Job search in Auckland

[DMNTD]

Can anyone give me a heads up on a DECENT avenue to get a job in Auckland?
I have applied for nearly 30 jobs via Seek.co.nz and a couple of other places but keep being given the piss around by useless recruitment agencies.
I have no idea how these companies can justify their charges! I have had 2 replies and zero acknowledgment from the others :mellow:

So...can anyone give me the names of an agency (or similar) that actually works for their crust as I loathe being out of work.

Cheers

[Mom]

I too am looking for work, here are a few tips I have learned.

An agency can receive over 100 applications for any advertised position. They generally do not even consider applications received later than a week after the advertisement. So look everyday, and email in your CV immediately.

If at all possible ring the advertiser, no doubt you can find a reason to ask a question from reading the ad. There is your opportunity to sell yourself into the position. You will either be unsuitable for the job or get invited for an interview. The likelyhood of your CV getting selected without the benefit of a phone call ni support is neglegible. They will simply send you a thanks for applying you have been unsucessful at this time standard reply, if you are lucky, there are some that dont even bother with that.

Write a really job specific cover letter, highlighting all the strengths that you can bring to the position. Does not have to be long, but match it to the job you are applying for. The force of your personality should see you suceed soon, but there are a lot of others out looking too :yes:

I also ring the agencies I am registered with every week or so to check in on what is happening and update them with what I have been up to, gives a human face to you and your CV. I have been on the hunt seriuosly for the past month or so, and have interviewed and short listed for every job I have applied for, actually no that is not true, there was one that I only got one interview at and not short listed. No luck yet, but hey God loves a trier :D

Good luck Ted, I am sure something will turn up for you.

[kave]

Recruitment agencies work for the companies advertising jobs, not for the applicants. Recruitment agencies get money by companies deciding to employ through their agency, and one of the points they use to sell their service is the huge number of CVs' they have on their books. To bump up the number of CVs' they will often advertise jobs that dont exist, or jobs that have already been filled. If you desperately need a job then continue to apply via employment agencies, but focus your attention and spend more time sorting your cover letters and CV for jobs that have not been outsourced to agencies.

[DMNTD]

I tailor the cover letters for each application I make depending on the job itself.

Due to some inside knowledge of a certain job, I found that the agency wasn't working for neither the company nor applicants.
Some truly are slack arses!

Oh well...never surrender and some company out there will be fortunate :shifty:

[rie]

some good advice here. good luck! looking for a job sucks :p

[Cayman911]

Applying alone isnt enough round here. after you do. give it few days. then call up and follow up on it. show you're keen.

bug them. annoy them. keep ringing until you get an answer, even a No. so you arent wasting you're time waiting

[DMNTD]

Heh! Rest assured I do bug them...I'm the King of follow up calls/contact as I'm sales person after all! :shutup:

[FROSTY]

Mate if I could make a suggestion to you. The best salesman for you is -YOU.
Why not focus on for example bike shops and go doorknocking. "giz a job mista"
You may not get a job right away but Joe Knows bill who may know.. who's got a job going.You are being proactive which scores points in this big ol world.
Incidently if you are prepared to swap over to selling 4 wheels I'd be happy to put the word out for ya.

[DMNTD]

Mate if I could make a suggestion to you. The best salesman for you is -YOU.
Why not focus on for example bike shops and go doorknocking. "giz a job mista"
You may not get a job right away but Joe Knows bill who may know.. who's got a job going.You are being proactive which scores points in this big ol world.
Incidentally if you are prepared to swap over to selling 4 wheels I'd be happy to put the word out for ya.

I'm happy to give almost anything a go...serious!
Release the word Mister! Let the masses know!


was part of the reason for this thread :shifty:

[DMNTD]

Heh! I just applied for a job at a recruitment agency! :killingme

[Her_C4]

I now work in the field of IT (but haven't always) and through the years, I have found the best way of getting my name out there or to find a new job, is to cultivate a relationship with a recruitment agent that you trust.

In hiring staff, I deal with a select few agencies (and only specific) agents that know me, know my environment and most of all understand what I am looking for. I don't have the time, nor the inclination to wade through piles of CV's from agents that do not match my base criteria.

Ring the HR department of various companies in your chosen field of work and ask who they use and why. Take the bull by the horns and if you find an agency or agency with a good record - ring THEM and ask THEM out for coffee or set up an interview even! There was a website around that rated agencies (from users feedback), and I can't find it now - it may even just have been Wellington based, but I will look again just in case.

Good luck!

[Mom]

To bump up the number of CVs' they will often advertise jobs that dont exist, or jobs that have already been filled.

Well that has not been my recent experience for sure, as I have progresed to 2nd interviews with prospective employers. I must admit though, I have heard told that your CV can become a bit of a commodity around the traps.

[rainman]

I know many of the recruiters and I'd ordinarily suggest finding a few that you can work with and are recommended by friends, and push them hard - you are just one CV of many, and they have very short memories. However, having recently been un/underemployed for over a year (and having probably just got a contract for a few months), I have revised my magic employment formula:

It is: who you know, + who they know, + luck. Times hundreds of attempts.

But targeted CVs, early applications, pestering the living shit out of your network, LinkedIn, follow up phone calls, spec applications, etc... can't hurt. As a friend said to me, just keep flinging shit at the wall. Some might stick.

I was going to make a sarcastic comment about Super Johnny Man and the 90 day trial bullshit but perhaps that is uncalled for.

[Neon]

I have found the best way of getting my name out there or to find a new job, is to cultivate a relationship with a recruitment agent that you trust.

+1 to that.

I was unemployed for three months at the end of '08 just as the recession was biting. It was only just starting to get difficult then and I know it has been much worse for a lot of people.

If I were doing it again now, I would totally avoid any online job advertisements - you see them so do a million others. Chances of cut-through are slim to none. It's easy to blow whole days fucking around on the internet sending emails and trying to get recruitment agencies to notice you. Pretty much a waste of space the majority of them IMO unless they know you personally and they are willing to advocate for you.

Figure out who you want to work for. Write letters, call or otherwise target hiring managers by name. Door knock. Have coffee with people (no strings). Mack your network hard. Do the things other job hunters are too lazy to do.

But at the end of the day relax because you're doing what you can, and you'll be back in work before you know it. :niceone:

The twelve weeks I was unemployed felt like an eternity. In hindsight it was a blip on the radar...

Good luck!

[Neon]

As a friend said to me, just keep flinging shit at the wall. Some might stick..

That's the quote I was missing! Although someone said to me "Just keep turning over rocks. Eventually you will find something..."

The slightly more demure version :innocent:

[EJK]

Heh! I just applied for a job at a recruitment agency! :killingme

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[ttmadness]

IT's so fucking depressing, basic cleaning jobs have thousands of views after only a few hours, insane competition...

[Quasievil]

How to get your CV noticed and put on top of the pile

its simple!!

Staple a packet of Mackintosh toffees and post it in, I guarantee results

[Genestho]

How to get your CV noticed and put on top of the pile

its simple!!

Staple a packet of Mackintosh toffees and post it in, I guarantee results

+1
I used to use those single prepack of mellowpuff bickies, and a pre packed coffee sample stapled to the cover letter...didn't have moccona sample packs back then though... ('cause that is the best coffee :D )

[Nasty]

I tailor the cover letters for each application I make depending on the job itself.

Due to some inside knowledge of a certain job, I found that the agency wasn't working for neither the company nor applicants.
Some truly are slack arses!

Oh well...never surrender and some company out there will be fortunate :shifty:

If you find an agent is not working for the company - there is nothing at all to stop you cold calling that company - or contacting someone there to discuss. They might accept what you say - or reject depending on what you are offering them.

[Neon]

IT's so fucking depressing, basic cleaning jobs have thousands of views after only a few hours, insane competition...

And this is exactly why you have to do everything you can to stack the odds in your favour. When it comes to job hunting, most people (the competition) are lazy. CV spamming ads on seek or trademe requires little more effort than a clicky-clicky. Any monkey can do that.

Don't be depressed about it. Get yourself a kick-ass CV, an introduction letter and pound the pavements with a smile on your face.

[Her_C4]

+1
I used to use those single prepack of mellowpuff bickies, and a pre packed coffee sample stapled to the cover letter...didn't have moccona sample packs back then though... ('cause that is the best coffee :D )

I know we are all different, and I guess it totally depends on the type of job, agency, company that you are working with :innocent: BUT I once recieved a CV with a stapled 'goodie' and binned it without reading it.

Why?

Because I felt that it showed that the applicant couldn't be bothered ringing me or establishing contact / rapport, but that they felt that they could just bribe me with a 'goodie' to take notice, or to overlook any flaws in the CV - manipulative at best.

Guess I am just a hardarse...:Punk:

[Quasievil]

Guess I am just a hardarse...:Punk:

Creative thinking and showing initiative to put oneself ahead of the pack I would think.

[rainman]

Guess I am just a hardarse...:Punk:

Dunno. I would have taken the pack of goodies and still binned the CV!

[Banditbandit]

Can anyone give me a heads up on a DECENT avenue to get a job in Auckland?
I have applied for nearly 30 jobs via Seek.co.nz and a couple of other places but keep being given the piss around by useless recruitment agencies.

Cheers

For a start - Seek is not that great. I told my bosses to stick the job in December last year ... and was unemployed until April this year ...

There seemed to be lots of jobs on Seek, but I had the same experience ... geting pissed around by employment agencies and the like ...

I got my current job through www.trademe.co.nz ... there appear to be more companies than agencies using Trademe ... which gives you a direct line ...

Good luck .. know the feeling from recent experience ..

[Headbanger]

Recruitment agencies work for the companies advertising jobs, not for the applicants. Recruitment agencies get money by companies deciding to employ through their agency, and one of the points they use to sell their service is the huge number of CVs' they have on their books. To bump up the number of CVs' they will often advertise jobs that dont exist, or jobs that have already been filled. If you desperately need a job then continue to apply via employment agencies, but focus your attention and spend more time sorting your cover letters and CV for jobs that have not been outsourced to agencies.

I almost agree, As far as I'm concerned the employment agencies are working for themselves ,not the employer or the jobseeker, which is what brings around your second point, advertising false jobs,building up a database of applicants,and then trying to shop em to employers.

Caught me out a few times and wasted huge amounts of time and effort, not only due to the time they take up but the time I have already spent approaching the very same companies personally.

Fucks me right off.

But then, I thought I had an excellent chance for a job a couple weeks back, Though they changed the job description in between my application and the interview, And then after my interview they re-advertised it in a completely different capacity and hired someone else.

Lmfao.

Hope, its a cunt of a thing.

[Mully]

God, I had one that I applied for directly, and then every agency in Auckland seemed to get it the following day - all in all, I think I applied for the same job 3 or 4 times.

Didn't get it, though. The company didn't even have the manners to send me a "thanks, but piss off" e-mail.

[Headbanger]

I recently had another interview, The interview went so well I was beaming, they were beaming, They walked me out to my wagon, another round of hand shakes.

three weeks later.....nothing.

Contacted,very curtly informed that they had no positions to suit me.

WTF?

Fuckers,what about all the dribble about how much fuckin value and capability they could see me bringing into the orginisation.

[raftn]

Owning my own business, I advoid agencys at all costs, they are a rip off, I normally advertise on treade me,............quite funny some times when you get the cv's eg...and i quote.." I pay atenton 2 d-tale!"............ya just goto laugh!

[Love my Bonnie]

My 16 year old son applied for a job at McDs.
He did a 4 hour work trial (unpaid) they then had him fill out & sign an employment contract, kiwisaver application, sized him up for his uniform and told him they would be in touch.
2 days later they told him they actually have no vacancies & will keep his application on file and get back to him if a position opens up.

How fucken mean is that? If you have no vacancies, tell the poor kid, not get his hopes up.

Wankers!!

[DMNTD]

Oh well....been offered one job and have an interview tomorrow for another.
I guess sometimes it pays to be a cheeky, voluptuous yet sexy beast :blink:


I'll see how it flows...

[MSTRS]

Oh well....been offered one job and have an interview tomorrow for another.
I guess sometimes it pays to be a cheeky, voluptuous yet sexy beast :blink:




...and to tell them you know where they live, and where their kids go to school?
Fingers crossed, big boy.

[Max Preload]

Bugging employers doesn't work - it just pisses them off. I was with a customer today - he got a call from someone who'd applied for a position with his company wanting to know what was happening. He was told "If we haven't got back to you, we're not looking at interviewing you."

Employers have better things to do than field calls from people looking for work all day long, especially when there isn't an advertised position.

There's plenty of work going out there if you have the skills. Despite my best efforts at avoiding them, I'm still getting work offers every bloody week. I finally relented last week and took one and then I get a call today offering another one. I'm going to have to put my rate up yet again.

[DMNTD]

I'll see how it flows...

Dang it...the search continues.
Farked if I'll ever do door to door sales or work for $13 per hour! :mellow:

[aff-man]

Hahaha I had to reort to door to door commission only in Dubbers when I was over there.. in winter... selling expensive alarm systems..... in a recession hahahaha good times...

I had this problem before I got the current employment unfortunately I didn't have the 3 years industrial experience and due to traveling and such had ben out of uni too long for graduate programs. So basically every CV I sent to recruitment places got vitoed without actually chatting to someone.

Flooded the market with my CV's for a couple of weeks and got 3 interviews. Got the current job through an australian recruitment company looking for someone for thier auckland office..

Oh and PM sent

[Shaun]

Dang it...the search continues.
Farked if I'll ever do door to door sales or work for $13 per hour! :mellow:



Go into DEUS EX MACHINA and sell your self to them mate

[DMNTD]

Go into DEUS EX MACHINA and sell your self to them mate

Indeed I shall...by the KG would keep me financially healthy for a while too.
I went into a number of bike shops whilst out and about yesterday...2 asked for my contact details on the spot without me asking.

Ironically I have just been contacted by a recruitment agency saying that I have been short listed

[Max Preload]

Ironically I have just been contacted by a recruitment agency saying that I have been short listed Here's hoping McDonalds come through for you! :niceone:

[crazyhorse]

Indeed I shall...by the KG would keep me financially healthy for a while too.
I went into a number of bike shops whilst out and about yesterday...2 asked for my contact details on the spot without me asking.

Ironically I have just been contacted by a recruitment agency saying that I have been short listed

So? how did you get on? Any news yet.............. did ya get the job - or jobs on offer? was it onner, offer, or not :whistle:

[buellbabe]

I have had a LOT of jobs over the years, at one point I only lasted a max of 18mths before moving on for more $$'s. I have always worked in the same industry (I'm an image retoucher) and the only job I ever got through the paper was my actual appenticeship.
Every other one has been either word of mouth or as a result of me going through the phone book and ringing companies offering myself for temporary or part-time work.
Sometimes its just about being in the right place at the right time! One time I had just returned from the UK (where every job was scored from a friendly ph call!) and I rang this company here in Auck, the boss was out and about in his car and speaking with me on his cell ph...the upshot was we met up on a street corner and had an impromptu interview. I nailed it LOL.

My point is, that thinking outside the box and doing some cold-calling or 'door-knocking' (like Frosty suggested) is not a bad option.

And talk to as many people as you can to get your name out there so that when something comes up YOUR name will be the one that springs to mind.

GOOD LUCK!

[Crazy Steve]

Here's hoping McDonalds come through for you! :niceone:

You think they would take him ? ?

Crazy Steve.

[Headbanger]

One time I had just returned from the UK (where every job was scored from a friendly ph call!) and I rang this company here in Auck, the boss was out and about in his car and speaking with me on his cell ph...the upshot was we met up on a street corner and had an impromptu interview. I nailed it LOL.



yeah, But you're a chick.

When one ugly dude rings up another ugly dude and tries to meet up on a street corner to discuss a job interview....we tend to get told to fuck right off.

But hell yeah, a chick rings up and its Hammer time....uh...I mean coffee time.

[EJK]

O captain, my captain. How did it go?

[Max Preload]

the upshot was we met up on a street corner and had an impromptu interview. I nailed it LOL.Street corner 'interview'... nailed.. methinks there's more to this story... :gob:

[Max Preload]

O captain, my captain. How did it go?
Apparently even McDonalds have standards... :whistle:

[DMNTD]

Sorted...finally! :blink:
Would sir like lube with that? :shifty:

[MSTRS]

I'm seeing 'mid corner' and 'lube' and I'm thinking...how do I delete the mental images?
Well done on the job.

[White trash]

Sorted...finally! :blink:
Would sir like lube with that? :shifty:

Spill the beans mate, what're ya doin and who are ya doin it for?

[DMNTD]

Spill the beans mate, what're ya doin and who are ya doin it for?

Lets just say that Botany Honda (http://www.botanyhonda.co.nz/) has a new salesperson in the house. :yes:

[Brett]

Lets just say that Botany Honda (http://www.botanyhonda.co.nz/) has a new salesperson in the house. :yes:

Your local...nice:yes: Willl have to pop in and say hi.

[MadDuck]

Lets just say that Botany Honda (http://www.botanyhonda.co.nz/) has a new salesperson in the house. :yes:

Good stuff Capt Crunch....:yes:

[zeocen]

Oh dude, fucking congrats. I guess I'll be seeing a LOT more of you then. That's pretty much my second home these days.

Stoked for you mate, you deserve it.

[nodrog]

Did you have to change your name again just to get a job?

[Crazy Steve]

What a very lucky man to get the chance to sell Honda's....:shit:

I'm still looking for work and have been unemployed now for 12mths today......

But I have standards and can't work for cocks !!

Crazy Steve.

[hellokitty]

Lets just say that Botany Honda (http://www.botanyhonda.co.nz/) has a new salesperson in the house. :yes:

Awesome! I was looking at that job wishing I had sales experience so I could have gone for it!

[Genie]

Congrats Dumpty.:Punk:

[Donor]

Oh dude, fucking congrats. I guess I'll be seeing a LOT more of you then. That's pretty much my second home these days.

Yes, and as Zeo can't keep a bike for more than 5 minutes, you'll make plenty of sales, and have lots of low km trades to entice the budget shopper!

[Gremlin]

Yes, and as Zeo can't keep a bike for more than 5 minutes, you'll make plenty of sales, and have lots of low km trades to entice the budget shopper!
There's even a candy red one, ex zeocen, sitting there right now!

[Crazy Steve]

What sort of work are you looking for?

A nice safe job you know, like a bank job......:yes:

Crazy Steve.

[Genie]

http://www.yankodesign.com/images/design_news/2009/04/21/2015honda.jpg

Gay or not gay?

[Marmoot]

Anyone know where to look for second job that one can do afterhours for some pocket money? Like between 6pm - 8pm thing?

[DMNTD]

Anyone know where to look for second job that one can do after hours for some pocket money? Like between 6pm - 8pm thing?

Please do continue sir...