Wheelies in the carpark

[Rogue Rider]

LoL, got told off today for doing wheel stands in the work carpark....... It's a private car park, with a straight around 300m long so it's perfect for it, especially with some new asphalt recently laid..... It's just so opportune and temptuos.

Anyway, wasn't the boss that told me off, so tonight I gave it another shot anyway, fairly impressive too, did the whole distance with 20m to spare and a nice touchdown. I am thinkin the Boss will either to cease or congratulate, when the wheelie police get to him. Hopefully they can give me the camera footage lol.

Go hard or go home!:Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk:

Where else can one Wheelie..... fun police suck bum.:sick::bye:

[sil3nt]

Hah good stuff. Just don't arse off and take out some expensive cars! Who told on ya?

[Houseman]

Haha nice work. I really need some practice space too. The firestorm is so great to wheelie but I have lost all technique since farm days. Really struggling with the smooth put-down if anyone has some advise. Feels like I might f*ck the forks if Im not careful.

[Rogue Rider]

Hah good stuff. Just don't arse off and take out some expensive cars! Who told on ya?

A supervisor narked out, hate that, if he had an issue he could have come to me first off, I still would have told him to man up perhaps, but still the honourable way to go about it......

Arsin off on a 18k bike not a wise move, true that.

[Rogue Rider]

Haha nice work. I really need some practice space too. The firestorm is so great to wheelie but I have lost all technique since farm days. Really struggling with the smooth put-down if anyone has some advise. Feels like I might f*ck the forks if Im not careful.


It's all about the powering, lift is easy, if you just doin a straight run from stand still power it up in first from mid range revs. Hold it through the raise and gear into 2nd and 3rd if nec. Hold the revs steady and as you drop the front, for a gentle touch down just accelerate again into the mid range. touchdown should be delicat and effortless.
Practice makes perfect, its just finding a place really to do it these days.

[Fatjim]

Are you a moron? If a cop sees you, and he can get to you, you lose your license.

[owner]

clutch ,,,,,,,,,

[R6_kid]

Are you a moron? If a cop sees you, and he can get to you, you lose your license.

Party pooper.

My boss congratulated me on a good mono up the hill as I left work for my 1hr lunch break ride on Friday a couple of months back. Helps that everyone in management where I work is a petrol head.

[Rogue Rider]

Are you a moron? If a cop sees you, and he can get to you, you lose your license.

duhhhh, thats why I was on private property....... Definately not advocating that anyone practice on the roads. In my view, the best way to learn is on a trail bike on the beach. experiment a bit.

[Gremlin]

not much is more fun than wheelying the boss' bike in front of him :D

[Berries]

My boss congratulated me on a good mono up the hill as I left work for my 1hr lunch break ride on Friday a couple of months back.
In an S40 ?

Sweet.

[vifferman]

duhhhh, thats why I was on private property.......
I suspect the cops could still do you, argue that the carpark was publicly accessible, counted as a roadway because vehicles were driving on it, blah blah.
But good for you - keep up the good work. :niceone:

[DEATH_INC.]

Really struggling with the smooth put-down if anyone has some advise. Feels like I might f*ck the forks if Im not careful.
Just land with the gas on, and off the rpm limiter, I just give 'er a little extra just before touchdown.

[javawocky]

I have a similar practice pad at the back of our building with a perfect little hump in the tar at the start to help lift the wheel.

I usually do it pretty early before anyone else is in, but this morning a work mate was just getting out of his car, so I HAD TO put on a show :innocent: Perfect hight, perfect power perfect distance, soft put down. 9.5 - 9.8 - 9.7 :third:

What am I thinking this is totally irresponsible behaviour. Don't try this at home, kids.

[Genie]

Go the Wheelie!

[Taz]

I won't try it at home. Driveway is too short.

[maggot]

It's even more fun popping them accidentally, for the first time ever, while dragging off a mate on a gsxr :yes:

Now THAT was fun :P

[bombsquad]

are you guys clutching up or just powering up?

[Drew]

Wheelies are neither big, nor clever.

[YellowDog]

OMG - Wheelies in a supermarket car park !

Mind those trollies or it will all end in tears :shit:

[TOTO]

yea, like a colgue of mine pointed out - The cops tell you to take it to the race track, the race track organisers tell you to take it to the road. What is left but the work car park :yes:

....or the work driveway on the side :innocent:

[Buddy L]

Wheelies are neither big, nor clever.

This is correct.... But are alot of fun.
Now ive got the XT, i seem to be doing them alot more.
I like showing off, (mans me feel like a man, and i tell myself that the girls like it!!:yes:)

I need the practice clicking through the gears, then ill be away.

[Motig]

You'll probably find the companys health and safety rules would get you. If an employee esp a supervisor sees someone that is performing an act endangering themself or that could endanger others they are mean't to report it and steps taken to eliminate the risk. Perhaps firing squad or similar.

[Taz]

You'll probably find the companys health and safety rules would get you. If an employee esp a supervisor sees someone that is performing an act endangering themself or that could endanger others they are mean't to report it and steps taken to eliminate the risk. Perhaps firing squad or similar.

True and sadly there are alot of sad miserable people who are so brain washed by this shit and are so keen to crawl up managements arse that they'd rush off to enter an incident report almost doing themselves an injury in their haste. I will never understand these assholes. We have at least a thousand of them where I work.

[onearmedbandit]

Wheelies are neither big, nor clever.

Is that you Jimmy?

Although I will point out that 120mph one armed wheelies are big and clever.

[Kickaha]

Although I will point out that 120mph one armed wheelies are big and clever.


All stunts were performed by professionals. Do not attempt this at home

[breakaway]

Wheelies are neither big, nor clever.

Isn't that what some guy who wheelied over a blind crest and rode into a brick wall said on this forum a while back?


Wheelies are neither big, nor clever, if you're a dumbshit

There, I fixed it for you.

[javawocky]

are you guys clutching up or just powering up?

On the old SV, it was a simple matter of opening the throttle at low speed and sitting a little back.

On the Gixxer, its sit back, open throttle, wait for revs to get high enough (about 4-5k me thinks) then pop that clutch and modulate the hight with your right hand.

But don't every try it as it might be fun. You could also damage your bike by flipping it, and possibly get hurt, unless you are wrapped in cotton wool.

Those that can, do those who can't complain about how dangerous it is and that no one should be doing it - ever!

[Flip]

If I had seen you doing wheelies in my car park I would have hit you up straight away with serious misconduct. If you had told me to "man up" you would be immediately looking for a new job.

As an employer I have the legal responsibility to insure that my staff do not injure themselves at work. The Rozza can only charge you with dangerous, big deal a 3 month lol and a $1000 fine, if I know you were driving dangerously at work and did nothing and you injured yourself I can be personally fined $250,000.

I am actually surprised you still have a job. So stop doing dumb shit at work.

[mnkyboy]

If I had seen you doing wheelies in my car park I would have hit you up straight away with serious misconduct. If you had told me to "man up" you would be immediately looking for a new job.

As an employer I have the legal responsibility to insure that my staff do not injure themselves at work. The Rozza can only charge you with dangerous, big deal a 3 month lol and a $1000 fine, if I know you were driving dangerously at work and did nothing and you injured yourself I can be personally fined $250,000.

I am actually surprised you still have a job. So stop doing dumb shit at work.

And there's the problem with NZ's S&H laws. Gone are the days of personal responsibility. I understand you could be had up, but I find your response incredulous. I've been a supervisor and let the boys be 'boys'. If they fucked up we'd laugh, they'd learn (albeit the hard way) and we'd be on our merry way.

I'd never work in a company where the culture is half the response you've given.

[McWild]

Wheelies are neither big, nor clever.

Maybe they're not doing them for you. Did you consider that, or were you too busy thinking that if someone does something slightly different from everyone else, they were doing it for your benefit and not theirs?

[Deano]

Maybe they're not doing them for you. Did you consider that, or were you too busy thinking that if someone does something slightly different from everyone else, they were doing it for your benefit and not theirs?

Haha - you don't really know Drew do you....

[Gremlin]

Wheelies are neither big, nor clever.
but they are fucken cool! :yes:

[trustme]

And there's the problem with NZ's S&H laws. Gone are the days of personal responsibility. I understand you could be had up, but I find your response incredulous. I've been a supervisor and let the boys be 'boys'. If they fucked up we'd laugh, they'd learn (albeit the hard way) and we'd be on our merry way.

I'd never work in a company where the culture is half the response you've given.


I'm with Flip . I'm glad you will never work for my company. Boys will be boys until shit happens & then it is the company owner who has to 'Man Up' & take the consequences for deadshit behaviour. I don't like the way OSH has gone but not liking it is not a defense when things go wrong . We are stuck with this wonderful new PC world & the days where this stuff could be tolerated are long gone, so get over it.

[piston broke]

LoL, got told off today for doing wheel stands in the work carpark....... It's a private car park, with a straight around 300m long so it's perfect for it, especially with some new asphalt recently laid..... It's just so opportune and temptuos.:

sooo,where is said carpark???

[R6_kid]

In an S40 ?

Sweet.

I use the passivity and safety of the Volvo to balance out the rampant hooliganism that my TRX brings out in me.

[McWild]

Haha - you don't really know Drew do you....

Nope. But I'll now assume he was taking the piss and take that back. Sorry.

Although my comment still stands for those who do think that way.

[vifferman]

If I had seen you doing wheelies in my car park I would have hit you up straight away with serious misconduct.
Wouldn't it just be easier to say, "If you are doing this in the carpark, while you're not on the job, you're officially not at work, and not my responsibility"? How far does your 'sphere of influence' extend? To the end of the driveway? To the door, if the person hasn't started work or has finished work for the day?

[Bass]

How far does your 'sphere of influence' extend? ?

I think that prosecutions have established that it can be anywhere on the property and at any time.

[trustme]

Wouldn't it just be easier to say, "If you are doing this in the carpark, while you're not on the job, you're officially not at work, and not my responsibility"? How far does your 'sphere of influence' extend? To the end of the driveway? To the door, if the person hasn't started work or has finished work for the day?

Incorrect. A freezing worker was stabbed by a gang member in the works carpark. Works was prosecuted for failing to provide a safe working environment, crazy but true. I can't recall the final outcome.
A mate used to shout a few beers for his workers on a Friday night, not any more, if they had an accident & were injured there was the potential for him to be prosecuted

Pull wheelies in the carpark & the it is the boss who is at serious financial risk, especially if he knowingly fails to take action even if no accident occurs.

Like I said , if you worked for me I would find any excuse to get rid of you, an worker like that is a liability I could not afford to employ.

[Bass]

Incorrect. A freezing worker was stabbed by a gang member in the works carpark. Works was prosecuted for failing to provide a safe working environment, crazy but true. I can't recall the final outcome.


Wairoa.
Last I heard, it was under appeal.
Basically, if a worker is injured on the work premises at any time, then the employer is liable unless what the worker was doing that caused the accident was expressly forbidden and the employer can provide a paper trail proving that the worker knew this.

[nodrog]

If I had seen you doing wheelies in my car park I would have hit you up straight away with serious misconduct. If you had told me to "man up" you would be immediately looking for a new job.

As an employer I have the legal responsibility to insure that my staff do not injure themselves at work. The Rozza can only charge you with dangerous, big deal a 3 month lol and a $1000 fine, if I know you were driving dangerously at work and did nothing and you injured yourself I can be personally fined $250,000.

I am actually surprised you still have a job. So stop doing dumb shit at work.


I'm with Flip . I'm glad you will never work for my company. Boys will be boys until shit happens & then it is the company owner who has to 'Man Up' & take the consequences for deadshit behaviour. I don't like the way OSH has gone but not liking it is not a defense when things go wrong . We are stuck with this wonderful new PC world & the days where this stuff could be tolerated are long gone, so get over it.

You guys sound like fun.

Fanny

[Flip]

You guys sound like fun.

Fanny

Fun has nothing do do with it. If you ever work with me I promise you will not ever go home in a worse condition than you arived at work at.

Under the OSH laws the employer is responsible for every thing that happens on his site. This has nothing to do with your clock in time. If you are on his site or in his vehicle you are working under his rules.

[trustme]

Fun has nothing do do with it. If you ever work with me I promise you will not ever go home in a worse condition than you arived at work at.

Under the OSH laws the employer is responsible for every thing that happens on his site. This has nothing to do with your clock in time. If you are on his site or in his vehicle you are working under his rules.

+1 , I can be heaps of fun, in the right place at the right time. People doing dumb shit for which I will be held responsible & liable is not my idea of fun. Will the wheelie kid front for the legal costs & fines that could be incurred should this go pear shaped ' Yeah right '.

As an aside , I suspect if the carpark was open to public access , road rules might apply. If the carpark had restricted access solely for employees then OSH laws would take precedence .I would not want to be the poor bugger that was the test case.

[nodrog]

It must be soooo boring working in a cotton wool factory.

Fanny

[trustme]

I work in a field that many would consider to be extremely dangerous, there is a ever present risk of serious harm or death if people do the wrong thing at the wrong time. People regularly look at things that I & my employees do & tell me I am bloody mad, sometimes I think I am too.
Over 25 years , still have all my fingers & toes, 1 lost tiime injury for a stuffed back. Safety is paramount in situations where I have had guys walk off site by morning smoko on their first day because it is too tough.
I work in a bloody dangerous environment , I work on sites through out the country for many different companies, that is why I & my clients don't put up with dumb shit.
The only cotton wool around here is the stuff between your ears.

[Katman]

You guys sound like fun.

Fanny



It must be soooo boring working in a cotton wool factory.

Fanny

Are you sure you're not related to the ice-cream seller? :scratch:

[Flip]

It must be soooo boring working in a cotton wool factory.

Fanny

Petrochemical industry actually, and when things go wrong they often go with a big bang.

Ask Mr BP!

[Flip]

+1 , I can be heaps of fun, in the right place at the right time. People doing dumb shit for which I will be held responsible & liable is not my idea of fun. Will the wheelie kid front for the legal costs & fines that could be incurred should this go pear shaped ' Yeah right '.

As an aside , I suspect if the carpark was open to public access , road rules might apply. If the carpark had restricted access solely for employees then OSH laws would take precedence .I would not want to be the poor bugger that was the test case.

Basically the road regs apply anywhere you can drive a vehicle. The OSH laws apply when you are at work, in a work vehicle on the way to work and in the carpark owned by work. If you were in a carpark that was owned by a 3rd party but under the control of the employer you would still be at work.

[javawocky]

Basically the road regs apply anywhere you can drive a vehicle. The OSH laws apply when you are at work, in a work vehicle on the way to work and in the carpark owned by work. If you were in a carpark that was owned by a 3rd party but under the control of the employer you would still be at work.

So, I should not go over 104.9kph at Hampton Downs and should only pull Wheelies on the way home? I suppose rule 1 would apply in that case, just that the Boss won't get the OSH bill.

[The Pastor]

duhhhh, thats why I was on private property....... Definately not advocating that anyone practice on the roads. In my view, the best way to learn is on a trail bike on the beach. experiment a bit.

nah dude you can get done for doing them in a carpark, trust me.

Unless its fenced off and you can't drive into it, i.e., the public have access to it then its all fair game for the coppa!

[javawocky]

...

Unless its fenced off and you can't drive into it, i.e., the public have access to it then its all fair game for the coppa!

mmm, we have one of those electronic gates which is sometimes open and sometimes closed depending on the time of day, sure would be confusing for the layers to sort out.

[Flip]

mmm, we have one of those electronic gates which is sometimes open and sometimes closed depending on the time of day, sure would be confusing for the layers to sort out.

If you can drive there its a road under the road code. The gate has nothing to do with it.

Back to the topic in hand. Don't do dumb shit at work. If the bosses see you doing some thing that you could be charged with dangerous driving you will be very lucky to keep your job. Good jobs are hard to come by.

[onearmedbandit]

Out of curiosity, what applies on your own driveway?

[Flip]

Out of curiosity, what applies on your own driveway?

Road code applies here as well. The public have access.

[nodrog]

Road code applies here as well. The public have access.

One would hope you are a better Boss than you are internet Lawyer. The law only applies to public carparks like at the park or the beach etc, not private car parks or your driveway.

"public' means the public in general, and not just a section of the public,

it is not enough that the place is physically open to the public - they must be shown to be actually using it."

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/what-is-a-road/what-is-a-road.html

Fanny

[jack_hamma]

Petrochemical industry actually, and when things go wrong they often go with a big bang.

Ask Mr BP!

So cotton wool would be handy moping up oil spills then? :yes:

[Flip]

One would hope you are a better Boss than you are internet Lawyer. The law only applies to public carparks like at the park or the beach etc, not private car parks or your driveway.

"public' means the public in general, and not just a section of the public,

it is not enough that the place is physically open to the public - they must be shown to be actually using it."

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/what-is-a-road/what-is-a-road.html

Fanny

Well there you go, I learnt something today, thanks.

You can't get charged pulling a wheelie at work only sacked.

[Latte]

And you can guarantee the guy you fired for pulling a wheelie will complain to ERS/DOL whatever it's called. Damned if you do........

[jack_hamma]

Well there you go, I learnt something today, thanks.

You can't get charged pulling a wheelie at work only sacked.

Plenty of jobs out there dude :) have to tell RR lol

[Flip]

Plenty of jobs out there dude :) have to tell RR lol

I'm actually jealous because none of my bikes can pull a wheelie.

Well the side car will "fly the chair" given enough centrifugal load.

[piston broke]

Well there you go, I learnt something today, thanks.

You can't get charged pulling a wheelie at work only sacked.

yep,SACKED,if your boss is a winna.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0-2yDsqpL8&feature=related

here's a mono or 2 for y'all.
p.s.i couldn't do a decent wheelie to save myself.

[JimO]

everybody moaning about the boss covering his arse regarding osh would also be moaning if the boss had a dangerous workplace. i know of a guy who was killed on a jobsite his employer was crucified, the main contractor was fined, the owner was in a shitstorm....this is one situation where shit goes up the chain, if the origional poster had managed to maim himself or another worker the firms acc levies would have skyrocketed also

[Flip]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxMa5OG8Xvw

says it all really

[Katman]

here's a mono or 2 for y'all.


Right back at ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXys-MJ5YaM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpqXbn3ND7Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz3uHE6Zjm4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWGJCZ5bCwg&feature=related

[Katman]

And another thing........

If things turn to shit for the OP while practicing his wheelstands and he breaks a leg or an arm, I trust he'll take himself off home and plaster it up himself.

Or would he avail himself of our generously donated ACC levies?

[sosman]

Right back at ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXys-MJ5YaM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpqXbn3ND7Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz3uHE6Zjm4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWGJCZ5bCwg&feature=related


what a bunch of learner riders lol

[piston broke]

Right back at ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXys-MJ5YaM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpqXbn3ND7Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz3uHE6Zjm4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWGJCZ5bCwg&feature=related


And another thing........

If things turn to shit for the OP while practicing his wheelstands and he breaks a leg or an arm, I trust he'll take himself off home and plaster it up himself.

Or would he avail himself of our generously donated ACC levies?

yes shit happens,none uf those are clever.
as i said my mono's suk.
acc should pay'same as acc pays for all accidents.i.e.rugby,soccer, ,mountain climbing,freediving.
that is the joy of nz's acc.
whatever you do NO FAULT.
about 5m is about my best mono btw.i'm a scaredy cat

[trustme]

And another thing........

If things turn to shit for the OP while practicing his wheelstands and he breaks a leg or an arm, I trust he'll take himself off home and plaster it up himself.

Or would he avail himself of our generously donated ACC levies?

A work place accident, Gee, the boss would be really pleased .:shit::shit::shit:

[Katman]

that is the joy of nz's acc.
whatever you do NO FAULT.


It may have escaped your notice but some of us have had enough of paying for others stupidity.

[piston broke]

It may have escaped your notice but some of us have had enough of paying for others stupidity.

hell yes, i am sick to fuck paying for rugby injury's.

sucky fag game that it is.
way happier payin for idiots tryin to mono...

[miloking]

Whats going on here? Is it just me or are most kiwi bikers soft cocks? ... because i thought being able to pull nice controled wheelies is one of the most essential skills every biker should possess(and practice at every opportunity) amongst other things...
But anyway sorry to interrupt...you can now return back to discussing latest Twilight movie and Miley Cyrus CD......fucking puffs...

[Eyegasm]

It may have escaped your notice but some of us have had enough of paying for others stupidity.

I don't want to pay for someones stupidity...

But, I would be far happier paying for someones stupidity than someones laziness.
All arseholes that are on the dole might not be lazy, but a large lot of them are!

[Katman]

I don't want to pay for someones stupidity...

But, I would be far happier paying for someones stupidity than someones laziness.
All arseholes that are on the dole might not be lazy, but a large lot of them are!

You should check and see whether Work and Income's website has a forum. :eek:

[DMNTD]

Right back at ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXys-MJ5YaM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpqXbn3ND7Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz3uHE6Zjm4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWGJCZ5bCwg&feature=related

Legends of the Fall :shifty:

[javawocky]

Legends of the Fall :shifty:

Its a risk I am prepared for them to take :innocent:

Arrive late to work, so decided to pull an inconspicuous low safe power wheelie instead of a Rossi victory wheelie.

[Rogue Rider]

True and sadly there are alot of sad miserable people who are so brain washed by this shit and are so keen to crawl up managements arse that they'd rush off to enter an incident report almost doing themselves an injury in their haste. I will never understand these assholes. We have at least a thousand of them where I work.


It's just not cricket is it........ party poopers.:done:

[Rogue Rider]

yea, like a colgue of mine pointed out - The cops tell you to take it to the race track, the race track organisers tell you to take it to the road. What is left but the work car park :yes:

....or the work driveway on the side :innocent:

It is absurd, however all one can do is take advantage of the few places available. Where I work is not a public accessible location, and it has a road barrier arm in operation. I have no idea where else I could pull it off, well not legally at any rate lol. A private air strip could be the go...... but how many of those are there lol.

[Rogue Rider]

All stunts were performed by professionals. Do not attempt this at home

Agreed, that is BIG and bloody marvelous.... I'd pay to see a show like that lol.:Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::Pun k::Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk: :Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk::P unk::Punk:
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[Rogue Rider]

Incorrect. A freezing worker was stabbed by a gang member in the works carpark. Works was prosecuted for failing to provide a safe working environment, crazy but true. I can't recall the final outcome.
A mate used to shout a few beers for his workers on a Friday night, not any more, if they had an accident & were injured there was the potential for him to be prosecuted

Pull wheelies in the carpark & the it is the boss who is at serious financial risk, especially if he knowingly fails to take action even if no accident occurs.

Like I said , if you worked for me I would find any excuse to get rid of you, an worker like that is a liability I could not afford to employ.

:scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter::scoo ter::scooter::scooter:
Nice to see the fun police out in force lol............

[Rogue Rider]

You guys sound like fun.

Fanny


These guys are straight, they don't do anything illegal or untoward, they never take risks and they live in a cocoon bubble filled with a cotton wool. Attached to the out side is a secondary and primary parachute just in case of emergency.....

I am a professional in my work, and have been throughout my marketing career, however, unlike turkey's, I employ people who do take risks, can have fun, and do enjoy themselves with whatever floats there boat. Success is a direct result of hard work, a bit of stress, and even more hard work.
When one doesn't unwind from there work and have a bit of fun, that is when monotony sets in, boredom and fatigue sneak the path, and owh accidents and serious injury result, if not numerous near miss' along the way.

PC police are eggs, people that don't try for fear of doing something wrong, or mistakes will never learn anything, and will make a companies results average.:scooter:

[Rogue Rider]

I work in a field that many would consider to be extremely dangerous, there is a ever present risk of serious harm or death if people do the wrong thing at the wrong time. People regularly look at things that I & my employees do & tell me I am bloody mad, sometimes I think I am too.
Over 25 years , still have all my fingers & toes, 1 lost tiime injury for a stuffed back. Safety is paramount in situations where I have had guys walk off site by morning smoko on their first day because it is too tough.
I work in a bloody dangerous environment , I work on sites through out the country for many different companies, that is why I & my clients don't put up with dumb shit.
The only cotton wool around here is the stuff between your ears.

There is sooooo much poohs and here say on this topic lol.... We are talking about a wheelie here, not an advocacy for Stupidity or negligence at work.
If one was to look at the actual statistical facts of the the results from OSH, the governing regulatory agency for investigating and prosecuting accidents for work places, one will find clearly documented that 98% of workplace accidents have nothing to do with motorcycles doing wheelies, more specifically physical industry and manual work related activity.
If workers and employers took more time to unwind and to make work more fun, perhaps a higher compliance to acceptable work behavior would result. Most accidents are clearly stated and documented to have occurred as a direct result of negligence and complacency of the performed work standard. It is also of mention that in over 80% of cases the employer is found to be negligent.......

I think the fun police here should join the labour government on their PC policy and outlaw all fun and fun activities, and ban any job that could incur a broken fingernail or stubbed toe! pffffffffffffffffffffffffft:done:

[trustme]

There is sooooo much poohs and here say on this topic lol.... We are talking about a wheelie here, not an advocacy for Stupidity or negligence at work.
If one was to look at the actual statistical facts of the the results from OSH, the governing regulatory agency for investigating and prosecuting accidents for work places, one will find clearly documented that 98% of workplace accidents have nothing to do with motorcycles doing wheelies, more specifically physical industry and manual work related activity.
If workers and employers took more time to unwind and to make work more fun, perhaps a higher compliance to acceptable work behavior would result. Most accidents are clearly stated and documented to have occurred as a direct result of negligence and complacency of the performed work standard. It is also of mention that in over 80% of cases the employer is found to be negligent.......

I think the fun police here should join the labour government on their PC policy and outlaw all fun and fun activities, and ban any job that could incur a broken fingernail or stubbed toe! pffffffffffffffffffffffffft:done:

Unwind , have fun, keep things light hearted , I do all that , but I also accept that sites I work on will not tolerate for want of a better term ' dumb shit '.

Bear in mind that if you were injured your employer would immediately fall into that 80% that were found to be negligent if they fail to take any action.

I did not make the rules , I don't like or even agree with the rules but I have to live with them.

I was recently told that common sense did not apply on the work site.

My response was that if everything we did was geared to the lowest common denominator the consequence would be an inability to rise above the lowest common denominator, every day we would go to work knowing that that was as good as it could get. Totally soul destroying & demotivating in my opinion.
The current law has created an industry of butt covering by replacing common sense with beauracracy, process & paper work
I did not make the bloody rules

[Rogue Rider]

Unwind , have fun, keep things light hearted , I do all that , but I also accept that sites I work on will not tolerate for want of a better term ' dumb shit '.

Bear in mind that if you were injured your employer would immediately fall into that 80% that were found to be negligent if they fail to take any action.

I did not make the rules , I don't like or even agree with the rules but I have to live with them.

I was recently told that common sense did not apply on the work site.

My response was that if everything we did was geared to the lowest common denominator the consequence would be an inability to rise above the lowest common denominator, every day we would go to work knowing that that was as good as it could get. Totally soul destroying & demotivating in my opinion.
I did not make the bloody rules

I do have to concur, the pooh slide from osh is rather insane... A recent case was for a land owner in Auckland cite wished to demolish a block wall on one side of his property.
Landlord commissioned a contractor who won the tender to manage the the job. The contractor managing, sub contracted to another contractor, who in turn employed another smaller contractor to facilitate the task.
The wall demolition commenced, a portion collapsed and fell on a parked car on the road side. Inside the car was a pregnant woman. OSH investigated, the only party not fined was the pregnant woman, the largest fine was awarded to the landlord, who failed to administer and supervise the safe work practices of his property.........

Yes I understand the issue, been there, worked it, and felt the financial burden. Still think the view of wheelie in a Private carpark a bit obtuse. Especially, as in the context given, wheelies anywhere, or be it any unlawful activity on private, public land, or on the road is administered by OSH or ACC investigatory bodies, whichever apply. The financial and physical consequence will be the same regardless.

I'll still have fun, until the day I die, as it is better to live life passionately with vigor and enjoyment over safe boring and long full of regrets.:done:

[Flip]

These guys are straight, they don't do anything illegal or untoward, they never take risks and they live in a cocoon bubble filled with a cotton wool. Attached to the out side is a secondary and primary parachute just in case of emergency.....

I am a professional in my work, and have been throughout my marketing career, however, unlike turkey's, I employ people who do take risks, can have fun, and do enjoy themselves with whatever floats there boat. Success is a direct result of hard work, a bit of stress, and even more hard work.
When one doesn't unwind from there work and have a bit of fun, that is when monotony sets in, boredom and fatigue sneak the path, and owh accidents and serious injury result, if not numerous near miss' along the way.

PC police are eggs, people that don't try for fear of doing something wrong, or mistakes will never learn anything, and will make a companies results average.:scooter:


Booring jobs are one thing, Osh investigations bring a completely new level of stress I hope you never have to experience.

But seriously how big is your car park?

[Katman]

I'll still have fun, until the day I die, as it is better to live life passionately with vigor and enjoyment over safe boring and long full of regrets.:done:

If you arse off while doing your dumb shit can we safely assume you'll fix yourself up and leave the ACC funding to those who have genuine accidents?

[Rogue Rider]

If you arse off while doing your dumb shit can we safely assume you'll fix yourself up and leave the ACC funding to those who have genuine accidents?

lol, No, as I pay my subs like every other dipstick fun bandit out there. As for motorcycle statistics, Trail riders are a high percentage of accident cases and pay nothing, as are the farmers who seem to like doing bike aerodynamics on quads......

Unlike alot of Biketards I am a fairly conscientious and well learned rider. I have been riding nigh on 30 years, am apt in most forms of trickery and fun.
I used to race, now like the social ride scene. Unlike the biketard era of instant experts who got licenses out of wheatbix packets five minutes ago, or the retiree's who have just got back into it after a 30+ year absence, I have a reasonable handle on things.
Noone is immune to accidents, however one usually has a consequential resolve of pushing the envelope further than ones qualification or experienced.

All this over a wheelie in a private carpark, woohoo.......:sick:

[Eyegasm]

If you arse off while doing your dumb shit can we safely assume you'll fix yourself up and leave the ACC funding to those who have genuine accidents?

Genuine Accidents....

You even give those guys shit!!!

I feel like going outside and doing a choreographed burnout so that the Katman can look down from his high horse and read "FFS Katman"

[javawocky]

Booring jobs are one thing, Osh investigations bring a completely new level of stress I hope you never have to experience.

But seriously how big is your car park?

In my case, I have a smooth concrete wall down one side, about 10meters (wide :innocent:) tar and rows of garage doors on the otherside. Before lift off I always check all doors are closed, if even one is open - I abort.

So, the risk factor pretty low, yes I could flip the bike and it could all end in tears, but this is a risk I am prepared for the boss to take.....

:Pokey:

[Katman]

Genuine Accidents....

You even give those guys shit!!!



Meh, like I said - I don't count displays of bravado gone wrong or gross incompetence as genuine accidents.

[Taz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxMa5OG8Xvw

says it all really

Yeah it says "No Skillz"

[Taz]

If you arse off while doing your dumb shit can we safely assume you'll fix yourself up and leave the ACC funding to those who have genuine accidents?

There are no accidents - Only crashes. All crashes are the result of various degrees of "dumb shit" by one party or another.

[onearmedbandit]

There are no accidents - Only crashes. All crashes are the result of various degrees of "dumb shit" by one party or another.

Is that right now?

[Taz]

Is that right now?

I believe so.

[onearmedbandit]

I believe so.

That's fair enough.

[sosman]

wheelies!...those that can do it generally don't talk about it.
those that are learning... want to talk about it ( cause it is exciting & they want to share the buzz with like minded people) & then there are those who can't do them & are more than happy to tell you all the reasons why you shouldn't do them, buy posting examples of others misfortunes :lol:
Anyway keep it up fella's or down if ya too chicken!

[Bass]

All this over a wheelie in a private carpark, woohoo.......:sick:

You read a heap into this that isn't there.
Nobody has played fun police.
Nobody has said don't do it.
All they have said is " don't do it where someone else has to carry the can if you fuck up, especially where the consequences to them may far exceed the consequences to you"

[Rogue Rider]

You read a heap into this that isn't there.
Nobody has played fun police.
Nobody has said don't do it.
All they have said is " don't do it where someone else has to carry the can if you fuck up, especially where the consequences to them may far exceed the consequences to you"

Ohhhh really, ok, that makes sense.... where exactly is that again?????


By the way, I took the liberty to call OSH to speculate the outcome of a vehicular incident. There response was of little interest, they are not particular in investigating traffic incidents unless it involves industry oriented application, and or directly involved in the industry specified working environment.
Thus: they wouldn't be involved in my suggested cause pulling a wheelie, however police jurisdiction could be reviewed if the employer lodges an official complaint................. Blahhhhhh

[trustme]

I always thought that OSH stayed out of motorvehicle accidents , but as I understand it they are prosecuting the transport company for the wheel coming off the truck & killing the front passenger in a bus.
Believe nothing you are told as a casual opinion over the phone, it has about as much validity as opinions around here.

Bass about summed it up for any employer. I wonder how you would feel when someone does something that jeopardises your ability to earn an income or exposes you to a financial liability.

Of course it's only the boss , who gives a shit, he's got plenty.

[Bass]

By the way, I took the liberty to call OSH to speculate the outcome of a vehicular incident.

Firstly, I'll ignore the sarcasm. It just belittles what has so far been your cogently argued point of view.
Secondly, I applaud a genuine attempt to establish what is fact and what is just opinion - that's all to rare around here..........................


Believe nothing you are told as a casual opinion over the phone, it has about as much validity as opinions around here.

.

..............however, I suspect that Trustme is correct, sadly.
For example, call IRD several times with the same question and see how many different answers you can get.