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cruza
23rd June 2010, 13:18
See they are talking about this again in the news after the lastest chase death in chch (halswell) .
I sometimes reckon Police are getting to PC , chase the buggers. Seems to me if you know the police will abandon a chase, you would go out of your way to try to get away. Is it just as dangerous to let these morons get away and carry on driving and cause a accident else where?
Toughen up , if they crash and kill someone while under police pursuit , do them for murder.

Ronin
23rd June 2010, 15:47
See they are talking about this again in the news after the lastest chase death in chch (halswell) .
I sometimes reckon Police are getting to PC , chase the buggers. Seems to me if you know the police will abandon a chase, you would go out of your way to try to get away. Is it just as dangerous to let this morons get away and carry on driving and cause a accident else where?
Toughen up , if they crash and kill someone while under police pursuit , do them for murder.

So if the person they kill is your child, your Mother, your sibling then you are fine with this?

Just checking.

JimO
23rd June 2010, 15:50
So if the person they kill is your child, your Mother, your sibling then you are fine with this?

Just checking.

what are the cops supposed to do?? that guy who killed himself in chch got what was coming as far as im concerned

Ronin
23rd June 2010, 16:01
what are the cops supposed to do?? that guy who killed himself in chch got what was coming as far as im concerned

I will clarify. I was not commenting on the police pursuit policy. The OP is obviously ok with innocent bystanders dying, just curious how far his opinion goes.

Foxzee
23rd June 2010, 16:05
See they are talking about this again in the news after the lastest chase death in chch (halswell) .
I sometimes reckon Police are getting to PC , chase the buggers. Seems to me if you know the police will abandon a chase, you would go out of your way to try to get away. Is it just as dangerous to let this morons get away and carry on driving and cause a accident else where?
Toughen up , if they crash and kill someone while under police pursuit , do them for murder.

Please pass on our condolences to your family as they are sitting through a narrow minded murder trial

cruza
24th June 2010, 10:38
So if the person they kill is your child, your Mother, your sibling then you are fine with this?

Just checking.

I wouldn't be fine if 'anyone' got hurt, But would not be aiming my anger at police. Too many are running because they know the police pull out .

cruza
24th June 2010, 10:41
I will clarify. I was not commenting on the police pursuit policy. The OP is obviously ok with innocent bystanders dying, just curious how far his opinion goes.

And your happy these clowns get away to cause a accident somewhere else?

schrodingers cat
24th June 2010, 17:04
Keep a bucket handy when you read this

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3844325/Chase-death-suicide-by-cop-chasing

A poem published in The Press' family notices today described MacKay as a "man of your word" and referred to his death as "suicide by a cop chasing your car".

The poem reads:

"This is a tribute,
From the elite of the street,
Some of Paparua's gangstas,
Brothers in arms in bricks and bars,
Life and death in the fast lane,
We remember your name,
Never narked on no one,
True to the game.

You were a man of your word and very few are,
Suicide by cop chasing your car,
We reminisce about a youngsta,
Who aint no longer with us,
Dead but not gone,
Because through us he lives on,
Still smoking on, still smoking on."

Another notice said MacKay, aka "Fatboy", was "a solid and loyal friend to the end".

I think this dickhead has done society as a whole a favour.

scumdog
24th June 2010, 17:13
Keep a bucket handy when you read this

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3844325/Chase-death-suicide-by-cop-chasing

A poem published in The Press' family notices today described MacKay as a "man of your word" and referred to his death as "suicide by a cop chasing your car".

The poem reads:

"This is a tribute,
From the elite of the street,
Some of Paparua's gangstas,
Brothers in arms in bricks and bars,
Life and death in the fast lane,
We remember your name,
Never narked on no one,
True to the game.

You were a man of your word and very few are,
Suicide by cop chasing your car,
We reminisce about a youngsta,
Who aint no longer with us,
Dead but not gone,
Because through us he lives on,
Still smoking on, still smoking on."

Another notice said MacKay, aka "Fatboy", was "a solid and loyal friend to the end".

I think this dickhead has done society as a whole a favour.

And his mates are pretty much equal to him too!!:rolleyes:

cretins from loser city the lot of them...

AllanB
24th June 2010, 17:38
Someone lunched themselves in Halswell yesterday? Missed that one!

The police are rightly concerned about the danger to Joe Public and his loved ones if they are chasing some plonker doing a runner (plus the officers involved in the chase are at risk the higher the chase speeds get). I believe this is the primary reason for calling off a chase.

I also feel for the police in this situation as all to often there is family and/or media outcry against the police when the offender kills him/herself or their passengers. In theory the police could (and usually do) say the chase had been called off, as indeed any chase is called off as soon as the offender runs into a lamp post.

Side note distraction here:
I ask why is it when there is a train/car accident that the media always report it as a train hitting a car - surely it is the car hitting the train as I have yet to see a train jump a track and aim for a car.

Blackshear
24th June 2010, 18:04
Jesus christ, a triple post?

phill-k
24th June 2010, 18:34
I don't usually get this pissed off about this sort of thing but it is a fucken shame the whole lot of these mongrels weren't in the car with him, fucken waste of oxygen breathing space.

My respect and gratitude goes to the guys who's job was to pursue them, a very difficult job the consequences of which will be with them for a long time, even though you have obviously done the tax payers of NZ a favour.


Keep a bucket handy when you read this

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3844325/Chase-death-suicide-by-cop-chasing

A poem published in The Press' family notices today described MacKay as a "man of your word" and referred to his death as "suicide by a cop chasing your car".

The poem reads:

"This is a tribute,
From the elite of the street,
Some of Paparua's gangstas,
Brothers in arms in bricks and bars,
Life and death in the fast lane,
We remember your name,
Never narked on no one,
True to the game.

You were a man of your word and very few are,
Suicide by cop chasing your car,
We reminisce about a youngsta,
Who aint no longer with us,
Dead but not gone,
Because through us he lives on,
Still smoking on, still smoking on."

Another notice said MacKay, aka "Fatboy", was "a solid and loyal friend to the end".

I think this dickhead has done society as a whole a favour.

phill-k
24th June 2010, 18:41
Actually I've got more to say, its the bloody red wine, time to arm the police then they can just deal to these lower than life forms without the need to put tax paying real NZers at risk - there just solved the pursuit dilemma as well.

scumdog
24th June 2010, 18:49
Actually I've got more to say, its the bloody red wine, time to arm the police then they can just deal to these lower than life forms without the need to put tax paying real NZers at risk - there just solved the pursuit dilemma as well.

Go the red wine..:woohoo::wari:

(having a drop 'o red m'self right now!)

cruza
24th June 2010, 22:18
Keep a bucket handy when you read this

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3844325/Chase-death-suicide-by-cop-chasing

A poem published in The Press' family notices today described MacKay as a "man of your word" and referred to his death as "suicide by a cop chasing your car".

The poem reads:

"This is a tribute,
From the elite of the street,
Some of Paparua's gangstas,
Brothers in arms in bricks and bars,
Life and death in the fast lane,
We remember your name,
Never narked on no one,
True to the game.

You were a man of your word and very few are,
Suicide by cop chasing your car,
We reminisce about a youngsta,
Who aint no longer with us,
Dead but not gone,
Because through us he lives on,
Still smoking on, still smoking on."

Another notice said MacKay, aka "Fatboy", was "a solid and loyal friend to the end".

I think this dickhead has done society as a whole a favour.

What a waste of newspaper space, wonder if they rang it thru on a cellphone?
Making him out as some sort of hero ................

Toaster
24th June 2010, 22:42
NZ Police = damned if they do and damned if they don't.

And yes, there are plently of tossers out there that think that if they try to do a runner, then the cops will abandon pursuit.

Of course police (and govt) want to minimise risk to the public and collateral damage. They are afterall obliged to. Sadly, an obvious side affect of that is that some numpties will get away, but it seems the lesser of two evils when if they do pursue, so many then jump up and down when a pursuit goes pear-shaped.

Blame is always with the numbskull that decides to run. Unfortunately, the decision to pursue (and thereafter the continuation of) can be considered a contributing factor in a fatal pursuit. None of us would want to be in their shoes that day.

schrodingers cat
25th June 2010, 16:11
...wonder if they rang it thru on a cellphone?

Probably did - while driving since they are badddddddddd gangsta's

Genie
25th June 2010, 16:36
well i'm on bourban as i dont' like red wine.


My opinion on boy racers...hey we were all young and stupid at one stage but.....

cars weren't so lethal.

we only drank beer

we had respect for the police

those that did runners...always got caught so what wa the point of running.


Personally, I think alot of this goes back to the parents and perhaps if they had instilled some boundaries their darling offspring would have some self control. bring back the strap and the cane at school. stop selling alcohol to anyone under 20. young drivers shouldn't be able to have a car bigger than a 1000cc's. the penalties need to be harder ie....you drive bad you lose your car - instant. forget the fines, it means nothing to them, get them out sweeping the roads and cleaning public toilets. parents...keep your children at home, dont' let them roam the streets from the age of 10. ffs, i'm winding up now. best i get another bourban

Leviticus
25th June 2010, 16:44
NZ Police = damned if they do and damned if they don't.

And yes, there are plently of tossers out there that think that if they try to do a runner, then the cops will abandon pursuit.

Of course police (and govt) want to minimise risk to the public and collateral damage. They are afterall obliged to. Sadly, an obvious side affect of that is that some numpties will get away, but it seems the lesser of two evils when if they do pursue, so many then jump up and down when a pursuit goes pear-shaped.

Blame is always with the numbskull that decides to run. Unfortunately, the decision to pursue (and thereafter the continuation of) can be considered a contributing factor in a fatal pursuit. None of us would want to be in their shoes that day.

Give the Police proper air support. A Heli in each city would soon become a deterrent. At least then the police cant be accused of causing the incident by chasing. How do they pay for it? Put up speed cameras at accident blackspots, and watch the money come rolling in.

Fuck yeah

cruza
25th June 2010, 16:52
Give the Police proper air support. A Heli in each city would soon become a deterrent. At least then the police cant be accused of causing the incident by chasing. How do they pay for it? Put up speed cameras at accident blackspots, and watch the money come rolling in.

Fuck yeah

something along the lines of blue thunder.................:2thumbsup

cruza
25th June 2010, 16:54
NZ Police = damned if they do and damned if they don't.

And yes, there are plently of tossers out there that think that if they try to do a runner, then the cops will abandon pursuit.

Of course police (and govt) want to minimise risk to the public and collateral damage. They are afterall obliged to. Sadly, an obvious side affect of that is that some numpties will get away, but it seems the lesser of two evils when if they do pursue, so many then jump up and down when a pursuit goes pear-shaped.

Blame is always with the numbskull that decides to run. Unfortunately, the decision to pursue (and thereafter the continuation of) can be considered a contributing factor in a fatal pursuit. None of us would want to be in their shoes that day.

They have a tough job, well written

JimO
25th June 2010, 19:06
Go the red wine..:woohoo::wari:

(having a drop 'o red m'self right now!)

how civilised..LOL

cruza
25th June 2010, 19:52
how civilised..LOL

Just on my first glass........to dangerous to go out this weekend in chch......last hoorah for the boyracers is underway according to the press..........yeah right:rolleyes:

scumdog
25th June 2010, 19:55
Just on my first glass........to dangerous to go out this weekend in chch......last hoorah for the boyracers is underway according to the press..........yeah right:rolleyes:

Having a glass of Taylors cab-merlot m'self right now, good to sip while perusing KB.

JimO
25th June 2010, 20:13
Having a glass of Taylors cab-merlot m'self right now, good to sip while perusing KB.

does it come in a cask scummy

scumdog
25th June 2010, 21:26
does it come in a cask scummy

Nah, can't wean my doris onto Chateau Cardboard...