Prognosis please

[Maha]

What could/is the problem with this bike?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=296149537

[Korumba]

Its a fucking Honda!

[Maha]

Its a fucking Honda!

8/10............:laugh:

[nallac]

Its a fucking Honda!

+ 1 to that...

It does sound like the carbies are screwed up,a clean,rejet and balance would be the first step along with plugs & leads.

[Ixion]

Every fucked out bike on Tardme "just needs the carbs doing". It's the universal diagnosis. Smoking, hard starting, erratic idle, rebore time. Engines rooted.

[slofox]

"Every fucked out bike on Tardme "just needs the carbs doing". It's the universal diagnosis. Smoking, hard starting, erratic idle, rebore time. Engines rooted. " = "it's fucked?"

[schrodingers cat]

Strange having a 'top end rebuild' then problems. For no good reason I don't think the owner did the work himself. If there is anything else internal bad it wouod have been pointed out to him. I'd ask who did the work and talk to them.
THe weird idle etc sounds like an air leak

Its a tidy one but you wouldn't want to pay too much

[flyingcrocodile46]

The starting and possibly a lot of the other issues (but probably not the slow dropping of revs when hot) is likely just shitty electrical continuity which might improve a lot with a good clean of all the contacts. Dodgy electrics mean reduced spark which compounds fueling problems. Sounds like the carbs could well benefit from a full strip, proper cleaning and new rubber seals. Previous poster suggested that air could be an issue (which is also likely ... due to old and perishable rubber) replacing the vacuum hose and petcock resolves a lot of common problems on old bikes. Also old perished carb boots (to air box and inlets) and diaphragm slides might be contributing to the problem (check for rev increase while spraying engine start around the carbs). Beyond that, it could be tired or weak coils, faulty reg/rectifier etc etc. Old bikes can be a bit of a mission to diagnose and fix as often symptoms arise that are a result of multiple minor (age related) issues. Bottom line I reckon tired electrics somewhere and fueling issues with the carbs (that balancing alone is unlikely to resolve)

[CookMySock]

Sounds like rings to me. How worn was the head gear?

Steve

[Genie]

Its a fucking Honda!

and it's damn ugly too!

[tri boy]

I'd be replacing the o-rings behind the inlet manifolds while I set the carbs up.
Unless it is billowing smoke on full/heavy throttle loads, the engine top end should be resonable.
Just sounds lean to me, or sticking slide diaphrams. Rolla doors are heavy poor handling pussers. Offer him a grand. MHO

[Rogue Rider]

Its a crappy ol Honda, ugly to boot........ If you like the older style bimini fairing things, look at an XJ600/900 or the larger FJ1200. They are bullet proof mechanically and just as ugly lol.
If you want class, quality and style, don't but a bike with problems, as problems will continue with age.....

[Korumba]

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[Genie]

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[Coldrider]

The integras look like there was a genetic defect at birth, plus it probably only meant to choke on two cylinders, but it should be choked to death.

[nallac]

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Ok then.....

[Korumba]

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[DEATH_INC.]

I'd guess sticking/dirty needle valves, or an air leak.

[nallac]

hey thats the members only area ... you subscribe??? lover

shhhh don't tell everyone.

[Paul in NZ]

Its real problem is an unrealistic owner...

[Ixion]

You need to allow for the Trademe factor.

If I had a bike that was running well then developed starting and misfire problems, I'd suspect electrics

If it was running well and I put it away for a while then it was hard to start and idled rough when I dragged it out, I think crabs and fuel system


But this isn't a bike that was running well then developed problems. It was passed on by a Trademe seller ( who obviously couldn't get it sorted) to a buyer who also hasn't been able to sort it. Realistically, he's probably not telling everything he knows. He's spent $1600 on the top end, I'd bet he didn't do that until he'd tried the cheap and easy fixes first.

Hondas don't usually smoke, smoke, hard starting, rough running is saying maybe worn bores and rings to me

Of course old bikes its always a bit of a lucky dip . You never quite know, just pay your money and are your chances . But myself I like to.factor in the worst likely scenario . Then if it turns out a simple fix I'm ahead of the game

It might.just be old electric and dirty fuel.Or it hmight not. You pays your money and takes your chances.

Still could be a good bike even worst case . Top ends been done, rebore and.bearings maybe $1000 and it'd be a good one

[Mom]

Ok then.....


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You two will get along a treat on July 3rd :yes:

[tri boy]

Its real problem is an unrealistic owner...

and the FVQ(fade very quickly) shocks, and rattly clutch basket, and shitty forks, weak brakes/old brake lines, weak valves, skinny rims, two tonne tare weight, god awful colour scheme, inaccurate speedo, flexy frame, long gear throw between first n second, diabolical cushdrive slack, ................Bonez will buy it in a heart beat:shutup:

[Mom]

and the FVQ(fade very quickly) shocks, and rattly clutch basket, and shitty forks, weak brakes/old brake lines, weak valves, skinny rims, two tonne tare weight, god awful colour scheme, inaccurate speedo, flexy frame, long gear throw between first n second, diabolical cushdrive slack, ................Bonez will buy it in a heart beat:shutup:

Geeze you sound like you are describing the BB, Bonez cant have her.

[Korumba]

You two will get along a treat on July 3rd :yes:

Book us the pool table suite... we met at your 59th last year...

[Mom]

Book us the pool table suite... we met at your 59th last year...

Oh dear God...

59th eh? You will keep.

[nosebleed]

Prognosis?

time + $$

[doc]

It's from Chch. Very dodgy people down there. :shit: Wasn't a trader called Shrek was it ?

[Bender]

Compression test.

[YellowDog]

If it's very cheap and you have time on your hands, then why not?

If it isn't cheap and you don't have the time. Don't.

[Maha]

I dont want to buy the bloody thing, just want to know whats wrong with it.
Its in great nick visually, but then, Dennis Hooper probably said the same thing six months ago.

[avgas]

Check the air pressure. I think there is a vacuum between the ears.

He should have listed it the way I list bikes:
bike is fucked, needs fixing. Going cheap

[nallac]

Book us the pool table suite... we met at your 59th last year...

yes please...last year?...i thought Moms 59th was a couple of years ago,or was that her retirement party?.