Operation Centerline

[Sentox]

Sigh.

http://www.3news.co.nz/Police-hide-in-trees-to-catch-driving-offenders/tabid/817/articleID/156735/Default.aspx

No doubt, I would like to see people snapped for wandering over the center lines for no reason. Unfortunately, it means no passing in the gorge for a while :( Will be frustrating when I'm stuck behind one or two cars and I have a few hundred meters clear visibility (which you do in the middle).

[CookMySock]

Another example of the pigs trying to impose their stupid morals on ordinary citizens, for little or no reason other than to suck money out of them.

Perhaps they suggest bikers have no idea how to cross the centreline and return safely? It's not dangerous or against the law to "wander over the centreline for no reason", but hey we can paste them for that!

If the cops are "sick of" anything they should fuck off and get a job elsewhere. Fuck knows I'm sick to the fucking teeth of all sorts of shit, but I have to suck my fucking guts in and shut the fuck up, especially so right after they wipe my face with their trumped up bullshit laws they just pulled out of their arse.

Fucking stupid pigs will shortly face the general publics' wrath if they don't quickly begin to take a rational approach to road safety, and actually start helping people, and ditch the "hang everyone for every microscopic thing" approach.

Steve

[breakaway]

Hahaha "Police sick of bad driving"?

How about they address the stupid ass sunday driving cunts who drive at 20km/h below the speed limit? And all the fuckwits that just go "I didn't see you"?

Oh what the fuck am I saying, that'd actually require them to get off their ass and do some work, not just sit on the side of the road with a camera. As you were.

[kiwifruit]

fuck off
Fuck knows I'm fucking shit
fucking guts
shut the fuck up
bullshit arse.
Fucking stupid pigs





ass
cunts
fuckwits
Oh what the fuck
ass

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[yungatart]

Good job!
I am totally sick of people who cannot manage to stay in their own lane!
Can the police please bring that campaign to the rest of NZ?

[nosebleed]

Little bit of devils advocate here, but from what I saw on Campbell they were filming drivers crossing the double yellow.

Seems like some pretty strong reaction to something a lot of guys were standing up for in relation to a recent death.

[Genie]

Another example of the pigs trying to impose their stupid morals on ordinary citizens, for little or no reason other than to suck money out of them.

Perhaps they suggest bikers have no idea how to cross the centreline and return safely? It's not dangerous or against the law to "wander over the centreline for no reason", but hey we can paste them for that!

If the cops are "sick of" anything they should fuck off and get a job elsewhere. Fuck knows I'm sick to the fucking teeth of all sorts of shit, but I have to suck my fucking guts in and shut the fuck up, especially so right after they wipe my face with their trumped up bullshit laws they just pulled out of their arse.

Fucking stupid pigs will shortly face the general publics' wrath if they don't quickly begin to take a rational approach to road safety, and actually start helping people, and ditch the "hang everyone for every microscopic thing" approach.

Steve

oh I do hope no-one crosses those centre lines and wipes you off your bike! For then you'll be screaming and swearing as to why the police did nohting to keep you safe on your road....man you should go to the naughty spot and have your mouth washed out with soap, but i'm guessing you'd like that.

P.S. Once had me a friend who did an overtaking manouvre, didn't quite go to his plan and now he's dead, his one and only ride on his Moto Guzzi!

[Eyegasm]

I hear ya Kiwifruit.

Unable to explain themselves without the use of foul language.

Oh wait, what am I saying.... This is KB after all

[CookMySock]

Why do we "have to stay in our own lane" ? Whats the point? Do you not have the skills to safely change lanes? Perhaps you need the law to decide for you? No? I did not think so.

Steve

[CookMySock]

oh I do hope no-one crosses those centre lines and wipes you off your bike! For then you'll be screaming and swearing as to why the police did nohting to keep you safe on your road....man you should go to the naughty spot and have your mouth washed out with soap, but i'm guessing you'd like that.Nice try, but that was not the topic. Re-read!

The topic was, "wandering over the center lines for no reason", not "crossing the centreline into oncoming traffic."

Steve

[nodrog]

what sort of shit are they putting in those ice creams these days?

[Genie]

Nice try, but that was not the topic. Re-read!

The topic was, "wandering over the center lines for no reason", not "crossing the centreline into oncoming traffic."

Steve

ummm, either way you want to read it, it is still about crossing the centre line!!!

[Toaster]

I have read so many people grizzle and moan for years about the police "never" doing anything about bad driving and yet now they do have a more public operation to target exactly that, the same people whinge about that as well!

All manner of "bad" driving has been targeted for years - it is just less topical than the speeding fines issue and therefore was never a money spinner for the media to bother with.

Isn't it about time we started requesting more transparency and focus on volume crime? Burglary, theft, robbery, assault, intimidation, theft from cars, theft of car etc etc..... they seem to get so little resource.

[breakaway]

You just don't get it do you? Now, they're filming without consent. Next, they'll be installing average speed cameras. And there will be numerous protests, just like the acc spiel, which will ultimately fail to accomplish anything substantial.

[Genie]

what sort of shit are they putting in those ice creams these days?

far too much fat inducing hormones .... causing brains to swell and explode with a huge splodgy mess!!!!

[CookMySock]

ummm, either way you want to read it, it is still about crossing the centre line!!!Oh bullshit!

Perhaps you do not know when its safe to cross the centreline? Need a copper to hold your hand?

Of course you fucking dont. :weird:

Steve

[Toaster]

ummm, either way you want to read it, it is still about crossing the centre line!!!

Yep! And that is what often KILLS people like you and me. Last thing I want is to get hit head on and turned to toast by some muppet who cant drive or is inattentive while out on a social ride or a trip to work.

[Maha]

I dont know if its arrogants/impatience or just plan old 'I dont even give a shit about my own life' but, I drive alot in my job and see it lot on the road.

Case 1: Six Gang members from Northland were heading south through Te Hana. I was at a stop on SH1 controlled by roadworkers. Didnt bother the bikies, they just got into the oncoming lane and carried on, oncoming vehicles had to pull over the left, plus, the 30kph sign ment nothing.

Case 2: In the Dome Valley the other day, a cruiser was behind me (im in the van once again) so I give him room to slide past (im good like that) then he get so close to the car ahead of him, so close in fact, his front wheel is alongside the right rear wheel of the car!! he goes to overtake on a right hander, not alot of vision but attempts it anyway. Then has to break and get back in line! yes theres a car! All this less than 400 mts from a passing lane, he then pulls out and passes on double yellows 50 mts from said passing lane.

[Genie]

You just don't get it do you. Now, they're filming without consent. Next they'll be installing average speed cameras. And there will be numerous protests, just like the acc spiel, which will ultimately fail to accomplish anything substantial.

what i really dont' understand is ...you say they are filming without cosent...why do they need it? I've never heard of a person asking if they can speed, drive drunk, steal someone's possesions...no. No permission is given to committ a crime, so why on earth should the police ask permission to do there job...hell if everyone was law abiding (yeah I know huge joke) they would not need to resort to these tactics. Maybe they are just looking out for the lives of New Zealanders and maybe it costs them money to do so. How about looking at it from the other side for a change?

[Toaster]

Oh bullshit!

Perhaps you do not know when its safe to cross the centreline? Need a copper to hold your hand?

Of course you fucking dont. :weird:

Steve

Isn't the point of the operation to target bad driving not legal or safe driving? Overtaking and crossing a centreline is legal in some circumstances and not in others. They can do us for legal and safe passing.

[CookMySock]

Isn't it about time we started requesting more transparency and focus on volume crime? Burglary, theft, robbery, assault, intimidation, theft from cars, theft of car etc etc..... they seem to get so little resource.This man gets it.

Steve

[Genie]

Oh bullshit!

Perhaps you do not know when its safe to cross the centreline? Need a copper to hold your hand?

Of course you fucking dont. :weird:

Steve


hey dickhead, I'm not neccesarily talking about myself...just like the police are not targeting me. they are looking at those that are a danger on our roads.

[Toaster]

You just don't get it do you? Now, they're filming without consent.

Isn't a speed camera photo "filming without consent"?

[CookMySock]

Isn't the point of the operation to target bad driving not legal or safe driving? Overtaking and crossing a centreline is legal in some circumstances and not in others. They can do us for legal and safe passing.Sure, but blanket targetting and processing motorists for non-hazardous and administrative stuff does nothing except victimise the people that they purport to protect.

Steve

[Toaster]

To clarify the point of the exercise - Targeting hazardous driving IS protecting people.... the people that then don't become victims of dickhead drivers and riders that crash into them.

[Bounce001]

As has been said in this thread previously. They need to target bad drivers and do something to improve this. There was an article in the Harold this morning about lowering the speed limit in the Brynderwyns.

Full article
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10646451

Agency northern highways manager Tommy Parker says the lower limit is needed to improve safety on a challenging stretch of road with narrow lanes, tight corners and limited visibility.

"It is a section of highway that demands full driver attention - many people have been caught out and crossed the centre line or left the road with disastrous results."

There are many 'challenging' roads in NZ. Are they going to lower the speed limit nationwide wide because people don't know how to drive anymore. I though all roads in NZ demand full driver attention.

[Scuba_Steve]

Hey at least now they're attempting to target something that can be somewhat dangerous unlike their usual "speed scams", & the Manawatu is probably one of the better places to do it they have some of the worst (& slowest) drivers in NZ.

One day the road police will focus on the real problems out there (Drunk (Not tipsy!) & Slow drivers) but till then this is one step forward.

[schrodingers cat]

Deep breaths people. Taking a rational approach - Once you get past he standard indignation, anything that make people think more about their driving/riding is a good thing

[Sentox]

To be fair, there are a number of curves you can straightline in a car without endangering safety in the gorge. I'll happily surrender this small benefit (not one I'd use on the bike, robs all the fun) if it means less retards coming around a corner in my lane.

I just dislike the fact that now if I execute a quick, safe, and efficient pass on a motorbike, a civil servant getting paid to sit in a bush might snap me for it.

[Maha]

To be fair, there are a number of curves you can straightline in a car without endangering safety in the gorge. I'll happily surrender this small benefit (not one I'd use on the bike, robs all the fun) if it means less retards coming around a corner in my lane.

I just dislike the fact that now if I execute a quick, safe, and efficient pass on a motorbike, a civil servant getting paid to sit in a bush will snap me for it.

Quick/safe/efficient and....legal? you left out a most critical word.
I just watched the video and I agree with everything that was said.
Is it all double yellow through the Gorge?

[CookMySock]

hey dickhead, I'm not neccesarily talking about myself...just like the police are not targeting me. they are looking at those that are a danger on our roads.You mustn't call people names. It's called "thingafying" and it's the final stage before the "decision to hit".

I wasn't talking about you either. I was making an example, that ordinary rationally-thinking adults (including you) can quite safely "cross a centreline" without putting everyone at risk.

My whole point is, if it wasn't glaringly obvious, that cops should concentrate on processing drivers (and other criminals) for horrifically dangerous shit that actually causes someone else consequences, instead of tripping law-abiding citizens up with trivial bullshit that means nothing.

Alright? ;)

Steve

[Ixion]

Another example of the pigs trying to impose their stupid morals on ordinary citizens, for little or no reason other than to suck money out of them.

Perhaps they suggest bikers have no idea how to cross the centreline and return safely? It's not dangerous or against the law to "wander over the centreline for no reason", but hey we can paste them for that!



Yes, it is. Failure to keep left, and failure to drive entirely within a lane, for starters. A really nasty cop could have a try at careless driving, though that might be hard to make stick.

However, I am concerned that the police seem to be trying to extend the law to make ALL overtaking illegal.

[Coldrider]

Double yellow all the way, though it is a single yellow on each side.
Why not use the saddle road instead?, I have corrected in my own lane for trucks crossing the centre of the road, in both cage and bikes.

[Ixion]

What is very interesting about this is that it marks a departure from police policy.

For a number of years it has been policy to concentrate only on the "readily enforceable" offences. Which are defined as seat belts drink driving and speeding. All other offences were ignored or only taken notice of if they were part of a stop for a readily enforceable, or if the offence particularly annoyed an individual copper.

Now we have an official campaign (nnot just individual coppers) focused on other offences.



Perhaps the police themselves are losing faith in the R.A.M.

[Maha]

Double yellow all the way, though it is a single yellow on each side.
Why not use the saddle road instead?, I have corrected in my own lane for trucks crossing the centre of the road, in both cage and bikes.

Exactly!
If what they are doing saves at least one life then its fine by me, that life could be mine at anytime.

[Sentox]

Quick/safe/efficient and....legal? you left out a most critical word.
I just watched the video and I agree with everything that was said.
Is it all double yellow through the Gorge?

That was kind of my point. It's illegal, and safe (when done sensibly). Meaning the now higher chance of getting a ticket without endangering anyone, which I resent. Still, if I get caught, it's my problem. I know the score.

Once upon a time it wasn't double yellows through the gorge. At this rate they might have well just stuck cops up trees in the first place and left the markings alone.

Edit: I'd rather take the Balance bridge onto the Pahiatua track, myself. Nicer ride imo. Assuming PN is your destination anyway.

[rastuscat]

but I have to suck my fucking guts in and shut the fuck up,

Um, so why don't you?

[CookMySock]

Yes, it is. Failure to keep left, and failure to drive entirely within a lane, for starters. A really nasty cop could have a try at careless driving, though that might be hard to make stick.

However, I am concerned that the police seem to be trying to extend the law to make ALL overtaking illegal.Finally, some logic! My point exactly! The only way to get these idiots to back off is to bash them with something really big.

The main problem I see, is these guys are just angry, willing puppets, that the government can "sik onto" motorists and stand back and collect the revenue. If we point our finger at the cops, they just say "it's the law." If we point our finger at the government, they just say "the police are doing a good job with with they have." It's a cleverly disguised game designed to provide the most possible income to the govt, and there are plenty of willing participants. Even the courts have no say in the matter - it is made perfectly clear in law that you must stay as far as practicable to the left, so they are well within their rights to process 90% of the driving public. You can stand up against them all you like, and they just smirk and throw the book at you, and then run another TV campaign persuading the general public why people who can think for themselves are a danger to all.

Don't ever think you will win it.

Steve

[puddytat]

One thing Im a wondering that concerns us bikers is at what stage do bikers cross the centre line....is it when the wheels cross the centre line or when the riders body crosses the centre line? Big difference I reckon, as I see heaps of folk on bikes down the Buller gorge apexing to early & having to stand the bike up to get thier head outta the way of oncoming traffic...its something that we all should really concentrate on , that is, Late Apexing.
They've also put up new signs down here which state..."Motorcyclists, plan your corners". The missus came up with a good one for that which ammounts to adding another line of text to the sign..."And POlice plan your U Turn."

[Swoop]

Unfortunately, it means no passing in the gorge for a while
FFS Yellow lines mean "do not cross". You can still overtake if sufficient room allows.

Vehicles crossing the centreline are bloody dangerous and if the police are doing something about it, then good on them!

[Squiggles]

I think its a good idea :dodge:

[sinned]

What the cops are doing is generally what is needed. What is not needed is yellow lines in sections of road where a safe passing maneuver can be made. The Rimutakas are a good example of where some madman with a yellow paint brush was let loose. It won't be long before the yellow will be everywhere and passing will only be legal in designated passing lanes.

[Genie]

hey dickhead, I'm not neccesarily talking about myself...just like the police are not targeting me. they are looking at those that are a danger on our roads.

I must offer my apoligies to the esteemed Mr Dangerous...I should not have resorted to name calling.

[Stirts]

I must offer my apoligies to the esteemed Mr Dangerous...I should not have resorted to name calling.

Since when does calling someone by their first name require an apology? I so confoozed

[schrodingers cat]

I must offer my apoligies to the esteemed Mr Dangerous...I should not have resorted to name calling.

I guess he owes you an aplogy now for the dh call. [smile]

[duckonin]

Isn't a speed camera photo "filming without consent"?

Need that for my defense Toaster, trouble is I do not think that it would work..

[Coldrider]

maybe you can get your riding copyrighted.

[R-Soul]

You mustn't call people names. It's called "thingafying" and it's the final stage before the "decision to hit".

I wasn't talking about you either. I was making an example, that ordinary rationally-thinking adults (including you) can quite safely "cross a centreline" without putting everyone at risk.

My whole point is, if it wasn't glaringly obvious, that cops should concentrate on processing drivers (and other criminals) for horrifically dangerous shit that actually causes someone else consequences, instead of tripping law-abiding citizens up with trivial bullshit that means nothing.

Alright? ;)

Steve
Isn't that what they are doing for once? I appluad this! Making people be more attentive and less dangerous. Perfect.

[Coldrider]

Where are the RRRRRRrollers from Central Otago?, this sort of camera blitz happened about two months ago in the Kawerau Gorge between the Gibbston Valley and Cromwell.

[Genie]

Since when does calling someone by their first name require an apology? I so confoozed


sorry for confusing you I didnt' know that was he real name....duh on me for being ignorant


I guess he owes you an aplogy now for the dh call. [smile]

yes well, I must say that the children in my class at school, who are 5 years of age, seem to resort to this 'decision to hit' when they get upset too! Seems hitting is the domain of the very young and senseless.

and really, was this man suggesting that he may decide to hit me...a mere little woman. Well, that would be just disgraceful and justs show his complete and utter disrespect for women and himself.

[scumdog]

Why do we "have to stay in our own lane" ? Whats the point? Do you not have the skills to safely change lanes? Perhaps you need the law to decide for you? No? I did not think so.

Steve

Some do need the law to tell them to stay on their side of the road...I hope you're not one.


And almost nil head-on crashes happen when people stay on the correct side of the road centre.....but the cemeteries have a swag of people that didn't worry about that kind of thing, thought it didn't apply to them - and also sadly there's a swag of said peoples victims in the cemeteries too...

I doubt anybody that 'straightened out a bend' thought "Shit, might have a head-on doing this" - and I bet bugger all got hit by a vehicle they KNEW was heading towrds them, more likely it's a case of "Where the fuck did HE come fro."....bang!

[rastuscat]

I doubt anybody that 'straightened out a bend' thought "Shit, might have a head-on doing this" - and I bet bugger all got hit by a vehicle they KNEW was heading towrds them, more likely it's a case of "Where the fuck did HE come fro."....bang!

That's the issue really.

If you do something often enough with no negative consequence, you begin to believe that it is perfectly safe. Like stop signs, for example. People so rarely stop, and most will not have a crash as a result. As with centrelines. Cut corners "safely" for years, and you'll never be able to understand the reasons for Operation Centreline. You'll also probably never understand how you missed seeing that thing coming the other way.........

Some people have head on crashes as a result of being on the wrong side of the line. I bet none of them ever thought it was going to happen before it did, or they would have prevented it.

What the cops are doing is trying to engender a bit more respect for the centreline, and just maybe it will prevent a head on.

Trouble is, how to you count something that didn't happen? You can never know how effective these things are for sure. You can compare to pre campaign results, but there are so many factors involved, you can never know for sure.

So there.

[swbarnett]

Quick/safe/efficient and....legal? you left out a most critical word.
:Oi: If you think legal is the most critical thing then you have a lot to learn.

[swbarnett]

Cut corners "safely" for years, and you'll never be able to understand the reasons for Operation Centreline.
What you fail to mention is that there are two ways to Cut corners "safely". There is cutting blindly and just getting away with it and then there is planning ahead and knowing that you have sufficient clear road (because you can see it).

If the police concentrate solely on the former then I can't see anything wrong (besides the fact that I just can't stand being judged - even if the judgement is good). However, I suspect that they will be targeting the latter as well.

[TimeOut]

Where are the RRRRRRrollers from Central Otago?, this sort of camera blitz happened about two months ago in the Kawerau Gorge between the Gibbston Valley and Cromwell.

I don't have a problem with what they are doing there it's on blind corners with yellow lines.

My gripe is where they put the yellow lines, one place through the Cromwell gorge they have double yellows on a straight at least 1km long that is perfectly safe to pass on

[Sentox]

What you fail to mention is that there are two ways to Cut corners "safely". There is cutting blindly and just getting away with it and then there is planning ahead and knowing that you have sufficient clear road (because you can see it).

If the police concentrate solely on the former then I can't see anything wrong (besides the fact that I just can't stand being judged - even if the judgement is good). However, I suspect that they will be targeting the latter as well.

How do you even really tell the difference unless you're inside the driver's head anyway?

[Maha]

:Oi: If you think legal is the most critical thing then you have a lot to learn.

Always learning masser.
Those that know everything are considered dangerous.

[swbarnett]

How do you even really tell the difference unless you're inside the driver's head anyway?
There are times where it is obvious to an outside observer. There are also times when it is not. My concern is that the police will target people in this grey area "just to be on the safe side". As I've said before in other threads - I'd rather have a murderer on the street than an innocent person in jail.

[swbarnett]

Always learning masser.
Couldn't agree more.


Those that know everything are considered dangerous.
I don't claim to know everything. One thing I do know is that the law is only a guideline when it comes to what is and isn't safe. Usually one is safe when driving within the law but not always, Conversly, driving outside the law is not always unsafe (actually, done with care it's usually not unsafe at all).

[scumdog]

Conversly, driving outside the law is not always unsafe (actually, done with care it's usually not unsafe at all).

Sadly there are too many bozos on the roads that don't know 'done with care' - their thought process doesn't go that far.
(More like "Ah.. better hurry or Maccas will be shut" or "Sharlene will be pissed off if I'm late again" or "Gotta get my 'done soon-as, I'm starting to really hang out" or similar meaningful road safety orientated thoughts)

[scumdog]

Conversly, driving outside the law is not always unsafe (actually, done with care it's usually not unsafe at all).

Sadly there are too many bozos on the roads that don't know 'done with care' - their thought process doesn't go that far.
(More like "Ah.. better hurry or Maccas will be shut" or "Sharlene will be pissed off if I'm late again" or "Gotta get my 'done soon-as, I'm starting to really hang out" or similar meaningful road safety orientated thoughts)

Unlike us sharp switched on dudes.....

[MSTRS]

That's the issue really.

If you do something often enough with no negative consequence, you begin to believe that it is perfectly safe.

Plus, it becomes ingrained as a driving habit and the 'right' way of doing it is lost. Glad to see it is being targetted.

[scumdog]

Plus, it becomes ingrained as a driving habit and the 'right' way of doing it is lost. Glad to see it is being targetted.

As I've said before: Few people ever have close calls or head-ons with vehicles they knew were coming the other way (except for the last two seconds I guess), mostly it's the "Holly fucksticks Batman, I never saw HIM coming..."

And I would put money on it that the majority of those ending up in that situation had been habitual 'corner-cutters'.

[BMWST?]

....................................or against the law to "wander over the centreline for no reason".........................
it is against the law.....keep as far left as practical...

[swbarnett]

Sadly there are too many bozos on the roads that don't know 'done with care' - their thought process doesn't go that far.
(More like "Ah.. better hurry or Maccas will be shut" or "Sharlene will be pissed off if I'm late again" or "Gotta get my 'done soon-as, I'm starting to really hang out" or similar meaningful road safety orientated thoughts)
Too true. However, a certain number of such drivers is inevitable no matter what the enforcement or social climate. The end result of not accepting this as a fact of life is that those who do understand 'done with care' are penalised for no good reason and only end up feeling bitter.

[scumdog]

Too true. However, a certain number of such drivers is inevitable no matter what the enforcement or social climate. The end result of not accepting this as a fact of life is that those who do understand 'done with care' are penalised for no good reason and only end up feeling bitter.

That's life - I bet I can drive better after having drunk 4 bottles of beer than a spotty 17 year old...but I'm not allowed to by law, how unfair....and so on...

[swbarnett]

That's life - I bet I can drive better after having drunk 4 bottles of beer than a spotty 17 year old...but I'm not allowed to by law, how unfair....and so on...
And there in lies the problem with relinquishing our laws to a few stuffy beaurocrats hidden away from reality. If we trust that the enforcers on the street have the ability to judge the difference for themselves the system becomes fairer for all.

I'd like to see ALL charges backed up by video evidence. This way you gain two things. On the one hand the accused has a much harder time of denying any wrong-doing because they can be shown the act over and over. Secondly, the event can be reviewed at a later date and we can actually excercise the right to defend ourselves in the courts because a judge can see for themselves wether or not the maneauvre was indeed truly dangerous.

[scumdog]

I'd like to see ALL charges backed up by video evidence. This way you gain two things. On the one hand the accused has a much harder time of denying any wrong-doing because they can be shown the act over and over. Secondly, the event can be reviewed at a later date and we can actually excercise the right to defend ourselves in the courts because a judge can see for themselves wether or not the maneauvre was indeed truly dangerous.

And somebody is bound to moan they were 'photogrphed without my permission'....

[bsasuper]

I dont have a problem with the fuzz doing this, I see vehicles cutting corners quite often, and often on blind corners, its lazy and dangerous driving.

[peasea]

I dont have a problem with the fuzz doing this, I see vehicles cutting corners quite often, and often on blind corners, its lazy and dangerous driving.

I only covered 100k's today and had a couple of vehicles come at me in my lane. Not completely, but definitely two wheels over the line. I don't have any issues with the cops snapping the wankers; crossing the centreline is way more dangerous than pulling 111kph, never mind the legalities of travelling at such a heinous speed.

[swbarnett]

And somebody is bound to moan they were 'photogrphed without my permission'....
What they have to realise is that permission is not required when either the photographer or the subject is on public land.

[scumdog]

What they have to realise is that permission is not required when either the photographer or the subject is on public land.

You need to explain that to certain members of the public - some of them on KB.

[oldrider]

Good job!
I am totally sick of people who cannot manage to stay in their own lane!
Can the police please bring that campaign to the rest of NZ?

Worst behaviour on the highways that I see the most of is exactly that!

I don't mind them focussing on that one bit.

Bigger problem than all this "speed" bullshit they have been flogging!

Watched a TransLink truck and trailor deliberately run three "red" lights through a wet Timaru HWY one on Friday night!

Now that's gotta be a trend for bikers to worry about! :shit:

[bikemike]

If they do it right, I hope they do this kind of enforcement / education everywhere.
Anyone who will listen I will tell them our number one driver problem is lane control - all forms of lane control.

I'm all for this.

[swbarnett]

You need to explain that to certain members of the public - some of them on KB.
Well, hopefully some of them will read it here and take note. Stranger things have happened.

[The Baron]

Driving 1-0-1 Keep left. How hard is it?

[Genie]

Driving 1-0-1 Keep left. How hard is it?

obviously for some...it's just too damn hard! Hence the police wish to have a look at this distrubing trend and do something about it.

[swbarnett]

Driving 1-0-1 Keep left. How hard is it?
I applaud this simple piece of wisdom. However, I think the issue goes far deeper. On the one hand we have the need to be able to travel the roads without fear of our way being blocked by on-coming traffic. On the other we have the rampant and abusive increase in personal surveillance.

My own emotional reaction to this is conflicted. Yes, I applaud the efforts of the police to keep people on their side of the road. I also hate being watched and fear that yellow lines are being thrown in to places where they do not belong simply in order to slow down the traffic flow (maybe this does come down to the speed kills mantra afterall?). I also fear that crossing the centre-line will be treated in a black-and-white fashion, resulting in any intrusion to the other side of the road being attacked (yellow line or not).

[Genie]

As they say..the proof is in the pudding and the police will be getting right jolly and fat over this one....

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/7326975/police-catch-54-motorists-driving-on-wrong-side/

[CptSolo]

I see every second rider/driver on the road seems prepared to cross the centre line around blind corners. This is dangerous and is without purpose. I've been able to get round corners just as fast as anybody cutting it, plus I don't need to panic then get all out of shape as soon as something on coming appears.

Keep left - not difficult, and page one of the road code I believe.

[Ocean1]

The Rimutakas are a good example of where some madman with a yellow paint brush was let loose.

What amused me at the time was the numerous places where the nice new yellow paint was smeared across the road in almost all of the traditional passing spots.