Which rear tyre for winter?

[shadow88]

Can anyone sugest a good option for a rear tyre for winter, have a 200exc currently running pirelli scorpion extra, 18,110,100 was thinking maybe S12xc or pirelli XC mid soft but not sure what to try

[DocT]

The pirelli midsoft is good.

[Ride it till the red]

Personally I find The Pirelli midsofts fall to pieces... usually in a MAX of three rides. I'm still a fan of the Scorpion Extra you have on, in all conditions. That or a Kenda Trackmaster.

[B0000M]

or a Kenda Trackmaster.


really?>> i once had a bike with one of them on it- i found it just wanted to do snakeys the whole time.

my suggestion is the MS3 or MH3 from michelen or the scorpion exxtra you have

[Racey Rider]

Do some reseach on the Heidenau K60 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=291198054) . Can sell you a 110/80-18 for $190 including freight.
Racey

[Reckless]

I've got a Scorpion XC mid soft on mine and really like it, lasted well, good grip and its lasted all summer, I turned it a few rides ago and I'd get another thats for sure good tyre!

Got a Pirelli pro fim on the front thats knackered but its quite an expensive tyre so what do you run on the front??

I'm getting real close to doing them both before the real mud hits!

Edit: How did the Extra go for grip?? Everytime I've gone in to get one Steve at XXX has talked me into something different good advice bit not the extra

[honda_power]

i run x-race (used) extras all year round... they get decent grip in mud at a lower psi

[Ride it till the red]

Yeah I've found them to be good so far Booom, heaps of grip and last well which is a major plus for me. I destroy tires really quick on the terrain we have down here.
That said, I've only been running them since switching to 4 stroke, which I've found to be more tractable with any tire than my CR was... Not stirring or wanting the ol 2 vs 4 debate, you know how fond I was of the CR, just an observation. Also, perhaps theres different models of TrackMaster? I think the one I have on now is a K756?

[shadow88]

That is interesting as steve is the one that instantly reccomended that I use the Scorpion extra. I bought both a front and rear from him. I cannot fault the tyre but I have not had much experiance with other tyres to be able to coment or really validate my opinion on there performance. I saw that on the chart the extra was more suited to the harder conditions so I thought that it might be better to try somthing else for winter like the xc mid soft or s12, more than happy to continue using the extra but if there is a better option then why not try that.
I've got a Scorpion XC mid soft on mine and really like it, lasted well, good grip and its lasted all summer, I turned it a few rides ago and I'd get another thats for sure good tyre!

Got a Pirelli pro fim on the front thats knackered but its quite an expensive tyre so what do you run on the front??

I'm getting real close to doing them both before the real mud hits!

Edit: How did the Extra go for grip?? Everytime I've gone in to get one Steve at XXX has talked me into something different good advice bit not the extra

[shadow88]

Thanks for that Boom, I woul be keen to try MS3 but they do not seem to be available inan 18 inch

[noobi]

I bought a Dunlop Geomax31 for winter, which is a soft tyre, and it help up very well at a not too soft farm enduro and never had any traction issues with it, im waiting to see how it does in the sand at woodhill. But reports from other people seem that it is pretty incredible, guess ill see.


Oh and they dont make MS3/MH3 for 18inch rims.

[shadow88]

Thanks for the offer, seems a little pricy tyre compared with others, are they exceptionaly good?
Do some reseach on the Heidenau K60 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=291198054) . Can sell you a 110/80-18 for $190 including freight.
Racey

[Reckless]

That is interesting as steve is the one that instantly reccomended that I use the Scorpion extra. that.

Could well have been the time of year we asked? It was just before last winter, leAding him to different recommendations, or you might ride much harder then me? But the xc mid soft has served me well. I'll look up the hours done for you if u want?

[barty5]

ive got the ms32 scorpion both front and rear they hook up real well although the 450 dose tend to start tearing them apart after a while going to go to the extra next time round.
youll find you will have to go up to a 120 90 18 depending on what you go for as 18 is a rather restricted size compared to the 19s happy to try and do a good deal for any one wanting tyres as long as you dont mind fitting them your self (good practice anyway no tyre machine at the track)

[scott411]

S12's are pretty good in the mud, but gravel roads tend to tear them up a bit,
i like Bridgestone M404 for all aroun d, or 204's for mud,

[B0000M]

i had a good 18 on the crf, cant remember what it was now though- but it was bridgestone's tyre that 'looks' most like the ms and mh3 in tread design. instead of the large centre knob it had 2 square ones right next to eachother though.

[A&R]

my 6 penny worth.......
Had a michy s12 xc on the crf this weekend at clevedon they are brilliant in the mud but like scott says they scrub out reasonably quick on the gravel and hard clay. Also agree the scorpion is a good tyre too, bit more life in it than and xc, but don't think its so grippy in the wet.

[shadow88]

thanks reckless but no need to look up hours, I think your right about the time of the year we asked as it was not winter when steve reccomended extras.

[shadow88]

Thanks Scott, how would you compare the M404 to the scorpion extra?

S12's are pretty good in the mud, but gravel roads tend to tear them up a bit,
i like Bridgestone M404 for all aroun d, or 204's for mud,

[Rupe]

Thanks Scott, how would you compare the M404 to the scorpion extra?

I had one of those M404's last winter and wouldn't recommend it. It gripped all good, but lasted only a few rides before it was toast. I know of two other people who were disapointed with how long they last too.

[scott411]

the scorpions definatly last longer than the brdigestones, but the bridgestones grip better, they do not like gravel roads either,

[guy smiley]

Can't go past the s12 xc.. get great wear and the best traction even when they lose their edge which takes a while. Best winter tyre of the lot.. Bridgy's are ok before their edge is gone but a waste of time after that and they don't take long for their edge to go off . Did an xc 3hr on the weekend with a used xc s12 and even on my 450 the wear was minimal... by comparison my mate on an 250f completely lost all knobs on his mid soft pirelli. S12's even work fine in the summer....

[Racey Rider]

Thanks for the offer, seems a little pricy tyre compared with others, are they exceptionaly good?

Exceptionaly good? I have not used one myself so can't truthfully say. As I am new to the selling tyres game, I can only go by what reveiws are saying online - which seem very positive.
Thanks for the consideration.

[warewolf]

Thanks for the offer, seems a little pricy tyre compared with others, are they exceptionaly good?Seriously doubt a road-legal semi-knobby adventure tyre is going to compete with the likes of an S12.

[Racey Rider]

Having now Looked at what a S12 is .... I appolagise for not understanding what you were after properly. The K60 is very much more a 50/50 on/off road tyre.
The only off road tyre we do in this size is a 'Enduro hard' (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=291197135), so also not what your after. Thanks.

[shadow88]

Hi Racy Rider, No need apologise, appreciate you offer. cheers

Having now Looked at what a S12 is .... I appolagise for not understanding what you were after properly. The K60 is very much more a 50/50 on/off road tyre.
The only off road tyre we do in this size is a 'Enduro hard' (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=291197135), so also not what your after. Thanks.