker fluid leaks out" it has nothing to do with servicing and is covered under warranty....

miloking

18th May 2010, 16:42

Probably find a VL250 has more moving parts than the Space Shuttle mate! After all...that's just a couple of huge fuck right off fuel tanks and an ignighter!

Space shuttle has approx 3 milion parts, hardly budget suzuki cruiser with 2(3,4..?) decades old vtwin :D

yachtie10

18th May 2010, 16:46

Probably find a VL250 has more moving parts than the Space Shuttle mate! After all...that's just a couple of huge fuck right off fuel tanks and an ignighter!

so how much would you charge for this service?

I would love your take on the "need to be serviced bu dealer to maintain warrrranty arguement"

Blew

18th May 2010, 16:49

Yes of course, thats why "do it yourself" but dont fuck it up!...meaning if you are doing oil change, put in correct oil/correct amount/correct filter...dont forget to tighten sump plug etc. :D but still its fricking oil change aka...take plug out->drain->put plug back->fill..done!
hardly anything that would justify $450 also if later on wheels "fall off" or "blinker fluid leaks out" it has nothing to do with servicing and is covered under warranty....

But if you only change the oil and the valves burn out it will not be covered by warranty or the poor 3rd party service person who you only asked to do an oil change.

Blew

18th May 2010, 16:52

so how much would you charge for this service?

I would love your take on the "need to be serviced bu dealer to maintain warrrranty arguement"

Read the many volumes of laws relating to anticompetitive behaviour or better still pay a $600.00 an hour lawyer to advise you.

miloking

18th May 2010, 16:53

But if you only change the oil and the valves burn out it will not be covered by warranty or the poor 3rd party service person who you only asked to do an oil change.

Why would the valves burn out? Unless you are doing modifications to fueling or air intakes/exhaust etc....and yes that will void warranty, nothing to do with overpriced servicing!
When dealer says they will do "service"...it mostly just means oil change and few "tyre kicks"....

Crasherfromwayback

18th May 2010, 16:55

so how much would you charge for this service?

I would love your take on the "need to be serviced bu dealer to maintain warrrranty arguement"

I can ask our service department if you like. But from memory, the VL is supposed to have valve clearances done every service.

As far as the warranty bit...my take has always been the same. I think it's entirely up to the owners. It's only ever a problem if the thing shits it's self. And then only if it can be proven that it was poor workmanship that caused the failure. I never try and 'scare' my customers into the old "it must be serviced by us".

Blew

18th May 2010, 17:02

Why would the valves burn out? Unless you are doing modifications to fueling or air intakes/exhaust etc....and yes that will void warranty, nothing to do with overpriced servicing!
When dealer says they will do "service"...it mostly just means oil change and few "tyre kicks"....

Valve clearance change as the engine ages, the old lead in the leaded fuel helped cushion the valve as hit came back to the seat.
If the valve clearances become tight the may be burnt by the ignition of fuel as the flame under pressure passes the valve.

dipshit

18th May 2010, 17:06

But if you only change the oil and the valves burn out it will not be covered by warranty or the poor 3rd party service person who you only asked to do an oil change.

The servicing still needs to be carried out to the manufacturer's requirements and intervals. Like my bike doesn't require a valve clearance check until 24,000 km. If a valve burns out at 10,000 km then it is a warranty issue regardless if I have changed the oil myself or not.

Blew

18th May 2010, 17:12

The servicing still needs to be carried out to the manufacturer's requirements and intervals. Like my bike doesn't require a valve clearance check until 24,000 km. If a valve burns out at 10,000 km then it is a warranty issue regardless if I have changed the oil myself or not.

But if your valve clearances are due at 6k and you choose to have an oil change only done at that time and you have a running problem relating to incorrect valve operation or valve burn out at 8k do not complain when you have to pay for the repair.

dipshit

18th May 2010, 17:21

But if your valve clearances are due at 6k and you choose to have an oil change only done at that time and you have a running problem relating to incorrect valve operation or valve burn out at 8k do not complain when you have to pay for the repair.

No shit...

Blew

18th May 2010, 17:24

No shit...

Dipshit...........

rok-the-boat

18th May 2010, 18:07

Warranties are just a scam to get you to take the bike to the dealer for an expensive service.

Crasherfromwayback

18th May 2010, 19:05

Warranties are just a scam to get you to take the bike to the dealer for an expensive service.

THAT is 100% bollocks. We by no means have to offer fuck all in the way of warranties with used bikes, but do offer really good ones for peace of mind for the customer. New bike warranties are well valuable, as if a new bike is going to fail, it's normally through bad assembly etc. Without a warranty...you'd be fucked. You wanna buy a bike without any sort of warranty? No worries. It's called Trademe. And LOTS of people get burnt buying someone elses problems that way.

Gubb

18th May 2010, 19:31

I just paid $711 for a 20k Service.

I figure the best way to avoid it, and related costs is to just not ride it. Much cheaper in the long run.

You wanna ride it? you gotsta pay the price.

duckonin

18th May 2010, 20:00

I just paid $711 for a 20k Service.

I figure the best way to avoid it, and related costs is to just not ride it. Much cheaper in the long run.

You wanna ride it? you gotsta pay the price.

Gubb did that include new tyres?

Jantar

18th May 2010, 20:06

The 6000K service on my VStrom cost $158, and that included a small extra item from the shop.

Crazy Steve

18th May 2010, 20:53

The whole lot of you are fckers ! ! !

While I lived in the UK I had an 1999 Busa and I brought it at 9,000Miles....I rode it till 111,000Miles and NEVER CHANGED THE OIL/PLUGS OR FILTERS..

I brought tyres/chains and Gas.....Thats it for 102,000Miles (NO FCKIN SERVICING AT ALL)

I'm fckin laughing my Tits off right now hearing you pussies talking dribble about a 5K service....

Now get to bed you fckin HOMO'S.

Crazy Steve.

Lurch

18th May 2010, 20:55

The whole lot of you are fckers ! ! !

While I lived in the UK I had an 1999 Busa and I brought it at 9,000Miles....I rode it till 111,000Miles and NEVER CHANGED THE OIL/PLUGS OR FILTERS..

I brought tyres/chain and Gas.....Thats it for 102,000Miles (NO FCKIN SERVICING AT ALL)

I'm fckin laughing my Tits off right now hearing you pussies talking dripple about a 5K service....

Now get to bed you fckin HOMO'S.

Crazy Steve.

How many GN250's did you get passed by?

Crazy Steve

18th May 2010, 20:59

How many GN250's did you get passed by?

I have a speeding ticket at 196Mph that I collected on the M25 before I left the Uk, Didn't see any Gn250's pass me that day ! !

Crazy Steve.

miloking

18th May 2010, 21:57

miloking

18th May 2010, 22:01

Valve clearance change as the engine ages, the old lead in the leaded fuel helped cushion the valve as hit came back to the seat.
If the valve clearances become tight the may be burnt by the ignition of fuel as the flame under pressure passes the valve.

What are those valves you are talking about made out of ...zinc? You should buy bikes with titanium valves...those wont burn :) money saved right there....

trailblazer

18th May 2010, 22:01

ask coleman's suzuki what they are doing for the $450 and go get a quote from haldanes and compare. Not everyone has the no how or the time to service or work on there bikes
which is no crime. But coleman suzuki wanting to charge $450 for a 6k service that just a rip off.

Woodman

18th May 2010, 22:37

There has been a few court cases re servicing and warranties, and the outcome is that you don't void a warranty if you get the vehicle serviced elsewhere, even if you use non genuine parts. Car dealers are shocking for telling new car customers that they must get it serviced by them, use genuine parts etc otherwise their warranties will be voided. They know its crap and has beeen for a long time, but they still do it.
$450 sounds too much, but I would shop around othe suzi dealers.

jasonzc

18th May 2010, 23:44

Hey guys..
is it just me... or does the 450 inc WOF? if so.. makes sense

I had mine VL there for the 5K. paid 350ish.. but does a wof really costs 100?
I belived they did remove the tank to take a looky at the valves or sth.. But def removed the tank or sth.

Overal they did a bloody fantastical job. Was in better condition than when i brought her in.

It was only till later that i found out that Holeshot over the bridge only chargers around 200 for each service and im with them now.
Not to bag them or anyting.. when i asked what each service involved they gave me a 'uh... i mean... err.. 5k ... the usuall... similar to ur first service'
WHere as Colemans guy went through the hole list... but that just confused me cause didnt understand half of the things that he said. (im mechanically dumb). Seemed slightly more proffesh.

HOWEVER Holeshot still did a great job for my 10k service. Ill do the 15k myself. Hopefully ill get to upgrade after that and wont have to worry bout the 20K.

PS

The vl has a strange schedual, its 1k 5k 10k 15k 20k then every 10k.

duckonin

19th May 2010, 10:03

I have a speeding ticket at 196Mph that I collected on the M25 before I left the Uk, Didn't see any Gn250's pass me that day ! !

Crazy Steve.

Yep that was that day, what about the other 364 days ?

Gubb

19th May 2010, 23:24

Gubb did that include new tyres?

Nope.

Work shop Consumables - $10
Shell Coolant - $25 (2 Litres)
Oil Filter - $36.90
Triumph Fault Diagnosis - $45.00
Shell Advance SX4 Engine Oil - $55.50 (3 Litres)
Spark Plug NGK - $59.70 ($19.90 each)
Air filter - $89.00
Valve Clearances - $120.00
Platinum Service - $270.00
GST - $79.01
TOTAL - $711.10

miloking

19th May 2010, 23:31

Platinum Service - $270.00

WTF is platinum service?? i think thats where you got shafted buddy...(unless thats the part where asian hooker comes in while you wait) rest seems legit (apart from the fault dignosis for $45...not neccesary to be done if there are no problems with bike and takes like 5 seconds to be done! oh and the air filter for $89 that better be K&N or BMC reusable one! and oil filter for $36 that beter be two filters...lol - ok whole thing is a fucking rip if you ask me....)

Gubb

19th May 2010, 23:36

WTF is platinum service?? i think thats where you got shafted buddy...(unless thats the part where asian hooker comes in while you wait) rest seems legit (apart from the fault dignosis for $45...not neccesary to be done if there are no problems with bike and takes like 5 seconds to be done! oh and the air filter for $89 that better be K&N or BMC reusable one! and oil filter for $36 that beter be two filters...lol - ok whole thing is a fucking rip if you ask me....)

Eat a cock.

I haven't been whinging about the price I paid, I merely posted it as a response to the OP. I wanted the work done, and I paid for it. I will also be going back to the shop that did it in the future. If your dead keen i'm sure I could list everything they have in their 'platinum service', but I honestly can't be fucked.

They also gave me a 2010 Triumph for the day as a Loaner.

I suggest that if you are the one wanting the asian hooker, you're looking in the wrong place.

miloking

19th May 2010, 23:45

Eat a cock.

I haven't been whinging about the price I paid, I merely posted it as a response to the OP. I wanted the work done, and I paid for it. I will also be going back to the shop that did it in the future. If your dead keen i'm sure I could list everything they have in their 'platinum service', but I honestly can't be fucked.

They also gave me a 2010 Triumph for the day as a Loaner.

I suggest that if you are the one wanting the asian hooker, you're looking in the wrong place.

No thanks (the generous cock offer)...also i know you were not whinging i was merely saying that you have more money than sense if you are happy to pay those prices and call it good service!

but let me guess...platinum service, has following items:

Blinker fluid flush and top up
Bearing oil replacement
(and muffler bearing replacement)
parking brake adjustment
etc.?

still at $270 there better be some hooker somewhere in it (if asian is not your thing)

Gubb

19th May 2010, 23:47

No thanks (the generous cock offer)...also i know you were not whinging i was merely saying that you have more money than sense if you are happy to pay those prices and call it good service!

but let me guess...platinum service, has following items:

Blinker fluid flush and top up
Bearing oil replacement
(and muffler bearing replacement)
parking brake adjustment
etc.?
Yep, I also had my powerband replaced.

So there.

nosebleed

20th May 2010, 00:44

Yep, I also had my powerband replaced.

So there.

Mean. for that price I'd have thought they'd only only tighten it.

miloking

20th May 2010, 07:30

Mean. for that price I'd have thought they'd only only tighten it.

Well those powerbands dont come cheap so they are only replaced when you get "diamond service" but i guess Gubb has some connections on getting such a deals....

outlawtorn

21st May 2010, 16:47

Genie

21st May 2010, 16:51

davereid

21st May 2010, 16:56

I thought it was very expensive for a simple service. If your vehicle is under warranty, getting it serviced at a franchise shop is NOT required to ensure warranty remains valid, you just have to be able to show it was serviced to manufacturers requirements. In general, if it was serviced by an M.T.A. (NZ Only) or I.A.M.E workshop (AU/NZ) to manufacturers specification, your warranty should be intact.

Out of warranty.. learn to do-it-yourself.

Maybe KB members could organise a DIY service tutorial ? I would volunteer my workshop if it helps.

dipshit

21st May 2010, 17:00

Mate you will always pay through your arse for your services at Colemans... .... That being said I will now start doing my own services because my bike is going to be just over 2 years when it is due for the next service.

2 years..? So I guess their... "you have to have your bike serviced at an authorised dealer to keep your warranty valid" bullshit line worked on you then.? No wonder they can feel they can charge what they like.

Blew

21st May 2010, 17:03

I thought it was very expensive for a simple service. If your vehicle is under warranty, getting it serviced at a franchise shop is NOT required to ensure warranty remains valid, you just have to e able to show it was serviced to manufacturers requirements. In general, if it was serviced by an M.T.A. (NZ Only) or I.A.M.E workshop (AU/NZ) to manufacturers specification, your warranty should be intact.

Out of warranty.. learn to do-it-yourself.

Maybe KB members could organise a DIY service tutorial ? I would volunteer my workshop if it helps.

Maybe you could price the service and list what you would do in your workshop to Manufacturers specification as well.

dipshit

21st May 2010, 17:07

In general, if it was serviced by an M.T.A. (NZ Only) or I.A.M.E workshop (AU/NZ) to manufacturers specification, your warranty should be intact.

The only requirement if it came down to a court dispute... is that the service was done by someone competent.

That right there excludes a couple of my local Suzuki dealer workshops. :oi-grr:

davereid

21st May 2010, 17:10

Maybe you could price the service and list what you would do in your workshop to Manufacturers specification as well.

I'd certainly be happy to offer some guidelines as to doing what ever you had to do to your bike. Most of it is well within the reach of a normal motorcyclist.

Blew

21st May 2010, 17:14

Just a fun link for all you self employed experts to play with over the weekend. Be good to see your results

http://www.business.govt.nz/Finance-and-grants/Setting-prices-and-terms-of-trade/Your-charge-out-rate-calculator.aspx

Old Steve

21st May 2010, 19:54

I've got a 5 year old Hyosung GV250, bought it on TradeMe at just over 9,000 km. Had it delivered to my local Hyosung dealer and serviced as I wasn't sure of its passed service history. For $360 I got a 9,000 km service, a pair of motorcycle pants, some aerosol chain lube and a couple of other items from the shop. Hyosungs have services at 1k, then every 4k.

I'll be clicking over 4,000 km on the bike in just 12 weeks this weekend, so I've bought an oil filter ($28, and shit it's small!!!) and a carton of ten Total 1L synthetic 4t engine oil packs at $10 incl GST each. I'll be doing my own oil and filter change and lubes of the appropriate points.

I did have the front and rear sprockets changed and a new chain fitted at 12,000km, and had a Scottoiler fitted at the same time. That was an expense which came around a little earlier than I expected, expected but came earlier than I'd have liked. I figure I'll be ahead on the cost of the Scottoiler within 12,000 km or at least get my money back if I sell the bike.

Bottom line, I wouldn't pay $450 for a service, even on a new bike.

outlawtorn

21st May 2010, 21:21

2 years..? So I guess their... "you have to have your bike serviced at an authorised dealer to keep your warranty valid" bullshit line worked on you then.? No wonder they can feel they can charge what they like.

Bullshit or not mate, I don't know the first thing about servicing a bike, so I'll leave it to the professionals. Saying that, once I can start servicing it myself, I have a few mates who have a good technical knowledge of bikes to lend me a hand.

geoffc

21st May 2010, 23:19

Way over the top. Figure it out. How the h.ll could it cost $450? $175 max. Phone around mate.

madkiwi

22nd May 2010, 08:41

brought my 1000 from them as well, they did the first 2 services before i learnt, now i ride down to boyds in hamilton, good ride as well

rok-the-boat

22nd May 2010, 13:38

THAT is 100% bollocks. We by no means have to offer fuck all in the way of warranties with used bikes, but do offer really good ones for peace of mind for the customer. New bike warranties are well valuable, as if a new bike is going to fail, it's normally through bad assembly etc. Without a warranty...you'd be fucked. You wanna buy a bike without any sort of warranty? No worries. It's called Trademe. And LOTS of people get burnt buying someone elses problems that way.

I have to laugh at a lot of you guys. If you are rich enough to buy a new bike then I suppose you are rich enough to get shafted with expensive service costs. I have been riding 35 years and have always bought secondhand and have never taken any of the many bikes I have owned to a dealer for a service. I do my mates' bikes for free. Spend your service money on a on a toolkit and discover the joy of DIY.

Crasherfromwayback

22nd May 2010, 13:45

I have to laugh at a lot of you guys. If you are rich enough to buy a new bike then I suppose you are rich enough to get shafted with expensive service costs. I have been riding 35 years and have always bought secondhand and have never taken any of the many bikes I have owned to a dealer for a service. I do my mates' bikes for free. Spend your service money on a on a toolkit and discover the joy of DIY.

Warranties come with cheap used bikes too mate. And you don't have to tell me about the joys of working on your own. I was a mechanic before I got into the bike industry. Just make sure you don't make an expensive fuck up on one of your mates bikes. Best way ever to lose a good mate!

BoristheBiter

22nd May 2010, 18:50

I have to laugh at a lot of you guys. If you are rich enough to buy a new bike then I suppose you are rich enough to get shafted with expensive service costs. I have been riding 35 years and have always bought secondhand and have never taken any of the many bikes I have owned to a dealer for a service. I do my mates' bikes for free. Spend your service money on a on a toolkit and discover the joy of DIY.

So you have the time and/or skill to do it yourself good for you, many on here don't have the skill or time to do it.
I have had the fun of DIY when i was at school working on cars and bikes with a bunch of mates and all I can say is it sucks arse. if you want to save money than by all means do it yourself, that is not what this thread is about.
This thread is about getting value for money from a workshop, whether that be a dealer or not.
if you charge out your services then tell us how much and when we can drop our bikes.

hellokitty

22nd May 2010, 18:58

Warranties come with cheap used bikes too mate. And you don't have to tell me about the joys of working on your own. I was a mechanic before I got into the bike industry. Just make sure you don't make an expensive fuck up on one of your mates bikes. Best way ever to lose a good mate!

Best way to lose a husband too........... a mate adjusted the chain on hubby's bike and it snapped while he was riding it......

dipshit

22nd May 2010, 21:19

Saying that, once I can start servicing it myself,...

But you don't have to wait for the warranty period to be over. You can do the simpler services like oil and filter changes yourself or go to any mechanic you please for bigger jobs you may not feel confident enough tackling.

The only requirement to keep the warranty valid is that the services get done.

AllanB

22nd May 2010, 21:58

Personally $450 for the 'service' is excessive. I'd ask them to explain exactly what is being done for that money.

Really you'd be 1.5 hours tops - lets say 2 hours @ 75 -80 bucks per - $160, oil, filer & 'sundries' heck I can't even get to to half $450!!!!!

ukusa

22nd May 2010, 23:10

What's all this 5 & 6k service crap? The Trumpy's barely
warmed up then,it"ll happily wait for 10k. Only cost $212
as well for first service, havn't had a 2nd yet.

jasonzc

23rd May 2010, 00:52

to be fair to colemans,

maybe like, 90-100 bux goes towards the WOF..

but then.. thats quite steep as well..

quickbuck

23rd May 2010, 01:13

What's all this 5 & 6k service crap? The Trumpy's barely
warmed up then,it"ll happily wait for 10k. Only cost $212
as well for first service, havn't had a 2nd yet.

May be so, for your Triumph... Then it isn't a little 250 is it???....
Different bikes have different service intervals.
All depends on how confident the manufacturer is... and Marketing (Well, actually extended service intervals are a marketing thing in Aviation).

ukusa

23rd May 2010, 10:43

May be so, for your Triumph... Then it isn't a little 250 is it???....
Different bikes have different service intervals.
All depends on how confident the manufacturer is... and Marketing (Well, actually extended service intervals are a marketing thing in Aviation).

realise that, so doing the math, 1 x Trumpy @ 10k/year = $212. 1 x Suzi 250 @ 10K/year = 2 Colemans visits @ $450 ea. = $900 (admittedly includes a WOF, but I only pay $25 for the wof anyway). 5 or 6 K just seems so low, hardley a summer really.

Katman

23rd May 2010, 14:44

to be fair to colemans,

maybe like, 90-100 bux goes towards the WOF..

but then.. thats quite steep as well..

:blink:

I charge $30 for my WOFs.

duckonin

23rd May 2010, 14:48

to be fair to colemans,

maybe like, 90-100 bux goes towards the WOF..

but then.. thats quite steep as well..

$45 at VTNZ or was five months back..

quickbuck

23rd May 2010, 15:48

$45 at VTNZ or was five months back..

Yeah, still that.....
Even if I pay $100 for a WOF, it is cheaper than taking my ute there!!!!

Only go to bike shops for a WOF on my bike.... (Usually needs a tyre anyway).,

bittertwistedcute

23rd May 2010, 19:19

That frightens me more than negotiating a fair price with a workshop

Best way to lose a husband too........... a mate adjusted the chain on hubby's bike and it snapped while he was riding it......

dipshit

23rd May 2010, 20:50

realise that, so doing the math, 1 x Trumpy @ 10k/year = $212. 1 x Suzi 250 @ 10K/year = 2 Colemans visits @ $450 ea. = $900 (admittedly includes a WOF, but I only pay $25 for the wof anyway). 5 or 6 K just seems so low, hardley a summer really.

A lot of those 6k services on a Suzuki are just an oil change. I am surprised a manufacturer is okay with having their bikes go 10,000 km between oil changes. But I suppose it lets their owners brag about their longer service intervals. :shifty:

AllanB

23rd May 2010, 22:41

A lot of those 6k services on a Suzuki are just an oil change. I am surprised a manufacturer is okay with having their bikes go 10,000 km between oil changes. But I suppose it let's their owners brag about their longer service intervals. :shifty:

Ducatis are on 10k servicing now. My Honda manual actually states 12k for oil/filter (I do mine every 6 as that is once a year for me). Triumph state 10k, and in CHCH thats with full synthetic Mobil oil.

Max Preload

23rd May 2010, 23:39

And if your servicing has any thing to do with a failure you wish fixed under warranty you will be referred back to the person who serviced it.

Yeah, and if it's a 'authorised dealer' you'll be told it's fair wear and tear... especially if it's a fucking suzuki.

THAT is 100% bollocks. We by no means have to offer fuck all in the way of warranties with used bikes, but do offer really good ones for peace of mind for the customer.

Like it or not, you do anyway. It's called the Consumer Guarantees Act 1993 and it's worth more than any warranty previously offered, manufacturer's or otherwise. And there's no contracting out (for non-business purchases). And you don't get to decide whether to honour it - a referee in the Disputes Tribunal does. And they almost always find favour with the consumer.

is it just me... or does the 450 inc WOF? if so.. makes sense

No, it doesn't! It's STILL a massive fucking rip-off! :killingme

There has been a few court cases re servicing and warranties, and the outcome is that you don't void a warranty if you get the vehicle serviced elsewhere, even if you use non genuine parts. Car dealers are shocking for telling new car customers that they must get it serviced by them, use genuine parts etc otherwise their warranties will be voided. They know its crap and has beeen for a long time, but they still do it.

Exactly. They prey on ignorance. Unless the problem can actually be shown to have been caused by that act, they cannot effectively decline warranty cover because anyone with more than half a clue would simply lodge a claim with the Disputes Tribunal.

To the OP... have a look in THIS (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/121623-Question-about-the-recommended-scheduled-servicing.?p=1129711786) thread too.

ukusa

24th May 2010, 01:12

A lot of those 6k services on a Suzuki are just an oil change :

OUCH! I hope not for $450 big ones.

I am surprised a manufacturer is okay with having their bikes go 10,000 km between oil changes. But I suppose it lets their owners brag about their longer service intervals. :shifty:

you got it in one, plus the fact we have change left over for a beer.

Blew

24th May 2010, 10:09

How many of you experts in advise, have done a valve clearance service on a VL250 and can accurately advise how long it took you.

Nelson Rules

Jantar

24th May 2010, 10:37

How many of you experts in advise, have done a valve clearance service on a VL250 and can accurately advise how long it took you.

Nelson Rules
Never done it myself, but I dropped my VStrom (a V Twin with 4 valves per cylinder) into the workshop for just that service, and picked it up 3 hours later all done. So I know its less than 3 hours.

dipshit

25th May 2010, 11:09

OUCH! I hope not for $450 big ones.

Certainly not! I do the simpler oil and filter type services myself. Even on my new bikes still in the warranty period.

It would suck though having a bike that requires a valve clearance check at every service... unless you learn to do it yourself... otherwise it won't exactly be a cheap bike to run.