RAF Harrier crash lands

[nudemetalz]

This happened May 2009 in Kandahar in Afghanistan,..apparently caused by a control malfunction.
Interesting how long he stayed with it before pulling on the Martin-Baker zero/zero !!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viBxzd8T0RY

[Quasievil]

Shit that was cool, I guess from looking at it once the flames where around the cockpit he thought RIGHT TIME TO GO !!
Possibly not alot of fuel on board so maybe his original plan was to ride it out ? who knows

[Edbear]

Shit that was cool, I guess from looking at it once the flames where around the cockpit he thought RIGHT TIME TO GO !!
Possibly not alot of fuel on board so maybe his original plan was to ride it out ? who knows

Yup! Respect anyway!

[Ronin]

Only the British are classy enough to crash then eject.

[schrodingers cat]

Pretty impressed how high it shot him. They must go off with a wallop

[nudemetalz]

Pretty impressed how high it shot him. They must go off with a wallop

Here's the details on the ejection seat
http://www.martin-baker.com/products/Ejection-Seats/Mk--12H---Harrier.aspx

Also here's a cool pic posted in the Daily Sun of the same "landing".....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/turbo_NZ/HarrierSundayTimes17may2009Img_6195.jpg

[flyingcrocodile46]

If it shot him any lower the chute wouldn't have deployed quick enough to soften his landing. Concerns in that respect may explain why ge didn't eject till the flames were licking at him

[Usarka]

If it shot him any lower the chute wouldn't have deployed quick enough to soften his landing. Concerns in that respect may explain why ge didn't eject till the flames were licking at him

Worked as advertised. they're designed to work at zero feet / zero knots hence the zero/zero in the op....

Be fucked if you're going backwards at Lake Eyre in aus (-50ft) :wacko:

[paturoa]

Guys in the fire trucks must have been wonderring what sort of bang bang stuff was on the plane as they got closer!

[toycollector10]

Hot and high (elevation 3312 ft above Mean Seal Level), a heavy aircraft, big sink rate and "a bit late on the round-out Hoskings" Ptwaaaang.....

My favourite below.

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[Milts]

Insanely cool footage! Very rare to have footage of a modern fighter jet crashing and not exploding on impact. Shows just how solid the aircraft are, too.

I suspect he didn't eject earlier because although the seats will get you out alive at 0/0 as has been posted, they aren't exactly gentle on the human body: does seriously bad shit to your spine. I think if you're in three ejections during your career, you're no longer alowed to fly for health reasons?

[Hans]

Guys in the fire trucks must have been wonderring what sort of bang bang stuff was on the plane as they got closer!

Too right. They did look rather cautious, a?

[CookMySock]

Shit that was cool, I guess from looking at it once the flames where around the cockpit he thought RIGHT TIME TO GO !! Possibly not alot of fuel on board so maybe his original plan was to ride it out ? who knowsOften the tower will call it, as he has his hands full at the time. What is more interesting, is he walked away from the zero-zero seat - they can be fairly brutal.

Steve

[CookMySock]

Hot and high (elevation 3312 ft above Mean Seal Level), a heavy aircraft, big sink rate and "a bit late on the round-out Hoskings" He could climb couldn't he? All good then! :niceone:

I've been in a fletcher that wouldn't, and in a Cherokee six that needed a notch of flap to get over the fence.. Fun!

Steve

[marty]

Hot and high (elevation 3312 ft above Mean Seal Level), a heavy aircraft, big sink rate and "a bit late on the round-out Hoskings" Ptwaaaang.....

My favourite below.


not sink rate - just a long time between v1 and rotate...

I used to work with a guy who was a flight engineer on the first of the Air NZ 747-200s. Full and heavy out of LAX for AKL on a 25 departure (over the sand dunes) - could be up to 15 seconds between v1 and rotate, then the radar altimeter would give a " 50' " warning as NZ1 Heavy limped out over the sand dunes.

I have seen the AN124 take off out of Auckland full of America Cup boats and watch it be only 500' above Manukau City on the climb out. they sit at the end of the runway at full power for 60 seconds prior to takeoff - if the engines don't fail in that minute, they probably won't fail on the flight, so they're good to go....

http://www.airliners.net/photo/0884074/L/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhDMQOGy_oY

Galaxy seems to rotate a little earlier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldP5fbPh5Lc&feature=related

74-2 using it all.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXkSQW3xul8&feature=related

[Usarka]

Yeah this one's got lift problems too.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtqasYWfDUM&feature=related

[schrodingers cat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtqasYWfDUM&feature=related

If I was an American taxpayer I'd take a lot of pleasure from watching that!

[flyingcrocodile46]

If I was an American taxpayer I'd take a lot of pleasure from watching that!

As you gorged yourself on Twinkeys, Cheeseballs and Bonbons

[toycollector10]

Marty and Dangerousbasterd, I was commenting on the arrival of the Harrier, the departing IL76 is just for fun.

I do know the difference between an arrival and a departure, boys!

I also loved the Cherokee 6...But just me and three hours gas, not loaded up....&*(#$%^&@

[marty]

re-reading your post carefully, i see your intent...

[Urano]

uhm...
it actually seems an human error to me...
the engine revs up, the pitch goes up... only too late... he probably messed up with landing weight and target speeds, maybe thought to be lighter or something similar.
as for the ejection, it is not a garden walk: the mb seat kicks you in the ass pretty heavy, so if you can avoid is always better.
aside that he could have no exactly idea of the airplane damages, so he would have thought to have simply crashed a landing gear and hoped to keep damages low.
he ejected only when flames got around the cockpit, so he probably got scared of a possible explosion...






Only the British are classy enough to crash then eject.
LOL!



Be fucked if you're going backwards at Lake Eyre in aus (-50ft) :wacko:

reLOL!!!


Hot and high (elevation 3312 ft above Mean Seal Level), a heavy aircraft, big sink rate and "a bit late on the round-out Hoskings" Ptwaaaang.....

My favourite below.

he was completely crazy.
i understand military operations have lower safety procedure than civilian, but judging from the tower comments he was a fool.




not sink rate - just a long time between v1 and rotate...
I used to work with a guy who was a flight engineer on the first of the Air NZ 747-200s. Full and heavy out of LAX for AKL on a 25 departure (over the sand dunes) - could be up to 15 seconds between v1 and rotate,

well "up to 15 seconds" means not to much... it depends on how much runway you have left.
normally on civilian operations you use a "balanced" runway, which means that you adjust your speeds to match the distance you'd need to go to the distance you'd need to stop, and keep it equal to the runway you actually have in front of you.
when you reach the vr there is no good reason to remain on the ground, stated that you don't want to blow all your tyres at once...
so he likely to have reached the vr when he rotated the airplane, which is pretty close the end of the runway.
but it's clear that if the v1 (v1 is the so called "decision speed": until that you have enough space to stop the plane if something goes wrong, over that you have to take off, 'cause you cannot stop it inside the runway anymore...) has been reached, let's say, 15 seconds before, and exactly at the v1 an engine blowed up, he had to continue the acceleration anyway with less thrust and there would have been no way for him to keep the airplane inside the runway or take off safely...
it's true that a 4 engine has less thrust reduction than a twin in case of failure, but he couldn't have done it anyway.
it seems also that he has pretty large problems of climb gradient, after the takeoff: he was probably much heavier than the safe in those conditions.

[EJK]

For the first few seconds I think he was like "It's aight! All good, this is normal!" till the flames got to the cabin.

[quickbuck]

For the first few seconds I think he was like "It's aight! All good, this is normal!" till the flames got to the cabin.

Sort of reminds me of the final landing in the film "Hot Shots"

[shafty]

The Firemen must've been having Smoko lol then put the cookies away....