The return of Bucket Sidecars!

[Gazzza]

Hi there, just wondering if any one remembers the days of bucket sidecars. We used to run them many years ago up in Whangarei but havent seen one in years. I was hoping to get two of them up to Mt Wellington the next practice day in June. The blue rig (if my attachments have worked) is an old one but on its day is a good runner. The white rig is just about finished and to be honest is a handful, note to potential builders include some rake at the front or have a very twitchy machine. If all goes well both rigs will be at the track and if any one wants to have a go at swinging all good. Really hope we can get a few people keen and we can see the days of the sidecar again.

[speedpro]

Very interesting rear axle arrangement, lots of good reasons for doing it that way. The white one definitely looks like it needs more rake on the front. They're a lot of hard work to get round Mt Wgtn. We used to run a 1/2hr sidecar race at the "2hr meeting" and I had to have a little rest before I could get out of ours.

[Gazzza]

Yep more rake, my testing (around the street -ekkk) made it clear that cornering is great, its just those bits that connect the straights that may be a handfull...
The rear axle runs the rim brake sprocket and fuel pump, it seems a good way to get it all together. The blue rig has the same arrangment. I brought an old kart then ratted it for most the running gear, got a lot of free almost new tyres from a kart shop. Good grief a half hour sidecar meet would take a lot out of you.

[woodyracer]

Fark they are cool, id love to have a go!, also good idea using gokart tires--as you can get nice sticky ones

[Gazzza]

Yep the kart tires are the ones. Years ago a lot of guys went for mini wheels, these were ok and easier to set up I guess but the weight would have been an issue, plus you would have had only std road tires to go with. If any one wants a go on the day just let me know and hop on.

[Buckets4Me]

can you take more photos specialy of the frame frount end and egnine mounting
I can see a gp125 coming soon (I'm already looking for a kart frame)

[Gazzza]

No probs, the front end is an old GT125 steering head, easy to weld in something like that than trying to make a bespoke front. The blue rig used exhaust tube flanged and pressed in bearings. The engine mounts are longish so the engine can be rocked back and foward using a turnbuckle, this way you can get is just right for tensioning the chain.
Please forgive some of the rough welds its the peril of using gassless Mig, one sure way to get ugly welds.

[schrodingers cat]

They look like a power of fun! Rather be holding the handlebars than holding on tho!

[NOID]

im going to the shed, got 3 old ride on lawn mowers out in the paddock, a tone of old scape metal and a welder !!! mean

[boostin]

I have a feeling that the Auckland Uni SMC has a couple of bucket sidecars.

[Squiggles]

I have a feeling that the Auckland Uni SMC has a couple of bucket sidecars.

So we've got a month to get one of ours out there? I blew up the prototype electronic shifter =\

[schrodingers cat]

Please don't take this the wrong way but can I suggest
1. You spend $16 on a welding helmet OR
2. Spend the money on some beer to bribe a more experienced welder to tidy up the welding OR
3. Consider bronze welding the frame

Whilst MIG welding is simple in the sense that you turn it on. pull the trigger and sparks fly it isn't the ideal technique for less experienced folks. Even really experienced welders get caught out with lack of root and weld edge fusion (i.e. built in cracks) because it is easy to apply molten filler wire but never achieve sufficient heat to unsure fusion in the parent metal. With gas welding or it's electric cousin TIG the weld pool is more visable and the welder is more concerned about the root fusion.
The other option as I mentioned is bronzing.
It has a lot od benefits - again it is a slower technique so the welder can see what is going on. It the join is unsatisfactory reapply heat, wirebrush the filler off and start again! The size of the filler bead acts as a gusset and the joint preparation (fits) are less critical.

It is also possible to get silicon/bronze or ali/bronze wire for your MIG... It slows the weld down also and requires less heat.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass here because you're actually doin this thing!
Its just that I can see a bit of heartbreak and/or unreliability in front of you...

[Kickaha]

The other option as I mentioned is bronzing.
It has a lot od benefits - again it is a slower technique so the welder can see what is going on. It the join is unsatisfactory reapply heat, wirebrush the filler off and start again! The size of the filler bead acts as a gusset and the joint preparation (fits) are less critical.

bronzing is (or was until recently) still used in the construction of top level F2 sidecars that regulary compete at the Isle of man, mostly I would expect for ease of repair

[gatch]

I was going to tig up a chromoly subframe at work. But without the appropriate filler wire I won't go near it. So I think I'll bronze it. I mentioned it to my "welder" flatmate, who nearly had a heart attack. BRONZE BRONZE he yells.. It'll fall apart as soon as you sit on it !!

Poor fool.

[schrodingers cat]

I was going to tig up a chromoly subframe at work. But without the appropriate filler wire I won't go near it. So I think I'll bronze it. I mentioned it to my "welder" flatmate, who nearly had a heart attack. BRONZE BRONZE he yells.. It'll fall apart as soon as you sit on it !!

Poor fool.

4130 Cho - Mo is more than happy being welded with ER 70S-6 filler wire. i.e Mig wire. Ask your welding rep if you don't believe me. With proper design the pre-heat / post heat isn't as critical as many would have you believe. Certainly a wave over with a air/LPG torch to maybe 80 degrees + will help minimise distortion and unsure the heat afected zone is wider and therefore minimise cracking.

Re your flatmate. There ae welders and there are welders. Perhaps he could open his eyes or even go back to school. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

I is a poor thing and shouldn't be listened to. 28 years of fabrication, 17 of them in professional motorsport up to and including F1 is meaningless in the face of such certainty...

[jasonu]

I was going to tig up a chromoly subframe at work. But without the appropriate filler wire I won't go near it. So I think I'll bronze it. I mentioned it to my "welder" flatmate, who nearly had a heart attack. BRONZE BRONZE he yells.. It'll fall apart as soon as you sit on it !!

Poor fool.

Use mild steel filler wire, the type with the copper colored coating like mig wire has, for tig welding moly. I work at a place that makes experimental planes and that is what we use.

Also, try to track down Shaun Vesey or Jarrod Clendon. They had a nice cart wheel rig Shaun made from scratch in the 90's. They won a lot of races including (I think) a GP at Ohakea. I don't know what happened to the rig but if they still have it I am sure a few $'s will secure it. You will have to check the Wangarei (no 'h') phone book for a contact #

[gatch]

4130 Cho - Mo is more than happy being welded with ER 70S-6 filler wire. i.e Mig wire. Ask your welding rep if you don't believe me. With proper design the pre-heat / post heat isn't as critical as many would have you believe. Certainly a wave over with a air/LPG torch to maybe 80 degrees + will help minimise distortion and unsure the heat afected zone is wider and therefore minimise cracking.

Re your flatmate. There ae welders and there are welders. Perhaps he could open his eyes or even go back to school. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

I is a poor thing and shouldn't be listened to. 28 years of fabrication, 17 of them in professional motorsport up to and including F1 is meaningless in the face of such certainty...


Use mild steel filler wire, the type with the copper colored coating like mig wire has, for tig welding moly. I work at a place that makes experimental planes and that is what we use.

Also, try to track down Shaun Vesey or Jarrod Clendon. They had a nice cart wheel rig Shaun made from scratch in the 90's. They won a lot of races including (I think) a GP at Ohakea. I don't know what happened to the rig but if they still have it I am sure a few $'s will secure it. You will have to check the Wangarei (no 'h') phone book for a contact #

Choice. Alright I'll have a go. I ordered an extra metre for practice purpose.. It's not for a side chair frame btw. Just a seat frame for my bucket project. It's 3/4" x .035" wall. Had thought I'd prep the joints in the mill so there would be little to no gap.

Ha my flatmate.. Nice guy. Bit of a mug though. He's doing on site structural fitting at the moment.. Should be explanation enough eh.

[Schrgd]

Def keen on a go hanging off and falling off one of those, had a go on a full size one years ago and loved it! Hope everything works out.

[jasonu]

Be careful, .035 is pretty thin for a novice welder. Make sure you prep your joints as good as you can. If you use the pulse welding technique you will be far less likely to blow a hole in your thin walled tube. The welds end up with a texture a bit like an ali weld.
When you are completely done welding you can use an oxy/acetelene torch with a big cherry tip to heat treat the welds. Carefully heat the welded area, the weld should turn a tan color then SOON after it should turn blue. Once the blue has appeared remove the heat because the next color that will almost imediately appear is red hot, you don't want that. Don't hold the torch on one place, keep it moving back and forth. If it looks like the blue doesn't want to appear you can stop the heating when you see the tan color, better than nothing. Also, when you are heating the joints you can also put a bit of heat on the whole tube too, it releases a lot of stress. The whole heat treating process is a bit of a black art but I have found it is way more reliable colorwise if the acetylene tank is atleast 1/2 full or better. I think it is something to do with the amount of acetone still presant. With a near empty tank the metal seams far more likely to turn straight to redhot which is too hot.
Attached is a pic of one of the airplane engine mounts we make. It is mostly 1"x.049 moly. It is still in the welding jig.
Post the results with pix. Good luck.

[schrodingers cat]

As above. Suggest you use 0.6 mig wire to give you some sort of control. DO NOT use 1.6 tig wire. The amperage you'll have to use to keep the weld pool hot enough and melt the filler wire will blow holes by itself.

Use a 1.6mm tungsten - NOT 2.4. Again control is the name of the game. Suggest you make sure you're using a gas lens on the torch also and don't over-do the gas flow.
Start around 30amps and take your time.

If you try to rush trouble will soon follow.

As JasonU said above the fishmouthed end will heat much faster than the tube you are butting to so remember to focus the tungsten where the heat needs to be.
Also notice how he has polished the protective coating off the join area in his pic.

If at any stage you start to lose control STOP! Deep breath and then carry on. Be patient - its not rocket science. Don't get frustrated and enjoy the learning

[gatch]

Cheers for all the tips. Now, we don't have a pulse tig.. We don't have any filler under 1.6, and our smallest tungstens are 2.4 or there abouts.

The fellas mostly do thick mild steel so we don't have anything flash that isn't a mig.. And I'm not a pimple on the bum of a competent welder, I'm a machinist..

Oh oh I hear them say.

[Pumba]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=291651276

Been advertised in hamilton for a while, I would but my garage is alrady full of enough shit and I whould need a trailer to get it to the track.

Deffently keen for a go on any chairs that turn up at Mt Welly though

[Arronduke]

hell you guys are just to clever.. wow... so cool.
I am a failed fitter turner and I know skill when I see it.... I am impressed...

I would love to be involved building such a beast..... note wife would kill me... so yes.... would love to do somthing like this... dam trailer would be full ....

[jasonu]

Cheers for all the tips. Now, we don't have a pulse tig.. We don't have any filler under 1.6, and our smallest tungstens are 2.4 or there abouts.

The fellas mostly do thick mild steel so we don't have anything flash that isn't a mig.. And I'm not a pimple on the bum of a competent welder, I'm a machinist..

Oh oh I hear them say.

na mate you can do it with the 2.4, a long taper with a really sharp point. That's what I have learnt to use. Pulse with the foot controller assuming it controls the amperage not just the on/off. You might have to buy your own wire by the sounds of it.
Happy machineing!

[Gazzza]

Thanks for all the advice re welding. I must admit the only practical use I had with a Mig was a year or two ago doing a night class, still I got some really good advice and during the process of welding the rig I have noticed a real improvement in my welding. I know the old man built 5 rigs or so all with gas and bronzing, we never in all the years we raced had any structural problems.
I took the rig up the road last weekend and it was just unridable, the lack of rake made it just to twichy, so out with the grinder and I have just finished putting the front back on. It handles great now, but now that I can open it right up I do notice a lack of ommppph, only running a stock standard TF125, the budget just wont stetch to any serious tweaking at the moment. Just wondering dose any one have any really easy and cheap ideas for working one of these engines with out going the whole hog and reboring? It's on the cards but could be a while off as all my money seems to have been painted white and black...

[speedpro]

The good thing with a 2-stroke is that you take material out to make them go fast. Little bit more compression, don't go stupid and measure everything carefully at least twice, and make yourself a nice pipe. If the motor is more or less stock go for a real mild pipe, especially as you are hauling a rig around. PM me your port specs and i will give you a design using the formulae that the ESE guys came up with. All you need is a bit of .8mm mild steel, maybe electrogalv, and a pair of snips and away you go. You can get good gains from making the intake piston ports bigger but again don't go stupid as the motor will start eating pistons

[Gazzza]

Thanks seedpro any advice is much appreciated. I had the blue rig going today and its a bit insane. What ever we did alll those years ago seems to have made it fairly zippy. I suspect the keener swingers / pilots will enjoy this one the most. Depending on how much track time we get its all looking pretty good to get any one interested to have a blat. Lets just hope the weather works for us.

[crazy man]

would be cool to get my bumble bee side car going again after righting it of at a sreet race

[Squiggles]

We'll be there on Saturday, electronic shifter needs more development so its back to suicide shift for now (Hopefully will have hooked up a rear brake for then too)

[Dutchee]

We'll be there on Saturday, electronic shifter needs more development so its back to suicide shift for now (Hopefully will have hooked up a rear brake for then too)
Does that mean your better half is keen to ride again this month?
Make sure you check the shifter before she goes out, especially if it's fine, as I know she'd love to ride the bike working well in the dry hahaha

[Squiggles]

Does that mean your better half is keen to ride again this month?

I think so, should be a few of us coming

[Gazzza]

Ummmm sorry but is that a rig you will be bringing or a bike? Either way look foward to seeing you at the track. Took both rigs out for a final test run today and they are both good to go. Lets just hope the weather improves by next weekend.

[Squiggles]

Ummmm sorry but is that a rig you will be bringing or a bike? Either way look foward to seeing you at the track. Took both rigs out for a final test run today and they are both good to go. Lets just hope the weather improves by next weekend.

Rig, gp100 powered, should be a bit of fun

[Henk]

Really looking forward to these turning up. Put me down on the crash test dummy list.

[Gazzza]

Hey Squiggles can you post a pic?

[Gazzza]

Really looking forward to these turning up. Put me down on the crash test dummy list.

Mate you can be my first choice, we only have two sets of leathers so we will be relying on others to swing...

[Pumba]

You can put me down on that list as well.

[speedpro]

Yeah, far better to be on the side. Then you can bale when it turns to custard.

[Schrgd]

Put me on the list! heheh

[sidwyz]

Thank you so much for letting me have a swing was awesome fun.

Just a short video of my turn on the rig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQiAeLbjXu8

Cheers
Luke

[Henk]

I'll add my thanks, that was an absolute blast. Mentally reshuffling the garage now to try and work out where I could park one if I went mad and tried putting one together.

[Gazzza]

Hey Luke no probs, thanks for hopping on the side and giving us a hand all day. Excellent vid, you really seem to be going a lot faster when you are on the track, it all looks pretty tame watching... Had a great time, bummer the blue rig didnt last the day but hopefully its only something small to fix.
Next time we are out we are hoping to let some people try out a rig, they can ride and get a swinger.
See you all next race day.

[Henk]

It might seem tame from the pits. It's anything but when you're hanging off the side inches from the ground.
Swinging on the white bike was way harder work than riding a bucket, I was pretty much shot after 5 laps.

[Buckets4Me]

nice hope these are out tomorow

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[Pumba]

Guys that was an absolute blast today, thanks a heaps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Would have been great if I could have lasted longer (hmmmm, where have I heard that sort comment before) but having to push the chair the length of the front straight had me rooted before I started.

[Gazzza]

Henk you were a born swinger mate. I hope my 20 second brief on were to hang and which way to go did the trick. Might not make tomorrow, bikes need a bit of work. I have a new engine on the bench for the blue rig (well an old engine but more reliable) so will do a swap. White rig just needs a small bit of work on the front, wont have a front brake but we didnt use it today anyway.
Just to let every one know me and Cam were really gratefull for all the nice comments from everyone. And a very big thanks to Squiggles for giving us a run even after filpping, and another very big thanks to John Conner for the time on the track and again making it worth while.
Cheers. B.

[Pumba]

Well you must be talking to Henk, not me cause, I dont remeber any 20sec brief!!!!!

[Ray LeCheminant]

Henk you were a born swinger mate. I hope my 20 second brief on were to hang and which way to go did the trick. Might not make tomorrow, bikes need a bit of work. I have a new engine on the bench for the blue rig (well an old engine but more reliable) so will do a swap. White rig just needs a small bit of work on the front, wont have a front brake but we didnt use it today anyway.
Just to let every one know me and Cam were really gratefull for all the nice comments from everyone. And a very big thanks to Squiggles for giving us a run even after filpping, and another very big thanks to John Conner for the time on the track and again making it worth while.
Cheers. B.


You guys were naturals......god that looked like fun!!!

[Gazzza]

I dont know if any one noticed but I had a secret weapon, no one can pass you when you lay down a smoke screen, sorry Henk I think you also copped the smoke... Mind you that was before part of the exhaust fell off, and the catch bottle, and the screws holding the paneling, and the font brake, and other various bits and bobs. Sorry to Pumba, he did great considering he got no instructions... although that could explain the odd leaning style on number two picture. :)

[Henk]

I'd do that again anytime, might want to come up with some way to communicate

1. I'm shattered
2. Bits of the bike are falling off
3. I'm a heavy smoker but this is getting silly.

I so want to go and build one now. You may have started something big.

[Dutchee]

I'd do that again anytime, might want to come up with some way to communicate

1. I'm shattered
2. Bits of the bike are falling off
3. I'm a heavy smoker but this is getting silly.

I so want to go and build one now. You may have started something big.
NO. Unless your parents are keen on you moving back home, and that way I'll have some room in the garage for my new bikes. Then again, I guess they're off for a while soon, so you could move back there and your mum won't kick you out when they get back.

[Squiggles]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hz13/4713730828/in/set-72157624307014678/
I think that sums up why we need some bracing :lol:

Anyone catch a pic of the flip? :shit: We wont be there tomorrow but will hopefully come to race next month :yes:

[Schrgd]

Hey guy's thanks for the go on sidecar today( the white one) had a blast, def keen on another go, Was awesome, but as Henk said, way harder than getting a bucket around! Still grinning just thinking about it.

[Taz]

I was the swinger on this one back in the day. Ended up being more work than fun in the end though.

[sidwyz]

Yeah hard work for sure,
problem I had was trying to work out how to position myself to be able switch back to the left without getting my feet too tangled up,

may have had a chance if I had more than 5 seconds to look at it before rolling on to the track, never mind still great fun!!

[Kickaha]

Yeah hard work for sure,
problem I had was trying to work out how to position myself to be able switch back to the left without getting my feet too tangled up,


hang your feet off the back and roll from side to side on your knees

[jasonu]

I was the swinger on this one back in the day. Ended up being more work than fun in the end though.

Hey that is Groves' old heap ay?
So that makes you Andy right???

[Pumba]

although that could explain the odd leaning style on number two picture. :)

Yes.

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I think you get the idea:slap:

[Kickaha]

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Should be a slab of piss if you do just like the full size sidecars

[Taz]

Hey that is Groves' old heap ay?
So that makes you Andy right???

Yep .

[Taz]

You sure have to be quick to get from side to side around Mt Wellington. I used to let go, throw myself across and grab the handles on the way to the right. Would only miss them if we had an unexpected slide. One weekend we ran the track backwards and man it was hard to hold on under brakes at the end of the straight. Had a knee slider velcro'd to the arse of my leathers as I dragged my arse around the corners (gotta make these things as wide as possible). Won the auckland champs in 1993. Never had much luck at Ohakea despite being one of the fastest sidecars there. Fast but fragile. Had spare engines and all but still no NZGP win :(

[jasonu]

[ Never had much luck at Ohakea despite being one of the fastest sidecars there. Fast but fragile. Had spare engines and all but still no NZGP win :([/QUOTE]

Mate I remember the loose spark plug cap while about 100 laps in front of 2nd place at Ohakea. Now that was the shits!!!

[Taz]

[ Never had much luck at Ohakea despite being one of the fastest sidecars there. Fast but fragile. Had spare engines and all but still no NZGP win :(

Mate I remember the loose spark plug cap while about 100 laps in front of 2nd place at Ohakea. Now that was the shits!!![/QUOTE]

Yeah we could only manage to get back to 4th by the flag and we were a long way back by the time we'd found the problem. You were the Jason that had the blue RS framed TF?

[jasonu]

Yep that is me.

[Taz]

Yep that is me.

Hey long time no see. :)

[Gazzza]

Just wondering can any one tell me of a supplier of piston kits for my TF125? *******'s Suzuki shop qouted $200, sounds kind of steap... any advice welcome.

[Squiggles]

Just wondering can any one tell me of a supplier of piston kits for my TF125? *******'s Suzuki shop qouted $200, sounds kind of steap... any advice welcome.

TonyB might have some TKRJ ones still (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/109725-TKRJ-pistons-rings-conrods-on-sale)? TS vs TF piston discussed here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/82291-TS125-piston-same-as-TF125). Ebay has plenty (http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=ts125*+piston&_sacat=0&_dmpt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&_odkw=tf125*+piston&_osacat=0&bkBtn=&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313)

[Gazzza]

Cheers Squiggles, all those links were most helpful. I had ask a few people before hand about TS and TF pistons being the same and the consensus was they were, so TS it is :)

Just wondering you planning on getting up to the track next month?

[speedpro]

The TF100 takes RG400 pistons. I wonder if the 125 would take a RG500 piston. They are better.

[Gazzza]

The TF100 takes RG400 pistons. I wonder if the 125 would take a RG500 piston. They are better.

Thanks Mike I'll do a bit of investigating and see if its a go.

[Dutchee]

The TF100 takes RG400 pistons. I wonder if the 125 would take a RG500 piston. They are better.
http://motorcycleforums.yuku.com/topic/632/t/TS125-piston.html - a good discussion re the 125/RG500 piston sizes for you to read.
(this is the old bag who's told Henk he's not allowed a sidecar - you are so in trouble with me hehehehe)

[Arronduke]

Henk... sidecar... sounds natural... and Henk after my example of people will pay good money for all your old junk should inspire you to get started.

Dutchee... the swinger ....hee makes sense after all we know Henk enjoys to swing...LOL

[Henk]

Last time you told me I enjoyed pulling, now it's swinging. Damn my life is more interesting than I suspected.
I'd love to build a chair, but Dutchee knows me well enough to be 100% confident that she doesn't want to be anywhere near a sidecar with me on it.
Main issue is we'd have nowhere to keep it and no way to drag the thing to the track.
If anyone else does build one and needs someone to hang off the side of it keep me in mind. I had a ball on Saturday.

[Dutchee]

Last time you told me I enjoyed pulling, now it's swinging. Damn my life is more interesting than I suspected.
I'd love to build a chair, but Dutchee knows me well enough to be 100% confident that she doesn't want to be anywhere near a sidecar with me on it.
Main issue is we'd have nowhere to keep it and no way to drag the thing to the track.
If anyone else does build one and needs someone to hang off the side of it keep me in mind. I had a ball on Saturday.

I know your welding well enough to know no-one wants to be near it in case someone sneezes on the other side of the world and it all falls apart.
Now Arron will be on at you about balls, swinging and pulling ;) hahaha (sorry, misspelt the name)

[bucketracer]

The TF100 takes RG400 pistons. I wonder if the 125 would take a RG500 piston. They are better.


I dont know about RG500 pistons on Ebay but there are plenty of TS125 pistons like this Wiseco one for $39.99 USD
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NOS-SUZUKI-TS125-DS125-TC125-WISECO-PISTON-RINGS-040-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ca287dda6QQitemZ26042 4850854QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

[Squiggles]

Cheers Squiggles, all those links were most helpful. I had ask a few people before hand about TS and TF pistons being the same and the consensus was they were, so TS it is :)

Just wondering you planning on getting up to the track next month?

Going to make some minor improvements first but should be a goer, maybe even be in for the race day too

[Gazzza]

Going to make some minor improvements first but should be a goer, maybe even be in for the race day too

Excellent, well if you make it for both days we will be there. Dont forget that right foot rest...

[Gazzza]

Good news, got both rigs up and running fine, tweaked the front end on one and sorted the engine on the other. BI of a bitza now but she runs!!! should be a bit more reliable now. Might end up being short a pilot for one rig for most of the day... not to sure. If there are any adventures ones out there who fancy having a go riding a rig then all good, maybe you could even con a mate into swinging...

[Dutchee]

Good news, got both rigs up and running fine, tweaked the front end on one and sorted the engine on the other. BI of a bitza now but she runs!!! should be a bit more reliable now. Might end up being short a pilot for one rig for most of the day... not to sure. If there are any adventures ones out there who fancy having a go riding a rig then all good, maybe you could even con a mate into swinging...

Henk and I won't be there for the whole day (looking at packing up/leaving around 11.30/12 as there is the memorial/celebration of Paul Dobbs' happening that day and we were friends with him, so want to head there.
I do know Henk is keen to have another go if possible (he's still trying to con me into allowing him to get one).

[Rick 52]

You arn't the only one being pointed in the sidecar direction !!! We are going to go to Pauls memorial on the Saturday hope to see you .

[Gazzza]

Henk and I won't be there for the whole day (looking at packing up/leaving around 11.30/12 as there is the memorial/celebration of Paul Dobbs' happening that day and we were friends with him, so want to head there.
I do know Henk is keen to have another go if possible (he's still trying to con me into allowing him to get one).

Hmmm I was planning to get there early so no worries you guys are on!!!

[Squiggles]

Might not be there this time (havent had time to aquire bits + change the shifter and now it looks like im out of town :( ) Next month for sure, might have a couple more bikes in the trailer too :yes:

[Pumba]

Henk and I won't be there for the whole day (looking at packing up/leaving around 11.30/12 as there is the memorial/celebration of Paul Dobbs' happening that day and we were friends with him, so want to head there.
I do know Henk is keen to have another go if possible (he's still trying to con me into allowing him to get one).


You arn't the only one being pointed in the sidecar direction !!! We are going to go to Pauls memorial on the Saturday hope to see you .

Umm call me darft, but isint the Pauls thing on the Sunday? or am I missing somthing

[Henk]

Memorial at Onewhero from 12ish on Saturday. Bike show at Puke Sunday.

http://blog.dobsyracing.com/

We're going to do the Dobsy thing Saturady and Buckets Sunday.

[Dutchee]

Umm call me darft, but isint the Pauls thing on the Sunday? or am I missing somthing

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/125605-Paul-Dobbs-Memorial

[Gazzza]

Hmmmmmm well my plans might be shot, looks like I may be with out a towbar and trailer... might be good for one day but not sure which. Bit bummed, spent alot of time in the freezing cold shed with the flu getting things ready and knobeld a few days out... Well if I'm not there this race weekend I sure will be next month.