It's not all about writing tickets

[BoristheBiter]

To all you cop haters that think all police do all day is sit in a bush waiting to give you a ticket for speeding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwXb3p6j6oU

I know this will be wasted on a lot of you as i know your opinion of police is so low becuase you look at your own lives though rose coloured glasses.

If the only work the police had to do was to write out tickets this would truely be a wonderful county in which to live, unfortunately this is not the case.

[scumdog]

They'll never believe it...

[Dave Lobster]

That's funny.

Kids' stuff, compared to the RUC.

[CookMySock]

I think police officers select their line of work because it suits their psychological profile. No person goes into a job they hate. Cops become cops because it compliments their own personality. They like it.

Steve

[flyingcrocodile46]

Ironic. A video aimed at creating empathy for police when they show so little toward so many of those that they deal with:rolleyes:

[Scuba_Steve]

Well he definitely pointed out everything a NZ police Should be doing! unfortunately unless he is one of the "special ones" he never pointed out what the police actually do (i.e. traffic scams). If the vid was accurate they would have my full respect, but lets face it for the majority of front line staff its FAAAR from accurate.

[BoristheBiter]

I think police officers select their line of work because it suits their psychological profile. No person goes into a job they hate. Cops become cops because it compliments their own personality. They like it.

Steve

A bit like ice cream salesmen all being pedafiles???

[BoristheBiter]

That's funny.

Kids' stuff, compared to the RUC.

Agree with that one. thank god we never had that here.

[BoristheBiter]

Well he definitely pointed out everything a NZ police Should be doing! unfortunately unless he is one of the "special ones" he never pointed out what the police actually do (i.e. traffic scams). If the vid was accurate they would have my full respect, but lets face it for the majority of front line staff its FAAAR from accurate.

Come on then why is it far from accurate?
Could it be that like most of the posts here you have no idea what you are talking about but then why spoil a habit of a life time.

[oldrider]

They'll never believe it...

As long as you believe it is what really matters! :yes:

[Squiggles]

Well he definitely pointed out everything a NZ police Should be doing! unfortunately unless he is one of the "special ones" he never pointed out what the police actually do (i.e. traffic scams). If the vid was accurate they would have my full respect, but lets face it for the majority of front line staff its FAAAR from accurate.


Ironic. A video aimed at creating empathy for police when they show so little toward so many of those that they deal with:rolleyes:

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[The Pastor]

i got a ticket for doing 94 on the motorway, at midnight (and empty). fair cop? I was speeding (aside from the 120km/hr design of road..). But i was treated like i was the worst criminal in the world, a full wof inspection on my motorbike and an egoistic attitude like i'd never seen before. If i spoke to my workmates (aside from joking) like that i'd be sacked on the spot for serious misconduct. Stuff em!

[ukusa]

If the only work the police had to do was to write out tickets this would truely be a wonderful county in which to live, unfortunately this is not the case.

Unfortunately it's the ticket writing that probably generates the most hatred towards the cops from the average Joe Public. I would say that most citizens in NZ do appreciate the work done on getting scumbags, theives, murderers, rapists etc off our streets. What they don't like is struggling to make a living & getting targeting by a revenue gathering system that penalises people for such minor shit, when real crime is getting put on the back burner. Police officers themselves admit there's underfunding in areas when it comes to crime, but traffic tickets is where the money's at.

[toycollector10]

Don't confuse those bastard revenue collectors who pinged me doing 115 kph in a deserted overtaking lane with the Police who clean up shite. There is a difference and if you don't know it get educated.

A close relative wanted to be a policeman at one stage. Two months of watching that NZ Police reality programme a few years back sure changed his mind.

Arresting 20 stone, 18 year old pissed-up pricks on the motorway? Being spat at, bloodied saliva full in the face? Wanting desperately to give some young loud-mouthed, yobbo, shit-head a good bloody clip to settle him or her down but being figuratively handcuffed themselves by political correctness and the HR brigade and the PCA hovering just over their bloody shoulders

"Listen, you fuckers, you screwheads. Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the cunts, the dogs, the filth, the shit. Here is a man who stood up." --Travis Bickle, Taxi Driver

But the truth is it's hard to stay true to your ideals. I wouldn't do the job. And at my age, couldn't do the job. And I thank the bloody cops who do all the shit jobs that most of the posters here wouldn't get their hands dirty with. The hard-men posters, who if you fronted them face to face would be very, very careful how they addressed you. It's real easy to be a big man on the internet.

I went to school with a guy named Caldwell back in the 1970's and he went off to be a copper and in his 6th week on the job collected 60 odd stiches to the face from some gang member in a pub brawl in Auckland, I think it was. He was bottled the poor basterd. Whatever happened to him?

Having said that, the police are one of the last remaining Public Service jobs and there lies the truth: That for every guy out there going for it to salvage the dregs and make a difference and to do his best I really think that there are at least half a dozen lard-arses chillin' and waiting for retirement and their pensions.

[flyingcrocodile46]

I put my arse on the line to help cops in a brawl twice, 22 and 15 years ago. I used to respect policemen but over the years they have lost that respect and are now well on the way to earning my disrespect. I doubt very much that I would help them now... It's become too difficult to tell the good from the bad.

I believe a good part of the damage the cop image has suffered is a result of their role as nit picking revenue collectors who make people feel like they are scum because they have committed minor civil crimes. The other part being the crimes (Perjury, planting evidence, hiding or ignoring key evidence, bullying and rape etc) that they commit against others.

I can only think of two police officers that I have any respect for.

[Squiggles]

i got a ticket for doing 94 on the motorway, at midnight (and empty). fair cop? I was speeding (aside from the 120km/hr design of road..). But i was treated like i was the worst criminal in the world, a full wof inspection on my motorbike and an egoistic attitude like i'd never seen before. If i spoke to my workmates (aside from joking) like that i'd be sacked on the spot for serious misconduct. Stuff em!

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[toycollector10]

I put my arse on the line to help cops in a brawl twice

What time of day was it?

Where was it?

Were you asked to "move away and let us deal with it?"

How much had you had to drink?

[flyingcrocodile46]

What time of day was it?

Where was it?

Were you asked to "move away and let us deal with it?"

How much had you had to drink?

Night x 2

Milford street party brawl and Whitianga pub/street new years eve.

No + no first one I became a victim and they didn't even know I helped, the second they knew and thanked me (& a mate)

I can't remember but probably not enough

Are you having trouble getting your head around experiences and opinions outside your own?

[Phreak]

For what it's worth, those who put on the blue uniform to try and make New Zealand a better place for all of us to live in - they have my respect and gratitude. I don't think the general public realise even half of what the average Police officer has to deal with on an almost daily basis, and, in my opinion, merely having the courage to put on their uniform each day deserves respect and even admiration. Yes, they may upset you from time to time, either deserved or not. But I guarantee that when you really need them, they'll be there to assist in whatever capacity they can. As they have for me a couple of times.

So, as far as I'm concerned, I take my hat off to them, and applaud their courageousness.

And to the author of that video, well done.

We just need to remember that they too are only human, just like the rest of us.

[toycollector10]

I've seen a few people "helping the police" but they're just being part of the problem. It's nothing personal, I wasn't where you were, no offence. I'll take your word for it. I've got an open mind.

The funniest thing I've seen was some yob being asked to move along so he pushed the copper in the chest. Slam, bang, thank you 'mam and into the 'cuffs and a night in the cells and the fire hose on you if you don't shut-up and stop your whining by at least 2 AM!

I appreciate that you were trying to help the coppers but sometimes they don't appreciate that They want you to get out of the way, to let them do their job because it's hard enough at times. And if you want to stick up for your boozy mate (not in your case, I'm sure) prepare for the consequences.

[Gremlin]

remember, there are two distinct kinds of cops. The general duties that deal with most of the everyday problems, fights, etc, and the snakes who like pouncing on the average citizens. Often you'll find even the general duties hate the snakes.

[Scuba_Steve]

Come on then why is it far from accurate?
Could it be that like most of the posts here you have no idea what you are talking about but then why spoil a habit of a life time.

Turns out like alot of posts I do know what I'm talking about I have had a few dealing with the police for all sorts of different reasons not just traffic also I have a few of mates joined the police force & they did so to do what was shown in the video, what are they doing? Not that! they're stuck being forced to help operate the "traffic scams" & bring in the $$$. If I remember right I think they said they have to do something like 5-10yrs of "traffic scams" before they are eligible to move on & become real police as shown in the vid.
80% of our frontline are operating "traffic scams", they prioritize the money making above all else incl. but not limited to theft, child abuse, drownings.

[flyingcrocodile46]

remember, there are two distinct kinds of cops. The general duties that deal with most of the everyday problems, fights, etc, and the snakes who like pouncing on the average citizens. Often you'll find even the general duties hate the snakes.


I've heard that said and accept that it is a percentage thing. Unfortunately the odds are worse than they used to be and that has/is become a big problem for police. I dare say a lot more people would pass info on to them when they are asking for it, if they were respectful and respected. This quota shit is doing more damage than good.

[Pixie]

To all you cop haters that think all police do all day is sit in a bush waiting to give you a ticket for speeding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwXb3p6j6oU

I know this will be wasted on a lot of you as i know your opinion of police is so low becuase you look at your own lives though rose coloured glasses.

If the only work the police had to do was to write out tickets this would truely be a wonderful county in which to live, unfortunately this is not the case.:violin::violin::violin::violin::violin::viol in::violin::violin:

[Indoo]

Turns out like alot of posts I do know what I'm talking about.....

Haha thats hillarious given the rest of your post.

[firefighter]

I think police officers select their line of work because it suits their psychological profile. No person goes into a job they hate. Cops become cops because it compliments their own personality. They like it.

Steve


Actually, I wanted to join the police to help out in the community and do my bit. The only thing that put me off was the fact that the judges do'nt punish crimminals and the justice system fucks over victims, and I did'nt want to be constantly putting in the work to see all my efforts thwarted by some dickhead judge who's feelings always seem to side with the animals let back into the community. So that's why I do what I do now instead.

I would hardly say that all cops have the same personalities, that's just silly.

I would have enjoyed it otherwise. And as for people going into jobs they hate, they bloody well do. No accountant truely loves crunching numbers (for eg.).

[red mermaid]

Gee, Im glad you're not in the Police and therefore I don't have to work with you, cause your speculation is completely wrong.



remember, there are two distinct kinds of cops. The general duties that deal with most of the everyday problems, fights, etc, and the snakes who like pouncing on the average citizens. Often you'll find even the general duties hate the snakes.

[Coldrider]

Gee, Im glad you're not in the Police and therefore I don't have to work with you, cause your speculation is completely wrong.Are you coppas still allowed to post crap in internet forums after Stardio's recent performance?

[firefighter]

Turns out like alot of posts I do know what I'm talking about I have had a few dealing with the police for all sorts of different reasons not just traffic also I have a few of mates joined the police force & they did so to do what was shown in the video, what are they doing? Not that! they're stuck being forced to help operate the "traffic scams" & bring in the $$$. If I remember right I think they said they have to do something like 5-10yrs of "traffic scams" before they are eligible to move on & become real police as shown in the vid.
80% of our frontline are operating "traffic scams", they prioritize the money making above all else incl. but not limited to theft, child abuse, drownings.

Well, a mate of mine who's an ex fireman joined the police about 5 years ago, and has said nothing even remotely similar to that. (naturally I ask him lots of questions as I was/kinda still am interested in that path)

What a load of shit.

[miloking]

remember, there are two distinct kinds of cops. The general duties that deal with most of the everyday problems, fights, etc, and the snakes who like pouncing on the average citizens. Often you'll find even the general duties hate the snakes.


Gee, Im glad you're not in the Police and therefore I don't have to work with you, cause your speculation is completely wrong.

Well, if you happened to be the "snake pouncing on citizens" you wouldnt neccesarily know the other cops hate you, would you???

But we know you are the nice cop ;) (BTW did you get my appology for the "cops are low life scum")

so i guess you are right on that speculation being wrong...

[red mermaid]

Yep, got your apology, thank you.

[Ixion]

.. But I guarantee that when you really need them, they'll be there to assist in whatever capacity they can. As they have for me a couple of times.

...

Bullshit. Over half a century or so, I've called on the cops for assistance quite a few times. Mainly when I was younger and more naive. Because I needed help, or (more often) someone else did. Sometimes *really* needed them. A couple of times, *really, really*. They were never there. Ever. Never even got a taxi. A most a phone call days later, after it had all gone down.

This adulatory nonsense keeps being served up about "the police being there to help you". Humbug. They're not Boy Scouts, or Mummy's Little Helper. They're there to lock people up, or, failing that, at least give them a ticket. If they can't lock you up, or give you a ticket, they're not interested. At most you might benefit from the collateral if they lock someone else up

If you're in trouble, don't rely on the police to help you. It's down to you. Sort it out yourself, if it's too big, call up some mates. If it's already happened, write it off and move on. Burgled? Bashed? Molested? Cops won't want to know. Suck it up, and deal with it. Someone else being dealt to? Just move along, because if you stick your nose in, odds are *you'll* be the one locked up. Think about it - you call the cops. Before they get there, crims move on. So when the cops arrive, all they have is a victim (who probably has no memory what happened) , and one other person - you. So, who's going to get locked up there ? Yep.

Only reason to involve cops, is peremptive (doddering idiot looks like he might be going to *555 you ? *555 him first); or because an insurance company needs the form - which is all the police action will be.

And if you think this is just the response of a grumpy old man - try asking Mrs Ixion her opinion of the police. Mrs Ixion is the very picture of the respectable, authority respecting middle aged lady. But , if it were not that she never swears, the air would be purple. Even without swear words, she manages to be very forthright about the failings of the modern police force. Much more so than me. For the same reasons.

And, I don't hate cops. Most of them (Gingacunts excepted - I wonder if he's the one in the shit in Waitemata district?) they're OK guys , in themselves. Just that as far as the ordinary citizen is concerned, they're no use and potentially trouble. Best kept well clear of

They're NOT there to help you, and you'll do yourself no favours having anything to do with them.Didn't use to be that way. Is now. Sad, and I'd rather I didn't live in a world where that was the case, but there it is.

(Oh, and to short circuit the insinuations that will flow in - I've never been in any trouble with the police, I've had a grand total of three minor speeding tickets in over 50 years, plus one for no WoF . That's it).

[miloking]

Nicely said Ixion, there isnt much else to add....

****the thread can end here now******

[duckonin]

Ironic. A video aimed at creating empathy for police when they show so little toward so many of those that they deal with:rolleyes:

Maybe empathy to some, but for the other 98% fucken none..

[phill-k]

Nicely said Axion, there isnt much else to add....

****the thread can end here now******


Actually there is, I have not read so much bullshit in all my life. The Frontline Police do not set there own agenda, this is set out for them by the Hierarchy of the Police under guidance from the Government - remember the people you & I elect, by and large they do a very good job under very trying circumstances. They are constrained by budgets just like everyone else in this country, if Key had perhaps taken the twenty or Thirty bucks hes going to give everyone in October and increased the Police numbers, along with some more Doctors and medical faculties - what did he say the other day the tax cuts are costing 4 billion dollars that would go a long way to seeing an improved service. It is a fact of life they prioritise just like every other government dept, don't blame the poor guys on the front line, its not a job I would do, and a lot on here wouldn't have the balls to be able to deal with the bullshit they get handed to them every day of the week.
The traffic police have a job to do, if we didn't have them imagine the shambles traffic on our roads, not to mention the danger, would be in.

[Smifffy]

I don't hate the police. I quite like some of them. I have lost respect for many of them however. For those that have lost my respect, it will take more than a boobtube video to earn that respect back.

[red mermaid]

Wow, it must be right cause not only Ixion, but Mrs Ixion says it is so! Yeah Right.




Bullshit. Over half a century or so, I've called on the cops for assistance quite a few times. Mainly when I was younger and more naive. Because I needed help, or (more often) someone else did. Sometimes *really* needed them. A couple of times, *really, really*. They were never there. Ever. Never even got a taxi. A most a phone call days later, after it had all gone down.

This adulatory nonsense keeps being served up about "the police being there to help you". Humbug. They're not Boy Scouts, or Mummy's Little Helper. They're there to lock people up, or, failing that, at least give them a ticket. If they can't lock you up, or give you a ticket, they're not interested. At most you might benefit from the collateral if they lock someone else up

If you're in trouble, don't rely on the police to help you. It's down to you. Sort it out yourself, if it's too big, call up some mates. If it's already happened, write it off and move on. Burgled? Bashed? Molested? Cops won't want to know. Suck it up, and deal with it. Someone else being dealt to? Just move along, because if you stick your nose in, odds are *you'll* be the one locked up. Think about it - you call the cops. Before they get there, crims move on. So when the cops arrive, all they have is a victim (who probably has no memory what happened) , and one other person - you. So, who's going to get locked up there ? Yep.

Only reason to involve cops, is peremptive (doddering idiot looks like he might be going to *555 you ? *555 him first); or because an insurance company needs the form - which is all the police action will be.

And if you think this is just the response of a grumpy old man - try asking Mrs Ixion her opinion of the police. Mrs Ixion is the very picture of the respectable, authority respecting middle aged lady. But , if it were not that she never swears, the air would be purple. Even without swear words, she manages to be very forthright about the failings of the modern police force. Much more so than me. For the same reasons.

And, I don't hate cops. Most of them (Gingacunts excepted - I wonder if he's the one in the shit in Waitemata district?) they're OK guys , in themselves. Just that as far as the ordinary citizen is concerned, they're no use and potentially trouble. Best kept well clear of

They're NOT there to help you, and you'll do yourself no favours having anything to do with them.Didn't use to be that way. Is now. Sad, and I'd rather I didn't live in a world where that was the case, but there it is.

(Oh, and to short circuit the insinuations that will flow in - I've never been in any trouble with the police, I've had a grand total of three minor speeding tickets in over 50 years, plus one for no WoF . That's it).

[miloking]

Wow, it must be right cause not only Ixion, but Mrs Ixion says it is so! Yeah Right.

I say it too...and from opinions expressed on KB, probably large portion of people feel the same to some extent....when will you guys start listening and respecting public opinion about police, (and do something about it)
instead of living in this delusional world that everybody who doesnt agree with how police behaves must naturaly be "cop hater" and criminal....

[Ixion]

Wow, it must be right cause not only Ixion, but Mrs Ixion says it is so! Yeah Right.

Yes. Because if you've lost Mrs Ixion's respect you've lost middle New Zealand. Someone like me not respecting the police, that's no big deal. Sort of to be expected. But Mrs Ixion is no biker, never ridden a motorbike in her life, never will, never had a ticket of any sort and would probably drop dead of mortification if she did, never even been pulled over, shes the basic middle aged lady next door. If you can't retain her, you've (generic police you not you personal) lost the country.

[phill-k]

I say it too...and from opinions expressed on KB, probably large portion of people feel the same to some extent....when will you guys start listening and respecting public opinion about police, (and do something about it)
instead of living in this delusional world that everybody who doesnt agree with how police behaves must naturaly be "cop hater" and criminal....

did you not say you immigrated to NZ from Eastern Europe? a place where Governments and a lot of their depts are corrupt? My Point, you have a very jaundiced view, our police force is one of the most highly rated in the world, they are undertaking a job with finite resources and prioritise all of the duties they are charged with undertaking, this comes about because of money - their operating budget.
I think you will find on KB that there are very few with your opinion most just don't bother responding to the sort of crap you and the others spout off. f you get nicked for speeding or some such be angry with yourself not the poor bastard that writes you the ticket and has to put up with your attitude because you have done something wrong. As for the quota allegations, as in sales if you want a result you must interact with the clients, the Police are charged with interacting with the motoring public to get the result that they are tasked with for filling, like a salesman they are selling something - road "safety" and sometime to get that message through they require you to buy into it, best thing is to avoid this, by either being smarter / more observant, or by going along with the rules.

[Spearfish]

did you not say you immigrated to NZ from Eastern Europe? a place where Governments and a lot of their depts are corrupt? My Point, you have a very jaundiced view, our police force is one of the most highly rated in the world, they are undertaking a job with finite resources and prioritise all of the duties they are charged with undertaking, this comes about because of money - their operating budget.
I think you will find on KB that there are very few with your opinion most just don't bother responding to the sort of crap you and the others spout off. f you get nicked for speeding or some such be angry with yourself not the poor bastard that writes you the ticket and has to put up with your attitude because you have done something wrong. As for the quota allegations, as in sales if you want a result you must interact with the clients, the Police are charged with interacting with the motoring public to get the result that they are tasked with for filling, like a salesman they are selling something - road "safety" and sometime to get that message through they require you to buy into it, best thing is to avoid this, by either being smarter / more observant, or by going along with the rules.

+1
Lucky there is more to KB, much more.

[Ixion]

did you not say you immigrated to NZ from Eastern Europe? a place where Governments and a lot of their depts are corrupt? My Point, you have a very jaundiced view, our police force is one of the most highly rated in the world, they are undertaking a job with finite resources and prioritise all of the duties they are charged with undertaking, this comes about because of money - their operating budget.
I think you will find on KB that there are very few with your opinion most just don't bother responding to the sort of crap you and the others spout off. f you get nicked for speeding or some such be angry with yourself not the poor bastard that writes you the ticket and has to put up with your attitude because you have done something wrong. As for the quota allegations, as in sales if you want a result you must interact with the clients, the Police are charged with interacting with the motoring public to get the result that they are tasked with for filling, like a salesman they are selling something - road "safety" and sometime to get that message through they require you to buy into it, best thing is to avoid this, by either being smarter / more observant, or by going along with the rules.

Bullshit. Do you work for them too? You're certainly toeing the party line nicely.

What about when I don't get stopped for speeding (or anything else), rarely have been and the few times I did I had no problem with it.

What I do have a problem with is every day seeing cops simply ignoring stuff that really is dangerous.

Cars going through red lights under their noses, crossing the centre line , you name it. And cops who can't be bothered to do stuff that is not only their job (keeping people dsafe) but simple basic human decency.

Like an old lady with dementia, wandering down the middle of a busy road . Walking back to Whangamata, she says (from Auckland).

Flag down a cop - no not one on his way to anything , he admitted he was on his way back to the station - "old lady - in grave danger".

Not only not interested- flat outright "If you try do do anything yourself I'll arrest YOU" (not me, that was my 80 year old father in law he was talking to - another man who once worshipped the police and now despises them) .

We rang round the local rest homes, found where she had wandered from, they came and collected her. Meanwhile I steered traffic round her (she'd gotten tired and sat down in the middle of the road!). Cops didn't give a stuff.

Let's hear your excuse for that one . I'm waiting.

[Coldrider]

Our own Police Minister does not know the difference between 'comply' and 'respect'.

[Swoop]

"It's not all about writing tickets".

Quite true. Donuts do not eat themselves you know!

[miloking]

did you not say you immigrated to NZ from Eastern Europe? a place where Governments and a lot of their depts are corrupt? My Point, you have a very jaundiced view, our police force is one of the most highly rated in the world, they are undertaking a job with finite resources and prioritise all of the duties they are charged with undertaking, this comes about because of money - their operating budget.
I think you will find on KB that there are very few with your opinion most just don't bother responding to the sort of crap you and the others spout off. f you get nicked for speeding or some such be angry with yourself not the poor bastard that writes you the ticket and has to put up with your attitude because you have done something wrong. As for the quota allegations, as in sales if you want a result you must interact with the clients, the Police are charged with interacting with the motoring public to get the result that they are tasked with for filling, like a salesman they are selling something - road "safety" and sometime to get that message through they require you to buy into it, best thing is to avoid this, by either being smarter / more observant, or by going along with the rules.

Yes correct, where I come from cops and goverment is corrupt as hell.. but we are not comparing police in different countries here, the discussion is about overzealaous road policing vs solving actual crime/problems...of course its human nature, its much easier to pull people over on harbour bridge than busting real criminals.
To me if there is a rapist roaming out there somewhere (like recently) every cop that has nothing to do should be looking for him instead of sitting in a bush with laser gun... road policing can wait! After all rapists are caught, and all old ladies saved etc.

Also i like how you nicely twist it around....if you get speeding ticket be angry with yourself and feel sorry for the cop? How does that work? ...maybe be angry for pulling over or something? (i see speed limit set by govt as arbitrary limit that has nothing to do with road condition,type of vehicle, driver skill...its just a number set, so they can collect money when you go over that number....)

[Gremlin]

red mermaid, take off the blinkers for a minute. I count several cops amongst my friends, from various roles. I'm not speculating. For those that enjoy simply hating cops, even the general duties role is pretty thankless, with plenty of overtime to complete the endless paperwork, unpaid. Its the ones creating the policies they have to work to.

[phill-k]

Bullshit. Do you work for them too? You're certainly toeing the party line nicely.

What about when I don't get stopped for speeding (or anything else), rarely have been and the few times I did I had no problem with it.

What I do have a problem with is every day seeing cops simply ignoring stuff that really is dangerous.

Cars going through red lights under their noses, crossing the centre line , you name it. And cops who can't be bothered to do stuff that is not only their job (keeping people dsafe) but simple basic human decency.

Like an old lady with dementia, wandering down the middle of a busy road . Walking back to Whangamata, she says (from Auckland).

Flag down a cop - no not one on his way to anything , he admitted he was on his way back to the station - "old lady - in grave danger".

Not only not interested- flat outright "If you try do do anything yourself I'll arrest YOU" (not me, that was my 80 year old father in law he was talking to - another man who once worshipped the police and now despises them) .

We rang round the local rest homes, found where she had wandered from, they came and collected her. Meanwhile I steered traffic round her (she'd gotten tired and sat down in the middle of the road!). Cops didn't give a stuff.

Let's hear your excuse for that one . I'm waiting.


To answer your first question - no I am not a member of the Police, considered it for a career when I was younger, during the Springbok tour time, withdrew the application I had to join as realized my personality wouldn't allow me to do the Job effectively. - I don't have the ability to interact with complete morons and remain civil and respectful.

I do support the Police because I understand the Job and the constraints placed on them by our Government's decisions on budgetary expenditure against personal wealth. With the present level of staffing to "jobs" I'm not sure I could deal with the pressure these guys are under every day.

Firstly what was the outcome of your complaint to the Police Complaints authority over their inaction as regards the elderly lady, personally I would have assisted the lady off the motorway first, and yes I understand there is some risk in that. It is just so easy to tag the whole organization with an isolated incident such as this. I had a similar incident on the Northern motorway - car up against the centre barrier facing the wrong way, I stopped as it appeared to be a little old lady, crossed the lanes, spoke with her to find she was lost and had done a "U" turn, meanwhile my wife called*555 after a time of talking with her and when all the lanes were well clear I got her to do an other "u" turn and park next to our vehicle, mean time a patrol car lit up was coming up the motorway, fairly quick action I felt.

You statement about red light runners ect, seems to argue against a quota system then doesn't it. How many times do you see for instance red light runners, once a day more, multiply that by the numbers of cars on the road at any given time and you will get an idea of the numbers who do this very dangerous action, again how often do you see a police officer actually ignore this, every day once a month once in your driving history?

[Coldrider]

Two more for an organisation to be proud of......http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3762990/Accused-officers-deny-charges

[phill-k]

Yes correct, where I come from cops and goverment is corrupt as hell.. but we are not comparing police in different countries here, the discussion is about overzealaous road policing vs solving actual crime/problems...of course its human nature, its much easier to pull people over on harbour bridge than busting real criminals.
To me if there is a rapist roaming out there somewhere (like recently) every cop that has nothing to do should be looking for him instead of sitting in a bush with laser gun... road policing can wait! After all rapists are caught, and all old ladies saved etc.

Also i like how you nicely twist it around....if you get speeding ticket be angry with yourself and feel sorry for the cop? How does that work? ...maybe be angry for pulling over or something? (i see speed limit set by govt as arbitrary limit that has nothing to do with road condition,type of vehicle, driver skill...its just a number set, so they can collect money when you go over that number....)

In simple terms, be angry with yourself for getting the ticket, not the policeman that has had to in his career put up with the bullshit excuses and bad attitude they often endure to carry out the task they are charged with.

The speed limit is actually set to help prevent morons, who believe they are more capable than they are killing other motorists, unfortunately most people who operate vehicles, motorbikes ect, believe they are much more competent they they really are, hence to protect other users of the road we need regulation, for regulation to work there needs to be enforcement, enforcement requires they doing or giving something to you that you won't like. Easy ah.

Oh and not all Police Officers carry out traffic duties, although they do overlap. The bosses allocate numbers to each of the tasks they are charged with doing, and if the Traffic guys were to just give you a stern warning, shake your hand, ask you not to be a naughty boy again, and send you on your way, you would have your keyboard blazing hot laughing at how incompetent they are and that their policy of being nice doesn't work.

[miloking]

if the Traffic guys were to just give you a stern warning, shake your hand, ask you not to be a naughty boy again, and send you on your way, you would have your keyboard blazing hot laughing at how incompetent they are and that their policy of being nice doesn't work.

Realy try me :) If cops did that (within a reason of course) i would think that they are decent guys who are not here to punish little mistakes people make and are actualy concerned about my safety (thus the warning)... why would i think they are incompetent, knowing they they could give a ticket but choose not to??

[breakaway]

Was once involved with the police from the constable level right up to the senior constable, and several staff in between.

I was immediately treated like a criminal, no one was prepared to hear my side of the story. Took 6 months of bitching, moaning, and letter writing until case was finally withdrawn.

Another time, I got pulled and got given a lecture for going 113 km/h. Same cop said I should wear gear when riding. At the time, I was wearing Alpinestars jacket, Alpinestars gloves, Alpinestars boots, Alpinestars pants and my shark helmet.

Hard to find 'respect' for them when being bent over like that.

Fuck em. It's the cops' fault for making the public hate them. And some soft cock pussy video designed to invoke empathy isn't going to change my mind.

[miloking]

Another time, I got pulled and got given a lecture for going 113 km/h. .


Did he also tell you that "this is where all the crashes are happening sir" after you told him that everybody does that speed around here :D

[breakaway]

Nope, I took it on the chin and walked away having learnt that speeding is worse than rape and murdering babies.

[flyingcrocodile46]

when will you guys start listening and respecting public opinion about police, (and do something about it)
instead of living in this delusional world that everybody who doesnt agree with how police behaves must naturaly be "cop hater" and criminal....

fair question

[Squiggles]

Nope, I took it on the chin and walked away having learnt that speeding is worse than rape and murdering babies.

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[flyingcrocodile46]

Nope, I took it on the chin and walked away having learnt that speeding is worse than rape and murdering babies.

LMFAO

You won't catch me with nuts on my chin

[peasea]

Actually there is, I have not read so much bullshit in all my life. The Frontline Police do not set there own agenda, this is set out for them by the Hierarchy of the Police under guidance from the Government - remember the people you & I elect, by and large they do a very good job under very trying circumstances. They are constrained by budgets just like everyone else in this country, if Key had perhaps taken the twenty or Thirty bucks hes going to give everyone in October and increased the Police numbers, along with some more Doctors and medical faculties - what did he say the other day the tax cuts are costing 4 billion dollars that would go a long way to seeing an improved service. It is a fact of life they prioritise just like every other government dept, don't blame the poor guys on the front line, its not a job I would do, and a lot on here wouldn't have the balls to be able to deal with the bullshit they get handed to them every day of the week.
The traffic police have a job to do, if we didn't have them imagine the shambles traffic on our roads, not to mention the danger, would be in.

The cops may not set their own agendas on paper but they sure as hell do in the real world. They probably are instructed to perform in a certain way in certain circumstances but it all goes out the window when they feel like being the 'man', which is more often than not. Ixion makes valid points and I've seen some right bullshit go down with cops, standing on either side of the fence. There was a copper in the family (he PERF'd) and I have drunk/partied with cops and listened to their stories as well as seen them get away with assaults and lie about it in the box. And don't give us that bullshit about "they do a job we wouldn't have the balls to do" etc, they choose the job, they know the deal, if they don't like getting abused, attacked, spat on and held in low esteem then they don't have to sign up. They sign up because they are arrogant power freaks who enjoy a bit of biffo and they know they have a bottomless pit of money to defend themselves if the shit hits the fan.

Respect? Yeah right.

[peasea]

red mermaid, take off the blinkers for a minute.

I don't fancy your chances there.

[Katman]

Like an old lady with dementia, wandering down the middle of a busy road . Walking back to Whangamata, she says (from Auckland).

Flag down a cop - no not one on his way to anything , he admitted he was on his way back to the station - "old lady - in grave danger".

Not only not interested- flat outright "If you try do do anything yourself I'll arrest YOU" (not me, that was my 80 year old father in law he was talking to - another man who once worshipped the police and now despises them) .

We rang round the local rest homes, found where she had wandered from, they came and collected her. Meanwhile I steered traffic round her (she'd gotten tired and sat down in the middle of the road!). Cops didn't give a stuff.

Let's hear your excuse for that one . I'm waiting.

Do you really believe half the shit you spout?

[SPman]

Another time, I got pulled and got given a lecture for going 113 km/h. Same cop said I should wear gear when riding. At the time, I was wearing Alpinestars jacket, Alpinestars gloves, Alpinestars boots, Alpinestars pants and my shark helmet.

Hard to find 'respect' for them when being bent over like that.

.Wasn't a young prick from down Taumaranui way, was it? I had a similar lecture about " we don't want you to fall off at the next corner..blah blah blah" and acting as if I had never ridden a bike before, as he wrote out a ticket for 112! I was wearing 2 piece Spyke leathers, Sidi boots, Arai helmet, Spidi gloves, etc etc, on a GSXR1000 and had done 1200kms since the previous morning.......wasn't worth replying...just take the ticket and go!

[RUSS]

Yeah all cops are bastards! The other day I was just riding home from work on the motorway, sure I was using the emergency lane, sure I was going a lot faster than the other traffic, including the other bikes filtering, and yeah I was lane splitting while the cars were going like 60 km/h. But I wasn't speeding!!! Can you imagine the cheek of the cop stopping me? I might of got pissed off, why not I wasn't doing anything wrong because I wasn't speeding. The cop even reckoned that the cars were tooting 'cause they were happy I was getting stopped. I told the cop that they always toot when someone gets stopped. He gave me three tickets; using the hard shoulder, not indicating my lane changes and passing on the left (same lane). I reckon he only gave them to me because I argued with him.

Who is he to tell me how to ride? It's my bike that will get smashed. Me that will go to hospital. It's the other guys making the road unsafe for me - like those guys who pass me are going too fast. The ones that sit right on the speed limit and don't move over to let me pass so I have to do it on a blind corner. There should be no traffic enforcement (on me) because I'm a good driver.

They are all corrupt too. It must be true because I saw an investigation into this cop on Campbell Live. Once a cop was in court for rape, so clearly they are all rapists - even the cops who charged the cop.

Yeah, who needs 'em. We would all be just as safe on the roads if we didn't enforce the laws. Drugs are a victimless crime and the Tribesman are a peace loving community motorcycle club.

[miloking]

Yeah all cops are bastards! The other day I was just riding home from work on the motorway, sure I was using the emergency lane, sure I was going a lot faster than the other traffic, including the other bikes filtering, and yeah I was lane splitting while the cars were going like 60 km/h. But I wasn't speeding!!! Can you imagine the cheek of the cop stopping me? I might of got pissed off, why not I wasn't doing anything wrong because I wasn't speeding. The cop even reckoned that the cars were tooting 'cause they were happy I was getting stopped. I told the cop that they always toot when someone gets stopped. He gave me three tickets; using the hard shoulder, not indicating my lane changes and passing on the left (same lane). I reckon he only gave them to me because I argued with him.

Who is he to tell me how to ride? It's my bike that will get smashed. Me that will go to hospital. It's the other guys making the road unsafe for me - like those guys who pass me are going too fast. The ones that sit right on the speed limit and don't move over to let me pass so I have to do it on a blind corner. There should be no traffic enforcement (on me) because I'm a good driver.

They are all corrupt too. It must be true because I saw an investigation into this cop on Campbell Live. Once a cop was in court for rape, so clearly they are all rapists - even the cops who charged the cop.

Yeah, who needs 'em. We would all be just as safe on the roads if we didn't enforce the laws. Drugs are a victimless crime and the Tribesman are a peace loving community motorcycle club.

You got almost all of it right apart from "Once a cop was in court for rape" ...i think that happen way many more times then just once, but carry on...

[Smifffy]

No, not all cops are bastards. Some are. It's stupid shit like this, rather than an honest attempt to weed out the cunts that lowers the standing of the rest of them in the eyes of the public. It's not just Mrs Ixion that thinks the cops could improve their ways, it's also the IPCA. Luckily the heirarchy in the force are allowed to take as much notice of Justice Goddard as they do of Mrs Ixion.


Yeah all cops are bastards! The other day I was just riding home from work on the motorway, sure I was using the emergency lane, sure I was going a lot faster than the other traffic, including the other bikes filtering, and yeah I was lane splitting while the cars were going like 60 km/h. But I wasn't speeding!!! Can you imagine the cheek of the cop stopping me? I might of got pissed off, why not I wasn't doing anything wrong because I wasn't speeding. The cop even reckoned that the cars were tooting 'cause they were happy I was getting stopped. I told the cop that they always toot when someone gets stopped. He gave me three tickets; using the hard shoulder, not indicating my lane changes and passing on the left (same lane). I reckon he only gave them to me because I argued with him.

Who is he to tell me how to ride? It's my bike that will get smashed. Me that will go to hospital. It's the other guys making the road unsafe for me - like those guys who pass me are going too fast. The ones that sit right on the speed limit and don't move over to let me pass so I have to do it on a blind corner. There should be no traffic enforcement (on me) because I'm a good driver.

They are all corrupt too. It must be true because I saw an investigation into this cop on Campbell Live. Once a cop was in court for rape, so clearly they are all rapists - even the cops who charged the cop.

Yeah, who needs 'em. We would all be just as safe on the roads if we didn't enforce the laws. Drugs are a victimless crime and the Tribesman are a peace loving community motorcycle club.

[RUSS]

No, not all cops are bastards. Some are. It's stupid shit like this, rather than an honest attempt to weed out the cunts that lowers the standing of the rest of them in the eyes of the public. It's not just Mrs Ixion that thinks the cops could improve their ways, it's also the IPCA. Luckily the heirarchy in the force are allowed to take as much notice of Justice Goddard as they do of Mrs Ixion.

You know I'm going to have to stop visiting this forum. Some of us have more of an informed opinion than others. The facts are there for all to see, but I'm sick of reading a whole lot of "shit" from punters who look for "bad cops" to use as poster boys for the police and get their own back for the ticket they got last week.

I resolve to go now and never read another post because it makes me real mad and bitter. It does not enthuse me to do a good job or respect my fellow man.

[scumdog]

See, I told you nobody would believe it...:nono:


Be nice to see a few nay-sayers join up and show me how much better THEY would do the job...<_<

[BoristheBiter]

See, I told you nobody would believe it...:nono:


Be nice to see a few nay-sayers join up and show me how much better THEY would do the job...<_<

I was hopeing that you may be proved wrong, but no sadly not.

I surpose i shouldn't be surprised as most of have nothing else in there lives but to troll on Kiwibiker looking to see what shit they can spout, and like bees to honey its the same people spouting the same shit.

[phill-k]

I was hopeing that you may be proved wrong, but no sadly not.

I surpose i shouldn't be surprised as most of have nothing else in there lives but to troll on Kiwibiker looking to see what shit they can spout, and like bees to honey its the same people spouting the same shit.

Have you ever wondered why - because there are a small but very vocal group of morons on here that just love to be keyboard warriors, who based on there limited personal or even perceived experience need to tell the world about it, get out ride the bike pay attention to your surroundings and u probably will spot them before they spot you.

[miloking]

To Scumdog, RUSS, BoristheBiter,phill-K

Cry me a fucking river!

Sad thing is that you guys actualy believe that police does a great job and that our complaining is unjustified... i bet if i go for ride too i will spot likes of you mile away, giving moral "high-horse" lectures that nobody asked for to people that did in your eyes crime against humanity by not conforming to your bullshit agenda... (dont speed, indicate, dont drink and drive, dont drink and fry, dont cross yellow line, dont smoke weed etc.)

Iam fucking sick and tired of likes of you telling me how to live my life because somebody gave them/you badge and holden!

[BoristheBiter]

To Scumdog, RUSS, BoristheBiter,phill-K

Cry me a fucking river!

Sad thing is that you guys actualy believe that police does a great job and that our complaining is unjustified... i bet if i go for ride too i will spot likes of you mile away, giving moral "high-horse" lectures that nobody asked for to people that did in your eyes crime against humanity by not conforming to your bullshit agenda... (dont speed, indicate, dont drink and drive, dont drink and fry, dont cross yellow line, dont smoke weed etc.)

Iam fucking sick and tired of likes of you telling me how to live my life because somebody gave them badge and holden!

No your not, your a troller that is your life, you have sat on kiwibiker all day waiting for people to post so you can go on your trolling rant in the hope to get some reaction because that would make your sad life seem somewhat worthwhile.

[miloking]

No your not, your a troller that is your life, you have sat on kiwibiker all day waiting for people to post so you can go on your trolling rant in the hope to get some reaction because that would make your sad life seem somewhat worthwhile.


Fuck that i would rather talk about bikes and chicks....but you started to post emotional videos, wanting us to change our views about institution that obviously shits on average joe!

[duckonin]

I was hopeing that you may be proved wrong, but no sadly not.

I surpose i shouldn't be surprised as most of have nothing else in there lives but to troll on Kiwibiker looking to see what shit they can spout, and like bees to honey its the same people spouting the same shit.

Boristhebiter your name would tell the story, plenty of arsehole cops out on the beat and you fucken well know it, what is it called the (Brotherhood) just a bunch of bullies and a heap of them corrupt to boot, I would say the Aussie programme 'gangs of Aus' would open some eyes in the public domain as to their stand over tactics along with hush money extorted from known crooks, the same shit happens here in NZ just a different country..Honest persons in strife try to tell their side of the story but no cops have a habit of making up their own to fit the bill

[scumdog]

To Scumdog, RUSS, BoristheBiter,phill-K

Cry me a fucking river!

Sad thing is that you guys actualy believe that police does a great job and that our complaining is unjustified... i bet if i go for ride too i will spot likes of you mile away, giving moral "high-horse" lectures that nobody asked for to people that did in your eyes crime against humanity by not conforming to your bullshit agenda... (dont speed, indicate, dont drink and drive, dont drink and fry, dont cross yellow line, dont smoke weed etc.)

Iam fucking sick and tired of likes of you telling me how to live my life because somebody gave them/you badge and holden!

Bite me!:D

[scumdog]

To Scumdog, RUSS, BoristheBiter,phill-K

Cry me a fucking river!

Sad thing is that you guys actualy believe that police does a great job !

No, it's ME that does the 'great job'.:bleh:

[BoristheBiter]

Fuck that i would rather talk about bikes and chicks....but you started to post emotional videos, wanting us to change our views about institution that obviously shits on average joe!

Then way have you sent all day on this thread. If you, as you say, would rather talk about bikes and chicks then go do so.

But no you are, always have, and will always be an ill-informed troller.

[miloking]

No, it's ME that does the 'great job'.:bleh:

Ohh well thank god for that!

Otherwise all your posting would a be massive hypocrisy, wouldnt it :D

[BoristheBiter]

Turns out like alot of posts I do know what I'm talking about I have had a few dealing with the police for all sorts of different reasons not just traffic also I have a few of mates joined the police force & they did so to do what was shown in the video, what are they doing? Not that! they're stuck being forced to help operate the "traffic scams" & bring in the $$$. If I remember right I think they said they have to do something like 5-10yrs of "traffic scams" before they are eligible to move on & become real police as shown in the vid.
80% of our frontline are operating "traffic scams", they prioritize the money making above all else incl. but not limited to theft, child abuse, drownings.

It is better to apear stupid than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.
you have just removed all doubt as i have never read a more made up piece of bullshit in my life.

[miloking]

Then way have you sent all day on this thread. If you, as you say, would rather talk about bikes and chicks then go do so.

But no you are, always have, and will always be an ill-informed troller.


FYI, not realy your business why iam here... but iam fucking stuck at work all day having to stare at the monitor...so its either trademe/ebay/youtube all day or talking to you guys about why i deserved that 61km/h ticket last time...

and honestly the later is more fun :D (until you take it all personaly and start abusing people because they dont like your opinion....)

[BoristheBiter]

FYI, not realy your business why iam here... but iam fucking stuck at work all day having to stare at the monitor...so its either trademe/ebay/youtube all day or talking to you guys about why i deserved that 61km/h ticket last time...

What is this the only thread on here today? troller.

[BoristheBiter]

FYI, not realy your business why iam here... but iam fucking stuck at work all day having to stare at the monitor...so its either trademe/ebay/youtube all day or talking to you guys about why i deserved that 61km/h ticket last time...

and honestly the later is more fun :D (until you take it all personaly and start abusing people because they dont like your opinion....)

Or you could do some work.

[miloking]

What is this the only thread on here today? troller.


Or you could do some work.

No there is also the "north shore biker cop" one....

And good point....

[Katman]

but iam fucking stuck at work all day having to stare at the monitor...so its either trademe/ebay/youtube all day or talking to you guys about why i deserved that 61km/h ticket last time...



So you steal from your employer as well?

Figures.

[BoristheBiter]

Boristhebiter your name would tell the story, plenty of arsehole cops out on the beat and you fucken well know it, what is it called the (Brotherhood) just a bunch of bullies and a heap of them corrupt to boot, I would say the Aussie programme 'gangs of Aus' would open some eyes in the public domain as to their stand over tactics along with hush money extorted from known crooks, the same shit happens here in NZ just a different country..Honest persons in strife try to tell their side of the story but no cops have a habit of making up their own to fit the bill

You just live in that delusional mind of yours and belive all you see on TV. yes as has been said that in all walks of life there are the good and the bad but to compare NZ cops the the corruption in Aussie is like saying that all motorcycle riders are part of the Moungel mob.

[Ixion]

No, it's ME that does the 'great job'.:bleh:

I'd accept that. Can you clone yourself, please. And get made commissioner (though if that were going to happen the above statement wouldn't be true)

[jahrasti]

Bullshit. Over half a century or so, I've called on the cops for assistance quite a few times. Mainly when I was younger and more naive. Because I needed help, or (more often) someone else did. Sometimes *really* needed them. A couple of times, *really, really*. They were never there. Ever. Never even got a taxi. A most a phone call days later, after it had all gone down.

This adulatory nonsense keeps being served up about "the police being there to help you". Humbug. They're not Boy Scouts, or Mummy's Little Helper. They're there to lock people up, or, failing that, at least give them a ticket. If they can't lock you up, or give you a ticket, they're not interested. At most you might benefit from the collateral if they lock someone else up

If you're in trouble, don't rely on the police to help you. It's down to you. Sort it out yourself, if it's too big, call up some mates. If it's already happened, write it off and move on. Burgled? Bashed? Molested? Cops won't want to know. Suck it up, and deal with it. Someone else being dealt to? Just move along, because if you stick your nose in, odds are *you'll* be the one locked up. Think about it - you call the cops. Before they get there, crims move on. So when the cops arrive, all they have is a victim (who probably has no memory what happened) , and one other person - you. So, who's going to get locked up there ? Yep.

Only reason to involve cops, is peremptive (doddering idiot looks like he might be going to *555 you ? *555 him first); or because an insurance company needs the form - which is all the police action will be.

And if you think this is just the response of a grumpy old man - try asking Mrs Ixion her opinion of the police. Mrs Ixion is the very picture of the respectable, authority respecting middle aged lady. But , if it were not that she never swears, the air would be purple. Even without swear words, she manages to be very forthright about the failings of the modern police force. Much more so than me. For the same reasons.

And, I don't hate cops. Most of them (Gingacunts excepted - I wonder if he's the one in the shit in Waitemata district?) they're OK guys , in themselves. Just that as far as the ordinary citizen is concerned, they're no use and potentially trouble. Best kept well clear of

They're NOT there to help you, and you'll do yourself no favours having anything to do with them.Didn't use to be that way. Is now. Sad, and I'd rather I didn't live in a world where that was the case, but there it is.

(Oh, and to short circuit the insinuations that will flow in - I've never been in any trouble with the police, I've had a grand total of three minor speeding tickets in over 50 years, plus one for no WoF . That's it).

Hang on a minute, is it April fools ?(looks at date) no its the first of June.

We have all heard this crap before Ixion. I think the last time was about two years ago. Different post same shit.

[flyingcrocodile46]

You just live in that delusional mind of yours and belive all you see on TV. yes as has been said that in all walks of life there are the good and the bad but to compare NZ cops the the corruption in Aussie is like saying that all motorcycle riders are part of the Moungel mob.

Man you are an ignorant dick. People are telling you their actual experiences and/or points of view and you simply dismiss it all as untrue because it doesn't fit in with your less than worldly view point. That 'fuckstain' is the action of a real troll. Now FOAD, I haven't got time for your bullshit.

[Ixion]

Yep. You havenm't improved. Tragedy is that I'll probably still have to write the same thing again in another two years.

[BoristheBiter]

Man you are an ignorant dick. People are telling you their actual experiences and/or points of view and you simply dismiss it all as untrue because it doesn't fit in with your less than worldly view point. That 'fuckstain' is the action of a real troll. Now FOAD, I haven't got time for your bullshit.

As there was nothing in your post about your experience with corruption and just opinons i can dissmiss it without a second of thought.
if you don't have time "for this bullshit" why post, or why reply for that matter?

[miloking]

So you steal from your employer as well?

Figures.

No i dont steal from employer, my job happens to be in front of computer and there is always spare time to browse some net...

also dont pretend you care about corporate theft...there is nothing in it for you (no quotas or donuts either)

[Katman]

No i dont steal from employer, my job happens to be in front of computer and there is always spare time to browse some net...

also dont pretend you care about corporate theft...there is nothing in it for you (no quotas or donuts either)

Do you think your employer sees it that way?

[duckonin]

Boris you dig a deeper hole for yourself, you are the troller on this forum, and you fit the bill as being an arrogant cunt that also fits into the catergory of the 98% shit bags, it is not I that is delusional, that word was put in the dictionary so we could use it incase we meet such a idget as yourself..

[BoristheBiter]

Boris you dig a deeper hole for yourself, you are the troller on this forum, and you fit the bill as being an arrogant cunt that also fits into the catergory of the 98% shit bags, it is not I that is delusional, that word was put in the dictionary so we could use it incase we meet such a idget as yourself..

You keep calling me a troller but all i want is the proof of what you posted about how corrupt the NZ police are.
If you can show me that then i will take it back untill then you will still be the delusional fuckhead that posts shit he makes up from his head.

[jahrasti]

Yep. You havenm't improved. Tragedy is that I'll probably still have to write the same thing again in another two years.

It is sad, as I have dealt with wanker cops (he was a brit convert so say no more) BUT also when I lived in Hamilton, I was broken onto twice before I got my dog. both times they got caught.

The time after that my dog had them bailed up, cops take them away (unlawfully on property).

Your experience bad, mine good.

[miloking]

Do you think your employer sees it that way?

Correct they dont, thats why the have policies in place to make sure employees do their job (also they monitor internet access for misuse)
...so does 90%companies in NZ...and dont try to tell me iam the only person that browses some net at work?
How is this related to this thread about police not doing their job properly, wait....ohhhhh i see what you did here :D

[Katman]

Correct they dont, thats why the have policies in place to make sure employees do their job (also they monitor internet access for misuse)
...so does 90%companies in NZ...and dont try to tell me iam the only person that browses some net at work?
How is this related to this thread about police not doing their job properly, wait....ohhhhh i see what you did here :D

So are all call centre monkeys thieves?

[jahrasti]

So are all call centre monkeys thieves?

Nah they are just KB trolls.

[Taz]

It's not all about writing tickets

Yes it is. At any cost.

[BoristheBiter]

Yes it is. At any cost.

No it's not .

[Smifffy]

No doubt there will be many who will miss your Tribesman loving, lane-splitting, shoulder driving fantasy posts.

I for one am quite happy to accept that not all cops are corrupt, jack-booted fascists looking for a free ride in an aussie tank. I'm also more than happy to acknowledge that Jack & Dianne Criminal are scum, and that many , if not most motorists & Motorcyclists are guilty of something.

The problem arises when the good cops let the bad ones stand up as examples of perfect policemen, who are just doing their job under difficult situations.

It's those pricks that make the cops look bad, not the public that call them on it.

I can cite more IPCA reccommendations that have been decried from the top brass, than your fanciful lane splitting whinge.


You know I'm going to have to stop visiting this forum. Some of us have more of an informed opinion than others. The facts are there for all to see, but I'm sick of reading a whole lot of "shit" from punters who look for "bad cops" to use as poster boys for the police and get their own back for the ticket they got last week.

I resolve to go now and never read another post because it makes me real mad and bitter. It does not enthuse me to do a good job or respect my fellow man.

[miloking]

So are all call centre monkeys thieves?

haha that just goes to show how limited your thinking is...because everybody who works with computer, works in call centre.

Never mind,i cant realy speak for them but they probably all are...just like "ALL" cops are dicks.

[miloking]

Nah they are just KB trolls.

Yep all people working in call centres ride bikes....lol, where do you guys come up with this shit :)

[jahrasti]

Yep all people working in call centres ride bikes....lol, where do you guys come up with this shit :)

MAD magazine

[red mermaid]

And by your own admission you are a wanker, and I'm a nice cop.

[red mermaid]

And by your own admission you are a wanker, and I'm a nice cop.

[miloking]

And by your own admission you are a wanker, and I'm a nice cop.

Wow where did that come from? I wasnt even abusing you...

also was that double post intentional...i think it was :D

[Smifffy]

LOL, try the cop in another thread not so long ago who was posting on here from his cosy office in the early hours of the morning, bemoaning how hard life was, because "his team" was out doing breath tests in the cold and rain, while he trolled KB.


Correct they dont, thats why the have policies in place to make sure employees do their job (also they monitor internet access for misuse)
...so does 90%companies in NZ...and dont try to tell me iam the only person that browses some net at work?
How is this related to this thread about police not doing their job properly, wait....ohhhhh i see what you did here :D

[jahrasti]

LOL, try the cop in another thread not so long ago who was posting on here from his cosy office in the early hours of the morning, bemoaning how hard life was, because "his team" was out doing breath tests in the cold and rain, while he trolled KB.

What!!!!!!!! a cop trolling KB? Why were they out in the rain? crime doesn't get commited in the rain as it is a fair weather activity only.
Take half the riders on this site, rainy rainy no speedy speedy.

[Smifffy]

What!!!!!!!! a cop trolling KB? Why were they out in the rain? crime doesn't get commited in the rain as it is a fair weather activity only.
Take half the riders on this site, rainy rainy no speedy speedy.

Denying it happened?

[jahrasti]

Denying it happened?

Na didn't see it. It may well have but I have long since built a bridge and gotten over the bollacks that gets spouted on here.

Anyway do you want your favourite public servants get wet and then getting the sniffles?

[miloking]

What!!!!!!!! a cop trolling KB? Why were they out in the rain? crime doesn't get commited in the rain as it is a fair weather activity only.
Take half the riders on this site, rainy rainy no speedy speedy.

I speed even in a rain, also love speeding in a thick fog....what a fun, yay!

[jahrasti]

I speed even in a rain, also love speeding in a thick fog....what a fun, yay!

Yes but you are the male version of Wonder Woman. Anything is possible for a superhero like you.

[Taz]

No it's not .

Yes it is .

[Scuba_Steve]

Well I think its about time we hear what N.W.A. has to say about this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M8vei3L0L8

[Teflon]

The Hamilton Police are all good cunts... Keep up the good work!

[Grubber]

Turns out like alot of posts I do know what I'm talking about I have had a few dealing with the police for all sorts of different reasons not just traffic also I have a few of mates joined the police force & they did so to do what was shown in the video, what are they doing? Not that! they're stuck being forced to help operate the "traffic scams" & bring in the $$$. If I remember right I think they said they have to do something like 5-10yrs of "traffic scams" before they are eligible to move on & become real police as shown in the vid.
80% of our frontline are operating "traffic scams", they prioritize the money making above all else incl. but not limited to theft, child abuse, drownings.

Sorry but your wrong1
A good friend of mine joined up last year and did 3 months traffic and then out on the street. A female who i wouldn't take on when i was at my best either!

[miloking]

Sorry but your wrong1
A good friend of mine joined up last year and did 3 months traffic and then out on the street. A female who i wouldn't take on when i was at my best either!

Maybe the good cops move on to the real things pretty quick and the retards with behaviour problems (those that beat students while off duty for example) stay in traffic....i mean it actualy would explain a lot.

I guess just like any job, if you are motivated and capable you get to do more exciting things...and if you are cunt you get to be a traffic cop

[breakaway]

You cops better watch your backs. Another forum I frequent had two officers in hot water after their superiors saw them posting bullshit: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-news/news/3754498/Cops-vile-web-diary-probed

Discussion thread: http://www.gpforums.co.nz/showthread.php?s=&threadid=391790&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

Shows the mentality of these cops... acting like hot shit since they have absolute power over their countrymen. Again, I'm sure all cops aren't like this, but a fair few of the ones (with the exception of some VERY nice cops on KB who helped me through a truly nasty ordeal) are like this.

[Hiflyer]

Stupid cops, doing there job and shit.

But seriously there are quite a few wanker cops, just like there are wanker call centre people and wanker mechanics etc. They don't have to be but they are and it's a shame that you all get the bad rap for it.

I don't get why Boris and co are getting angry cos we are angry at cops. Stop trolling Boris. :D

[BoristheBiter]

Stupid cops, doing there job and shit.

But seriously there are quite a few wanker cops, just like there are wanker call centre people and wanker mechanics etc. They don't have to be but they are and it's a shame that you all get the bad rap for it.

I don't get why Boris and co are getting angry cos we are angry at cops. Stop trolling Boris. :D

For me its not the fact that people hate the cops, its the fact that they are so illinformed and think that all cops just write out tickets, hence this thread, but i just guess it is too much too expect.
If you don't like cops there is nothing i can say to change that, it just pisses me off when they just sit and post shit as if it is true and when challanged about said facts they just start becoming offensive instead off backing up their facts.

[duckonin]

You keep calling me a troller but all i want is the proof of what you posted about how corrupt the NZ police are.
If you can show me that then i will take it back untill then you will still be the delusional fuckhead that posts shit he makes up from his head.

F.M. and the system let you into the force without a proper psychiatric report Hmmm!! I shall have to have a yarn with my superior about your demeaner..In the mean time stock and station agents sell bait (Tallon) buy some and give yourself a real dose it would do us all a favour...

[flyingcrocodile46]

This thread really should be called lessons in irony or perhaps the PKB thread.

[Hiflyer]

For me its not the fact that people hate the cops, its the fact that they are so illinformed and think that all cops just write out tickets, hence this thread, but i just guess it is too much too expect.
If you don't like cops there is nothing i can say to change that, it just pisses me off when they just sit and post shit as if it is true and when challanged about said facts they just start becoming offensive instead off backing up their facts.

Fair enough, I was joking about the trolling thing by the way, sarcasm is hard to convey. I've been pulled over a few times and they were all my fault as well, I just didn't really argue and was a nice chappy and on every occasion my offence was downgraded to something less ie: lower speed, 14 day allowance for a 2 month overdue rego, let off breaking curfew etc.


On the other hand, my mate is a car enthusiast, not a boy racer, and has a highly modified Nissan Pulsar GTi-R all legal etc and he was doing 63 in a 50, was very apologetic but was treated like the scum of the earth. Maybe he was just having a bad day?

Dunno, but like I said before there are wankers out there and it ruins it for everyone else.

"A good reputation takes a long time to build but can be lost in an instance"

[BoristheBiter]

F.M. and the system let you into the force without a proper psychiatric report Hmmm!! I shall have to have a yarn with my superior about your demeaner..In the mean time stock and station agents sell bait (Tallon) buy some and give yourself a real dose it would do us all a favour...

Please refer to post #116,
I rest my case.

[Smifffy]

For me its not the fact that people hate the cops, its the fact that they are so illinformed and think that all cops just write out tickets, hence this thread, but i just guess it is too much too expect.
If you don't like cops there is nothing i can say to change that, it just pisses me off when they just sit and post shit as if it is true and when challanged about said facts they just start becoming offensive instead off backing up their facts.

I like to check here (http://www.ipca.govt.nz/) for facts. I don't hate 'em, I just don't understand why the good ones spend so much effort in coming to the defence of the obvious wanker ones.

[flyingcrocodile46]

I just don't understand why the good ones spend so much effort in coming to the defence of the obvious wanker ones.

It's a gang thing

[BoristheBiter]

Fair enough, I was joking about the trolling thing by the way, sarcasm is hard to convey. I've been pulled over a few times and they were all my fault as well, I just didn't really argue and was a nice chappy and on every occasion my offence was downgraded to something less ie: lower speed, 14 day allowance for a 2 month overdue rego, let off breaking curfew etc.


On the other hand, my mate is a car enthusiast, not a boy racer, and has a highly modified Nissan Pulsar GTi-R all legal etc and he was doing 63 in a 50, was very apologetic but was treated like the scum of the earth. Maybe he was just having a bad day?

Dunno, but like I said before there are wankers out there and it ruins it for everyone else.

"A good reputation takes a long time to build but can be lost in an instance"

Don't it just.
But you see what i mean about what some are posting.

[BoristheBiter]

I like to check here (http://www.ipca.govt.nz/) for facts. I don't hate 'em, I just don't understand why the good ones spend so much effort in coming to the defence of the obvious wanker ones.

I wasn't meaning you as to the facts thing.
AS for the defence thing, well someone has to stand up for the majoity of police that do a good job becuse god knows there are ones that just like to see them fail.

[Hiflyer]

Don't it just.
But you see what i mean about what some are posting.

Yes and I see what they mean as well.

It's actually a really good read.

I think it's hard for people to back up their statements with facts because they don't have the actual information you know.
And they see a trend in people bagging on other people, for the right reasons (bit of an oxymoron there), and they jump on the bandwagon too.

I'll only bag the asshole cops that I've met cos I keep their numbers just incase I come across them again and actually have a record of what happened (from my perspective)

[duckonin]

Please refer to post #116,
I rest my case.

Boris before you buy the 'tallon' to do us all a favour; You do the home work I shall not work for you,there has been two very good books written by top cops in NZ that have been disgusted by what they have witnessed whilst in the force within NZ...Time spent in reconnoitre Boris is seldom wasted, you might like to try this before you blaze away at others with your contempt for the truth...

[BoristheBiter]

Yes and I see what they mean as well.

It's actually a really good read.

I think it's hard for people to back up their statements with facts because they don't have the actual information you know.
And they see a trend in people bagging on other people, for the right reasons (bit of an oxymoron there), and they jump on the bandwagon too.

I'll only bag the asshole cops that I've met cos I keep their numbers just incase I come across them again and actually have a record of what happened (from my perspective)

Some of it is a good read and some make some good points, but some are so far off and i don't know if they truely believe what they are saying or if they just want a reaction.

[Swoop]

Do you really believe half the shit you spout?
Pot, meet kettle.

[BoristheBiter]

Boris before you buy the 'tallon' to do us all a favour; You do the home work I shall not work for you,there has been two very good books written by top cops in NZ that have been disgusted by what they have witnessed whilst in the force within NZ...Time spent in reconnoitre Boris is seldom wasted, you might like to try this before you blaze away at others with your contempt for the truth...

This is the sort of thing i was meaning.
Whats with the agro? you only needed to say that one sentince. I really have not been trying to wind you up, i have been trying to get the facts of why you think like you do. I have not seen any corruption in the police like the cases in Aussie and if those books shed light onto what you are talking about then i would like to know do you have the names of those books as i have not read them.

[miloking]

*****This thread can now be removed as utter bullshit as this: http://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/24091.html ****
....proves its all only about writing tickets!!!

However everybody who would like to continue to bash police...
please move over here:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/124288-Tickets-for-4km-h-over-the-speed-limit-this-weekend


PS: hope you get at least some of those 55Km/h tickets this weekend Boris...maybe it will open your eyes a little....

[flyingcrocodile46]

I'd have a lot less trouble believing that it's all about saving lives rather than generating revenue if there were some similar parallels....

For instance many many more lives of us smokers (and non smokers) could be saved by making it illegal to smoke and prosecuting us when we smoke. Oh! that's right, more revenue is collected when we do smoke. Silly me.

[BoristheBiter]

*****This thread can now be removed as utter bullshit as this: http://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/24091.html ****
....proves its all only about writing tickets!!!

However everybody who would like to continue to bash police...
please move over here:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/124288-Tickets-for-4km-h-over-the-speed-limit-this-weekend


PS: hope you get at least some of those 55Km/h tickets this weekend Boris...maybe it will open your eyes a little....

these are the rules of this country if you don't like them you should just fuck off to what every country you came from.

[BoristheBiter]

I'd have a lot less trouble believing that it's all about saving lives rather than generating revenue if there were some similar parallels....

For instance many many more lives of us smokers (and non smokers) could be saved by making it illegal to smoke and prosecuting us when we smoke. Oh! that's right, more revenue is collected when we do smoke. Silly me.

Wouldn't we all.

[miloking]

these are the rules of this country if you don't like them you should just fuck off to what every country you came from.

Yep those are the rules and i can choose to live wherever i fucking want.....BUT the point that you have so eloquently avoided is: THIS THREAD IS A BULLSHIT and you know it....

[HenryDorsetCase]

these are the rules of this country if you don't like them you should just fuck off to what every country you came from.

or exercise your democratic right to agitate to change them.

[BoristheBiter]

Yep those are the rules and i can choose to live wherever i fucking want.....BUT the point that you have so eloquently avoided is: THIS THREAD IS A BULLSHIT and you know it....

NO you ignorant fuck. it is a thread saying that not all police time is spent on writting out tickets and if you haven't grasped that fact then you never will. the bullshit on here is from your trolling arse.
You sit on here all day and night showing what a silly little man you really are, so unlike you i will now go and get on my bike and go for a ride while you sit there and dream about.

The press release states that the descrition has been lowered to 4km from ten, there will not be police writting tickets, there will be same number as there always has been but then i wouldn't have thorught you would grasp this consept.

To everyone else may the sun shine and have a good ride the weekend.

[miloking]

NO you ignorant fuck. it is a thread saying that not all police time is spent on writting out tickets and if you haven't grasped that fact then you never will. the bullshit on here is from your trolling arse.
You sit on here all day and night showing what a silly little man you really are, so unlike you i will now go and get on my bike and go for a ride while you sit there and dream about.

The press release states that the descrition has been lowered to 4km from ten, there will not be police writting tickets, there will be same number as there always has been but then i wouldn't have thorught you would grasp this consept.

To everyone else may the sun shine and have a good ride the weekend.

Go for your little ride to calm the fuck down! (and stop at local pharmacy and get some prozac) and Hope you dont get any tickets...that could realy send you over the edge, couldnt it :D

[Katman]

For instance many many more lives of us smokers (and non smokers) could be saved by making it illegal to smoke and prosecuting us when we smoke. Oh! that's right, more revenue is collected when we do smoke. Silly me.

Silly you indeed. It appears that the government are currently seriously considering how they can make smoking illegal.

Don't for a minute think if they turn their full attention towards motorcycling that we have a shits show of fighting it.

[phill-k]

I like to check here (http://www.ipca.govt.nz/) for facts. I don't hate 'em, I just don't understand why the good ones spend so much effort in coming to the defence of the obvious wanker ones.

Show me any other Govt body that has such an open policy of review by other than their own, like Boris I get pissed with the morons on here that continually hit the keyboard to slag of the Police who in NZ to a fantastic but difficult Job.

[phill-k]

Go for your little ride to calm the fuck down! (and stop at local pharmacy and get some prozac) and Hope you dont get any tickets...that could realy send you over the edge, couldnt it :D

Kid you spout some much bullshit that you should just take your leave, in NZ my country not yours, we have rules, actually they are designed to help protect idiots like you.
I for one take offence at a little upstart from some distant land coming to my country and insulting the very people we require to protect us from the likes of you, its bad enough that some of our own NZ morons carry on like you.
You mentioned in one of your earlier threads you like to go fast in Fog, post your address kid and I'll send you a complementary box of alco-pops, hopefully you will drink them all and then take one of your fast rides in the fog:yes:

[duckonin]

Email sent off a mo ago Boris to track the titles of the books written about cops in NZ...Shall I hope be able to let you know in due course..

[phill-k]

Email sent off a mo ago Boris to track the titles of the books written about cops in NZ...Shall I hope be able to let you know in due course..

Please post the author and titles here if you don't mind.

[duckonin]

Please post the author and titles here if you don't mind.

Yep that is what I shall do....cheers

[miloking]

Kid you spout some much bullshit that you should just take your leave, in NZ my country not yours, we have rules, actually they are designed to help protect idiots like you.
I for one take offence at a little upstart from some distant land coming to my country and insulting the very people we require to protect us from the likes of you, its bad enough that some of our own NZ morons carry on like you.
You mentioned in one of your earlier threads you like to go fast in Fog, post your address kid and I'll send you a complementary box of alco-pops, hopefully you will drink them all and then take one of your fast rides in the fog:yes:

Iam citizen in this country just like you or Boris, so as far as the "NZ is my country not yours" thats a bull... also iam not insulting those trying to protect...iam insulting those arrogant fucks that think they are superior to me just because they have badge!
And "spout bullshit" i think my response was pretty tame considering Boris called me ignorant fuck just because i dont agree with his emotional view of police...and you calling me idiot for the exact same reason.
Not once did i call either of you anything...so yeah "calm the fuck down" still stands.

I mentioned earlier in many of my posts lots of sarcasm so you need to not take everything seriously (hint speeding in rain)...but yeah bring on the alco-pops...

[Smifffy]

Show me any other Govt body that has such an open policy of review by other than their own, like Boris I get pissed with the morons on here that continually hit the keyboard to slag of the Police who in NZ to a fantastic but difficult Job.

It isn't their policy, it is law, and as has been shown time and again, without it things would be much worse. They tend to ignore the authority when it suits them. Some of them do a fantastic job. Most of them do a good job, despite the morons that they have in charge. The dodgiest people I knew in school all became cops. All ex-cops I know now are among the dodgiest people I know - always a scam going somewhere.

When I was visiting Melbourne, and enjoying some vendor hospitality, we were unable to find a restaurant after pissing up at an AFL game. The vendor I was with rocked up to a couple of Victoria's finest and asked for directions. I was frikken mortified, half expecting to be cuffed and batoned (we were walking). The cop had a good old laugh and directed us to the right place. I have experienced similar in the USA, there is no way I would approach an NZ cop like that, they are just too staunch for words.

[Katman]

i think my response was pretty tame considering Boris called me ignorant fuck just because i dont agree with his emotional view of police

Hey, I'll happily call you an ignorant fuck simply because you're an ignorant fuck.

[miloking]

Hey, I'll call you an ignorant fuck simply because you're an ignorant fuck.

Yeah thats fine...but then i can call you arrogant fuck because you are one, but where does that get us? nowhere....

[Corse1]

Yep well without reading the pages and pages of love hate ...welll maybe no love cops have a hard job sometimes and they also do a fantastic job most of the time.....but highway patrol cops are more my concern. 50/50 at the moment in my book. Had mainmly good experiences with them until this last weekend.

This guy was a prick, bordering on fuckwit!! Shit for brains: :angry::innocent::angry::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::a r15::ar15::ar15: :done:

[scumdog]

Yep well without reading the pages and pages of love hate ...welll maybe no love cops have a hard job sometimes and they also do a fantastic job most of the time.....but highway patrol cops are more my concern. 50/50 at the moment in my book. Had mainmly good experiences with them until this last weekend.

This guy was a prick, bordering on fuckwit!! Shit for brains: :angry::innocent::angry::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::a r15::ar15::ar15: :done:

Ah, so in the eyes of some that makes ALL cops 'shit for brains' eh....

[phill-k]

Yep well without reading the pages and pages of love hate ...welll maybe no love cops have a hard job sometimes and they also do a fantastic job most of the time.....but highway patrol cops are more my concern. 50/50 at the moment in my book. Had mainmly good experiences with them until this last weekend.

This guy was a prick, bordering on fuckwit!! Shit for brains: :angry::innocent::angry::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::a r15::ar15::ar15: :done:

OK so you have had a bad experience(?) AS you fell justified calling him a fuckwit, do us here the courtesy of explaining exactly what happened to warrant this, all the details please, his as well as your perspective then we can all determine whether or not the claim and name is justified.

You see it is quite legitimate to call the little Eastern European milkman a fuckwit or a moron because he has laid the evidence before us all here in his ranting and raving, unfounded, with out evidenced postings.

[Smifffy]

Ah, so in the eyes of some that makes ALL cops 'shit for brains' eh....

As much as it makes those with criticisms of some members of the force, and some policies "cop haters"

[scumdog]

As much as it makes those with criticisms of some members of the force, and some policies "cop haters"

If they specify particular cops I guess you have a point.

But a lot don't....

[Smifffy]

I'll take his word for it thanks, and any amount of pulling his story to pieces is unlikely to alter his opinion of the cop, whether fuckwit or not. Just another lost opportunity of winning hearts and minds. Never mind - Hearts & minds ain't what they interested in. Yet they bitch & moan about not having them, and feel the need to post up their gangbusting vids...


OK so you have had a bad experience(?) AS you fell justified calling him a fuckwit, do us here the courtesy of explaining exactly what happened to warrant this, all the details please, his as well as your perspective then we can all determine whether or not the claim and name is justified.

You see it is quite legitimate to call the little Eastern European milkman a fuckwit or a moron because he has laid the evidence before us all here in his ranting and raving, unfounded, with out evidenced postings.

[phill-k]

I'll take his word for it thanks, and any amount of pulling his story to pieces is unlikely to alter his opinion of the cop, whether fuckwit or not. Just another lost opportunity of winning hearts and minds. Never mind - Hearts & minds ain't what they interested in. Yet they bitch & moan about not having them, and feel the need to post up their gangbusting vids...

Fair enough, but I have a wee issue with C50T riders, you see one wouldn't yield a couple of weeks ago, bloody fuckwit, but does that make you a fuckwit, or for that matter I have a Honda Shadow (I know I Know) but I'm not gay though alright!! Problem is the Guy on the C50T was in my way, I'd just overtaken a truck on double yellow lines and he was riding in the space I needed to pull back into in a hurry and just wouldn't get out of my way, then he had the bloody nerve to give me the fingers. He was a fuckwit wasn't he.

[Taz]

Fair enough, but I have a wee issue with C50T riders, you see one wouldn't yield a couple of weeks ago, bloody fuckwit, but does that make you a fuckwit, or for that matter I have a Honda Shadow (I know I Know) but I'm not gay though alright!! Problem is the Guy on the C50T was in my way, I'd just overtaken a truck on double yellow lines and he was riding in the space I needed to pull back into in a hurry and just wouldn't get out of my way, then he had the bloody nerve to give me the fingers. He was a fuckwit wasn't he.

Did you not give yourself the room you needed to safely complete your manouvre? And that was his fault?

[Smifffy]

In your mind he definitely is, but then you're most likely imagining the entire episode. Enjoy your issue with C50T riders, hell expand it out to all Suzuki riders, some even hate all Japper riders, so what? Am I a fuckwit? I don't think I've done anything particularly fuckwitted lately, there are some on here that think I am, and think I'm retarded as well. There are people at work that disagree with the way I do things as well. Those are their opinions and they are welcome to them, if they are prepared to point out the flaws in my thinking and behaviours, and I accept their arguments then I may try to change my ways.

When I see other people behaving in what I consider to be a fuckwitted manner then I will point it out, explain my POV and ask them to change their ways.

Neither they nor I are forced to change ways, however the other may still hold on to the view that the other is a fuckwit.

As I have posted many many times before, if you want to cast all c50T riders as fuckwits due to your wet dream about one in particular, then that's kinda fuckwitted, IMO.


Fair enough, but I have a wee issue with C50T riders, you see one wouldn't yield a couple of weeks ago, bloody fuckwit, but does that make you a fuckwit, or for that matter I have a Honda Shadow (I know I Know) but I'm not gay though alright!! Problem is the Guy on the C50T was in my way, I'd just overtaken a truck on double yellow lines and he was riding in the space I needed to pull back into in a hurry and just wouldn't get out of my way, then he had the bloody nerve to give me the fingers. He was a fuckwit wasn't he.

[miloking]

OK so you have had a bad experience(?) AS you fell justified calling him a fuckwit, do us here the courtesy of explaining exactly what happened to warrant this, all the details please, his as well as your perspective then we can all determine whether or not the claim and name is justified.

You see it is quite legitimate to call the little Eastern European milkman a fuckwit or a moron because he has laid the evidence before us all here in his ranting and raving, unfounded, with out evidenced postings.

I have posted enough evidence, of my numerous 61 and 63km/h and "incorrectly mounted plate" tickets and constant abuse by cops just because i ride 1000cc bike...do you think i hate cops just because i have nothing else to do???? now who is ignorant...

Want to be specific? Officer A868 is a fuckwit...feel free to say hi to him scumdog..

[phill-k]

In your mind he definitely is, but then you're most likely imagining the entire episode. Enjoy your issue with C50T riders, hell expand it out to all Suzuki riders, some even hate all Japper riders, so what? Am I a fuckwit? I don't think I've done anything particularly fuckwitted lately, there are some on here that think I am, and think I'm retarded as well. There are people at work that disagree with the way I do things as well. Those are their opinions and they are welcome to them, if they are prepared to point out the flaws in my thinking and behaviours, and I accept their arguments then I may try to change my ways.

When I see other people behaving in what I consider to be a fuckwitted manner then I will point it out, explain my POV and ask them to change their ways.

Neither they nor I are forced to change ways, however the other may still hold on to the view that the other is a fuckwit.

As I have posted many many times before, if you want to cast all c50T riders as fuckwits due to your wet dream about one in particular, then that's kinda fuckwitted, IMO.

My mother told me sarcasum was the lowest form of wit - so I'll go again, oh and appreciate your well worded informed reply.

The chap said in a public forum that a particular member of the police force was a fuckwit for the way he dealt with him over a possible infringement issue. I asked him to justify his allegation as obviously the other party probably is not aware of his allegations. Some people here seem to particularly enjoy being abusive against the police, I happen to believe based on my own experiences that the police in NZ are by and large a very upright and honest force who deal with an awful lot of crap that most off us would prefer to ignore, or not be involved with. Many seem to form an opinion that when they get booked for doing 10kms over the speed limit that they should somehow be exempt to such things, and then attack the police in general for thier lack of understanding that it really wasn't dangerous and all that.
Yes I'm sure that as we have a bad day sometimes the response from the said officer to yet another excuse or explanation may not be as well handled as it should be, that's human nature, but it doesn't make them fuckwits.
No I didn't have an issue with a C50T, in fact that was my first choice before the Honda but I managed to get an exemption for the Honda and went with that.
I don't as a rule overtake on yellow lines, I do however exceed the speed limit at times, I consider it safe when I do, I don't put others lives at risk - but you will have to take my word for that, I keep a very good scan going when I ride and realise that if I get nicked, in the eyes of the law the limit is there to protect all road users, the ticket and fine are mine, and I won't bitch about it even if it is 4kms over the limit

[flyingcrocodile46]

As much as it makes those with criticisms of some members of the force, and some policies "cop haters"

Touche :yes:

BTW Opinions don't need to be justified. Either take em or leave em.

[phill-k]

I have posted enough evidence, of my numerous 61 and 63km/h and "incorrectly mounted plate" tickets and constant abuse by cops just because i ride 1000cc bike...do you think i hate cops just because i have nothing else to do???? now who is ignorant...
Want to be specific officer A868 is fuckwit...

Jesus kid, do you not know that the speed limit is 50km and that actually applies to everyone, including little eastern European morons as well. Oh and mount ya bloody plate correctly, don't speed or keep a much better scan going and they might just stop harassing you.

[Smifffy]

My mother told me sarcasum was the lowest form of wit - so I'll go again, oh and appreciate your well worded informed reply.

The chap said in a public forum that a particular member of the police force was a fuckwit for the way he dealt with him over a possible infringement issue. I asked him to justify his allegation as obviously the other party probably is not aware of his allegations. Some people here seem to particularly enjoy being abusive against the police, I happen to believe based on my own experiences that the police in NZ are by and large a very upright and honest force who deal with an awful lot of crap that most off us would prefer to ignore, or not be involved with. Many seem to form an opinion that when they get booked for doing 10kms over the speed limit that they should somehow be exempt to such things, and then attack the police in general for thier lack of understanding that it really wasn't dangerous and all that.
Yes I'm sure that as we have a bad day sometimes the response from the said officer to yet another excuse or explanation may not be as well handled as it should be, that's human nature, but it doesn't make them fuckwits.
No I didn't have an issue with a C50T, in fact that was my first choice before the Honda but I managed to get an exemption for the Honda and went with that.
I don't as a rule overtake on yellow lines, I do however exceed the speed limit at times, I consider it safe when I do, I don't put others lives at risk - but you will have to take my word for that, I keep a very good scan going when I ride and realise that if I get nicked, in the eyes of the law the limit is there to protect all road users, the ticket and fine are mine, and I won't bitch about it even if it is 4kms over the limit

Sorry, I don't see your point. Do you have one?

[Katman]

I have posted enough evidence, of my numerous 61 and 63km/h and "incorrectly mounted plate" tickets and constant abuse by cops just because i ride 1000cc bike...do you think i hate cops just because i have nothing else to do???? now who is ignorant...



Do you really think it's because you ride a 1000cc bike?

Maybe it's just because you're actually a fuckwit who deserves everything he gets.

[miloking]

Jesus kid, do you not know that the speed limit is 50km and that actually applies to everyone, including little eastern European morons as well. Oh and mount ya bloody plate correctly, don't speed or keep a much better scan going and they might just stop harassing you.

Yeah i do know the limit, those speedin tickets didnt bother me that much....what pushed me over the edge was the officer A868 giving me $200(+ 20 demerits) ticket for plate mount that honda sold with the bike (cyclespot north shore) and is manufactured in new zealand (competition werkes mount)...all that made me realize that in my 10 years in NZ i have NOT met decent cop. (meeting KB cops here didnt help either)

Feel free to prove me otherwise....(no more softcock "cry me a river" videos please!)

[phill-k]

Sorry, I don't see your point. Do you have one?

I was in my sarcastic post, levelling that all c50 riders were fuckwits based on my experience in said sarcasm, but in fact should that be a real situation and I had overtaken on yellow lines and barged in on another rider/car what ever I would be the fuckwit.

Likewise the guy said the cop was a fuckwit, but as he didn't justify his statement and explain the circumstances, and it seems some just love to abuse the police, it could well have been he that was the fuckwit not the police officer

[miloking]

Do you really think it's because you ride a 1000cc bike?

Maybe it's just because you're actually a fuckwit who deserves everything he gets.

You know very well that i actualy think cops are fuckers....but iam trying to explain it to myself by blaming it on remote possibility that my bike attracts their attention or something. (so maybe if i rode katana or similar "classic" they will leave me alone?)

[Katman]

(so maybe if i rode katana or similar "classic" they will leave me alone)

Probably not.

You'd probably still be the same fuckwit who attracts attention.

[phill-k]

Yeah i do know the limit, those speedin tickets didnt bother me that much....what pushed me over the edge was the officer A868 giving me $200(+ 20 demerits) ticket for plate mount that honda sold with the bike (cyclespot north shore) and is manufactured in new zealand (competition werkes mount)...all that made me realize that in my 10 years in NZ i have NOT met decent cop. (meeting KB cops here didnt help either)

Feel free to prove me otherwise....(no more softcock "cry me a river" videos please!)

I find it hard to believe that in ten years you have not meet at least one decent cop, oh hang on perhaps you meet them in non "social / friendly" circumstances, been locked up a few times have ya?
As to the plate mount, I'm not familiar with that, but had I purchased something that needed to meet road legal status for the Honda, from their NZ agent and it turned out it wasn't, I'd be less than impressed. You probably would have some grounds for seeking compensation from the dealer under the consumer guarantees act, or via the disputes tribunal, but hay it wasn't the cops fault he was just doing his job.

[Smifffy]

I was in my sarcastic post, levelling that all c50 riders were fuckwits based on my experience in said sarcasm, but in fact should that be a real situation and I had overtaken on yellow lines and barged in on another rider/car what ever I would be the fuckwit.

Likewise the guy said the cop was a fuckwit, but as he didn't justify his statement and explain the circumstances, and it seems some just love to abuse the police, it could well have been he that was the fuckwit not the police officer

Yeah, it could well have been. However, that is his reality. He thinks that cop is a fuckwit, probably a few, or maybe many, others do too. It's an unpopular job, that hasn't changed since they nailed the J man to the cross. Those dudes were only enforcing policy too.

BTW, it wasn't sarcasm, it was a flight of fantasy.

[miloking]

I find it hard to believe that in ten years you have not meet at least on cop, oh hang on perhaps you meet them in non "social / friendly" circumstances, been locked up a few times have ya?
As to the plate mount, I'm not familiar with that, but had I purchased something that needed to meet road legal status for the Honda, from their NZ agent and it turned out it wasn't, I'd be less than impressed. You probably would have some grounds for seeking compensation from the dealer under the consumer guarantees act, or via the disputes tribunal, but hay it wasn't the cops fault he was just doing his job.

As per some of my previous posts..i have met one decent cop, ok correction two....one gave me discount from 70 to under 65km/h (so $80 instead of $120) and another didnt give me "no L plate" ticket when he could have while riding my Bandit while still on Learners...both happened almost 5 years ago.
So there since then only fuckers!!!!!

Also i did dispute it via correspondence....supplied explanation and photos that the rego plate is actualy not obscured and visible and that it was not intentional + bought in NZ + got WOF but cops didnt want to have a bar of that!
So i went to Honda - Cyclespot and was told they sold at least 10+ of those and iam first one to get ticket...ever!

Who should i beleive...so there, my reasons for bagging/painting all cops with same brush!

(of course there is media potrait of NZ police + IPCA findings that didnt help either)

[phill-k]

BTW, it wasn't sarcasm, it was a flight of fantasy.

Yeah ya not wrong, now that I have my full I'm eyeing the C90, just a little bigger for my height

[phill-k]

As per some of my previous posts..i have met one decent cop, ok correction two....one gave me discount from 70 to under 65km/h (so $80 instead of $120) and another didnt give me "no L plate" ticket when he could have while riding my Bandit while still on Learners...both happened almost 5 years ago.
So there since then only fuckers!!!!!

Also i did dispute it via correspondence....supplied explanation and photos that the rego plate is actualy not obscured and visible and that it was not intentional + bought in NZ + got WOF but cops didnt want to have a bar of that!
So i went to Honda - Cyclespot and was told they sold at least 10+ of those and iam first one to get ticket...ever!

Who should i beleive...so there, my reasons for bagging all cops with same brush!

(of course there is media potrait of NZ police + IPCA findings that didnt help either)

OK so spend $20 lodge a claim for the cost of the fine and refund of the mount with the disputes tribunal, take the letter from the police and present that as your evidence - assuming you fitted it correctly, and you will have a pretty good chance of winning.

[miloking]

OK so spend $20 lodge a claim for the cost of the fine and refund of the mount with the disputes tribunal, take the letter from the police and present that as your evidence - assuming you fitted it correctly, and you will have a pretty good chance of winning.

Ok cool thanks for the idea, might actualy do that...btw honda fitted the mount, together with yoshi pipe etc.

BTW it wasnt the ticket that made me think A868 is a dick...it was his first words he said when i got off the bike (helmet off, key off, holding licence in my hand...)...."have i stopped you for the plate before???" no good morning nothing...and when i said no, i bought it just recently he grabed my lincence and started to write ticket and proceeded to tell me bike owner name and my lincence name doesnt match etc. (carjam later confirmed that he was make some bulshit up) clearly just not interested in "human" side of the story...

Either way watern under the bridge now... as i said NZ police feel free to prove me otherwise...

[Katman]

Either way watern under the bridge now... as i said NZ police feel free to prove me otherwise...

Just a wild stab in the dark but.........

I think they probably don't give the slightest fuck about you.

[miloking]

Just a wild stab in the dark but.........

I think they probably don't give the slightest fuck about you.

Yep, exactly what i always thought....no surprises there. Enlighten me, what do they actualy give a fuck about?

[duckonin]

Yep, exactly what i always thought....no surprises there. Enlighten me, what do they actualy give a fuck about?

One word 'Nothing'

[duckonin]

Fair enough, but I have a wee issue with C50T riders, you see one wouldn't yield a couple of weeks ago, bloody fuckwit, but does that make you a fuckwit, or for that matter I have a Honda Shadow (I know I Know) but I'm not gay though alright!! Problem is the Guy on the C50T was in my way, I'd just overtaken a truck on double yellow lines and he was riding in the space I needed to pull back into in a hurry and just wouldn't get out of my way, then he had the bloody nerve to give me the fingers. He was a fuckwit wasn't he.

You had just overtaken a truck on double yellow lines and you call the C50T rider a fuckwit..go figure !!

[jimbo600]

That "innocent young guy" was in fact a car thief and got arrested and successfully prosecuted for theft, you know, the same "thieving scum" that everyone on here goes on about and that the police never catch. The reason for the "harassment" was to engage in conversation to allow time for other police to turn up.

The way I see it is there's traffic and others. Others do a bang up job, traffic sully the force. Traffic hate the others, and the others hate traffic. I also believe that police hierarchy have a mis guided understanding on what really occurring on the roads and quite frankly are not interested.

[monkey99]

I got a ticket for doing 94 on the motorway, at midnight (and empty). fair cop? I was speeding (aside from the 120km/hr design of road..). But i was treated like i was the worst criminal in the world, a full wof inspection on my motorbike and an egoistic attitude like i'd never seen before. If i spoke to my workmates (aside from joking) like that i'd be sacked on the spot for serious misconduct. Stuff em!Strangely enough this has happened to me 4 out the 5 times I've spoken with an Officer in the last 5 years...

I respect the majority & the thankless (usually; as proven here) duties they perform for our society but, I really think that 'Traffic' needs to be seperated from the moniker 'Police' cos some of these geezers on the road are just absolute nutters!! :shifty:

Lets give them a Black & Lime coloured uniform so we can identify them 'Dark' & 'Cowardly' people acting up us self serving supercilious nut fuckers...

Though I have to admit outside of that brief rant... Police chicks I've met are kinda hot ;)

[Jantar]

To all you cop haters that think all police do all day is sit in a bush waiting to give you a ticket for speeding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwXb3p6j6oU

I know this will be wasted on a lot of you as i know your opinion of police is so low becuase you look at your own lives though rose coloured glasses.

If the only work the police had to do was to write out tickets this would truely be a wonderful county in which to live, unfortunately this is not the case.

So its not all about writing tickets?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/124288-Tickets-for-4km-h-over-the-speed-limit-this-weekend

[BoristheBiter]

So its not all about writing tickets?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/124288-Tickets-for-4km-h-over-the-speed-limit-this-weekend

a bit slow today?

[miloking]

a bit slow today?


no he just doesnt have time to be on KB every day....whats do you prefer? Make up your mind!


Eitherway another person that agrees that your thread is a BS...

[BoristheBiter]

no he just doesnt have time to be on KB every day....whats do you prefer? Make up your mind!


Eitherway another person that agrees that your thread is a BS...

and more think your a trolling fucktard. so what does that prove?

[Eyegasm]

and more think your a trolling fucktard. so what does that prove?

Boristhebiter bites again.

Seriously easier to rark you up than a 5 year old. Although argueing with a 5 year old is just as pointless.

Continue.

[miloking]

and more think your a trolling fucktard. so what does that prove?

I think its time for another "calming ride" Boris...and perhaps bed time right after mum tells you good night story.

[scumdog]

You know very well that i actualy think cops are fuckers....but iam trying to explain it to myself by blaming it on remote possibility that my bike attracts their attention or something. (so maybe if i rode katana or similar "classic" they will leave me alone?)

You have a gift oh wise one, relish and cherish it.

I for one am not so lucky....last time I got stopped it was for a booze-bus check coming back from the Brass Monkey 5 years ago..

[wingnutt]

To all you cop haters that think all police do all day is sit in a bush waiting to give you a ticket for speeding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwXb3p6j6oU

I know this will be wasted on a lot of you as i know your opinion of police is so low becuase you look at your own lives though rose coloured glasses.

If the only work the police had to do was to write out tickets this would truely be a wonderful county in which to live, unfortunately this is not the case.

I dont hate cops but I do beleive in a fair go, and common senses, but once you have treated like shit a few times by uniformed bullies, and get tickets for bugger all it starts to piss me off, and now I have the attiude that I wont take any shit from cops, I didnt start my attitude, the cops did!

[Shadowjack]

After following this and other threads...

You have a gift oh wise one, relish and cherish it.
I was going to add..."May the Force be with you"...but there would appear to be no need...as it so obviously is, and seemingly frequently.

[S&M]

Hi there,

I created the video (I'm not a cop) but I sure do appreciate the work the average General Duties (they are not the Traffic cops) does... day in day out...

I too like many on here have dealt with wankers... and can tell stories of useless ones:

Eg. One time my old lady had a stranger on her property late at night in Aranui, Chch, the cop told her to go outside and take a photo?!?!? They sent a security guard around 2 hours later....

Another time my gf's 5 year old brother (doesnt speak english) was lost (xmas at the park) and a cop ignored him... however another cop put him on his shoulders and helped us find him...

Then again on the flipside I remember being picked up by cops from school and mother escorted away from a violent drug addict bf...

Everyone despises traffic cops, but they are doing a job they are paid to do... just like parking wardens... The public would be surprised the number of times traffic stops result in arrrests for serious offending (drugs, theft, etc.). Unlike GDB they very rarely have stab proof vests on, yet many are confronted daily with violence or threats of violence.

Like I said at the top there are some shit cops, and I defnitely do not deny there has been some corruption and bad buggers (clint rickards etc.)... however it is impossible to prevent this as our cops can only be human and reflective of our society... Cops are humans, there are bad ones, middle of the range ones, and good ones. Some join for power, the image etc. The majority join to make a difference (many as you can imagine get tired down dealing with the crap and cross the line)..

I have worked alongside cops and seen how they get treated and what they have to do (no overtime pay, going to court to testify and being called a liar by a paid liar (lawyer) on their days off) and I received roughly the same salary for no risk or sacrifice..

The two books that I think are being referred to are Cover ups & cop outs by Tom Lewis and Colour of Right by Trevor Martin... I have both books and have read quite a few times...

If anything they are reminder to stay the course. With the emergence of Organised Crime and big time Meth problem you will see a rise in Police Corruption in NZ soon unfortunately, as with other government departments.... this is what happens when Government does nothing to effectively stamp it out..

I make the videos on youtube to give acknowledgement and a kia kaha message to those 95% of cops who stay the course and do what is right in the face of all their adversities internal and external.. because lets face it they dont get a hell of a lot of good publicity, commendation, or coverage for the good they do everyday, putting their lives at risk..

[wingnutt]

Funnily enough, while I am highly annoyed still after being treated shabbily by them, I do believe they are needed on our roads, without them it would be a bloody mess.
I used to have the greatest respect for them, and I still understand they have to put up with a fair bit of nonsense, but when you get stopped and treated like shit at checkpoints, receive tickets that are bordering on legalized theft, that respect goes out the window, and I’m afraid I’m angry enough, that if I ever see I cop in trouble, I will walk the other way.

[FJRider]

... and I’m afraid I’m angry enough, that if I ever see I cop in trouble, I will walk the other way.

Post photo's of all your vehicles / rego number and post address, so if ever you require help ... they may do the same ...

[98tls]

I dont hate cops but I do beleive in a fair go, and common senses, but once you have treated like shit a few times by uniformed bullies, and get tickets for bugger all it starts to piss me off, and now I have the attiude that I wont take any shit from cops, I didnt start my attitude, the cops did!

Be sure and post up how that works out for ya.:killingme:killingme:thud:

[miloking]

Hi there,

I created the video (I'm not a cop) but I sure do appreciate the work the average General Duties (they are not the Traffic cops) does... day in day out...

I too like many on here have dealt with wankers... and can tell stories of useless ones:

Eg. One time my old lady had a stranger on her property late at night in Aranui, Chch, the cop told her to go outside and take a photo?!?!? They sent a security guard around 2 hours later....

Another time my gf's 5 year old brother (doesnt speak english) was lost (xmas at the park) and a cop ignored him... however another cop put him on his shoulders and helped us find him...

Then again on the flipside I remember being picked up by cops from school and mother escorted away from a violent drug addict bf...

Everyone despises traffic cops, but they are doing a job they are paid to do... just like parking wardens... The public would be surprised the number of times traffic stops result in arrrests for serious offending (drugs, theft, etc.). Unlike GDB they very rarely have stab proof vests on, yet many are confronted daily with violence or threats of violence.

Like I said at the top there are some shit cops, and I defnitely do not deny there has been some corruption and bad buggers (clint rickards etc.)... however it is impossible to prevent this as our cops can only be human and reflective of our society... Cops are humans, there are bad ones, middle of the range ones, and good ones. Some join for power, the image etc. The majority join to make a difference (many as you can imagine get tired down dealing with the crap and cross the line)..

I have worked alongside cops and seen how they get treated and what they have to do (no overtime pay, going to court to testify and being called a liar by a paid liar (lawyer) on their days off) and I received roughly the same salary for no risk or sacrifice..

The two books that I think are being referred to are Cover ups & cop outs by Tom Lewis and Colour of Right by Trevor Martin... I have both books and have read quite a few times...

If anything they are reminder to stay the course. With the emergence of Organised Crime and big time Meth problem you will see a rise in Police Corruption in NZ soon unfortunately, as with other government departments.... this is what happens when Government does nothing to effectively stamp it out..

I make the videos on youtube to give acknowledgement and a kia kaha message to those 95% of cops who stay the course and do what is right in the face of all their adversities internal and external.. because lets face it they dont get a hell of a lot of good publicity, commendation, or coverage for the good they do everyday, putting their lives at risk..

Hey, ok lets say i more or less agree with what you said in your post, but what are we going to do about that 5% of rotten fuckwit cops that are ruining the police image, give nonsense tickets out of spite, spend all day trolling on KB instead of doing "safer communities together" thing?

[caseye]

NOW there is a good question!

[madbikeboy]

Okay, I didn't read all 15 pages of shit on this thread, mostly because my attention span is too short.

My new(ish) girlfriend is a nurse. First time I've dated someone other than accountant chick, lawyer chick, stripper chick (was kidding about the lawyer chick). I turned up at her clinic a few weeks ago for the first time to deliver a nice lunch to her (the cafeteria has a health warning label of its own). A busy day for me is when I have 3 meetings. A busy day for her is when she has queues of people out the door - and most of them seem to be bleeding.

This has a point.

As a nurse, she budgets very carefully each month, she works out how many times she can buy her lunch each month, and when she can buy a new pair of shoes. She earns about the same as a cop - plus or minus. So, they don't do it for the money. There are some cops that are assholes, but I can name at least five people here on this site that I'd lend a match to if they were doused in kerosine. I've met asshole cops, Ginga being the chief asshole. But, more often than not, I've been treated with respect and professionalism in situations that I deserved less (anyone who rides with me knows I generally deserve the tickets I get on occasion).

I'd like to see the salaries increased for cops and nurses; the measure of value to society is not fairly recognised. I'd have no issue with that, put my tax cut towards that. Not towards supporting assholes living on the dole eating KFC each day.

Point is, the contribution of your average cop or nurse or firefighter or soldier or medic or even GP (which earn money less than you'd imagine on average) is high, we should respect it far higher than we do.

[flyingcrocodile46]

I'd go along with that. It ain't an easy job and if they aren't enjoying it and don't feel that they are appreciated (fair remuneration) then it is likely that they will suffer low self esteem and want to pump themselves up by bringing others down. Kinda like Motherinlaws.

[Berries]

They get paid ?

[red mermaid]

No, the brass sparrow just farts every 2nd week.

Used to be the golden eagle shitting years ago.

[Coldrider]

No, the brass sparrow just farts every 2nd week.

Used to be the golden eagle shitting years ago.now it is just these guys, may the farce be with you http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/7347849/constables-guilty-of-assault/

[miloking]

now it is just these guys, may the farce be with you http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/7347849/constables-guilty-of-assault/

Oh just saw your post now, started new thread with those "news" anyway...well, i though its something worth new thread :)

[duckonin]

You keep calling me a troller but all i want is the proof of what you posted about how corrupt the NZ police are.
If you can show me that then i will take it back untill then you will still be the delusional fuckhead that posts shit he makes up from his head.

Two books u can read Boris as promised (corrupt cops written by a former Dunedin detective sergeant,(Coverups and copouts) by Tom Lewis and (NZ Police shocking truths), plus if in further doubt get in touch with the man.

[BoristheBiter]

Two books u can read Boris as promised (corrupt cops written by a former Dunedin detective sergeant,(Coverups and copouts) by Tom Lewis and (NZ Police shocking truths), plus if in further doubt get in touch with the man.

What man???

[duckonin]

What man???

Fuck are you thick !!! Tom Lewis you dick !!!!!

[Baldy]

yep you are right tickets are instigated from the dept of statistics and every ticket written when i was acop
a copy went to them and every area has its quota even now,then it was parking offences ,infringements,
speeding ,heavey traffic,accident promoting dangerous






live to ride ,ride to live. baldy

[BoristheBiter]

Fuck are you thick !!! Tom Lewis you dick !!!!!

I was just being funny, as in "the man".
So Fuck you, as you have said before go get a sense of humor.

[Taz]

It's all about revenue. Camera van sitting at the end of overtaking lane today. Must be a black spot eh.

[scumdog]

It's all about revenue. Camera van sitting at the end of overtaking lane today. Must be a black spot eh.

Ah well, some pay.

I don't

[Blinkwing]

It's all about revenue. Camera van sitting at the end of overtaking lane today. Must be a black spot eh.

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According to the almighty stuff website news thingybob - "it's too early to say whether we will introduce it permanently, says Paula Rose"...."police had assured the AA that they were not targeting the end of overtaking lanes, and they were also targeting slow drivers who hold others up". They also said it would be some time before the total tally of tickets (good alliteration there) would be known from this weekend but at this stage it was significantly less than they'd expected.

wat? I'm so confused.

[Baldy]

mother in laws ok i got mine a job, house free, rent free, power free, crash helmet and jacket provided
'' test pilot on a broom factory'' baldy


live to ride ,ride to live

[Taz]

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wat? I'm so confused.

Someone didn't get the official memo..... or maybe they got the secret memo? Should have taken a pic just for fun.

[Baldy]

cops going thru speed cameras' with out there lights flashing on a genuine chase' have to pay there own fines! baldy

[Gibbo89]

I think police officers select their line of work because it suits their psychological profile. No person goes into a job they hate. Cops become cops because it compliments their own personality. They like it.

Steve

have to agree with that.

[scumdog]

I think police officers select their line of work because it suits their psychological profile. No person goes into a job they hate. Cops become cops because it compliments their own personality. They like it.

Steve

And they all have different personalities, eh.?

[duckonin]

I was just being funny, as in "the man".
So Fuck you, as you have said before go get a sense of humor.

Boris matey, I thought we were getting on 'so well together'....

[Smifffy]

have to agree with that.

Chalk it up!

oh wait... ;)

[BoristheBiter]

Boris matey, I thought we were getting on 'so well together'....

Must have been before my second coffee.

[miloking]

It's all about revenue. Camera van sitting at the end of overtaking lane today. Must be a black spot eh.

Accodrding to AA, Police promised/confirmed that end of overtaking lanes wont be targeted (especialy during this 4km/h blitz over Queens Bday)......hmm, Lies its ALL just dirty lies!

[duckonin]

Must have been before my second coffee.

Drug addict Huh ? and you drive also ?

[BoristheBiter]

Drug addict Huh ? and you drive also ?

Arn't we, don't we all?