Sam's supercharged TL hits 187bhp at first attempt.

[98tls]

Posted up a few pics of this thing in the build stage,its up an running and a 1st up 187 at the rear wheels pretty damn good,he reckons the only thing that stopped 200 was the rev limiter and once its all run in and sorted will be relatively easy to achieve.Nice work by a bloody talented guy.

[Dogboy900]

That is insane!

Is this a drag bike or just a because he can bike??

[crazyhorse]

impressive

[98tls]

That is insane!

Is this a drag bike or just a because he can bike??

Because he can and to be ridden in there hill climb series over there,the TL behind it (silver) has won him many trophies and awhile back he bought a new KTM only to find he went faster on the TL so sold the KTM kept the old S and built this,along the way its dispelled a few myths about TL cases and how much they will take:shifty:Amazing what someone can do in his own shed eh,hes got a pretty good recording set up on the other TL so no doubt will be taped up to this one,will post em up when provides footage.

[AllanB]

Most excellent. Very nice looking pipe work too. And it goes without saying that the USD forks add at least 10hp!

So when do you start on yours?

[98tls]

Most excellent. Very nice looking pipe work too. And it goes without saying that the USD forks add at least 10hp!

So when do you start on yours?

Have mentioned to Sam that a kit for fellow TL nutters would be well received,in the meantime theres this.http://kbsportbike.net/Simply send away my cylinders and receive a set on an exchange basis.

[slowpoke]

Read a tuners report on the TL-R, reckoned they are fuggin' tuff sonsabitches. Not quite as tuff as that, but 1200 kits were mentioned as being no probs, sure does sound like fun!

[98tls]

He sent me this to add to this thread.http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v487/fiche-man/supercharger/videos/?action=view&current=P1010055.mp4

[98tls]

And another.http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v487/fiche-man/supercharger/videos/?action=view&current=P1010054.mp4

[CookMySock]

Are the internals stock?


Steve

[vifferman]

It seems superchargers are a relatively easy way to add some big power.
The A&A supercharger kit for the VFR recently turned out a Vtec VFR in a mild state of tune that dynoed a higher figure on the very same dyno as one of the new BMW1000s. From memory, it was 183hp.

[Grumph]

Very nice work - been there with TQ's and a roadrace bike so I've some idea of the work involved....
Pass on to him though that we found it neccessary to introduce a little slippage into the drive - if the drive has no "give", on overrun you risk shearing the blower shaft.
We finished up using a polyvee belt which will handle the load very well but will also slip slightly on overrun. The toothed belts used initially ripped teeh off regularly.
Any idea what boost he's using ?
Again, nice work.

[cowpoos]

Most excellent. Very nice looking pipe work too. And it goes without saying that the USD forks add at least 10hp!

So when do you start on yours?

USD forks are there from the factory!!

[CookMySock]

we found it neccessary to introduce a little slippage into the drive - if the drive has no "give", on overrun you risk shearing the blower shaft. We finished up using a polyvee belt which will handle the load very well but will also slip slightly on overrun. The toothed belts used initially ripped teeh off regularly.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsional_vibration

Steve

[Grumph]

Not precisely Torsional Vibration - actually simpler.
With a crank driven blower when you back off at say 10grand the engine intenals working against compresion will slow quicker than the blower.
Unless the drive has some form of torque limitaton something's gonna give... Typically teeth ripped off toothed belts - and I've seen a chain drive on a TQ shear the blower shaft.
We went through a rapid development phase some years ago with a roadrace bike - 15lb boost and 12000 rpm brought problems totally different to TQ's - and Drag racing too.
It's an interesting subject and the guy with the TL has done a nice job.

[CookMySock]

Theres a mechanic at the end of my street who broke a crankshaft by removing the front harmonic damper and fitting a larger pulley to gear a supercharger up, and that was with a tiny toyota blower driven with a fanbelt.

If there's anywhere near a "large" sum of money invested, I'd be getting a vibration analysis done real quick. At the very least do a detailed observation of the drive equipment over the entire rev range. Even such a small thing as a belt-fly could set off a nasty resonance somewhere.

If there was a problem, chances are the rider will detect a slight buzz/brrrapp as the engine rolls past the problem area. The narrower the area the larger the Q and therefore the more the risk.

Steve

[Crasherfromwayback]

USD forks are there from the factory!!

Yes...but they look more like GSXR1000 forks than TL forks! Radial mount calipers too.

[imdying]

Are the internals stock?Hell no.

Yes...but they look more like GSXR1000 forks than TL forks! Radial mount calipers too.Yep.

[98tls]

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[trailblazer]

that bike is awesome. That would be totaly insane to ride

[Morepower]

Supercharged TL !! mmmmmm , Is this thing streetable ?

[Morepower]

Theres a mechanic at the end of my street who broke a crankshaft by removing the front harmonic damper and fitting a larger pulley to gear a supercharger up, and that was with a tiny toyota blower driven with a fanbelt.

If there's anywhere near a "large" sum of money invested, I'd be getting a vibration analysis done real quick. At the very least do a detailed observation of the drive equipment over the entire rev range. Even such a small thing as a belt-fly could set off a nasty resonance somewhere.

If there was a problem, chances are the rider will detect a slight buzz/brrrapp as the engine rolls past the problem area. The narrower the area the larger the Q and therefore the more the risk.

Steve

Taking a harmonic balancer off a normally asperated engine would have the same effect . Bloody silly thing to do , harmonics have great destructive properties.

[98tls]

Supercharged TL !! mmmmmm , Is this thing streetable ?

Yep though its intended purpose is hillclimb events.

[sapperj]

He sent me this to add to this thread.http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v487/fiche-man/supercharger/videos/?action=view&current=P1010055.mp4

Hey mate do you have a PW to view those pics?

[Deano]

Yep though its intended purpose is hillclimb events.

Would he be keen to make a trip down under sometime and have a crack at this ?

www.cliffhanger.org.nz (hillclimb page)