Do you know the NZ National Anthem in Maori?

[Gone Burger]

And... is it important to you?

A local man from Palmerston North has started a campaign to get more New Zealanders to learn their national anthem in Maori, in time for the Rugby World Cup.

http://www.3news.co.nz/Proud-Kiwi-starts-campaign-for-NZ-to-learn-Maori-anthem/tabid/423/articleID/161618/Default.aspx

Personally, I think its fantastic that he feels strongly enough to try and do something about it. I do know the words in Maori, although I'm sure I get a word or two wrong. Throughout my schooling years, were were taught both versions of the Anthem, and always sung one after the other. This makes me so proud to be a kiwi when I hear the Maori version sung, but how many people actually know the words?

As the man from Palmerston North said, it might be a rather embarrassing look when the cameras pan through the NZ crowds at the World Cup during the Maori version of the anthem, and few are getting the words right.

I know very little Maori, but I think knowing the Anthem is a good start, and makes me a really proud kiwi gal! :2thumbsup

[hellokitty]

no, it is not important to me but it sounds better in Maori.......

[Taz]

What's Maori?

[Okey Dokey]

I know a lot of folk who don't know the words in either English or Maori :)

[Motu]

What's Maori?

The official language of WINZ.

[Gremlin]

Pokarekare ana... nga wai o Waiapu...

Yeah? Am I doing good so far?

[blackdog]

What's Maori?

Whats the rugby world cup?

[Smifffy]

Can we afford the royalty payments for the Maori version? It does sound better, and I'm all for it, as long as it doesn't cost us a national park.

[Taz]

whats the rugby world cup?

Some thugs ceremony that will cost us tax payers dearly and give NZ very little benefit.

[Kiwi Graham]

Yeah I know it, but only remember it as its sung with others. Tell me to recite it now and I'm stumped. Can recite it in English though!
I think it is important that both parts are known and am happy to belt it out in both languages :)

[blackdog]

as long as it doesn't cost us a national park.

and the 4G frequencies :rofl:

[Kiwi Graham]

Yeah I know it, but only remember it as its sung with others. Tell me to recite it now and I'm stumped. Can recite it in English though!
I think it is important that both parts are known and am happy to belt it out in both languages :)

[Ixion]

Theres a Maori version ? The same thing in maori , not a different song? Seriously?

Anyway, whats wrong with God Save the Queen ? Bet there isn't a maori version of that.

[MadDuck]

And... is it important to you?

NO. And given that most of the All Blacks are probably from the PI I doubt they care either

[Big Col]

I thought ten guitars was the maori national anthem.

[rainman]

The official language of WINZ.

Funny man. BTW the last few times I've been in my local office it's mostly been Chinese (generally with very poor English) waiting in the queue.

[Maha]

Hey He Whore Ha ....something something something?

[Gone Burger]

Hey He Whore Ha ....something something something?

Very close - 10 points for effort :)

[riffer]

Yeah I know it.

And I know what it means.

So what?

[Jantar]

Do you know the NZ National Anthem in Maori?
There is no official New Zealand national anthem in Maori. Check the history of the new Zealand National anthem and you will find we do indeed have 2 national anthems that have equal standing. They are "God Save the Queen" and "God Defend New Zealand" as penned by Thomas Bracken and given the Royal assent in 1976. Although there was a Maori traslation carried out at the request of Governor Sir George Grey in 1878 this was not part of the anthem approved by Her Majesty the Queen.

[schrodingers cat]

Theres a Maori version ? The same thing in maori , not a different song? Seriously?

Anyway, whats wrong with God Save the Queen ? Bet there isn't a maori version of that.

What's God?

More importantly - does everyone know the words to Bliss drink yourself more bliss...

[imdying]

Best Maori song ever yo :Punk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQLUygS0IAQ

[Usarka]

All the maoris will be at the beach.

[rustyrobot]

Oh, I hadn't realised this forum was run by the National Front. Perhaps you'd all be better off learning Deutschland uber alles?

Yes, I know the Maori version, but wouldn't sing loyalty to god and the queen even if you paid me. Well, okay, maybe if you paid me - but not otherwise.

[tri boy]

I quite like the sound of the Maori version, and to be totally honest feel a bit silly not knowing the words after many years of hearing them.
I guess it's a generation thing. My niecess and nephew knock it out with ease.
Guess it is difficult to train/teach older dogs.
I'll give it a crack this season though.

[onearmedbandit]

My 11yr old daughter knows it, and her 3yr old sister has got it pretty down-packed as well. Kids eh, they're like sponges. Good for cleaning up spills.

[MSTRS]

I've never seen the point of it. The mind-numbingly boring English version is enough. Surely.
Besides, does it impart a sense of national "we're all one people" to all? I don't think so.

[Scuba_Steve]

A few months ago me and a couple of workmates found we didn't know how either version of the NZ anthem went, it took about an hour but eventually we managed to remember one which turned out to be the Maori version (think it comes easier as it flows much better) we still had no fucking idea how the english one went (since have worked that one out too).
The things you forget once you leave school ay...

[Indiana_Jones]

I love watching the TV when they sing the anthem before a rugby football match, you hear a mumbled effort from the crowd during the Maori version, then as soon as that stops the entire crowd bursts into life singing it like it should be lol

-Indy

[Corse1]

Surprised myself at the NZ Maori V ireland game last night that I managed to remember the maori version at the start of the game. I like it more than people like my singing!

[Usarka]

Surprised myself at the NZ Maori V ireland game last night that I managed to remember the maori version at the start of the game. I like it more than people like my singing!

I find the maori version much easier to sing - maybe it's the softer consonants (or whatever the tech term is). It raises my score from god-awful to fairly shit-house.

Of course after a couple of jugs I sound like pavaroti. Of course Pavaroti is my dog.....

[Crisis management]

There's even more than one verse, who'd a thunk that?

God Defend New Zealand / Aotearoa
Māori Version
E Ihowā Atua,
O ngā iwi mātou rā
Āta whakarangona;
Me aroha noa
Kia hua ko te pai;
Kia tau tō atawhai;
Manaakitia mai
Aotearoa

Ōna mano tāngata
Kiri whero, kiri mā,
Iwi Māori, Pākehā,
Rūpeke katoa,
Nei ka tono ko ngā hē
Māu e whakaahu kē,
Kia ora mārire
Aotearoa

Tōna mana kia tū!
Tōna kaha kia ū;
Tōna rongo hei pakū
Ki te ao katoa
Aua rawa ngā whawhai
Ngā tutū e tata mai;
Kia tupu nui ai
Aotearoa

Waiho tona takiwā
Ko te ao mārama;
Kia whiti tōna rā
Taiāwhio noa.
Ko te hae me te ngangau
Meinga kia kore kau;
Waiho i te rongo mau
Aotearoa

Tōna pai me toitū
Tika rawa, pono pū;
Tōna noho, tāna tū;
Iwi nō Ihowā.
Kaua mōna whakamā;
Kia hau te ingoa;
Kia tū hei tauira;
Aotearoa

English Version
God of Nations at Thy feet,
In the bonds of love we meet,
Hear our voices, we entreat,
God defend our free land.
Guard Pacific's triple star
From the shafts of strife and war,
Make her praises heard afar,
God defend New Zealand.

Men of every creed and race,
Gather here before Thy face,
Asking Thee to bless this place,
God defend our free land.
From dissension, envy, hate,
And corruption guard our state,
Make our country good and great,
God defend New Zealand.

Peace, not war, shall be our boast,
But, should foes assail our coast,
Make us then a mighty host,
God defend our free land.
Lord of battles in Thy might,
Put our enemies to flight,
Let our cause be just and right,
God defend New Zealand.

Let our love for Thee increase,
May Thy blessings never cease,
Give us plenty, give us peace,
God defend our free land.
From dishonour and from shame,
Guard our country's spotless name,
Crown her with immortal fame,
God defend New Zealand.


So far I've the first line off pat.......

[kave]

You missed the last of the five verses in English:

May our mountains ever be
Freedom's ramparts on the sea,
Make us faithful unto Thee,
God defend our free land.
Guide her in the nations' van,
Preaching love and truth to man,
Working out Thy glorious plan,
God defend New Zealand.

[Gone Burger]

There's even more than one verse, who'd a thunk that?

God Defend New Zealand / Aotearoa
Māori Version
E Ihowā Atua,
O ngā iwi mātou rā
Āta whakarangona;
Me aroha noa
Kia hua ko te pai;
Kia tau tō atawhai;
Manaakitia mai
Aotearoa

Ōna mano tāngata
Kiri whero, kiri mā,
Iwi Māori, Pākehā,
Rūpeke katoa,
Nei ka tono ko ngā hē
Māu e whakaahu kē,
Kia ora mārire
Aotearoa

Tōna mana kia tū!
Tōna kaha kia ū;
Tōna rongo hei pakū
Ki te ao katoa
Aua rawa ngā whawhai
Ngā tutū e tata mai;
Kia tupu nui ai
Aotearoa

Waiho tona takiwā
Ko te ao mārama;
Kia whiti tōna rā
Taiāwhio noa.
Ko te hae me te ngangau
Meinga kia kore kau;
Waiho i te rongo mau
Aotearoa

Tōna pai me toitū
Tika rawa, pono pū;
Tōna noho, tāna tū;
Iwi nō Ihowā.
Kaua mōna whakamā;
Kia hau te ingoa;
Kia tū hei tauira;
Aotearoa

English Version
God of Nations at Thy feet,
In the bonds of love we meet,
Hear our voices, we entreat,
God defend our free land.
Guard Pacific's triple star
From the shafts of strife and war,
Make her praises heard afar,
God defend New Zealand.

Men of every creed and race,
Gather here before Thy face,
Asking Thee to bless this place,
God defend our free land.
From dissension, envy, hate,
And corruption guard our state,
Make our country good and great,
God defend New Zealand.

Peace, not war, shall be our boast,
But, should foes assail our coast,
Make us then a mighty host,
God defend our free land.
Lord of battles in Thy might,
Put our enemies to flight,
Let our cause be just and right,
God defend New Zealand.

Let our love for Thee increase,
May Thy blessings never cease,
Give us plenty, give us peace,
God defend our free land.
From dishonour and from shame,
Guard our country's spotless name,
Crown her with immortal fame,
God defend New Zealand.


So far I've the first line off pat.......


:gob: Well how about that? I sure just learnt something alright. Good stuff, I had no idea about those extra verses. It seems that I have got some learning to do.

Haha first line down pat... it seems I might be in a similar boat.

[PrincessBandit]

You missed the last of the five verses in English:

May our mountains ever be
Freedom's ramparts on the sea,
Make us faithful unto Thee,
God defend our free land.
Guide her in the nations' van,
Preaching love and truth to man,
Working out Thy glorious plan,
God defend New Zealand.

Too right!! I remember hearing one of our past ministers explaining "the nations van" having nothing to do with 4 wheeled transport.

Maori version - yep know the first verse really well, having helped teach it or played it for countless bright eyed and bushy tailed students. Doubt there would be too many teachers around who don't know at least the first verse by heart in Maori.

[scracha]

Maori version - yep know the first verse really well, having helped teach it or played it for countless bright eyed and bushy tailed students. Doubt there would be too many teachers around who don't know at least the first verse by heart in Maori.

Surprised they're not pissing more time and money and forcing kids to learn it in sign language too.

[Naki Rat]

My 11yr old daughter knows it, and her 3yr old sister has got it pretty down-packed as well. Kids eh, they're like sponges. Good for cleaning up spills.


.........
Maori version - yep know the first verse really well, having helped teach it or played it for countless bright eyed and bushy tailed students. Doubt there would be too many teachers around who don't know at least the first verse by heart in Maori.
And there's the rub. The most effective propaganda strategy is to indoctrinate the children, because they are the population of the future. If they are successfully 'brainwashed' then time and progressing age will work in the propagandist's favour. Witness Hitler youth as a demonstration of the strategy :(

[Swoop]

The national anthem is as inspiring as steam off of a turd. It needs Razzmatazzzzzz! Something that uplifts, rather than the monotone crap that is mumbled out at the start of a thugby game.
Have a look at the American or Australian anthems, OR (GASP) the french...:thud:

[rustyrobot]

The national anthem is as inspiring as steam off of a turd.

I couldn't agree more. A poem written by an Irish-born, Australian free-mason - with the music being chosen by a panel of Melbournians. I say just wait until the birth of our glorious republic, lead by President William Apiata, and then we'll choose a new ditty to do our flag-waving by.

[wysper]

Theres a Maori version ? The same thing in maori , not a different song? Seriously?

Anyway, whats wrong with God Save the Queen ? Bet there isn't a maori version of that.


I much prefer the lyrics of the Maori version.

O Lord, God,
of nations and of us too
Listen to us,
Cherish us
Let goodness flourish,
May your blessings flow.
Defend
Aotearoa

Let all people,
Red skin, white skin
Maori, Pakeha,
Gather before you
May all our wrongs, we pray,
Be forgiven
So that we might say long live,
Aotearoa

May it be forever prestigious,
May it go from strength to strength
May its fame spread
Far and wide,
Let not strife
Nor dissension ensue,
May it ever be great
Aotearoa

Let its territory,
Be ever enlightened
Throughout the land,
Let envy and dissension
Be dispelled,
Let peace reign
Over
Aotearoa.

Let its good features endure,
Let righteousness and honesty
Prevail,
Among the people of God
Let it never be ashamed,
But rather let its name be known
Thereby becoming the model to emulate
Aotearoa.


Except for the god bit, i am not in any way religious.

[avgas]

A local man from Palmerston North has started a campaign to get more New Zealanders to learn their national anthem in Maori, in time for the Rugby World Cup.

I would have thought it was more embarrassing to have a whole article about an anonymous man.

[DougB]

I have been lead to believe that our anthem is the only religious one. How can it appeal to the many who have not seen
any proof that any of the gods exist.

[onearmedbandit]

Best Maori song ever yo :Punk:


Fuck, don't let them know that's on youtube. Before you know it they'll be claiming it as their own and we'll be calling it youstube.

[rie]

With some amusement, I have to admit that I only know the anthem in Maori.