Do you retaliate?

[Scuba_Steve]

When another motorist cuts you off, swerves towards or pulls into you etc without knocking you off your bike do you retaliate in anyway? i.e. smash their mirror/window, kick their car, "flip the bird":motu:, just move on:oi-grr: or force them to pull over & best them to a bloody pulp:bash:?

Just wondering what other bikers do when someone endangers their life. Oh and I'm not so much talking about the honest mistake people, I'm more talking the clearly inconsiderate moronic drivers out there.

[steve_t]

Oh and I'm not so much talking about the honest mistake people, I'm more talking the clearly inconsiderate moronic drivers out there.

So do you mean people that intentionally try to hit you or intimidate you with their vehicles? How do you tell the honest mistake people from the just plain idiots?

[Maha]

Anytime it may happen yeah they get the 'not happy' signal from either myself or, both me and pillion.
Would I turn and give chase? na, got better things to do with my time.
In saying that, I wouldn't wanna mess with said pillion if ever there was to be a face off!:bash:

I have seen it action form a certain HB chick....:shifty:

[Scuba_Steve]

So do you mean people that intentionally try to hit you or intimidate you with their vehicles? How do you tell the honest mistake people from the just plain idiots?

I guess if their signalling a "begging" for forgiveness they made an honest mistake "human error" if you will rather than just being a complete Zune, but yea I see your point its hard to tell which is which

[Grumpy]

Some years ago I took exeption to a dickhead cutting me up at an intersection. I saw red and took off after him, pulled along side and gave him some verbal then for some dumb reason launched a kick at his door. This was all while we were travelling down the road. He decided he'd had enough of this crap and swerved toward me just before I connected with his door which doubled the impact.

Sure I put a dent in his door but it just about ejected me off my bike. After I got the bike back under control after the big wobble that followed I was out of there. Got home and could hardly walk. Fuck my foot hurt.

That was the dumbest thing I had ever done and I'm glad to say I've learned my lesson.

[DMNTD]

So do you mean people that intentionally try to hit you or intimidate you with their vehicles? How do you tell the honest mistake people from the just plain idiots?

Generally from their reaction once you make them aware that they nearly topped ya.

[insane1]

can we plse add asian drivers into this mix they cant fucken drive anyway so how in the hell would they know what the road rules are.

[EJK]

One time I couldn't chase the car.

I was on an SJ50.

[imdying]

When another motorist cuts you off, swerves towards or pulls into you etc without knocking you off your bike do you retaliate in anyway? i.e. smash their mirror/window, kick their car, "flip the bird":motu:, just move on:oi-grr: or force them to pull over & best them to a bloody pulp:bash:?Only if they've obviously done it on purpose... then it's off to get their address, then shit in a bag, and then smear that under their door handles. Real cunts get tergo stripped.

[CookMySock]

So do you mean people that intentionally try to hit you or intimidate you with their vehicles? How do you tell the honest mistake people from the just plain idiots?You just "know". It's especially obvious if you haven't been laid for a few weeks, then you "know" really clearly.

Mostly I just give them a blap of the loud handle next to their window - generally they will "get" that. In cases of extreme stupidity they will get the bird. In cases of plain road-rage I do the most antagonistic handsigns thinkable until they are utterly beside themselves with rage, then I burn them off - stand up and point middle finger at arse etc. No need to thank me - just doing my part. :niceone:

Steve

[Milts]

Usually they get the palm up, 'wtf were you thinking?' gesture. I've had a few try to change lanes into me and then immediately realise their mistake, one woman was so shocked she was driving hand on heart mouthing "I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry"....lol. They sometimes get the thumbs up because hopefully they won't do it next time.
If they plainly don't care/are doing it on purpose or are just a terrible driver they get an extended 'what were you thinking' or maybe the :weird: - never the finger because I don't want to antagonise them into trying to knock me off (it's harder to pull away on a 250...)

There was one guy looked at me and then failed to give way - he was on a stop sign, I was not. He came within half a meter of my rear wheel. I turned, followed him home and explained that he should learn the road rules. Also had one guy cross the centre line and nearly shove me off the road, he had it explained to him that he really should use his fucking mirrors before deciding to cut corners and take out riders passing him. But in general, I try to avoid road rage, I think it's better for your health.

[CookMySock]

Usually they get the palm up, 'wtf were you thinking?' gesture.Yup, sometimes warranted.


There was one guy looked at me and then failed to give way [....] I turned, followed him home and explained that he should learn the road rules. Also had one guy cross the centre line and nearly shove me off the road, he had it explained to him that he really should use his fucking mirrors before deciding to cut corners and take out riders passing him. But in general, I try to avoid road rage, I think it's better for your health.If you are really concerned for your health, I'd suggest you didn't follow people around to discuss. Unless of course you have a few Karate belts or similar.

Steve

[AllanB]

When I was younger I used to let them know. I once kicked in someone’s turn signal light while telling them ‘you don’t fucking use them’.
And I have been guilty of kicking in a door when I rounded a blind corner entering Hanmer to find a car stopped in the middle of the road so the driver could take photos – he got my point.

By nowadays with the wisdom of age (I realise they don’t really care and it only makes motorcyclists look worse to Joe Public) I’m just grateful that I survived a close call and I do little more than a blast of the horn and maybe a severe shake of the head.

Having said that, recently I heard of a guy who watched his bike get backed into by a car attempting to park – I’m pretty sure there would be some pushing and shoving if that happened to me!

[onearmedbandit]

can we plse add asian drivers into this mix they cant fucken drive anyway so how in the hell would they know what the road rules are.

And Kiwi's as well, as from my experience they rate right up there.

[Milts]

Yup, sometimes warranted.

If you are really concerned for your health, I'd suggest you didn't follow people around to discuss. Unless of course you have a few Karate belts or similar.

Steve

Haha no and he could have beaten the shit out of me if he'd tried, I'm just a little guy. But you don't need to be too aggressive, just explain that they failed to give way and had I been a little slower they would be facing a ticket and possibly careless driving causing injury, not to mention buying me a new bike.

[onearmedbandit]

I don't retaliate. I get my people to retaliate.

[sinfull]

I tell my mom !

[CookMySock]

I'm just a little guy. But you don't need to be too aggressive, just explain that they failed to give way and had I been a little slower they would be facing a ticket and possibly careless driving causing injury, not to mention buying me a new bike.uh huh. I might be wrong, but I think it's the little guys who get thumped.

I wouldn't.

Steve

[slofox]

I let the twin Stebel Magnums do the talking...very satisfying, that...

Oh and sometimes I will employ the "Chinese good luck" sign...

[scooute]

I lost it once years ago... ripped his mirror off and thew it a his windscreen, the smahing glass was a cold dose of reality and I booted it home and called star 555 to report his idiousy and somewhat confesed to my actions (in a self defence manner) and found he was issued a IN for not indicating a lane change or somthing... now I twnd to just wave my arm in disaprovel... or like yesterday when the guy pulled a u turn in his truck 30m in front of me in the wet in a clearly posted 70kph no u turn zone and then stopped in my lane to reverse and complete (3 point) u turn (I saw it coming and pulled up enough to avoid him) I went to the cop stattion and reported him (mostly because he was getting out of his truck at the lights ranting and raving? when luckily they turned green and I left) nutter!

[Gibbo89]

can we plse add asian drivers into this mix they cant fucken drive anyway so how in the hell would they know what the road rules are.

got to agree with that call.... they cause me the most trouble on the road. usually i just crack up under the helmet :motu:

[davebullet]

I don't retaliate, but I do carry a loaded pistol (just in case).

[AllanB]

I don't retaliate, but I do carry a loaded pistol (just in case).

Is that your code for 'penis'?

[shrub]

I pull up beside them and stare at them and shake my head slowly. Freaks the bejesus out of them.

[FruitLooPs]

Having said that, recently I heard of a guy who watched his bike get backed into by a car attempting to park – I’m pretty sure there would be some pushing and shoving if that happened to me!

I've had that happen, sign of the kiwi - some tourist bint in one of those stupid campervans they all drive. I was up at the shop I turned around and saw my RG150 being pushed over by her reversing :shit:

I ran down the steps, she paused after knocking it over and then let off the brake to keep reversing :shit: :angry: :angry: gah I yelled "OI stop!!" and she stopped and got out, saw the toppled bike nearly under her rear wheel and started apologizing profusely.

How can you fail to see something, then hit something and ignore it and keep reversing >.< broken indicator and bent a brake lever lucky she didn't try and reverse up over it!

And the other week in my tintop taking my dad to the airport, waiting to turn right at a stop sign T-intersection a campervan coming from the left decides to turn down the sidestreet, and get this... comes past me on my inside into the lefthand lane :shit:

left me pretty speechless, shit learn the rules before getting into a big bloody van :spanking:

[R-Soul]

A silencer at the base of their skull.
And cement shooz...

[firefighter]

Where is the sometimes option? It should have more than one choice too, it really depends on the situation as to whether you're going to pull the fingers, or ring them in etc. Pretty crazy options really.

Surely no-one always looses it. If you always react there is something wrong with you and you need councelling.
I feel like a douche when I react as a once off, and it takes a bit before i'll react. (like when you really are at the end of your tether and someone deliberately swerves at you kinda thing)

For whoever says yes to the broken windows etc....I really doubt it. I ca'nt say i've seen any related news articles, ever, and there bloody would be. (talking about bikes, not the truckie a while back and that other retard from out south)

[Toaster]

Anytime it may happen yeah they get the 'not happy' signal

Ah, the old KB wave....

[Scuba_Steve]

Their are alot more "super friendly" bikers on the poll then I expected. I was expecting the "flip the bird" to be leading but it seems more are just willing to just be thankful their still upright & "turn the other cheek". Not what I was expecting at all.

[Toaster]

Their are alot more "super friendly" bikers on the poll then I expected. I was expecting the "flip the bird" to be leading but it seems more are just willing to just be thankful their still upright & "turn the other cheek". Not what I was expecting at all.

I thought flipping them that bird included beating them with a frozen chicken.

[Scuba_Steve]

I thought flipping them that bird included beating them with a frozen chicken.

:lol: Only in Ninjuary

[neels]

I usually just express my displeasure with a suitable hand gesture and carry on my way, I'd probably just arse myself off the bike trying to hit/smash something on their car anyway and make a complete dick of myself.

The look on a guys face was priceless the other day after he sort of but not really pulled out in front of me at a messy intersection/carpark entrance, when he parked up the road I pulled up beside him, and after he very nervously put his window down probably expecting a rant I politely told him that one of his brake lights wasn't working.

[Eyegasm]

I had one the other day where a Fulton Hogan Truck driver decided to park sideways across the bus lane I was using so I couldn't go further.

He got out of the truck and had a go at me, to which I replied that before he gets upset he should read
the legislation. A cop pulls up in the other lane and ends up ticketing the truck driver and let me continue on my way.

I am not going to go up against a several tonne truck for retaliation thats for sure.

As for cars, I had a lady reading a book while driving, I kid you not. Must have been a good read as she did it down most of the motorway, I was beside myself with laughter. Things you see while on the road!

[avgas]

Used to....
Broke 2 mirrors off, and kicked in a door on several occasions.
Found that the best thing I could do was just plan for idiots on the road, and move on.
Haven't had a single incident since then.

[Spazman727]

Guy almost hit me in a round about today. I followed him to what I assume was his house (had the time cos I had just left work cos the site was too wet). Stopped next to him and had a massive rant at him. He claimed that he didnt see me, I was wearing one of those massive flouro orange construction worker jackets.

[sl8er4lyf]

I pull up beside them and stare at them and shake my head slowly. Freaks the bejesus out of them.

i do exactly that, they look at you and then obviously realise they fucked up and so stare ahead so as to avoid the gaze of a blacked out XR1000 visor. Cars trying to merge with your lane is the worst, and i ensure im not in the blind spot so its not that. Revving at them is my display of anger and the majority of the time they appologise profusely

[davereid]

I'm of the "educate them" don't "bash em" school. I don't hesitate to follow people and ask them "why didn't you give way to me ?" Or "Do you love me ? You were so close behind me I thought you were gay ?" Mostly people just don't think, they don't hate ya, they just are careless, and don't realise that following too close is at worst a fender bender for them, and death for you. Actually, following too close is my pet hate. I will, and do gradually slow down until at a complete stop, in a place they can't pass while I discuss it with them. Usually I find they are very aware that they may be rear ended and it sinks in !

I have had a few "pretend" aggressive reactions but nothing serious. I guess I pick my victim, and all my bike gear adds a visual 25kg to an already stout frame !

[Maha]

Ah, the old KB wave....

More the 'Yungatart Retard Salute' if you know what I mean...:msn-wink:

[rastuscat]

A car driver received the ultimate retaliation today, just South of Kaiapoi.

He was overtaking a truck and trailer on a bend, where he can't possibly have seen what was coming in the other direction.

What was coming happened to be a motorcyclist, who had to swerve clear of the roadway, out onto the shoulder, to avoid becoming a hood ornament on the cars bonnet.

The ultimate retaliation then happened.

See, the motorcyclist was a Police motorcyclist on his BMW 1200RT-P, including flashing lights etc. The retaliation will play out in court shortly, as the driver was charged with dangerous driving.

Anone beat that for retaliation?

[Toaster]

The ultimate retaliation then happened.

See, the motorcyclist was a Police motorcyclist on his BMW 1200RT-P, including flashing lights etc. The retaliation will play out in court shortly, as the driver was charged with dangerous driving.

Anone beat that for retaliation?

Nice work. Right place right time to catch a truly BAD driver. I bet the driver got a serious serve.

[davereid]

A car driver received the ultimate retaliation today, just South of Kaiapoi.

He was overtaking a truck and trailer on a bend, where he can't possibly have seen what was coming in the other direction.

What was coming happened to be a motorcyclist, who had to swerve clear of the roadway, out onto the shoulder, to avoid becoming a hood ornament on the cars bonnet.

The ultimate retaliation then happened.

See, the motorcyclist was a Police motorcyclist on his BMW 1200RT-P, including flashing lights etc. The retaliation will play out in court shortly, as the driver was charged with dangerous driving.

Anone beat that for retaliation?

I haven't pissed my pants.. but I have come over with a warm happy feeling....

Pleased it was an experienced biker who managed it well :-)

[R-Soul]

A car driver received the ultimate retaliation today, just South of Kaiapoi.

He was overtaking a truck and trailer on a bend, where he can't possibly have seen what was coming in the other direction.

What was coming happened to be a motorcyclist, who had to swerve clear of the roadway, out onto the shoulder, to avoid becoming a hood ornament on the cars bonnet.

The ultimate retaliation then happened.

See, the motorcyclist was a Police motorcyclist on his BMW 1200RT-P, including flashing lights etc. The retaliation will play out in court shortly, as the driver was charged with dangerous driving.

Anone beat that for retaliation?

Nice!! Hoowaaa! Come for one!

[Old Steve]

What, no "All of the above" button?

I was riding along the last bit of straight road towards home a couple of weeks ago and saw a car up ahead slightly nose in towards the pavement as if it had just backed out of a driveway and turned to be parallel with the road. I kept an eye on it and it started to pull off and pulled out, no indication, a couple of metres in front of me. I'd been watching it so I'd eased towards the centre line, I dropped a gear and pulled up alongside it, pulled in the clutch, and revved like hell - might have taken ten years off the life of my engine. I let my clutch out and went passed. In my mirror I saw they were dropping rapidly behind, and their headlights were bobbing as if they'd done an emergency stop. Bet they thought, "Where the hell did he come from?"

[rastuscat]

Nice work. Right place right time to catch a truly BAD driver. I bet the driver got a serious serve.


While my man was giving him the serve he deserved another motorist stopped and reported that the same loon had overtaken him on no pass lines some way further back up the road.

Karma, that's a fact.

[rastuscat]

Pleased it was an experienced biker who managed it well :-)

My man has ridden for years, is a racer and the only reason he has stayed in the job is coz I gave him a bike job. Dat says a lot.

[rastuscat]

Just to add, my man advises he was a toothpick short of laying the driver out. That's the sort of adrenalin rush a close call brings on.

If he had we would have been writing all sorts of things about Police brutality, Rodney King etc.

[roadracingoldfart]

I have done a few retaliatory action stunts on wayward drivers doing dumb shit to me on a bike . Some involved mirrors and stuff.

Funniest was a guy cut me off , i give the evil eyes and the finger , he takes offence ,
chases me down the road ( i waited for him a bit) he follows me into work , he gets out of his car ,
he starts to rant alot , i tell him shut the hell up and get a life as he was wrong , he says ill smack you sorry ass into next week.
Well all i could do was ask him to see my appointment officer , all 4 of my workmates (engineeres) were standing behind him menacingly with various tools in hand all smiling.
He starts to grovel with a serious quiver in his voice and inches towards his car , trys to start an already idling engine , cant find reverse and makes a total fuck up of getting out the drive and scrapes the whole l/h side of his car on the steel fence post.
We stood around pissing ourselves for approx 10 mins till the boss came out and asked why we were not working. Told him the event , he gets a cop mate to issue a ticket for damaging the fence and not reporting the damage to the company . Apparently he never mentioned why he was in the yard to start with. And the boss got a cheque for the damaged fencepost lol.
I recon hes a reformed road rage dickhead now.

[rustic101]

Have noticed more and more of late people on cell phones drifting over. Thinking about what I see when I look at them, it seems they are trying to hide the fact they are using a phone which appears to actually make them steer/ drive worse?

Have just some new boots with toe sliders so feel more comfortable if I have to kick a panel or two when passing ;) failing that they will get the usual raised WTF hand!!!

[Katman]

Have just some new boots with toe sliders so feel more comfortable if I have to kick a panel or two when passing ;)

Relax and go read some more of that book.

And post up the next instalments.

[Blinkwing]

Have noticed more and more of late people on cell phones drifting over. Thinking about what I see when I look at them, it seems they are trying to hide the fact they are using a phone which appears to actually make them steer/ drive worse?

Have just some new boots with toe sliders so feel more comfortable if I have to kick a panel or two when passing ;) failing that they will get the usual raised WTF hand!!!

Heh, my first legal day on the bike, a woman tried to change lanes into where I was riding. She was looking at her phone so I honked at her and sped up past her in case she didn't react fast enough.

This new cellphone law sucks >:

[rustic101]

Relax and go read some more of that book.

And post up the next instalments.

Lol, I was given a warning for potential breach of copy right... Thought it best to stop

[Katman]

Lol, I was given a warning for potential breach of copy right... Thought it best to stop

Well that's a shame.

We can only hope that the part that people have read on the thread will be enough to encourage them to get their own copy.

Personally I was hoping to read it all for free. :whistle:

[oldrider]

Remember the guy that threatened a gun shop assistant with a knife?

The silly bastard got shot! :yes:

That's about the equivalent of a bike rider threatening a car or anything else on the road! :rolleyes:

I have done my balls a few times though but it's a waste of time really, I get more agro off the back of the bike then. :bash:

She realises the futility of it but women have always been more practical than us silly hot headed buggers! :shifty:

[PirateJafa]

i kick their car then pop a wheelie :cool:

[quickbuck]

And the other week in my tintop taking my dad to the airport, waiting to turn right at a stop sign T-intersection a campervan coming from the left decides to turn down the sidestreet, and get this... comes past me on my inside into the lefthand lane :shit:
:

Yup, pretty standard for somebody who parked their car in a country where they last drove on the other side of the road only 12 hours before.

[Shadows]

A car driver received the ultimate retaliation today, just South of Kaiapoi.

He was overtaking a truck and trailer on a bend, where he can't possibly have seen what was coming in the other direction.

What was coming happened to be a motorcyclist, who had to swerve clear of the roadway, out onto the shoulder, to avoid becoming a hood ornament on the cars bonnet.

The ultimate retaliation then happened.

See, the motorcyclist was a Police motorcyclist on his BMW 1200RT-P, including flashing lights etc. The retaliation will play out in court shortly, as the driver was charged with dangerous driving.

Anone beat that for retaliation?

Now if the cops were allowed to carry guns he could have done us all a favour and just shot the fucker.

[mattian]

Road rage only escalates the situation with one party trying to get "one up" on the other for some kind of percieved injustice. It amazes me how people who are totally in the wrong can justify it to themselves and take the moral high ground. There are people out there with a bee in their bonnet JUST! because you ride a bike, and are looking for an excuse to intimidate you because they seriously believe that cars are the only thing that should be on the road.
Had some guy beep his horn and give me the finger just because I filtered past him one day, I gave him the finger back...... situation escalates, he dangerously overtakes me, stops in the middle of the road and swerves towards me as I try to get past him. What did I do wrong??? nothing, he felt that everything that had transpired was some kind of personal affront against him. Its best to just get the hell out of there when that happens.

[Woodman]

Generally I just shake my head in pity. if you really have a go at someone they get all wound up as well, and it becomes a whos the biggest fuckwit competition.
If you just shake your head they feel quite stupid and may possibly learn from it.

At the end of the day most incidents are not deliberate in my experience