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Blinkwing
30th June 2010, 15:07
Was attempting to fill up the back tyre (it's hard to get the air hose on) and when I was taking off the hose, the hose took off the valve along with it.

So now my motorbike is parked at the petol station with a flat tyre and a very pissed off owner.

I really don't have much money or people available to help me, I have no idea what to do next.

Suggestions?

Mom
30th June 2010, 15:09
You poor bastard. I hope someone will be along in a moment to help you out.

bogan
30th June 2010, 15:18
the valve bit that just screws in? or ripped out the whole thing? if its just an insert ring a shop to figure out how it goes back in

slofox
30th June 2010, 15:18
How far from a bike shop are you?

The way I see it, you have three options...in order of probable cost they are...

1. Push it to a bike shop.
2. Get it onto a trailer and drive it to a bike shop.
3. Get the bike shop to drive out and pick it up for you.

I daresay you could also rip the wheel off yourself and take just it to the shop. Maybe the garage would let you park the bike securely at their place for the duration?

blackdog
30th June 2010, 15:30
any tyre shop (not nes bike shop) if close by would prob lend you a valve screwdriver and give you a valve if ya need it

danchop
30th June 2010, 15:37
id say it needs a new tube so will have to be a bike shop

blackdog
30th June 2010, 15:38
id say it needs a new tube so will have to be a bike shop

tyres stil have tubes?

Blinkwing
30th June 2010, 15:41
None of the tyre shops near where I currently am "do motorbikes" ...

GOONR
30th June 2010, 15:44
None of the tyre shops near where I currently am "do motorbikes" ...

Has the entire valve stem come off or just it's internals?

danchop
30th June 2010, 15:46
if its a vl250 it has a tube cause its got spoked rims,what suburb are you in blink

Blinkwing
30th June 2010, 15:57
Has the entire valve stem come off or just it's internals?

From what I can see, the whole bloody thing has come out.


if its a vl250 it has a tube cause its got spoked rims,what suburb are you in blink

takapuna

The Pastor
30th June 2010, 16:01
From what I can see, the whole bloody thing has come out.



takapuna

LOL! none of the tyreshops! lol! call cycletreads mate they will come pick you and the bike up, give you a new tube and see you right.

none of the shops! have you been down barrys point? TONS of bike shops!

Thanks for the laugh!

Cayman911
30th June 2010, 16:03
hmm sorry to hear that, thats exactly why filling up tyres is a nightmare for me. spoked wheels + bloody huge brakes, its a mission to get the air hose onto the valve and off again.

GOONR
30th June 2010, 16:05
I was gonna say Cycletreads but RM beat me to it. Their number is (09) 486 2472

Slyer
30th June 2010, 16:08
As RM said.
Takapuna has probably the highest concentration of bike shops in the country. Hence the irony.
Lets see we've got spectrum, holeshot, cyclespot and cycletreads all within 1-2km of anywhere in Takapuna. :P

Grubber
30th June 2010, 16:29
tyres stil have tubes?

Yea what i was thinking. Probably needs a whole new tube. Would have pulled the valve out of the rim would be my guess. Which means he will have to take tire off to put new valve in. Not a big job just a pain in the arse.

PrincessBandit
30th June 2010, 16:43
hmm sorry to hear that, thats exactly why filling up tyres is a nightmare for me. spoked wheels + bloody huge brakes, its a mission to get the air hose onto the valve and off again.

I'm so glad to hear you say that - I thought I was the only one who has that problem!

CookMySock
30th June 2010, 16:43
I suppose you are not still sitting at the garage? :blink:

If it's only a few km home, just ride it home quietly. Don't ride it any further though.

Steve

Blinkwing
30th June 2010, 16:51
The guys at Holeshot were quite understanding & picked my bike up and took it back to the shop.

It'll be there overnight and they'll replace the inner tube first thing in the morning. Shouldn't be more than $70.

Since I've got this sorted, isn't there an adapter to make life easier for when I fill up the bloody tyres next time?

danchop
30th June 2010, 17:04
most petrol station pumps piss me off and i dont trust the accuracy but imaybe a bike shop could take advantage of this and install a free(not have to ask} pump available to motorcycles as an incentive to have a look around

sinned
30th June 2010, 17:12
isn't there an adapter to make life easier for when I fill up the bloody tyres next time?
I would also like to get an adapter as the hose fitting set up at the local stations don't fit. Some sort of right angle adapter is required.
Who can sell me one?

Taz
30th June 2010, 17:19
Strangely enough a bike shop can sell you one.

HenryDorsetCase
30th June 2010, 17:24
I'm so glad to hear you say that - I thought I was the only one who has that problem!


Ive got two words for you Kim: "Angled Valve Stem Adaptors"

ten other characters

HenryDorsetCase
30th June 2010, 17:25
most petrol station pumps piss me off and i dont trust the accuracy but imaybe a bike shop could take advantage of this and install a free(not have to ask} pump available to motorcycles as an incentive to have a look around

Buy a bicycle track pump and a decent tyre pressure gauge and never have to rely on dodgy servo compressors ever again!

HenryDorsetCase
30th June 2010, 17:26
I suppose you are not still sitting at the garage? :blink:

If it's only a few km home, just ride it home quietly. Don't ride it any further though.

Steve

beginner/new rider?

in Auckland city/Takapuna?

riding a flat tyre?

thats TERRIBLE advice.

Blinkwing
30th June 2010, 17:47
LOL! none of the tyreshops! lol! call cycletreads mate they will come pick you and the bike up, give you a new tube and see you right.

none of the shops! have you been down barrys point? TONS of bike shops!

Thanks for the laugh!


As RM said.
Takapuna has probably the highest concentration of bike shops in the country. Hence the irony.
Lets see we've got spectrum, holeshot, cyclespot and cycletreads all within 1-2km of anywhere in Takapuna. :P

Yes, I see the irony ... just wasn't aware they did tyres too. Thought they only sold bikes & did WoFs. Ah well, you learn something new every day.

:doh:


Buy a bicycle track pump and a decent tyre pressure gauge and never have to rely on dodgy servo compressors ever again!

Going to research this over the next week :D


beginner/new rider?

in Auckland city/Takapuna?

riding a flat tyre?

thats TERRIBLE advice.

Over the last two months of lurking/browsing KB, I've learnt to take anything DB says with a pinch of salt.

Mom
30th June 2010, 17:57
I'm so glad to hear you say that - I thought I was the only one who has that problem!

No you are not alone - and my bike has mags :D


beginner/new rider?

in Auckland city/Takapuna?

riding a flat tyre?

thats TERRIBLE advice.

No, it is irresponsible and apalling advice to give, but par for the course for this member, he is completely removed from reality sometimes. If it was his son in this position I doubt the advice would be the same.

p.dath
30th June 2010, 18:00
Since I've got this sorted, isn't there an adapter to make life easier for when I fill up the bloody tyres next time?

I bought my right angle adaptor from Cycletreads, about 200m away from where your bike is. I think it cost $10. Make sure you don't leave it permanently attached though.

CookMySock
30th June 2010, 18:15
beginner/new rider? in Auckland city/Takapuna? riding a flat tyre? thats TERRIBLE advice.My young fella used to commute to school on his GT250R. 90% of that riding was on the open road at 100k. I don't believe for a minute he stuck to the speed limit. One day he returns from school with a COMPLETELY FLAT front tire, and get this - he didn't even KNOW.

I rode the bike about 2km to the garage and pumped it up, and it was a bit wiggly in corners, but perfectly ridable.

I am quite sure, that if he can ride to school for a week with a totally flat FRONT tire, that even a learner rider can ride quietly home at 30km/hr with a flat REAR tire.

Perhaps you have done it and know better? Probably not it seems - more like shoot mouth off on topic you have no experience on, and attempt to ridicule those who have. :sunny:

Steve

Blinkwing
30th June 2010, 18:34
Wouldn't riding home with a flat tyre do damage to the rims? Or the tyre rubber itself?

Maha
30th June 2010, 18:36
My young fella used to commute to school on his GT250R. 90% of that riding was on the open road at 100k. I don't believe for a minute he stuck to the speed limit. One day he returns from school with a COMPLETELY FLAT front tire, and get this - he didn't even KNOW.

I rode the bike about 2km to the garage and pumped it up, and it was a bit wiggly in corners, but perfectly ridable.

I am quite sure, that if he can ride to school for a week with a totally flat FRONT tire, that even a learner rider can ride quietly home at 30km/hr with a flat REAR tire.

Perhaps you have done it and know better? Probably not it seems - more like shoot mouth off on topic you have no experience on, and attempt to ridicule those who have. :sunny:

Steve

I notice the difference even pushing my bike out of the garage with a flat tyre.
Your story is flawed Steve. Rode a whole week with a flat front tyre?.....the most unconvincing sentence I have read on KB since I joined...

Maha
30th June 2010, 18:38
Wouldn't riding home with a flat tyre do damage to the rims? Or the tyre rubber itself?

Yes and yes, can I ask you not to listen to or take his advice seriously?

blackdog
30th June 2010, 18:38
Wouldn't riding home with a flat tyre do damage to the rims? Or the tyre rubber itself?

very likely

Slyer
30th June 2010, 18:39
I'd say having no air in a Shinko tyre wouldn't affect its grip performance much.

phill-k
30th June 2010, 18:45
Personally I would just trade it, no problems with the flat then.

Mom
30th June 2010, 18:52
Probably not

Your red rep burns as much as the bit of your post I highlighted :D


Wouldn't riding home with a flat tyre do damage to the rims? Or the tyre rubber itself?

Yes indeedy, riding your bike with flat, or even below recommended pressure will damage your tyres.


I'd say having no air in a Shinko tyre wouldn't affect its grip performance much.

Meh, they still wobble like hell if they are below pressure, they dont grip even properly inflated to recommended pressures.

CookMySock
30th June 2010, 19:02
Rode a whole week with a flat front tyre?.....the most unconvincing sentence I have read on KB since I joined...That was my experience, so I posted it. The red rep and abusive comments are perfectly normal for KB. Perhaps it looked like I cared? Go do as you choose.

Steve

Blinkwing
30th June 2010, 19:02
Yes and yes, can I ask you not to listen to or take his advice seriously?


Over the last two months of lurking/browsing KB, I've learnt to take anything DB says with a pinch of salt.

tencharacters.

bogan
30th June 2010, 19:06
I notice the difference even pushing my bike out of the garage with a flat tyre.
Your story is flawed Steve. Rode a whole week with a flat front tyre?.....the most unconvincing sentence I have read on KB since I joined...

I noticed it when my front tyre drop 15psi (down to 15 from 32) cos of the way slower turn in, anyone who doesn't notice the difference in handling from a flat front tyre should give the whole biking think a serious re-think.

davereid
30th June 2010, 19:13
Bling to the OP for actually checking his tyre pressures...

Flat tyres on bikes is a bloody pain. I have a tyre pando for 'mergencies... but as I have so many bikes, it is always on the other one.

I have never needed it.. touchwood.

Maha
30th June 2010, 19:15
That was my experience, so I posted it. The red rep and abusive comments are perfectly normal for KB. Perhaps it looked like I cared? Go do as you choose.

Steve

Red rep is for pussy's who are to chicken shit to say what they really mean on the forum...'stick to what you know'.....:msn-wink:

slofox
30th June 2010, 19:16
Last year I rode the SV across the hills towards Kawhia, wondering why the bike didn't want to handle properly. I thought it was just me having a bad day. But eventually it got so bad that I stopped to check. The rear was flat, 0psi on the gauge...

I fixed it with my handy puncture repair kit, managed to reinflate it with a little help from a local cocky and rode it back home. Went so much better with air in the tyre...funnily enough...

No damage to the rim at all and the tyre looked like it might have been OK as well. But since it was nearly shagged anyway, who knows? I just replaced it.

Cayman911
30th June 2010, 19:26
gotta say though, Buying a tyre pressure gauge and checking it at home is alot more convenient than riding to a station and doing the checking there.
not that they're accurate anyways. i remember once i checked the pressure in 2 different shells and a BP in the time of 10 mins.

first shell said 22PSI, BP said 9PSI, other shell said 16 PSI. so which one do you trust? (oh and my bike's supposed to be at 22")

so the guys at Honda suggested i buy my own pressure gauge which was the fantastic

CookMySock
30th June 2010, 19:26
Red rep is for pussy's who are to chicken shit to say what they really mean on the forum...'stick to what you know'.....:msn-wink:I have always said exactly what I really mean. You of all people should be aware of that.

Steve

Mom
30th June 2010, 19:32
I have always said exactly what I really mean. You of all people should be aware of that.

Steve

I am keeping this quote for the next time I see you post anything stupid/trolling/funny/pathetic ever again on this forum. You are welcome :D

CookMySock
30th June 2010, 19:33
Last year I rode the SV across the hills towards Kawhia, wondering why the bike didn't want to handle properly. I thought it was just me having a bad day. But eventually it got so bad that I stopped to check. The rear was flat, 0psi on the gauge...

I fixed it with my handy puncture repair kit, managed to reinflate it with a little help from a local cocky and rode it back home. Went so much better with air in the tyre...funnily enough...

No damage to the rim at all and the tyre looked like it might have been OK as well. But since it was nearly shagged anyway, who knows? I just replaced it.Exactly the same experience I had. While the bike did want to tip in a little dramatically, it was quite ridable otherwise, and after it was re-inflated there were zero issues.

Steve

CookMySock
30th June 2010, 19:39
I am keeping this quote for the next time I see you post anything stupid/trolling/funny/pathetic ever again on this forum. You are welcome :DWould you? Well, go for it! I have far more interesting things to do instead of waiting to trip you up with something.

I think really your life is too dominated by the internet and your anger. Time for a new project perhaps? What about an adventure bike? Doesn't that sound like a cool idea? You would have fun doing that! ;)

Steve

Mom
30th June 2010, 19:59
Would you? Well, go for it! I have far more interesting things to do instead of waiting to trip you up with something.

I think really your life is too dominated by the internet and your anger. Time for a new project perhaps? What about an adventure bike? Doesn't that sound like a cool idea? You would have fun doing that! ;)

Steve

Yes, you are right, I am an extremely angry person, my life sucks :weep: The only things I have left are my cat and giving you shit on here. I will try my best to stop logging on KB for I am sure that is the root (sp on porpoise) of all evil. When I top myself in the next week or so after my anger management class fails, it will be all down to you and your mean comments to me on here.

BTW, I gave up the adventure/off road/enduro type riding years ago :yawn:

jasonzc
30th June 2010, 20:27
Hey, if you still need that right angled adaptor thing, u can have mine, pm me your addy and ill send it out if i can find it.

Just sold me VL for a M50 woo!!

Little Miss Trouble
30th June 2010, 20:37
Yep Mom, you are a sad individual with no life at all, shall I remind you of that again this weekend when we all arrive from all over the country to celebrate your birthday?

Jizah
30th June 2010, 20:47
Last time I tried to ride off with a flat rear tyre I actually thought my rear brake was jammed on. I honestly must have kicked the brake pedal close to 10 times before I realised that wasn't the problem.

HenryDorsetCase
30th June 2010, 22:28
I am quite sure, that if he can ride to school for a week with a totally flat FRONT tire, that even a learner rider can ride quietly home at 30km/hr with a flat REAR tire.

Perhaps you have done it and know better? Probably not it seems - more like shoot mouth off on topic you have no experience on, and attempt to ridicule those who have. :sunny:

Steve

I have had a flat front tyre, as it happens, and it made the bike unsafe, and unrideable. I call bullshit. In fact, let the air out of one of your tyres, video and youtube.

Maha
30th June 2010, 22:30
I have had a flat front tyre, as it happens, and it made the bike unsafe, and unrideable. I call bullshit. In fact, let the air out of one of your tyres, video and youtube.

Now theres a challenge...unlikely to ever view such a video I might add.

Slyer
30th June 2010, 23:43
Wait you don't have to put air in your tyres anyone?
Holy shit! I'm going to save so much money on air!

Shadows
30th June 2010, 23:57
I would also like to get an adapter as the hose fitting set up at the local stations don't fit. Some sort of right angle adapter is required.
Who can sell me one?

I usually just bend the cunts of things until they do fit.

breakaway
1st July 2010, 10:12
Yeah I have to bend the valve in my tyre a fair bit to get it to fit to most petrol station pumps as well. I want to get a 90° valve installed. How does this affect tyre balancing though?

Tank
1st July 2010, 10:34
Would you? Well, go for it! I have far more interesting things to do instead of waiting to trip you up with something.

thats the beauty of doing it to you tho' - you type stupid retarded shit on a daily basis - its not like we have to wait - you login in, and stupid shit starts appearing.



I think really your life is too dominated by the internet and your anger.

You mistake anger for the feelings that we really have for you. Its like the pity you feel for someone less fortunate, mixed with healthy doses of indifference, and scorn.

But anger - no. I think you are projecting - you should see a professional about that and get the help you so obviously need.



edit - and for the hard of thinking - riding a bike with a flat tyre is a bad idea. DB for Mentor:Yeah right!

Madmax
1st July 2010, 14:24
I suppose you are not still sitting at the garage? :blink:

If it's only a few km home, just ride it home quietly. Don't ride it any further though.

Steve

good luck if its a flat front

The Pastor
1st July 2010, 14:35
You can ride bikes with a flat tyre. Its very difficult and dangerous. I have ridden from newmarket to the north shore with a flat rear tyre - you only really notice it on the turns, which arnt on the motorway as i found out hahaha.

It really depends on how flat the tyre is, the risk of damage to the rim comes when the tyre comes off the rim at speed - you will need a new rim at the least.

Blinkwing
1st July 2010, 15:17
Got my bike back, the mechanics replaced the inner tube & fitted a 90 degree adaptor at no additional cost. At least something good came out of that :D

Thanks to the guys at Holeshot! Much appreciated.

Maha
1st July 2010, 17:39
You can ride bikes with a flat tyre. Its very difficult and dangerous. I have ridden from newmarket to the north shore with a flat rear tyre - you only really notice it on the turns, which arnt on the motorway as i found out hahaha.

It really depends on how flat the tyre is, the risk of damage to the rim comes when the tyre comes off the rim at speed - you will need a new rim at the least.

Do you think you could handle this vehicle in its current conditon?

mattian
1st July 2010, 20:19
Got my bike back, the mechanics replaced the inner tube & fitted a 90 degree adaptor at no additional cost. At least something good came out of that :D

Thanks to the guys at Holeshot! Much appreciated.
yup. I wanna put in a good word for those guys at Holeshot Takapuna too. They are excellent. I have taken my bikes around to loads of places and like their work the best.