Number plates

[sAsLEX]

How visible do they "need" to be?

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[Gibbo89]

meh, where else would you put it? unless it can be straightened to be readable from the back then id keep it where it is. and if a copper did say anything then just play the innocent card. it's what I would do... not sure how legal my thoughts are though

[sAsLEX]

You can read it from behind, tested sitting in my commodore and from that height it is easy to read (now that I cleaned the plate) but up close and from higher it becomes difficult to read....

[AllanB]

IMO you don't have a hope in ehell of getting away without being pulled over.

Somewhere on here is a thread of a similar one that he was contesting in court - don't know the result.

[oldrider]

You can read it from behind, tested sitting in my commodore and from that height it is easy to read (now that I cleaned the plate) but up close and from higher it becomes difficult to read....

With my concentration deficit, I would soon just be looking at your bum and never be able to read the plate!

[Winter]

Mine is a very similar set-up. I've had it on for 6 months, not been pulled up yet.

I read the rule as 'clearly visible from behind'.. And i did a similar test.. I can read it. not my fault if copper forgot his glasses!

[Gubb]

Seems like you're prodding a sleeping Pitt bull with a very pointy stick.

[oldrider]

Seems like you're prodding a sleeping Pitt bull with a very pointy stick.

A very "short" pointy stick at that!

[SMOKEU]

IMO you don't have a hope in ehell of getting away without being pulled over.

Somewhere on here is a thread of a similar one that he was contesting in court - don't know the result.

It's not like the cops give a fuck; the fucking stupid comms pigs will order an abandon chase at any minor sniff of danger. These days you can rob a bank with a shotgun without fear of being chased for more than 5 minutes.

[JR1]

Seems like you're prodding a sleeping Pitt bull with a very pointy stick.

haha!

..yeah real borderline man.

[scorry]

How visible do they "need" to be?

210166

210167

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i had mine bent down a bit more than that on my blade mate
passed a vtnz wof and that would have been my argument too
did used to rub the rear hugger 2 up sometimes tho

[Swoop]

It's not like the cops give a fuck; the fucking stupid comms pigs will order an abandon chase at any minor sniff of danger. These days you can rob a bank with a shotgun without fear of being chased for more than 5 minutes.
Tui advert material, to be sure.

[rickstv]

Bloody perfect for the Silverdale to Puhoi motorway.:Punk::wari:

Rick.

[st00ji]

perhaps someone would like to do some tests on the optimal angle to avoid getting ticketed by stationarys (which tend to sit a fair bit higher than your average cops head) and also avoid unfriendly attention from the flesh & blood ticketing machines.

[sAsLEX]

Rolled past a cop this morning in lane 2A, neither the plate, nor the blatant splitting past got a reaction......

Testing continues

[miloking]

IMO you don't have a hope in ehell of getting away without being pulled over.

Somewhere on here is a thread of a similar one that he was contesting in court - don't know the result.

It was me Allan...

This is my CBR (purchased like this and plate is clearly visible while about 20m behind bike and knee high level, mount is on hinge and has roler on the bottom to move slightly when hugger touches it)
Also bike has valid WOF from VTNZ.

3 months ago got pulled over and got $200 (+25 demerits..new "law") ticket for it....
No speeding, dodgey riding etc..i was on the drive way already when he blasted his lights on and this was the only reason for me being targeted and fined.
I have to add that cop was a utter motherfucking dickhead (Officer ACD868 if you ever have the pleasure to meet him - patrols North shore in undercover Maxima and was pretty rude)... but since we know most of them are its likely other ones would react to such a plate mount same way

its a mount made by company Comp. Werkes and sold legaly in NZ by Honda Dealers, (like Cyclespot in Takapuna who also fited this one to the bike who also told me they sold quite a few of them and none so far complained about ticket)

Obviously it was and honest mistake on my behalf since i got the bike this way and previous owner had no issues....and warning from the cop would have sufficed for me to change the mount but since he gave me ticket and wouldnt have a bar of my explanation....i now choose to continue riding with this mount and give the fuckers middle finger just out of spite!


Edit: it doesnt help the cause that cyclespot Honda choses to sell this mount on trademe advertised with words "HIDE your plate" :( (WTF is wrong with them!!!)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Other/auction-296386414.htm

I can honestly say that the spring loaded mount is purely to return plate to its orignal position as it rides up and down the hugger and has nothing to do with "hiding the plate" so realy thanks Cyclespot Honda :(

I will be going to Cyclespot to present their manager with the ticket and print out of the TM add and request refund for the cost of mount (got receipt from previous owner) because as far as iam concerned this TM add is likely cause for anyone with these mounts to get a ticket in a future.....

**ok my rant over**

[st00ji]

cool! now blat past a stationary and see if you get a ticket in the mail :D

im picking in most cases it'll be something they will ping ya on when they have pulled you up on some other misbehaviour and want to be cunts.

PS milo i will be interested to hear the outcome of your dispute, sounds like a bit of a joke from the police side of things to me.

(at least from the way you tell it hehe)


Rolled past a cop this morning in lane 2A, neither the plate, nor the blatant splitting past got a reaction......

Testing continues

[onearmedbandit]

It's not like the cops give a fuck; the fucking stupid comms pigs will order an abandon chase at any minor sniff of danger. These days you can rob a bank with a shotgun without fear of being chased for more than 5 minutes.

Hmmmm that probably has something to do with public safety, which everyone jumps up and down about when an offenders car crashes into an innocent victim. Fuck I'd hate to be a cop, damned if you do and damned if you don't.

[Urano]

uhm...
it seems a paradise... :D :D

here it has to be not more than 40° from the vertical, at the very end of the bike.
and it's much larger than yours...

actually, i can't blame the cops this time... if the plate is not clearly visible everyone can run away after having killed a baby...
at that point don't even put it on..

[miloking]

cool! now blat past a stationary and see if you get a ticket in the mail :D

im picking in most cases it'll be something they will ping ya on when they have pulled you up on some other misbehaviour and want to be cunts.

PS milo i will be interested to hear the outcome of your dispute, sounds like a bit of a joke from the police side of things to me.

(at least from the way you tell it hehe)

Well, since then i rode past cops few times (meaning they were right behind me) and nothing...so it feels like it was a "one off" because officer cunty had his period that day or something...
And i also wrote to our dearest police a letter saying that plate is clearly visible and there was no intention on my behalf to hide it, to which they replied that plate "was at the time of ticket, mounted at 45 degree angle and when supension is compressed plate is pushed further to even bigger angle..." therefore i deserved my ticket bla bla...
I dont dispute that but even when iam sitting on the bike it is still visible just fine...but it seems that police is coming down hard on any dubious plate mounting (therefore the new legilation with demerits added to plate offences)....i blame fucking "wannabe gangsta" boyracers for this and their retarded plates behind the windscreen on the dash :(

Also since the "incident" i redrilled the holes in a plate and managed to fit it approximately 1.5cm higher than on the photos (so hugger is definately not blocking the lower part of it) so will see....but still if i get a refund from honda i wil get different mount that sits higher or mounts to the muffler or something....

[Hiflyer]

(Officer ACD868 if you ever have the pleasure to meet him - patrols North shore in undercover Maxima and was pretty rude)...

'Aint that the loveable Ginga?
He's a bit famous up around Rodney as well

[GOONR]

'Aint that the loveable Ginga?
He's a bit famous up around Rodney as well

Yup, it's him.

[Stirts]

3 months ago got pulled over and got $200 (+25 demerits..new "law") ticket for it....
No speeding, dodgey riding etc..i was on the drive way already when he blasted his lights on and this was the only reason for me being targeted and fined.
I have to add that cop was a utter motherfucking dickhead (Officer ACD868 if you ever have the pleasure to meet him - patrols North shore in undercover Maxima and was pretty rude)... but since we know most of them are its likely other ones would react to such a plate mount same way

Yep, I got pulled over after the Kaimais in January and also got a ticket of $200 +35 demerits for “failure to display registration plate in the correct manner”

Explaining that the bike had been lowered by 38mm and this was my first ride on my new-to-me-bike, and that I did not realise that the plate was slighty “obscured” did not seem to matter to him – he simply stated that “we are sick and tired of you lot hiding plates, speeding and doing runners, we are cracking down on you lot”

He then asked why I had not pulled over sooner. I said that this was the safest part of the road for me to stop (pulled me over on road-works with lose gravel piled high on the sides of the road) realising that he was an angry little man I knew a ticket was to come so feck it “what are you doing pulling motorcyclists over in the middle of road-works like this anyway, it is just farking dangerous’!

Anyway… as he was writing the ticket, he mumbled something about applying for compliance – but didn’t write it on the ticket. I EVENTUALLY found out how to go about getting compliance – got him to write it on the ticket, put the fugly original spade and plate mount back on the bike, they took some photos and lodged the compliance request.

Got the letter stating “offense waived”, the next day the plate was mounted back where it should be…..albeit a little further forward to adjust for the now short-arse setting on my bike.

Got pulled up a few weeks later by a different officer – “yes I have been pulled up for my plate before, I moved it, they took photos, it’s on file, and I got compliance for this” :shifty:

Have been past plenty of officers since with no issues at all. :D


so it feels like it was a "one off" because officer cunty had his period that day or something...

I dont dispute that but even when iam sitting on the bike it is still visible just fine...but it seems that police is coming down hard on any dubious plate mounting (therefore the new legilation with demerits added to plate offences)....

I know for a fact that police are “coming down hard” on motorcyclist full-stop in the BOP, quite a few of us have been pulled up for little or no reason and told exactly that.

[nodrog]

Yep, I got pulled over after the Kaimais in January and also got a ticket of $200 +35 demerits for “failure to display registration plate in the correct manner”

Explaining that the bike had been lowered by 38mm and this was my first ride on my new-to-me-bike, and that I did not realise that the plate was slighty “obscured” did not seem to matter to him – he simply stated that “we are sick and tired of you lot hiding plates, speeding and doing runners, we are cracking down on you lot”

He then asked why I had not pulled over sooner. I said that this was the safest part of the road for me to stop (pulled me over on road-works with lose gravel piled high on the sides of the road) realising that he was an angry little man I knew a ticket was to come so feck it “what are you doing pulling motorcyclists over in the middle of road-works like this anyway, it is just farking dangerous’!

Anyway… as he was writing the ticket, he mumbled something about applying for compliance – but didn’t write it on the ticket. I EVENTUALLY found out how to go about getting compliance – got him to write it on the ticket, put the fugly original spade and plate mount back on the bike, they took some photos and lodged the compliance request.

Got the letter stating “offense waived”, the next day the plate was mounted back where it should be…..albeit a little further forward to adjust for the now short-arse setting on my bike.

Got pulled up a few weeks later by a different officer – “yes I have been pulled up for my plate before, I moved it, they took photos, it’s on file, and I got compliance for this” :shifty:

Have been past plenty of officers since with no issues at all. :D



I know for a fact that police are “coming down hard” on motorcyclist full-stop in the BOP, quite a few of us have been pulled up for little or no reason and told exactly that.


you are naughty, they just wave at me.

[Stirts]

they just wave at me.

Yeah while standing in the middle of the open road, trying to stop you. :gob: :nono:

How is the naughty pink gay porn room by the way :lol:

[nodrog]

How is the naughty pink gay porn room by the way :lol:

its awesome, makes me want to buy a virago.

[sAsLEX]

Yep, I got pulled over after the Kaimais in January and also got a ticket of $200 +35 demerits for “failure to display registration plate in the correct manner”

Where are the regs on displaying plates?

I couldn't find any.

Not in the http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/virm-in-service-certification/virm-in-service-certification.html#general

[Stirts]

Where are the regs on displaying plates?

I couldn't find any.

Not in the http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/virm-in-service-certification/virm-in-service-certification.html#general

EXACTLY - we couldn't find any either - the most "detail" that we have ever found is "most rear part of the motorcycle" / "You must securely fix and clearly display the registration plate at the rear of your vehicle" or some such BS.... a very grey area!!!

[miloking]

EXACTLY - we couldn't find any either - the most "detail" that we have ever found is "most rear part of the motorcycle" / "You must securely fix and clearly display the registration plate at the rear of your vehicle" or some such BS.... a very grey area!!!

Yep, i didnt find anything either apart from some general bull about plates not being obscured of misleading....but nothing about 45 degrees, and not allowed to be hinged etc. so yeah ginga ninja just proved the point that some fuzz has some major hatred going against motorcyclists.

[nodrog]

Where are the regs on displaying plates?

I couldn't find any.

Not in the http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/virm-in-service-certification/virm-in-service-certification.html#general

its not a wof thing, its a law thing, failing to display a registration plate/obstruction of plate.

[sAsLEX]

EXACTLY - we couldn't find any either - the most "detail" that we have ever found is "most rear part of the motorcycle" / "You must securely fix and clearly display the registration plate at the rear of your vehicle" or some such BS.... a very grey area!!!

Most trucks have them at the rear of the chassis not the vehicle, indented from the rear about the same as on my bike, and normally they are covered in so much crap they are completly unreadable, might be time to stop cleaning it and let the chain oiler take it back to its unreadable greatness and not stop...... it sounds like that is what SAM the ginga wants.

[Maha]

you are naughty, they just wave at me.

Your pink bits are truely radiant.
Opps I forgot.....motorbike motorbike motorbike.

[nodrog]

Your pink bits are truely radiant.
Opps I forgot.....motorbike motorbike motorbike.

yep they match the tassles on my virago nicely.

[miloking]

By the way, got my letter with court date today...set for 12th October.

Seems bit faraway but good at least i dont loose the demerit points for while, i dont expect that i have much chance on winning it but dont care about the money... i had to appeal just out of principal because in my opinion this fine is discrimination against minority which motorcyclists definately are, and also i like to waste "their" time.

[brett7777]

so Miloking how'd it go with the court / numberplate thing?
I read on a thread somewhere that someone had already won this sort of case, just looking for that now when I saw your thread.

[Vinz0r]

Yeah fill us in, what happened!

[Hiflyer]

He's in Jail :mellow:

[scumdog]

Seems like you're prodding a sleeping Pitt bull with a very pointy stick.

My thought too.

Wrong cop/wrong day = delay in trip + needless expense

Most of the time you would be OK but it's pushing it...


Of course SMOKEU knows more than me on the subject. (apparently....)

[brett7777]

there's a heap of us out there now with vertical side mounted plates.
Mine got a wof with the vertical side mount.
I know people who have gotten certs & vins with the side mounted plates.
I asked nzta about it, they showed me where the law is on the net. It doesn't say they can't be side mounted & vertical.
They said it's 'an enforcement issue'.
So if a cop didnt like the way your plate was mounted he might give a ticket ('not mounted in the prescribed way').
Then you would need to contest it. Because as long as it's visible it's not actually illegal.

[miloking]

SHORT STORY:
lost court,cop lied,fine reduced by $100 for no intent...


LONG STORY:
Court date was 12th october...i turned up on the bike, Senior constable ACD868 turned up as well.
We both had the same documents, i had his notes from the day and he had photos and letters i had sent in trying to dispute the ticket.

He was asked to take the stand first, and started off by saying that as i drove past him that day(while he was pulling out of gas station) he couldnt read my plate clearly...
then he procceeded to say that i have apparently told him that "i bought the mount so i though its ok to put it on the bike" which was a lie as i clearly told him i bought the bike like that from previous owner, who had the plate mount put on by Cyclespot honda in takapuna when they fitted the yoshi pipe.... (i have reciepts for all that)
He also procceeded to "discredit" my photos i supplied by saying that bike in the picture is on a paddock stand which lifts the bike off the ground & makes plate more visible...like realy WTF? ( also supplied two other pics, with bike on the ground and looks exacly the same as bike is only 5cm in the air on the stand)

Anyway after about 30minute back and forth argument...between him,his lawyer and myself JPs left the court room to decide my fate....

Came back saying that they will reduce my ticket by half as there was no intention from me to hide the plate, but AS OFFICER said he couldnt see it properly that day so he must be right! (i wanted to say something about "optometrist visit" would be beneficial to the constable but decided its not realy worth it...)



On the lighter side...

as i was sitting in the gallery waiting for deliberation, other police officer sat behind me and said "thats a nice blade outside is that yours?" and "why are you here?" ...i explained to him why and he only laughed and said he rides GSXR and if i "loose" the court i should go to Cyclespot and have them to refund me the mount cost as they sold me a illegal mount....but clearly this officer wouldnt give me any such a BULLSHIT ticket for it...

SO Moral of the story, buy these plate mounts/eliminators if you want...but if you get asshole cop you will get a ticket, if you get a good cop you wont.... (you decide yourself how many are assholes and how many are "cool biker cops")

[brett7777]

Those JPs were a bit gutless, cos they split it both ways instead of making a clear decision. At least they halved the fine.
I gather your plate mount was one of those ones where the plate is horizontal & 'angled' so when you look from the rear, the letters are angled away from the viewer. I think those are actually illegal, cos the law says the plate should be 'upright', so you probably did ok, considering.
Thanks for the report back.

[sAsLEX]

cos the law says the plate should be 'upright'

Which one? and where?

[Taz]

They should design those bikes with something that hangs down at the back to attach the plate to IMO.

[pzkpfw]

Which one? and where?

It's not really very clear exactly what they mean by "upright":

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/1995/0136/latest/whole.html#DLM201153


6. Affixing of registration plates (other than trade plates)
Registration plates issued for a motor vehicle shall be displayed as follows:

(a) in the case of a motor vehicle other than a motor vehicle of any of the kinds specified in paragraph (b), one plate shall be displayed on the front of the vehicle and one plate shall be displayed on the rear of the vehicle, and both plates shall be in an upright position and so displayed that every letter, figure, and distinguishing mark on the plate is easily visible:

(b) in the case of any motorcycle, moped, tractor, or trailer, one plate shall be displayed on the rear of the vehicle in an upright position and so displayed that every letter, figure, and distinguishing mark on the plate is easily visible.



Can sideways by classed as "upright"? Does that make the details not "easily visible"?

[brett7777]

nzta were not able to clarify when i rang them, what 'upright' defines.

[popelli]

I got a ticket for an illegal plate once

went to court and defended it

plods refuses to give evidence for the prosecution when they heard my defence

I fought the case on the grounds of safety, the plate as supplied by motor registration and fitted in the manufacturers mount constitutued a dangerous fixture or fitting and as such contravened WOF regulations

had a contact who was an OSH inspector who gave me a very well written statement to the above effect

[rwh]

(b) in the case of any motorcycle, moped, tractor, or trailer, one plate shall be displayed on the rear of the vehicle in an upright position and so displayed that every letter, figure, and distinguishing mark on the plate is easily visible.



Hmm. So every distinguishing mark must be easily visible. Presumably the white bits are not 'distinguishing marks', so don't need to be visible. So you could cover all the white bits in black sticky tape, leaving only the letters and numbers showing through ...

Richard

[pzkpfw]

Hmm. So every distinguishing mark must be easily visible. Presumably the white bits are not 'distinguishing marks', so don't need to be visible. So you could cover all the white bits in black sticky tape, leaving only the letters and numbers showing through ...

Richard

I believe there are other rules about making plates hard to read, to cover things like those louvres that were supposed to make it hard for cameras to read them.

[Vinz0r]

Hmm. So every distinguishing mark must be easily visible. Presumably the white bits are not 'distinguishing marks', so don't need to be visible. So you could cover all the white bits in black sticky tape, leaving only the letters and numbers showing through ...

Richard


Haha, a nice idea, but doing so would mean that the distinguishing marks are no longer distinguishing. All in the intepretation of the text I guess.

[warewolf]

Hmm. So every distinguishing mark must be easily visible. Presumably the white bits are not 'distinguishing marks', so don't need to be visible. So you could cover all the white bits in black sticky tape, leaving only the letters and numbers showing through ...Something along those lines has been done in Aussie. A mining company wanted to mine some limestone containing a significant cave system. The caving fraternity managed to get the cave protected, but by some oversight, a "cave" was defined as the void. So the mining company took the rock away and left the void there. :facepalm:

[rdkls]

I had a mount almost exactly like OP's a couple of months ago, on the daytona.
It saved my ass from a van-mounted roadside camera one night.
However a month after when I was pulled over by a bike cop for speeding, he also did me for obscure plate, ca. $200 and 20 points from memory.
Bit of a gamble I guess, but I'd since gone back to a more-legit mount, and more-sedate riding, for peace of mind.

[discotec]

Old tread, dug up by a google, my little hi-lite of the Year (Mmmm -- longer really)

Was just cruising a long the Wakefeild-Kohatu HWY (6) on the out skirts of Nelson, and got pinged by a pom Cop.
Ok -- was just over the 100k limit, Mmm , So Answered the Question, --- basicly -- But wasn't going to Thank this cop for giving me a ticket.

Then things got Mmmm -- a little heated.
Pom Cop Drags up my -- history, mostly over 20 years ago -- In doing this -- put me in a worst frame of mind.

Anyway-- Cop gets out his Camera and starts taking pics of my 999, which doesn't make me happy, ever worst with the BS answers to my Questions --- Why the Pics --- Cops first two Answers "Because I Can" .
After questioning the pics another two times -- got the Answer "your number plate is pointing towards the sky" --- Ok, its is on a bit of a Angle -- But not by that much, sure the hell isn't "pointing towards the sky"

Long story short, we parted with the the comment from the cop "Tickets will be in the Mail -- Dickhead"

He Then drives a couple hundred meters up the road -- parks up, in less than 2 minutes -- hes off chasing a RAV4.

I Waited a few mintues, and joined the tail end of dozing bikes that came along.

Think there is something in riding alone -- make you a easlyer target???

[Disco Dan]

Scumdog... is this okay :whistle:

http://youtu.be/vbWBEOlwttU

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[scumdog]

Scumdog... is this okay :whistle:


Sure.

Until one day when you're caught with it in the up position.

(A bit like a lot of things in life when caught in the up position;))

But to be honest, I have no idea if the fitting itself constitutes an illegal item)

[Katman]

Old tread, dug up by a google, my little hi-lite of the Year (Mmmm -- longer really)

Was just cruising a long the Wakefeild-Kohatu HWY (6) on the out skirts of Nelson, and got pinged by a pom Cop.
Ok -- was just over the 100k limit, Mmm , So Answered the Question, --- basicly -- But wasn't going to Thank this cop for giving me a ticket.

Then things got Mmmm -- a little heated.
Pom Cop Drags up my -- history, mostly over 20 years ago -- In doing this -- put me in a worst frame of mind.

Anyway-- Cop gets out his Camera and starts taking pics of my 999, which doesn't make me happy, ever worst with the BS answers to my Questions --- Why the Pics --- Cops first two Answers "Because I Can" .
After questioning the pics another two times -- got the Answer "your number plate is pointing towards the sky" --- Ok, its is on a bit of a Angle -- But not by that much, sure the hell isn't "pointing towards the sky"

Long story short, we parted with the the comment from the cop "Tickets will be in the Mail -- Dickhead"

He Then drives a couple hundred meters up the road -- parks up, in less than 2 minutes -- hes off chasing a RAV4.

I Waited a few mintues, and joined the tail end of dozing bikes that came along.

Think there is something in riding alone -- make you a easlyer target???

Wow.

Just....wow.

[Disco Dan]

Sure.

Until one day when you're caught with it in the up position.

(A bit like a lot of things in life when caught in the up position;))

But to be honest, I have no idea if the fitting itself constitutes an illegal item)

I don't actually have that fitted to my current bike just to be clear... however I did toy with the idea of having it on a hinge so that when stationary it sits correctly, but when travelling at speed the wind 'lifts' it...

But yes your right - defo illegal when not visible!

[sil3nt]

Old tread, dug up by a google, my little hi-lite of the Year (Mmmm -- longer really)

Was just cruising a long the Wakefeild-Kohatu HWY (6) on the out skirts of Nelson, and got pinged by a pom Cop.
Ok -- was just over the 100k limit, Mmm , So Answered the Question, --- basicly -- But wasn't going to Thank this cop for giving me a ticket.

Then things got Mmmm -- a little heated.
Pom Cop Drags up my -- history, mostly over 20 years ago -- In doing this -- put me in a worst frame of mind.

Anyway-- Cop gets out his Camera and starts taking pics of my 999, which doesn't make me happy, ever worst with the BS answers to my Questions --- Why the Pics --- Cops first two Answers "Because I Can" .
After questioning the pics another two times -- got the Answer "your number plate is pointing towards the sky" --- Ok, its is on a bit of a Angle -- But not by that much, sure the hell isn't "pointing towards the sky"

Long story short, we parted with the the comment from the cop "Tickets will be in the Mail -- Dickhead"

He Then drives a couple hundred meters up the road -- parks up, in less than 2 minutes -- hes off chasing a RAV4.

I Waited a few mintues, and joined the tail end of dozing bikes that came along.

Think there is something in riding alone -- make you a easlyer target???:lol:

Nice bike.

[scumdog]

Wow.

Just....wow.

Never seen YOU stuck for words before....:eek5:

[discotec]

Scumdog... is this okay :whistle:

http://youtu.be/vbWBEOlwttU

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Had one of these about 4 years ago (slightly different, bought off E-bay). worked well, was fast at flipping the plate (mine one was a flip-a-plate and flipped the other way)
What I didn't like about the model I bought, was the Ugly as Switch it cam with.

These are fine,as long as stated above -- you don't get caught by a cop (pom one at that)

If you do get caught --- things will get messy very, very fast.

as a foot note -- I was told -- a number of years ago --- and this could be BS -- "You Don't Own The Plates" , there for you can not change them or there mounting in anyway.

Any way, I knew when I moved back to Nelson that it was pretty heavily Policed (hence my past history)
But after this afternoons little -- Mmmm -- meeting--- My -- Mmmm --- thoughts ??? of the Police have gone basicly back to what I thought of them 25 plus years ago, when I a teenager.

[scumdog]

But after this afternoons little -- Mmmm -- meeting--- My -- Mmmm --- thoughts ??? of the Police have gone basicly back to what I thought of them 25 plus years ago, when I a teenager.

ALL of them??;)

[discotec]

ALL of them??;)

Na-- not really, But I think the ones here in Nelson -- just have a different way of dealing with things ???

Having been up north for 6 years, forgot what it was like down here -- and the piss poor state of the road repairs here, bad , really bad.

Ahhh--by the way I work split shifts-- and prob. get caught up in at less 2 to 4 traffic (breath testing normally) a day/nite.

Bit of a Police State in Nelson.

[scumdog]

Na-- not really, But I think the ones here in Nelson -- just have a different way of dealing with things ???

Having been up north for 6 years, forgot what it was like down here -- and the piss poor state of the road repairs here, bad , really bad.

Ahhh--by the way I work split shifts-- and prob. get caught up in at less 2 to 4 traffic (breath testing normally) a day/nite.

Bit of a Police State in Nelson.

Hmm, generally I have found the whole on Nelson to be weird - the California of N.Z. - "The land of fruits and nuts")

And yes, I've lived there - but won't again...

[sAsLEX]

Old tread, dug up by a google, my little hi-lite of the Year (Mmmm -- longer really)

Was just cruising a long the Wakefeild-Kohatu HWY (6) on the out skirts of Nelson, and got pinged by a pom Cop.
Ok -- was just over the 100k limit, Mmm , So Answered the Question, --- basicly -- But wasn't going to Thank this cop for giving me a ticket.

Then things got Mmmm -- a little heated.
Pom Cop Drags up my -- history, mostly over 20 years ago -- In doing this -- put me in a worst frame of mind.

Anyway-- Cop gets out his Camera and starts taking pics of my 999, which doesn't make me happy, ever worst with the BS answers to my Questions --- Why the Pics --- Cops first two Answers "Because I Can" .
After questioning the pics another two times -- got the Answer "your number plate is pointing towards the sky" --- Ok, its is on a bit of a Angle -- But not by that much, sure the hell isn't "pointing towards the sky"

Long story short, we parted with the the comment from the cop "Tickets will be in the Mail -- Dickhead"

He Then drives a couple hundred meters up the road -- parks up, in less than 2 minutes -- hes off chasing a RAV4.

I Waited a few mintues, and joined the tail end of dozing bikes that came along.

Think there is something in riding alone -- make you a easlyer target???

Just write in if the ticket arrives, show in a clear politely written letter with images that the plate is visible to the rear.

I never found any legislation that stated anything other than being visible to the rear.