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cowboyz
17th July 2010, 20:00
Well this should work out to be a short report.

Early start this morning as 86gsxr picked me up just before 7 and headed to the track. the roads were pretty wet after heavy rain all night but it looked promising.
did the sign in and unloaded the bikes and did the final checks on the bike. Everything looked good so smoked way too much and unpacked the boots, gloves and back protector I had brought the day before.

First up was clubmans practice/qualifying. Having been warned of a slippery track I went out first and had a bit of a wander at all the lime/crap on the track. TBH the track was really a mess and the bike felt really unstable. I wasnt happy at all with the Supercosa tyres and my new boots kept slipping off the footpegs. Gonna be an interesting day.
Completed the outlap and thought I will just keep everything wide and muppet round the track. Of course.. that theroy lasted about 10 seconds until I turned into turn 1... Foot off peg.. damn... turn 2. front gave a shake.. damn .. so slippery.. Made it round hairpin ok and then wound it up down mid striaght in a bit of frustration. Tipped into higgins and the bike felt really really unstable. Tried picking it up and having another crack at it but lost both tyres and went down in a heap in a pretty gentle low side. Really really annoyed as I was hoping to do better than that - well at least making the start grid would have been nice. Popped weld off the previously repaired cover anddumped its oil. Cheers to all who come over to offer to get the bike back running again but ive injured my shoulder and hand and I think I need to take some time to work out if I can actually ride a bike. So not confidence insipring having ridden 10km in 3 months and crashed twice.

R4 is coming?

Dogboy900
17th July 2010, 20:08
Shame you went down, there was certainly plenty of slippery stuff on the track today to help you do it.

Hope you make it to round 4 and the track/bike are better for you, its always fun to be out there giving it a go :)

CHOPPA
17th July 2010, 20:56
I saw that! Did you puncture your radiator?

No condition for supercorsas mate you need full wets, a decent S/H set would set ya back $200 much cheaper then fairings

puddy
17th July 2010, 21:37
Not good. What bike were you riding cowboyz?

cowboyz
17th July 2010, 23:20
Shame you went down, there was certainly plenty of slippery stuff on the track today to help you do it.

Hope you make it to round 4 and the track/bike are better for you, its always fun to be out there giving it a go :)


bike will be back. I think I broke my little finger which hurts like crap now! Not alot of damage really. Bike should be up and running in the next few days. Kinda handy I dont work days really!


I saw that! Did you puncture your radiator?

No condition for supercorsas mate you need full wets, a decent S/H set would set ya back $200 much cheaper then fairings

radiators good. The engine cover was broken from my road accident and I had it welded up. The weld broke off with the impact (it didnt really scrape.. just clean broke off) so dumped the oil (apologies for that on the exit of higgins). but it didnt spill till the outside of the track.. The long stretch of lime was someone else. I ummmm'd and arrrr'd about the supercorsas all of Friday and put it down to .. shell be right.. Got that wrong! Not thinking my clubmans attempt at racing fund it gonna support 2 sets of tyres so come monday Im gonna compromise on a new set of Pilot powers or Pilot power 2ct. Still undecided on what but thinking something with tread has got to be better!

Oh.. And that BMW is frikken insane! I think the drool puddle from the spectator stands is bigger than my oil spill.


Not good. What bike were you riding cowboyz?

Bunnings Forest Green ZX9R. On the upside.. the crash sliders, although destroyed saved the fairings so minor scraping.. Off to get another $4 spray can on monday too!

Genie
18th July 2010, 07:59
Buggar...next time FTW!

DEATH_INC.
18th July 2010, 08:58
Not thinking my clubmans attempt at racing fund it gonna support 2 sets of tyres so come monday Im gonna compromise on a new set of Pilot powers or Pilot power 2ct.
Go with the Power Race, they're actually quite good in the wet (ask Nicki) and sweet in the dry. If you ask around someone (choppa?) will have a slightly used set of wets you'll be able to buy cheap but you'll hafta learn to change tyres quick, coz they are real shit in the dry.
Better luck next time

NZsarge
18th July 2010, 09:01
Go with the Power Race, they're actually quite good in the wet (ask Nicki) and sweet in the dry. If you ask around someone (choppa?) will have a slightly used set of wets you'll be able to buy cheap but you'll hafta learn to change tyres quick, coz they are real shit in the dry.
Better luck next time
Do you mean Power Ones or Power Race?

DEATH_INC.
18th July 2010, 09:03
Do you mean Power Ones or Power Race?
No the race, surprisingly good in the wet for a supersport tyre. I haven't tried the pures in the wet yet, so they may be another option. And I haven't tried power ones....

Maha
18th July 2010, 09:04
You need training wheels Lance, once you can complete at least one lap, then remove them and try again.
This theory has proven to be very successful indeed on some tracks.

NZsarge
18th July 2010, 09:04
If you are after a more road based tyre to gain versatility pehaps the Power Pure would be a good option, they seem great in the wet to me and given the times you're allowed to do at Manfeild they might be close to being on the money.

NZsarge
18th July 2010, 09:06
No the race, surprisingly good in the wet for a supersport tyre. I haven't tried the pures in the wet yet, so they may be another option. And I haven't tried power ones....

Cool, just after clarification cheers.

Owl
18th July 2010, 09:06
Oh.. And that BMW is frikken insane! I think the drool puddle from the spectator stands is bigger than my oil spill.

Ain't that the truth! I nearly slipped on my own drool puddle.:drool:

Looks like we just missed ya, but we did get to view Shrek. Better luck next time!

cowboyz
18th July 2010, 09:23
No the race, surprisingly good in the wet for a supersport tyre. I haven't tried the pures in the wet yet, so they may be another option. And I haven't tried power ones....

so many options! The next Q hanging over my decision is the Q of tyre warmers. I dont have any and dont intend on buying any just yet. So can I run wets without tyre warmers? Can I run power race's without tyre warmers?


You need training wheels Lance, once you can complete at least one lap, then remove them and try again.
This theory has proven to be very successful indeed on some tracks.

but it looks easy on tv!


Ain't that the truth! I nearly slipped on my own drool puddle.:drool:

Looks like we just missed ya, but we did get to view Shrek. Better luck next time!

Right! mental note! dont leave bike unattended at track!

DEATH_INC.
18th July 2010, 09:28
so many options! The next Q hanging over my decision is the Q of tyre warmers. I dont have any and dont intend on buying any just yet. So can I run wets without tyre warmers? Can I run power race's without tyre warmers?
!
Yes,and yes, but both are better with 'em. Maybe the pures would be a better option...
Personally I think the investment of warmers is worthwhile, there's a lot less chance of doing damage on the first couple of laps.
I found this the hard way....my first ever track race meet I crashed on the very first corner of the first practice at what seemed like walking pace due to cold tyres....

MSTRS
18th July 2010, 10:05
You need training wheels Lance, once you can complete at least one lap, then remove them and try again.
This theory has proven to be very successful indeed on some tracks.

Cruel....

Bad luck, Lance. Live 'n learn eh?

cowboyz
18th July 2010, 10:07
Cruel....

Bad luck, Lance. Live 'n learn eh?

which reminds me of a quote...

its easier to get older than wiser.................

froggyfrenchman
18th July 2010, 10:12
so many options! The next Q hanging over my decision is the Q of tyre warmers. I dont have any and dont intend on buying any just yet. So can I run wets without tyre warmers? Can I run power race's without tyre warmers?

I ran second hand supercorsas for my clubmans attempt over the summer without owning tire warmers. They performed pretty well from cold in the dry (after 2 laps to warm). Were damn right scary at the wet meet I did. And were just the bees knees once I started borrowing tire warmers. When coming to your tire of choice, its worth taking into account the weather. You may decide to pick something with a few more lines to get you through the winter serries then think about trying something else in summer.

sugilite
18th July 2010, 10:16
Lance, Tyre warmers up first for safety and they will also make your tyres go further. The less heat cycles they endure, the longer they will last. So when you get to the track in the morning, wack on the warmers, then wack them straight back on as
soon as you get back to the pits after each race, and hey presto, just one heat cycle for the day.

If the next race is dry and the super corsas are in good condition, I'd try them again after using warmers. In those cold wet slimy conditions, any cold tyre will in the 1st laps make your bike feel like it's unstable and going to crash.

Oh, and I got set of wets you can have for $40 if you want.

Owl
18th July 2010, 10:33
so many options! The next Q hanging over my decision is the Q of tyre warmers.

Or you could buy a can of "CRC Engine Start", spray your tyres and set fire to them prior to racing? While you're there, purchase a can of CRC Brakleen and clean the molybdenum grease off your rotors:whistle:


Right! mental note! dont leave bike unattended at track!

Yeah, there's always some wanker with a camera:D

86GSXR
18th July 2010, 10:49
It was a real bugger to see you go down :shit: But Round 4's coming up quick and we'll get the chance to see the 9 get round gracefully this time :yes: God knows where Michelle got those ears from :innocent:

cowboyz
18th July 2010, 18:31
It was a real bugger to see you go down :shit: But Round 4's coming up quick and we'll get the chance to see the 9 get round gracefully this time :yes: God knows where Michelle got those ears from :innocent:

right! all in for round 4 and I have an incentive of promised pie if I make the grid. Or was that if I finish the first race? Cant remmeber... all I rmmeber is something about pie!!!

Biggles08
18th July 2010, 19:03
right! all in for round 4 and I have an incentive of promised pie if I make the grid. Or was that if I finish the first race? Cant remmeber... all I rmmeber is something about pie!!!
Hey bro, If I come down next round I'll make sure I bring an older set of wets you can use ...also, definitely get a set of tire warmers (not for the wets, for your normal rubber)...its a 'not optional' piece of equipment in my mind...I have a spare set you can use if I'm down next month too...come over and see me bro. Us Kwaka riders gotta stick together...also, that bike of yours is like my old road bike so would love to see someone racing it!!:Punk:
full respect!

cowboyz
18th July 2010, 19:21
Hey bro, If I come down next round I'll make sure I bring an older set of wets you can use ...also, definitely get a set of tire warmers (not for the wets, for your normal rubber)...its a 'not optional' piece of equipment in my mind...I have a spare set you can use if I'm down next month too...come over and see me bro. Us Kwaka riders gotta stick together...also, that bike of yours is like my old road bike so would love to see someone racing it!!:Punk:
full respect!

that rocks like a rocking thing! Ill have a look at R4 with some new tyres and an attitude adjustment and see if I want to carry on with the idea of racing. Frikken sore today!

Biggles08
18th July 2010, 19:33
that rocks like a rocking thing! Ill have a look at R4 with some new tyres and an attitude adjustment and see if I want to carry on with the idea of racing. Frikken sore today!
If you want a set of Dunnies I have some old ones that you can have...good for racing on still just past their full usefulness for me. I sell em pretty cheap for people exactly like you....these are the 211GP and once you have tried em you'll be hooked (you need warmers with them tho).

I have some here $100 a piece ($200 a set) if you want. let me know. I had a woopsie on the weekend too, I spat the front pads out of my calipers cause the pin wasn't done up tight (numbnuts that I am)...no brakes heading into the final turn at Manfeild at about 190kph is kinda interesting. I'm a bit bruised and sore today too but fuck riding on the road....racing is where its at ...just ease into it.
:Punk:

Clivoris
18th July 2010, 21:25
Kudos for getting out there Lance. Keep at it bro.